You can tell Forrest Fenn will not lie ,even when he feels he misled he stops and explains further. I hope the world will remember a man who gave the trill of the chase to many. By doing so he gave priceless wisdom to all who listen . He did his best to get families out into the wild where spirits run free.
Does anyone else secretly wish that Forrest Fenn was their Father/Grandfather? I could listen to his stories and advice ALL DAY! Amazing, how much a stranger can feel so close to your spirit and not even know you exist. He such a warm breath of fresh air. Thank you, Forrest, for everything you've taught me over the years and for the confidence to travel to unknown places to learn new thoughts and ideas of my own. Thank you 🤠
@ANNO DOMINI , Thank you! I will always have a special place in my heart for him. We share a very similar view on the mystery and fascination of the history of anthropology and how people lived their everyday lives. He also has such an amazing and creative mind when it comes to business as well... he's a natural. His wisdom is so inspiring to me. It allows me to really open up to accepting and embracing my failures as long as I pluck out the wisdom from the situation. Wisdom is sometimes the only gain you get when you fall. With that in mind, you can find positivity in even the hardest failures in life. Once again, thank you, Mr. Fenn!
The more I watch Mr. Fenn the more I like him, and the more I like him I can harken to say I have come to adore this man. It truly is amazing what he has done, and I am so grateful to him and for him for it. Truly a one of a kind once in a generation type of maverick.
Look up the name of the street where the Fenn Gallery was located. Then think about Fenn considering himself as a Maverick. Kind of interesting but obviously dispositive.
20:39-“I shut down Wyoming, Montana, Northern Colorado but they don’t care.” Just like pg. 26, “I prayed for D’s in all my classes, but no one listened.” He’s basically saying his followers don’t care to follow his advice.
I do not think he said "I shut down..." I think he said, "They shut down..." as in the weather service and parks. He did, though, clearly state he made this same comment on 'Dal's Blog' so that is our next place to look and verify.
23:44 if Doug knows what a significant clue is, he would also know where the chest is. He doesn't, so he doesn't have superpowers (any more than the rest of us) to determine what things are significant clues and what things are not. But he probably heard something that correlates with his own ideas of how to interpret the poem.
This is so much like watching a guru laugh at his disciples as they overcomplicate everything. Forrest reminds me of Swami Prajnanpad, Arnaud Desjardins guru...
If I found the chest... I would drive myself to Santa Fe and contact Fenn first. This is Fenn HIS legacy. Fenn would know what to do as far as the treasure. I would want to meet Forrest Fenn! Yes, that would be important!
I got a funny feeling that he has set up a sub S trust or something that would require the finder go see him or at least his lawyer in order to claim it outright.
This is why I don't trust videos that are clipped. In my opinion, Preston clearly points at a chair Forrest Fenn was apparently sitting in, out of camera view and made a comment that was scrubbed. The people in the room, meaning the interviewers apparently had NO clue that was important at the time. It was only Preston's bold comment and Forrest Fenn's sheepish look that knocked the interviewers off their chair. Now, they don't care to share that Forrest Fenn moment with others. So why add that in the end? Was it a ploy to say - We know something you don't know? Sure seems like it to me.
Thank You for the mystery Forrest. It's got to take a lot of energy to hold back some of your secrets. Thanks for the strength in going forward with helping others fulfill some joy with the purpose of adventure of the chase. Take Care James L
In thrill of the chase he says, “I asked for D’s on my grades.” One person who also writes like Fenn found a place with bluffs and a canyon with a place with a place that is a “D” shape. I found that comment about the D in the video that the lady asks at the beginning curious so I did research.
At 4:45 Forest said that the Electrical engineer name Christ Frida (I think), he is from "Back East"... Does that sounds familiar?. Recently Forest said that the person that found the treasure was from "Back East". could be the same person?.
I picked up on that too. He said Chris Lafeida. Look him up, he actually has video of him finding the location of one of Fenn’s downed planes which he talks about here.
I found the treasure! It is located in the Thrill of the Chase - page 105! "When this realization hit me , at last I knew it... If I cannot enrich those with whom I interact each day and cause them to be better for my having passed their view, then I have wasted my turn (on this earth). That I succeeded in this endeavor is not as as important as it is for me to make a solid try. For if the try is sincere I have succeeded in whatever failure resulted." - Forrest Fenn This is an amazing nugget that I have added to my own treasure chest of what is valuable in my life. "For where your treasure is there will your heart be also." Thank you Mr. Fenn! I was in Santa Fe recently on my way home from photographing sandhill cranes at Bosque del Apache Bird Refuge and unsuccessfully tried to find Mr. Fenn to thank him for this wonderful insight. If anyone who visits this site and reads this, please pass on my sincere gratitude for his wisdom. I read the book as it was loaned to me by a friend who was seeking the treasure. I was intrigued by Mr. Fenn' s experiences and insights, the most important of which is listed above. I was not in need of seeking money or in the need of adventure as I have just completed a 32 year career in wildlife management - But I do hope people who read the books will evaluate what the treasures are in their own lives and do as Mr. Fenn suggests and that is to enrich the lives of others!
I just noticed that at 11:50 when Kristy wants Forrest to confirm that the finder will own the chest AND the gold, not only does Forrest NOT say "yes" he specifically reminds Kristy that the poem only mentions the gold, and then states, "there is a SUBCHAPTER ESSENCE." Now we seem to have confirmation that (perhaps) he wants the chest and/or other items returned!!! What do you all think?? (I'm in the chat rooms. I'm the NYC high school Earth Science teacher (25+years) . .( there is another Laura in the chat room.)). He further states that if you rent a cabin on private property you can use the facilities but do not own items on it----perhaps further proof that he will have the right to ask for pieces back !!!
it's two things , the treasure and the chest are two different things, if you find one of them he'll give you title to the gold. Don't look for a chest IMO , look for a jar with anonymous transfer of landownership in it, then dig out your treasure on your new private property. Not anything new but still the best explanation IMO
@higgs singlet Thank you 'higgs: for two weeks on Toby and Cowl. videos they were talking about the tax implications of filing with a Title S. Now we know the underlying context.
Understand "Forrest For Dummies" - There is NO CHEST as you have envisioned in your mind. (Metaphorical / "ARTISTIC LICENSE" / Spinning A Tail /etc.,etc. ,etc. BOMB 💣- Book Of Mormon Book/
If I find it I will give him back the bracelet he wanted and regretted putting in Indulgence also would give Dal Nietzel a few articles I am goin to look this year I have a logical solve
Tester Account correct, and we do not intend to. The documentary is the priority and will have clips in them and we will continue to put clips out. Probably going to take a break from that for a while, and we focus on several other things in the chase.
Please do not think I represent all of mankind. I also do not represent all documentary makers. I am so glad I got that off my chest, I have needed to say that for sometime. Whew, thank goddess, I can sleep now.
This is UrbanTaint. I could of swore Forrest said he won that bracelet in a caed game. Not a pool game. But I havent studied Forrest Fenn in a while. Let me know if I'm wrong guys. I'm sure theres an old video still up.
From this interview I believe he has the actual treasure, if you find the box it prolly has a note or something in there to contact forest to give the phrase or code or whatever it is and he will give you the gold because he and the poem sez title to the “gold” not the other items in the treasure box.
Well I hope he's checked up on it.. If I found a title to gold I'd treat it as a joke and probably lose it somewhere. I was expecting Forest to be a tough Johnny Appleseed character but he looks like a Floridian business man.
@@CJM-rg5rt Has it ever crossed your mind that your words have power? Forrest might read your comment. What you said is really inconsiderate, or at least calloused. Build people up. It should be easy enough to do with people that excite or inspire you.
11:44 what does Forrest say about the title to the gold? I can't quite make out the words. "There's a lot of sub-chapter essings to that rule too (??) -- but I don't want to go there"
Kpro Minute 18, he doesn't say drive. Also at minute 9 in Cynthia's most recent vid (2/3/20) at minute 9ish he also doesn't say drive. Hope you know, I'm NOT trying to nit pick, only analyzing for clarity and other possibilities. Thanks to you all we have video and are able to do so!
20:36 He says that he shut down Montana, WYOMING, and northern Colorado. Is he saying that he previously ruled out those areas? I thought the treasure was eventually found in Wyoming. But if he had previously said it wasn't, that makes me think all the conspiracy theories may be right. That it was in New Mexico and then moved? That would make me so sad. I want this to be a totally pure story without any of this mess about rehiding it.
Great Share, Great Post!!!! I find a very interesting and new comment located at 13:40. Does Forrest just confirm that it's in a NP or NF? In a place we would pay(RENT as he puts it) an entrance fee, to use and enjoy the space for a said amount of time? Does this quote answer questions like "legally would the finder own the chest and contents"? This is an exciting new turn of events....Even Preston says he's never heard Forrest say this before...well say something but I believe he's refering to this quote . Great stuff...keep it up Kpro and CowLazars
I think you guys are overthinking it... he was talking about the legality of actually taking the abandoned chest if the land switch from public land to tribal or government land. Has nothing to do with renting a house in a certain town
What's everyone's take on dougs comment about the new clue? my thought is the comment by Forest when he said you start the chase by getting in your car and driving to the first clue. This confirms that wwwh can be driven to? What do you think?
My take on the new clue? (Why care about others opinions?) The more interesting statement was cutting off MT. WY. and N. Colo. And Prestons is obviously referencing that comment. Combined with questions with Cynthia (?) asking her why she discounts New Mexico? (not a direct quote). But most interesting is what is it that Doug Preston knows that no one else does? How could he make such an emphatic "bold" statement? He cannot without having inside knowledge. Take a guess as to the new "clue" from the interview. But Preston knows something. Do the early searchers from say 8 years ago have the same information from FF that we do today? Of course not. The Chase is patently unfair to say the least and FF didn't anticipate very well. This Chase is FF's so he can do it anyway he wants. But the questions being asked these days makes one wonder about this "adventure" Doesn't it?
@@sms1949 My take on "shutting down MT. WY. and N CO was simply staying to shut down the search season until spring. FF has made reference to this meaning the search season.
@@josholsen645 Think it through. Hopefully it was a safety issue. But what about N. Mex and S. Colo? Snow there also. Winter conditions in the Rockies are quite similar at high elevations. Interesting to know about what went throught ff mind when making the statement.
@@sms1949 The lady was searching in weather that was 1 degree F, its not as cold towards the southern areas he mentioned. In MANY Q&A Forrest has mentioned to call the search off until Spring. In my opinion, he was telling people not to go out in those dangerous elements. It's your solve, but I wouldn't take that comment as gospel - or a clue.
I've said that myself... seems pretty sketchy that they withhold information for themselves until they deem their own time and edits to release these things... never again.
Not at this time, we are using some for the documentary. Those are being cut out for now. We are trying to bring a lot to the community and grateful for all the positive feedback for a clear majority.
@tester account you're pretty damn rude for making comment without doing any research. And if the chase is something you've been apart of then be grateful theres a community that will share anything at all.
@@dr.dazzle5183 I don't think there's any reason for either of you to be this upset. I just think Forrest should require anyone who interviews him by video to release an unedited uncut version and if they want to they can also release whatever finished cut up product as well. This way we can verify for ourselves no information is being withheld.
..Forrest said the plane crashed 55 seconds after he ejected. Why did he not say a minute after? Why so precise: 33 1/2 inch canvas? 8.25 miles north? title to the gold? etc.
Surely at the speed the plane was flying, another 5 secs would take it miles farther away. The location was achieved by precise timing not guess or round up. IMHO
Cowlazars go listen to this video around the end and he does mention like if you could rent something would you be able to leave the property with it and he mentions people are overlooking New Mexico and he says I closed off Utah, Colorado and Arizona
Stratton of the River Valley I cant remember but he does say people skip over Santa Fe and he says quote on quote I’ve told people no longer Utah, Wyoming, Montana or Colorado. I will rewatch.
Stratton of the River Valley 20:39-20:43, I have shut down Wyoming, Utah, Montana and Northern Colorado then he continues to say that people tend to over look New Mexico.
No such thing as a lead searcher, thank God he said that it’s so insane to hear delusional narcissists say I’m the lead searcher or I was, and numerous people self proclaim themselves as such. It really brings the crazies out
Hey I have a fun exciting idea. Is there a way Forrest Fenn would release the information to you and a group of us go to the spot and create a time capsule that is a chest I have where each of us add an item for generations to come find? Then in the time capsule add the fenn books as items because he started the chase. I think it would be a great idea to bury a time capsule with each person who loved the chase. So we all add a piece of our hearts into the chest? This would make his heart happy.
It has been solved but my understanding Fenn refuses to confirm it. There is no box in the rockys. Its more about solving a complex visual artistic puzzle then presenting your answer to him and he will then give title to the gold but he is currently being sued in Federal Court in New Mexico. Case no. 19-cv-01124. Brian Erskine who is a party to the case filed a 78 page answer explaining in detail the answer and how fenn refuses to admit it is solved and pay up.
In the interview Forest said he got the treasure idea from, what sounded like “Racho Renn”. This was at 19:50-53. Does anyone know for sure what he said?
Ralph Lauren gave him the idea in saying ‘you can’t take it with you’. He knew him and he happened to come look at some of his collection. This gave him the idea to pass some treasures on by way of a hunt. That’s all.
Didn't Douglas say one time that Forest's first version of the poem was too easy? If he doesn't know where the chest was heading how would he know it was too easy? Answer: He knew the state.
@cowlazars what do you think it’s most important clue in the poem? You said “yes” like it gave you a huge hint, but essentially English is hard to define and I don’t think you can even unlock the last clue without finding the treasure. And they (let’s be real; HE /HIM; Forrest said it) didn’t find the treasure without finding the blaze. Looking for something is not as important as being. Adventure is not outdoors, adventure is within.
How will he know when it’s found? Does he live five minutes from it? Does he have cameras inside the erasure chest or surrounding it? Truly how will he know if he’s too old to go in search of his own treasure?
There is something in that chest that he is not willing to talk about. In the end the person who finds that chest will have a tough choice. Settle for what is in the chest and not redeem that extra fortune, or simply cash in the bonus and then the financial institution is going to notify Forrest or the heirs that some one has found the chest. As I see it, the treasure is probably worth close to 750,000 since the majority of its content is gold. All it takes is something else in the treasure chest that can survive the elements and be worth as much or more than the chest. It could also be attached to that Sub chapter S's comment where there is a stipulation of some sort that would make the owner of the chest come forward to claim the bonus. I guess it depends on whether some one wants the publicity or the privacy.
Kpro can a signed book be purchased? If not I need to order anyways,I can not get PayPal to work ,what options to pay do u recommend, looking at an order Feb. 19 or so...ty
Ok Kpro, I watched tobster's for your call. That dude is no mountain man, he deserves the book thrown at him. He is trying to find allies like you maybe just for his own mental health. It was premeditated crime, poorly executed, placing rescue personnel in harm's way. Probably causing the end of the permit program that was fought for by real enthusiast for years. Distance yourself would be my advice, take it or leave it!
yes ua re right lost dutchman is right here 25 mins away and really 3 exits from me i been to it few times with schools n just to hike lots people go there its not that big really
You guys obviously cut out the piece immediately after him saying something about renting private land for 24 hours.... he said "you see where that can go?..." and the edit jumped to something else. In my OPINION you are withholding information from others. That's all I have to say...
So many details, too little time. I say, Forrest said give the poem to a child. Means keep it simple Read the poem. Read all three of his books of memoirs. Put two and two together, get in your car and go if you can afford it. Took me 8 yrs to arrive at my unique solve and have the experience of seeing the place once. But, of course, no find. Not yet
Lisa Beam I may only have one book but my question to you is do you think when he’s speaking about the French men grave markers and the field he’s speaking of a place that is forgotten and those French soldiers? I typed in words from the poem and his first book into google and another author like Fenn mentions some place forgotten too and he tells the place in his book and this place comes up when you type in all his clues.
@@18shadyblue He could be speaking of a place such as this..In my solve I see the special waterfall that brought Forrest to this location In my solve of the poem Heavy Loads and Water High is the watrrfall. I am not sure about the French soldier. I know each person interprets the poem differently. You could be right in your thoughts, so could I. We could be friends and try to solve the search. Nobody has been successful yet. If I were to find it, I would tell Fenn...
Lisa Beam I found a place by the Colorado River that has been forgotten over time with golden cotton fields and white bluffs and marble stones and a barn wire fence by the river that is forgotten and I found this by some other author who mentions it. Plus they say in their book their is a “D” shape place on a map and in Fenn’s book he even states, “I asked for D’s on my grades.” I’d like someone to work with me on it.
It has been found page 99 and not on the poem and it was never it is some place its in the scrap book and the girl who found it told Fennel and she has the treasure
Mystery solved as to who owns it ? Funny you picked up on that .... in news stories that i have read after June 6th the person that he said has found his treasure ( no name given of course ) Forrest refers to a guy from "Back East" ....referred to here as, Chris Lafrite .... could it be him that found it ? After all Forrest does state here that he is a Treasure hunter ... Just Saying : )
WWWH is in, or related to a place name on a map / Not an area as such / But you still have to know what WWWH is ? , Say WWWH means eagle, then you go to a place with Eagle in its name / Does anyone follow me ? WWWH may not mean physically water even if it was a canyon but, at the same time could be the blaze you have to follow . take it in the view of the canyon down / may be ? its not whats in the poem ? it as to do with what's not in the poem ? Remember FF loves Art and Poetry and likes a joke or two. So when someone hinted that they knew WWWH FF said did you dip your toe in 😀 Good hunting from UK 😀 Stay safe 🙄
CreatingMind thank you for taking the time to reply, I haven’t seen all his interviews but find the story quite intriguing, would love to go on this adventure but living in Scotland a trillion miles away I doubt I will have the opportunity, hopefully whoever finally finds it puts in on display for all to see mr Fenn is a genuine man. Again thanks for the reply and if You are a searcher all the best of luck from Scotland.
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Oh man what he said at the end is just going to make me watch it 10x times! Thanks for the great video
Did I just hear him say what I think he said?
Depends what you heard him say
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You can tell Forrest Fenn will not lie ,even when he feels he misled he stops and explains further. I hope the world will remember a man who gave the trill of the chase to many. By doing so he gave priceless wisdom to all who listen . He did his best to get families out into the wild where spirits run free.
Does anyone else secretly wish that Forrest Fenn was their Father/Grandfather? I could listen to his stories and advice ALL DAY! Amazing, how much a stranger can feel so close to your spirit and not even know you exist. He such a warm breath of fresh air. Thank you, Forrest, for everything you've taught me over the years and for the confidence to travel to unknown places to learn new thoughts and ideas of my own. Thank you 🤠
@ANNO DOMINI , Thank you! I will always have a special place in my heart for him. We share a very similar view on the mystery and fascination of the history of anthropology and how people lived their everyday lives. He also has such an amazing and creative mind when it comes to business as well... he's a natural. His wisdom is so inspiring to me. It allows me to really open up to accepting and embracing my failures as long as I pluck out the wisdom from the situation. Wisdom is sometimes the only gain you get when you fall. With that in mind, you can find positivity in even the hardest failures in life. Once again, thank you, Mr. Fenn!
Heather Guillen, Exactly:)
Heather Guillen Amen 🙏🏽
@@heatherdawnangelhetrickbro8076 Funny coincidence.... my middle name is Dawn! 😌
The more I watch Mr. Fenn the more I like him, and the more I like him I can harken to say I have come to adore this man. It truly is amazing what he has done, and I am so grateful to him and for him for it. Truly a one of a kind once in a generation type of maverick.
Look up the name of the street where the Fenn Gallery was located. Then think about Fenn considering himself as a Maverick. Kind of interesting but obviously dispositive.
20:39-“I shut down Wyoming, Montana, Northern Colorado but they don’t care.” Just like pg. 26, “I prayed for D’s in all my classes, but no one listened.” He’s basically saying his followers don’t care to follow his advice.
seems like clue
I do not think he said "I shut down..." I think he said, "They shut down..." as in the weather service and parks. He did, though, clearly state he made this same comment on 'Dal's Blog' so that is our next place to look and verify.
Richard Brooke i know where its at
If I can figure wtf to start
23:44 if Doug knows what a significant clue is, he would also know where the chest is. He doesn't, so he doesn't have superpowers (any more than the rest of us) to determine what things are significant clues and what things are not. But he probably heard something that correlates with his own ideas of how to interpret the poem.
This is so much like watching a guru laugh at his disciples as they overcomplicate everything. Forrest reminds me of Swami Prajnanpad, Arnaud Desjardins guru...
If I found the chest... I would drive myself to Santa Fe and contact Fenn first. This is Fenn HIS legacy. Fenn would know what to do as far as the treasure. I would want to meet Forrest Fenn! Yes, that would be important!
I got a funny feeling that he has set up a sub S trust or something that would require the finder go see him or at least his lawyer in order to claim it outright.
There has to be something in the chest like an mail or a phone number on it. Maybe a gold sheet or something that can withstand nature.
This is why I don't trust videos that are clipped. In my opinion, Preston clearly points at a chair Forrest Fenn was apparently sitting in, out of camera view and made a comment that was scrubbed. The people in the room, meaning the interviewers apparently had NO clue that was important at the time. It was only Preston's bold comment and Forrest Fenn's sheepish look that knocked the interviewers off their chair. Now, they don't care to share that Forrest Fenn moment with others. So why add that in the end? Was it a ploy to say - We know something you don't know? Sure seems like it to me.
Thank You for the mystery Forrest. It's got to take a lot of energy to hold back some of your secrets. Thanks for the strength in going forward with helping others fulfill some joy with the purpose of adventure of the chase. Take Care James L
Thanks Cowlazars
In thrill of the chase he says, “I asked for D’s on my grades.” One person who also writes like Fenn found a place with bluffs and a canyon with a place with a place that is a “D” shape. I found that comment about the D in the video that the lady asks at the beginning curious so I did research.
At 4:45 Forest said that the Electrical engineer name Christ Frida (I think), he is from "Back East"... Does that sounds familiar?. Recently Forest said that the person that found the treasure was from "Back East". could be the same person?.
I picked up on that too. He said Chris Lafeida. Look him up, he actually has video of him finding the location of one of Fenn’s downed planes which he talks about here.
@@jeremysiperly Thanks a lot!.
@bob burnquist He did say that too but maybe just to avoid getting bothered about it. Who knows at this point
Preston: "A significant clue was said" UGH... these Museum references are killing me!
he almost insisted the treasure finder hold onto it for 30 days without doing anything, yet the treasure was brought to him right away..
Its 🍇 in a mason jar!
Hidden in the back yard, but he forgot to put sugar in it dam!
Hahahaha!
You gatta love this guy!
He totally told us where it was . This blows me away every day I watch his vids
This is a great series of clips. More info and clues than most out there.
WOW THIS WAS VERY VERY RECENT amazing
I found the treasure! It is located in the Thrill of the Chase - page 105! "When this realization hit me , at last I knew it... If I cannot enrich those with whom I interact each day and cause them to be better for my having passed their view, then I have wasted my turn (on this earth). That I succeeded in this endeavor is not as as important as it is for me to make a solid try. For if the try is sincere I have succeeded in whatever failure resulted." - Forrest Fenn
This is an amazing nugget that I have added to my own treasure chest of what is valuable in my life. "For where your treasure is there will your heart be also." Thank you Mr. Fenn! I was in Santa Fe recently on my way home from photographing sandhill cranes at Bosque del Apache Bird Refuge and unsuccessfully tried to find Mr. Fenn to thank him for this wonderful insight. If anyone who visits this site and reads this, please pass on my sincere gratitude for his wisdom.
I read the book as it was loaned to me by a friend who was seeking the treasure. I was intrigued by Mr. Fenn' s experiences and insights, the most important of which is listed above. I was not in need of seeking money or in the need of adventure as I have just completed a 32 year career in wildlife management - But I do hope people who read the books will evaluate what the treasures are in their own lives and do as Mr. Fenn suggests and that is to enrich the lives of others!
phil douglass on page 99 and it’s been found
@@romigirl5239 the treasure??
I just noticed that at 11:50 when Kristy wants Forrest to confirm that the finder will own the chest AND the gold, not only does Forrest NOT say "yes" he specifically reminds Kristy that the poem only mentions the gold, and then states, "there is a SUBCHAPTER ESSENCE." Now we seem to have confirmation that (perhaps) he wants the chest and/or other items returned!!! What do you all think?? (I'm in the chat rooms. I'm the NYC high school Earth Science teacher (25+years) . .( there is another Laura in the chat room.)). He further states that if you rent a cabin on private property you can use the facilities but do not own items on it----perhaps further proof that he will have the right to ask for pieces back !!!
he said before the bio rights are not yours
it's two things , the treasure and the chest are two different things, if you find one of them he'll give you title to the gold. Don't look for a chest IMO , look for a jar with anonymous transfer of landownership in it, then dig out your treasure on your new private property. Not anything new but still the best explanation IMO
@higgs singlet Thank you 'higgs: for two weeks on Toby and Cowl. videos they were talking about the tax implications of filing with a Title S. Now we know the underlying context.
Understand "Forrest For Dummies" - There is NO CHEST as you have envisioned in your mind. (Metaphorical / "ARTISTIC LICENSE" / Spinning A Tail /etc.,etc. ,etc.
BOMB 💣- Book Of Mormon Book/
If I find it I will give him back the bracelet he wanted and regretted putting in Indulgence also would give Dal Nietzel a few articles I am goin to look this year I have a logical solve
“I found out that my conception of a Lotta words is not what the dictionary says”.
Douglas Preston is just a great guy...
It’s in New Mexico. Up by Los Alamos to be exact. I’m not reading too much into this. Just going with my heart.
They are still not showing everything from the interview...
Tester Account correct, and we do not intend to. The documentary is the priority and will have clips in them and we will continue to put clips out. Probably going to take a break from that for a while, and we focus on several other things in the chase.
@@kpro7697 Well of course...but those S clauses..
I am sorry you did not know about the documentary or confused in some way. I am glad I could clarify :)
@@kpro7697 Your gold fever attraction makes me a little sad about the direction of humanity.
Please do not think I represent all of mankind. I also do not represent all documentary makers. I am so glad I got that off my chest, I have needed to say that for sometime. Whew, thank goddess, I can sleep now.
This just made my solve alot more guarnteed to find nothing but ill store it under my bed.
This is UrbanTaint. I could of swore Forrest said he won that bracelet in a caed game. Not a pool game. But I havent studied Forrest Fenn in a while. Let me know if I'm wrong guys. I'm sure theres an old video still up.
If someone found it... we would be seeing newly found artifacts up for sale of the same degree he stated was buried within the chest.
16:45 What is he referring to about lost stuff in Mesa, Arizona?
The Lost Dutchman mine is another treasure. His point is people will continue to look until its found.
Guess Montana, Wyoming, and Northern Colorado are out now.
That's kind of the way I took that... but surely I took it wrong. ?
wow that's huge. I'm going to try to find the comment on Dal's blog just to be sure. Maybe he just meant shut down for the season.
yea i wonder why that slipped by
Winter... out for now
It starts out as a conversation, then an interview, then an interrogation and then an inquisition. What a pushy, rude interviewer!
For real what gave him this idea
Yo, he says “1000 gold nuggets” lmao. 😵 😂 .
From this interview I believe he has the actual treasure, if you find the box it prolly has a note or something in there to contact forest to give the phrase or code or whatever it is and he will give you the gold because he and the poem sez title to the “gold” not the other items in the treasure box.
Well I hope he's checked up on it.. If I found a title to gold I'd treat it as a joke and probably lose it somewhere. I was expecting Forest to be a tough Johnny Appleseed character but he looks like a Floridian business man.
Water activated before it halts
@@CJM-rg5rt Has it ever crossed your mind that your words have power? Forrest might read your comment. What you said is really inconsiderate, or at least calloused. Build people up. It should be easy enough to do with people that excite or inspire you.
@@blackbeardedsantaclausscar3798 you're right, I changed it a little. That was how I felt then, not so much now.
I love you Forrest Fenn!!
11:44 what does Forrest say about the title to the gold? I can't quite make out the words. "There's a lot of sub-chapter essings to that rule too (??) -- but I don't want to go there"
What did Forrest start to say at the end... about adding to the mystery. Doug cut him off. More conversation there that you cut off and didn't share?
New year and new day of being positive !
Kpro Minute 18, he doesn't say drive. Also at minute 9 in Cynthia's most recent vid (2/3/20) at minute 9ish he also doesn't say drive. Hope you know, I'm NOT trying to nit pick, only analyzing for clarity and other possibilities. Thanks to you all we have video and are able to do so!
Thanks for sharing this. Does anyone know what happened to Man Alone? All of his videos have been deleted.
He's done that before.
Is it possible to extend the clip at 14:16, 14:17 where it abruptly cuts as he's talking about renting property (cabin or whatever it may be).
Tester Account that was the end of the response.
@@kpro7697 ok... thanks.
He is sharp as a tack📌
20:36 He says that he shut down Montana, WYOMING, and northern Colorado. Is he saying that he previously ruled out those areas? I thought the treasure was eventually found in Wyoming. But if he had previously said it wasn't, that makes me think all the conspiracy theories may be right. That it was in New Mexico and then moved? That would make me so sad. I want this to be a totally pure story without any of this mess about rehiding it.
Shut down from searching in the winter its to dangerous.
@@CowLazars Thank you! What a relief.
Great Share, Great Post!!!!
I find a very interesting and new comment located at 13:40.
Does Forrest just confirm that it's in a NP or NF? In a place we would pay(RENT as he puts it) an entrance fee, to use and enjoy the space for a said amount of time?
Does this quote answer questions like "legally would the finder own the chest and contents"?
This is an exciting new turn of events....Even Preston says he's never heard Forrest say this before...well say something but I believe he's refering to this quote .
Great stuff...keep it up Kpro and CowLazars
I think you guys are overthinking it... he was talking about the legality of actually taking the abandoned chest if the land switch from public land to tribal or government land. Has nothing to do with renting a house in a certain town
What's everyone's take on dougs comment about the new clue? my thought is the comment by Forest when he said you start the chase by getting in your car and driving to the first clue. This confirms that wwwh can be driven to? What do you think?
My take on the new clue? (Why care about others opinions?) The more interesting statement was cutting off MT. WY. and N. Colo. And Prestons is obviously referencing that comment. Combined with questions with Cynthia (?) asking her why she discounts New Mexico? (not a direct quote). But most interesting is what is it that Doug Preston knows that no one else does? How could he make such an emphatic "bold" statement? He cannot without having inside knowledge. Take a guess as to the new "clue" from the interview. But Preston knows something. Do the early searchers from say 8 years ago have the same information from FF that we do today? Of course not. The Chase is patently unfair to say the least and FF didn't anticipate very well. This Chase is FF's so he can do it anyway he wants. But the questions being asked these days makes one wonder about this "adventure" Doesn't it?
@@sms1949 My take on "shutting down MT. WY. and N CO was simply staying to shut down the search season until spring. FF has made reference to this meaning the search season.
@@josholsen645 Think it through. Hopefully it was a safety issue. But what about N. Mex and S. Colo? Snow there also. Winter conditions in the Rockies are quite similar at high elevations. Interesting to know about what went throught ff mind when making the statement.
@@sms1949 The lady was searching in weather that was 1 degree F, its not as cold towards the southern areas he mentioned. In MANY Q&A Forrest has mentioned to call the search off until Spring. In my opinion, he was telling people not to go out in those dangerous elements. It's your solve, but I wouldn't take that comment as gospel - or a clue.
The parking lot quote sent me on a long and costly wild goose chase... I should have worried about primary sources, not secondhand memories!
Could you also upload a video without any jump cuts so we know there's nothing being excluded?
I've said that myself... seems pretty sketchy that they withhold information for themselves until they deem their own time and edits to release these things... never again.
Not at this time, we are using some for the documentary. Those are being cut out for now. We are trying to bring a lot to the community and grateful for all the positive feedback for a clear majority.
@tester account you're pretty damn rude for making comment without doing any research. And if the chase is something you've been apart of then be grateful theres a community that will share anything at all.
@@dr.dazzle5183 I don't think there's any reason for either of you to be this upset.
I just think Forrest should require anyone who interviews him by video to release an unedited uncut version and if they want to they can also release whatever finished cut up product as well. This way we can verify for ourselves no information is being withheld.
.... then there's this.
..Forrest said the plane crashed 55 seconds after he ejected. Why did he not say a minute after?
Why so precise: 33 1/2 inch canvas? 8.25 miles north? title to the gold? etc.
Surely at the speed the plane was flying, another 5 secs would take it miles farther away. The location was achieved by precise timing not guess or round up. IMHO
So I’m confused he says it’s no where in a man made place but now you rent or can use facilities? Now it’s only New Mexico. Everywhere else is out!
No one is saying that.
Cowlazars go listen to this video around the end and he does mention like if you could rent something would you be able to leave the property with it and he mentions people are overlooking New Mexico and he says I closed off Utah, Colorado and Arizona
@@18shadyblue where did he say stay out of Ragtag Colorado? I missed that part. Time?
Stratton of the River Valley I cant remember but he does say people skip over Santa Fe and he says quote on quote I’ve told people no longer Utah, Wyoming, Montana or Colorado. I will rewatch.
Stratton of the River Valley 20:39-20:43, I have shut down Wyoming, Utah, Montana and Northern Colorado then he continues to say that people tend to over look New Mexico.
No such thing as a lead searcher, thank God he said that it’s so insane to hear delusional narcissists say I’m the lead searcher or I was, and numerous people self proclaim themselves as such. It really brings the crazies out
Hey I have a fun exciting idea. Is there a way Forrest Fenn would release the information to you and a group of us go to the spot and create a time capsule that is a chest I have where each of us add an item for generations to come find? Then in the time capsule add the fenn books as items because he started the chase. I think it would be a great idea to bury a time capsule with each person who loved the chase. So we all add a piece of our hearts into the chest? This would make his heart happy.
It has been solved but my understanding Fenn refuses to confirm it. There is no box in the rockys. Its more about solving a complex visual artistic puzzle then presenting your answer to him and he will then give title to the gold but he is currently being sued in Federal Court in New Mexico. Case no. 19-cv-01124. Brian Erskine who is a party to the case filed a 78 page answer explaining in detail the answer and how fenn refuses to admit it is solved and pay up.
In the interview Forest said he got the treasure idea from, what sounded like “Racho Renn”. This was at 19:50-53. Does anyone know for sure what he said?
He says, "Ralph Lauren" gave him the idea which is new to me.
Ralph Lauren gave him the idea in saying ‘you can’t take it with you’. He knew him and he happened to come look at some of his collection. This gave him the idea to pass some treasures on by way of a hunt. That’s all.
What river did Douglas mention ... Galondica Guyena or what?
Paul S why?
@@nsr5961 because I could not hear what he said ... I have not heard of a river named Galondica Guyena.
Is it possible that Chris LaFrieda is the finder from “back East?”
I heard that. Immediately hit pause to check the comments
Rodney Greenway I actually messaged Chris and he said it was not him
Don't give up on exploring the Rockies, people!
And thats the real treasure!!
Didn't Douglas say one time that Forest's first version of the poem was too easy? If he doesn't know where the chest was heading how would he know it was too easy? Answer: He knew the state.
@cowlazars what do you think it’s most important clue in the poem? You said “yes” like it gave you a huge hint, but essentially English is hard to define and I don’t think you can even unlock the last clue without finding the treasure. And they (let’s be real; HE /HIM; Forrest said it) didn’t find the treasure without finding the blaze. Looking for something is not as important as being. Adventure is not outdoors, adventure is within.
How will he know when it’s found? Does he live five minutes from it? Does he have cameras inside the erasure chest or surrounding it? Truly how will he know if he’s too old to go in search of his own treasure?
MISSING 1000 YEARS that’s not my question! My question was how does he know when it’s truly found in its spot?
There is something in that chest that he is not willing to talk about. In the end the person who finds that chest will have a tough choice. Settle for what is in the chest and not redeem that extra fortune, or simply cash in the bonus and then the financial institution is going to notify Forrest or the heirs that some one has found the chest. As I see it, the treasure is probably worth close to 750,000 since the majority of its content is gold. All it takes is something else in the treasure chest that can survive the elements and be worth as much or more than the chest. It could also be attached to that Sub chapter S's comment where there is a stipulation of some sort that would make the owner of the chest come forward to claim the bonus. I guess it depends on whether some one wants the publicity or the privacy.
Kpro can a signed book be purchased? If not I need to order anyways,I can not get PayPal to work ,what options to pay do u recommend, looking at an order Feb. 19 or so...ty
Ok Kpro, I watched tobster's for your call. That dude is no mountain man, he deserves the book thrown at him. He is trying to find allies like you maybe just for his own mental health. It was premeditated crime, poorly executed, placing rescue personnel in harm's way. Probably causing the end of the permit program that was fought for by real enthusiast for years. Distance yourself would be my advice, take it or leave it!
Sledneck I appreciate it.
I will leave it. I believe in Fenn and his treasure is his legacy. Nothing but respect for Fenn!
Just go get the chest it’s gonna make all us happy
Mr f, was Kirk Johnson’s old parking spot your 10th clue?
One day I will find this FF treasure.
You and me both..
@@NovaLand I give you title to the gold.
me too
Me ..high noon
ditto...!
yes ua re right lost dutchman is right here 25 mins away and really 3 exits from me i been to it few times with schools n just to hike lots people go there its not that big really
IM GLAD HE WAS ALIVE WHEN SOMEONE FOUND IT ITS BEEN FOUND ON THE 6TH
I hope someone who's actually searched finds this, but has anyone tried nambe falls????
Just looked it up, that's a beautiful spot man! It fits the criteria too. Give it try! Throw me a couple buck when you find it ;)
You guys need to chop up each clip and make individual videos. More ad revenue for you guys
Like always people just keep pushing him and when he gives a inch they want a mile. Forrest Fenn is one in a billionn.
At the tip of the finger is the ye of the blaze the feather in a cap of an Indian craze
You guys obviously cut out the piece immediately after him saying something about renting private land for 24 hours.... he said "you see where that can go?..." and the edit jumped to something else.
In my OPINION you are withholding information from others.
That's all I have to say...
I HOPE HE GRANTS THE WINNER A FREE INTERVIEW OR A MEETING
Poor guy,one can tell he's getting super old :(
that will be you in 10 years
@@strattonoftherivervalley3696 But I'm only 20 :(
Uncharted 5 confirmed "After new and old". Xd
Game is pretty dope
Congrats to solver paul paul and finder man alone!
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So many details, too little time. I say, Forrest said give the poem to a child. Means keep it simple
Read the poem. Read all three of his books of memoirs. Put two and two together, get in your car and go if you can afford it. Took me 8 yrs to arrive at my unique solve and have the experience of seeing the place once. But, of course, no find. Not yet
Lisa Beam I may only have one book but my question to you is do you think when he’s speaking about the French men grave markers and the field he’s speaking of a place that is forgotten and those French soldiers? I typed in words from the poem and his first book into google and another author like Fenn mentions some place forgotten too and he tells the place in his book and this place comes up when you type in all his clues.
@@18shadyblue He could be speaking of a place such as this..In my solve I see the special waterfall that brought Forrest to this location
In my solve of the poem Heavy Loads and Water High is the watrrfall. I am not sure about the French soldier. I know each person interprets the poem differently. You could be right in your thoughts, so could I. We could be friends and try to solve the search. Nobody has been successful yet. If I were to find it, I would tell Fenn...
Lisa Beam I found a place by the Colorado River that has been forgotten over time with golden cotton fields and white bluffs and marble stones and a barn wire fence by the river that is forgotten and I found this by some other author who mentions it. Plus they say in their book their is a “D” shape place on a map and in Fenn’s book he even states, “I asked for D’s on my grades.” I’d like someone to work with me on it.
Children love to roll-play. So did Forrest as an adult. Who were his heroes?
Chief Ahusaka that one author catcher of the rye! I found a D shape on a map of the place I found! He does mention asking for D’s on his grades!
It has been found page 99 and not on the poem and it was never it is some place its in the scrap book and the girl who found it told Fennel and she has the treasure
What girl?
CreatingMind
Cynthia. Said the map was on page 99
@@romigirl5239 so you think the treasure has been found by Cynthia? I'm confused by the original comment. Sorry I'm just really curious what you mean.
Must be why you have a creatingmind. It has been found
@@romigirl5239 And so you're sure the treasure has been found based on what someone said...? No proof just ol page 99 reference?
Sound is dreadful
Key word I believe is "IT".
I just want someone to find it so we can just get over it. people are getting crazy and die because of it.
He's from "back east", lol.
Mystery solved as to who owns it ? Funny you picked up on that .... in news stories that i have read after June 6th the person that he said has found his treasure ( no name given of course ) Forrest refers to a guy from "Back East" ....referred to here as, Chris Lafrite .... could it be him that found it ? After all Forrest does state here that he is a Treasure hunter ... Just Saying : )
Wise=Wisdom
Whoever finds Indulgence is hereby required to return the 22 bead Mesa Verde bracelet back to Forrest or they will be cursed Forever Mojo 369
16:20 No one is mad
wrong. haven't you watched Diary of an Angry Fenn Searcher?
Stratton of the River Valley I have not seen this show. Do you have a link?
WWWH is in, or related to a place name on a map / Not an area as such / But you still have to know what WWWH is ? , Say WWWH means eagle, then you go to a place with Eagle in its name / Does anyone follow me ? WWWH may not mean physically water even if it was a canyon but, at the same time could be the blaze you have to follow . take it in the view of the canyon down / may be ? its not whats in the poem ? it as to do with what's not in the poem ? Remember FF loves Art and Poetry and likes a joke or two. So when someone hinted that they knew WWWH FF said did you dip your toe in 😀 Good hunting from UK 😀 Stay safe 🙄
Maybe someone has already asked him, but I would have asked if it was possible to accidentally find it?
I think I recall him saying in a video once that it would be almost impossible for someone just to stumble upon it.
CreatingMind thank you for taking the time to reply, I haven’t seen all his interviews but find the story quite intriguing, would love to go on this adventure but living in Scotland a trillion miles away I doubt I will have the opportunity, hopefully whoever finally finds it puts in on display for all to see mr Fenn is a genuine man. Again thanks for the reply and if You are a searcher all the best of luck from Scotland.
I am the 3339th viewer:) WOW 😮 333 everywhere
Tigers and AK 47s . 😉
Canyon.
U got this for sure
I hope you can stop with the murder. You started
1000% fake
Its all fake