@@ssjaak538 Thats literally the foundation of W*****. "We are men and they (Ulama) were men, if they could derive religion from quran and hadith so can we"
Alhamdulillah always beneficial listening to the Safina Society channel. Syaikh is very articulate straight to the point and has a strong clarity to explain Islam in various contemporary relevance
I loved it when the shaykh corrected his way of sending salawat. May Allah make us careful with such utterances that hold virtues and rewards beyond our imagination ❤️
Jaza khallah khair, shaykh I live in Indonesia n majority are Syafi iy but I'm intrigued by the Malikis on there everyday amal or another words the amal of ahl madinah..
@@V0ayger idk if anyone atacking, I just commenting based on the title ( I didnt' watch the video) But, the title reminded me of them people who attack Hanafi madhab
These Khwarij are a curse upon the Umma, and they are doing so much damage, seriously Ahlul Sunna wa AlJamaa need to work triple hard to counter their effect, especially sincw they have the full wealth of SA behind them.
How is that a leap? Madina is where the prophet and Sahaba spent their entire lives, these people had their fathers or grand fathers from the Sahaba, it's a leap to bring a hadeeth were none of these people have heard of, or a sunna the literal children and grand children of Sahaba never heard of. Did the Sahaba not teach their children or crand children?
@@alenezi989a3 Let me give you an example. The 6 fasts of Shawwal & doing them one after the other. I don't care if the descendants of the Sahabah in Medina did it or not like that, when I have a hadith that's authentic, which is unrestrictive, I will use my gut instinct & follow the hadith as it is. 🤷🏿♂️
@@hassanshahid2279 Yes it's not an issue of Aaqeeda...I understand we can have differences on these issues but I wish we didn't... Alhumdullillah...🤷🏿♂️
This is what they do. They know their methodology is bogus so theyre trying to assasinate the madhaahib..kind of like MIAW himself who tried to assassinate his own brother who opposed him
I'm hanafi but I find Maliki madhab to be pure and more authentic to the salaf. The hanafi madhab has been made too liberal in most of the southeast Asian Muslim countries and have mixed cultures and traditions in it. All 4 madhab are good and accepted, I'm just basing my opinion on the Maliki madhab. Hopefully it clears things up. Jazakallah khair
The hanafi madhab hasn’t been “made liberal”. It’s just that it’s the most practiced madhab in southeast asia and it’s a shame the muslims of southeast asia are the way they are. Has nothing to do with the hanafi madhab itself. In fact the subcontinent scholars are way more strict than syrian or turkish hanafi scholars
Bro Hanafi madhhab also takes into account Amal into account just like Maliki madhhab. But Abu Hanifah travelled a lot to gain Ilm. He studied under great scholars in Makkah, Madinah, Basrah and Kufa (the last two cities were founded by Umar (RA) so they included a large number of Sahabah specially Kufah because of the caliphate of Ali (RA)). So he took into account the amal of these people in general. He didn't limit it to Madinah like Imam Malik.
The flaw with relying on the Amal of Ahl al-Madinah is that Malik came over 100 years after the Prophet(pbuh&f), which is a long time for corruptions to occur. We see from the Christians that it only took around 50 years for their religion to change from pure Islam to a watered-down version of Roman paganism (but with a kind of monotheistic bent). ONLY 50 years or less! Let alone we have multiple Sahaba (such as Abu Hurayrah, Abu al-Dardaa, 'Imraan bin HuSayn, etc) complaining about basically everything being changed from the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f) (and Abu al-Dardaa' died in the time of 'Uthman!). So we can't just assume that the people of Madinah preserved the Sunnah when MAJOR fitan occurred in the roughly century between the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f) and Malik and Sahaba are telling us that they dont recognize almost anything from the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f). Nor does this mean that we can fully rely on the 'Ilm al-Rijal system so obsessively used by the later madhaahib (esp Hanbalis) because as Abu Hanifah and Malik rightly perceived, there are hadiths whose chains may be good but simply go against reality. So a more holistic approach needs to be taken and I believe Malik had the right intention by looking at the 'Amal of Ahl al-Madinah however for reasons stated above I do not believe it is as solid as one would think.
If you think amal of ahl al madina isn't reliable because you think 50 years is enough for corruption to occur like what happened with Christians (let alone your analogy is false) then why do you think the hadith is reliable although it's way less known than the Amal of ahl al madinah????
Plus we aren't looking to have the eyes and knowledge of God and we aren't supposed to, we as humans are supposed to take the strongest arguments possible and that's it and Amal ahl almadinah is as strong and solid as one might think
Amal ahlal madinah doesn't mean you see the Tom Dick and Harry doing something and that is amal. Amal relates to what the mujtahidun were doing. Those mujtahidun were those who knew the sunnah... You could say at least having 100,000 hadith at the forefront of the mind and the context of the ahadith. Listen and understand the video
@@IrnBrummmmmmm0you don't consider Bin Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen to be mujtahids? Anyway, it's unfair to call them Wahhabis. If anything, they should be call taymiyyis or Albaniyyis
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first they accused hanafis now they accusing maalikis 😢
Who is accusing?
Salafis @@V0ayger
@@V0ayger people, usually salafis, attack the hanafi madhab for going against hadith, so i’m saying are they doing it to malikis now too
@@V0ayger wahabis
Le Wahhabiya
JazakAllahu ghayran. The problem is every jake and pete think they know the religion after reading 1 book or seeing a few tiktok videos.
@@ssjaak538 Thats literally the foundation of W*****.
"We are men and they (Ulama) were men, if they could derive religion from quran and hadith so can we"
Alhamdulillah always beneficial listening to the Safina Society channel. Syaikh is very articulate straight to the point and has a strong clarity to explain Islam in various contemporary relevance
I am a Hanafi Mukallid from Bangladesh but always have the respect Imam Malik Ra.
I loved it when the shaykh corrected his way of sending salawat. May Allah make us careful with such utterances that hold virtues and rewards beyond our imagination ❤️
Mashallah very informative
Love the madhhab content.
Jaza khallah khair, shaykh I live in Indonesia n majority are Syafi iy but I'm intrigued by the Malikis on there everyday amal or another words the amal of ahl madinah..
There is an add for A christian app on this video. Please look into this
From which book are you reading?
Yes please what book is this?
İmam malik - for sheikh Ahmad TAHA Rayyan the imam of malikiyyah in Egypt
"they" atacking Maliki Madhab too now??
Who's attacking brother?
@@V0ayger idk if anyone atacking, I just commenting based on the title ( I didnt' watch the video) But, the title reminded me of them people who attack Hanafi madhab
@V0ayger who else? The Sect made up by the British empire.
Why did Shafi’i then deviate from Imam Malik?
Because he reached the level of mujtahid mutlaq
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These Khwarij are a curse upon the Umma, and they are doing so much damage, seriously Ahlul Sunna wa AlJamaa need to work triple hard to counter their effect, especially sincw they have the full wealth of SA behind them.
...too much a leap of faith to practically ignore the hadith over practice of Medinians IMO.🤔
How is that a leap? Madina is where the prophet and Sahaba spent their entire lives, these people had their fathers or grand fathers from the Sahaba, it's a leap to bring a hadeeth were none of these people have heard of, or a sunna the literal children and grand children of Sahaba never heard of. Did the Sahaba not teach their children or crand children?
@@mdkhan3928 and your opinion is a perfectly fine opinion, and it's why we have room for disagreement in the forms of the different schools of thought
@@alenezi989a3 Let me give you an example. The 6 fasts of Shawwal & doing them one after the other. I don't care if the descendants of the Sahabah in Medina did it or not like that, when I have a hadith that's authentic, which is unrestrictive, I will use my gut instinct & follow the hadith as it is. 🤷🏿♂️
@@hassanshahid2279 Yes it's not an issue of Aaqeeda...I understand we can have differences on these issues but I wish we didn't... Alhumdullillah...🤷🏿♂️
@@alenezi989a3 ...too many assumptions IMO.🤷🏿♂️
This is what they do. They know their methodology is bogus so theyre trying to assasinate the madhaahib..kind of like MIAW himself who tried to assassinate his own brother who opposed him
May Allah bless u brother... If anytime yiu come to Saudia please upload video, I would love to meet u... Your Hanafi brother from another Madhab..
you from saudi arabia?
@anamuslim627 i live in saudia..
I am from india but i live in saudia..
@@Azamkhan-yv5th ❤
I'm hanafi but I find Maliki madhab to be pure and more authentic to the salaf. The hanafi madhab has been made too liberal in most of the southeast Asian Muslim countries and have mixed cultures and traditions in it. All 4 madhab are good and accepted, I'm just basing my opinion on the Maliki madhab. Hopefully it clears things up. Jazakallah khair
The hanafi madhab hasn’t been “made liberal”. It’s just that it’s the most practiced madhab in southeast asia and it’s a shame the muslims of southeast asia are the way they are. Has nothing to do with the hanafi madhab itself. In fact the subcontinent scholars are way more strict than syrian or turkish hanafi scholars
@videogames is confused! Those CULTURES don't practice Hanafi Madhab.
Bro Hanafi madhhab also takes into account Amal into account just like Maliki madhhab. But Abu Hanifah travelled a lot to gain Ilm. He studied under great scholars in Makkah, Madinah, Basrah and Kufa (the last two cities were founded by Umar (RA) so they included a large number of Sahabah specially Kufah because of the caliphate of Ali (RA)). So he took into account the amal of these people in general. He didn't limit it to Madinah like Imam Malik.
Then why are you Hanafi? You can change you madhab.
@@alenezi989a3 probably cause of lack of resources in the English language.
The flaw with relying on the Amal of Ahl al-Madinah is that Malik came over 100 years after the Prophet(pbuh&f), which is a long time for corruptions to occur.
We see from the Christians that it only took around 50 years for their religion to change from pure Islam to a watered-down version of Roman paganism (but with a kind of monotheistic bent). ONLY 50 years or less!
Let alone we have multiple Sahaba (such as Abu Hurayrah, Abu al-Dardaa, 'Imraan bin HuSayn, etc) complaining about basically everything being changed from the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f) (and Abu al-Dardaa' died in the time of 'Uthman!).
So we can't just assume that the people of Madinah preserved the Sunnah when MAJOR fitan occurred in the roughly century between the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f) and Malik and Sahaba are telling us that they dont recognize almost anything from the time of the Prophet(pbuh&f).
Nor does this mean that we can fully rely on the 'Ilm al-Rijal system so obsessively used by the later madhaahib (esp Hanbalis) because as Abu Hanifah and Malik rightly perceived, there are hadiths whose chains may be good but simply go against reality.
So a more holistic approach needs to be taken and I believe Malik had the right intention by looking at the 'Amal of Ahl al-Madinah however for reasons stated above I do not believe it is as solid as one would think.
If you think amal of ahl al madina isn't reliable because you think 50 years is enough for corruption to occur like what happened with Christians (let alone your analogy is false) then why do you think the hadith is reliable although it's way less known than the Amal of ahl al madinah????
Plus we aren't looking to have the eyes and knowledge of God and we aren't supposed to, we as humans are supposed to take the strongest arguments possible and that's it and Amal ahl almadinah is as strong and solid as one might think
Amal ahlal madinah doesn't mean you see the Tom Dick and Harry doing something and that is amal. Amal relates to what the mujtahidun were doing. Those mujtahidun were those who knew the sunnah... You could say at least having 100,000 hadith at the forefront of the mind and the context of the ahadith. Listen and understand the video
Its look like shadee is in misssion to destroy our deen😂
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you must be talking about the 'Salafi' Deen. If so, then he's doing a job worthy of eternal reward, in sha Allah
And the non mujtahid wahabbi scholsrs havent been doing that?
@@IrnBrummmmmmm0you don't consider Bin Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen to be mujtahids? Anyway, it's unfair to call them Wahhabis. If anything, they should be call taymiyyis or Albaniyyis
@@IrnBrummmmmmm0 don't know the definition of wahabi salafi 😃