ABC Nightline 1984 - The Jacksons Victory Tour controversy

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  • @isuriadireja91
    @isuriadireja91 Год назад +369

    If you consider the fact that there's never been an Off the Wall or Thriller Tour, and instead there were Triumph and Victory Tours..you gotta commend Michael for being that humble and putting his family first before his own ego, despite the mega huge successes of those two solo albums of his.

    • @freebandz4332
      @freebandz4332 Год назад +60

      His family forced him

    • @XP9724
      @XP9724 Год назад +35

      I think it was smart too, u get to get 4 catalogues in 1 show. The Jackson 5 hits, The Jacksons hits at the time, MJ solo hits, and Jermaine's solo hits cuz he was on a run of top 40 hits before and after the tour. I wish they would've actually performed music from the actual Victory album tho, a live performance of Torture would've been great

    • @KDashSix
      @KDashSix Год назад +27

      I can’t even imagine a solo ‘Thriller’ tour… Would’ve done the biggest numbers in history, point-blank. Period.

    • @pagandeva2000
      @pagandeva2000 Год назад +10

      @@XP9724 I heard something about how the record sales for that album really didn’t do well enough to justify adding any songs from it. Personally, I would’ve loved State of Shock being played on tour

    • @XP9724
      @XP9724 Год назад +12

      @@pagandeva2000 Not true, the album was literally double platinum in only a few months and they had 2 other hits after state of shock. Torture was a top 20 hit and Body was right outside the top 40, if the sales weren't good they wouldn't have named it the victory tour

  • @princenamor1939
    @princenamor1939 Год назад +215

    I was making $3.60 an hour, stood in line for 4 hours with an injured back and got two tickets in the 18th row, $30 apiece. It was worth it!

  • @ricky6935
    @ricky6935 Год назад +174

    I was there.. Neyland Stadium in Knoxville Tennessee in 1984, they sold out the stadium 3 nights in a row!! That was in 84, have never seen another tour of this magnitude since and its 2023. the Jackson's are EPIC and legends! Its crazy then to have Michael and Janet break off and be 2 of the biggest pop stars to date. that's pretty damn cool 🔥🔥🔥💯❤️❤️❤️

    • @Cedrclovesutube
      @Cedrclovesutube Год назад +1

      Totally agree

    • @for-house-stark
      @for-house-stark Год назад

      ​@july3410lmao, you think because Taylor swifts concert tickets are more expensive than the victory tour that it makes her bigger than Michael jackson at his peak? You're delusional af. Jackson drew far bigger crowds, had more concert attendances and sold far more records than failure swift ever could

    • @tatkoy8963
      @tatkoy8963 Год назад +41

      ⁠@july3410bro su we don’t care about Taylor she can’t hold a candle to Michael Jackson he has more talent in his finger than her whole body

    • @fredstriker2042
      @fredstriker2042 Год назад +4

      Was row 2 on the field show 1 in Knoxville. My Mother must have been really putting it to the idiot she was gold digging

    • @fredstriker2042
      @fredstriker2042 Год назад +5

      ​@july3410 or perhaps he doesn't waste his money on crap like Taylor

  • @areguapiri
    @areguapiri Год назад +71

    People today will never see anything like this again. The greatest concert performances ever. Thank you, Jacksons!

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri Год назад +1

      @july3410...A "65 year old black man" comparing Taylor Swift to Michael Jackson. Are you dumb enough to expect anyone to believe that?.....lol

    • @johnnyfonk999
      @johnnyfonk999 Год назад +2

      Beyoncé Taylor Swift you know

    • @johnnyfonk999
      @johnnyfonk999 Год назад

      @James-gr4io you are a goddamn lie. You can’t see or hear anything on the ground that’s 11 miles away

    • @adriennegaston8219
      @adriennegaston8219 Год назад +1

      @july3410 ever heard of the phrase "Michael Jackson famous"? There's a reason why every so-called pop sensation today is compared to HIM not her! At best, she's mediocre 😴

    • @adriennegaston8219
      @adriennegaston8219 Год назад +1

      @july3410 so you stay on that train 🚂 you sixty-five year old black man...

  • @jrodindigo
    @jrodindigo Год назад +215

    What's heartbreaking about this is.... this was originally supposed to be Michael solo tour for Thriller. His parents pressured him into bringing his brothers on the road because some of them had money issues. Don King got involved and made things worse. I went to the show and it was awesome, but it was bittersweet knowing all of this.

    • @MrBlackBono
      @MrBlackBono Год назад

      I knew having don king was not a good idea that dude is a theif

    • @tanishakennedy4616
      @tanishakennedy4616 Год назад +10

      That's not true! Michael was on the album with his brothers a long with the Thriller album

    • @MsTrueTy
      @MsTrueTy Год назад +46

      ​@@tanishakennedy4616It's true the brothers had money problems. So Michael decided to do the Jacksons tour when originally he was supposed to promote Thriller. So in a way he is right. Michael was pressured. But he only agreed to do it if he had a solo segment for the thriller hits. I believe because he learned of the ticket scandal he donated his own earnings to bring down the tickets. But he left the tour was the first leg was over. There is A lot! That happened look up the channel the Detail. Michael was very upset about this tour. And retired from the Jacksons while on this tour

    • @MrBlackBono
      @MrBlackBono Год назад +8

      @@MsTrueTy it make sense cause for long time I was saying thriller is the only one that didn’t have a tour I was like what happened

    • @KDC256
      @KDC256 Год назад +16

      ​@@MsTrueTyYou'd have to wonder why it never dawned on Michael Jackson's brothers, "You know, I don't seem to be making much income unless I'm performing with my brother Michael. I need to find ways of generating personal income for myself independent of Michael."

  • @jacquettamckinney1864
    @jacquettamckinney1864 Год назад +195

    You mean I could have seen The Jacksons for $30 bucks a ticket!!!! If only I was born 😢!!!!!

  • @mrg8581
    @mrg8581 Год назад +50

    I miss Michael Jackson and the 1980s. Rest in peace Michael.

    • @POLOGEE
      @POLOGEE Год назад +7

      Nothing was better than the 80's!!!

    • @alf2410
      @alf2410 Год назад +5

      The 80’s being in high school was the best.. loving Madonna and Michael so much.

    • @galenjoyce8895
      @galenjoyce8895 Год назад +6

      Michael Jackson and the 80's. Such a fun time.

  • @LeonLacey
    @LeonLacey Год назад +30

    You see which media HATED MJ, this is disgusting how they ALWAYS found ways to try to make his life miserable… he was the HARDEST training music performer of the millennium and these folks scrutinized him even though he gave millions back

  • @nah....6151
    @nah....6151 Год назад +86

    funny how in 1984 $30 (which is about 80 today) was seen as highway robbery but nowadays with scalpers you can't even get into the stadium to see Taylor for under $1000

    • @supercoolyguy
      @supercoolyguy Год назад +4

      @$1k ea.
      If 6-8 Swifties got together they could get a sky suite.
      This just happened via FB. The only seats available in Seattle.

    • @mikeyj990ify
      @mikeyj990ify Год назад +4

      Pearl jam fought ticketmaster over prices and they were about $28 to see a popular band in the 90s

    • @mikeyj990ify
      @mikeyj990ify Год назад +4

      So $30 in mid 80s prob was robbery

    • @mrg8581
      @mrg8581 Год назад +2

      People in Detroit paid over $1,500 for tickets to Swift's concert at Ford Field. Insane.

    • @nah....6151
      @nah....6151 Год назад +6

      @@mikeyj990ify it wasn't really robbery though. MJ was the biggest star in the world at the time (the same way Taylor is today) so its understandable that tix to see him were a little higher, but ultimately 30 really wasn't that insane for ticket prices comparative to how you need to take a loan out today to get halfway decent seats to a huge star. 30 in 1984 was roughly 80-100 today, still cheaper than many artists' nosebleeds

  • @jibrealbattle
    @jibrealbattle 2 месяца назад +7

    That man donated his entire pay to charity and still gave it his all for each performance❤

  • @4thdimension760
    @4thdimension760 Год назад +20

    AYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I’m from NC and went to the show at RFK stadium!! I was in third grade. Mom, her friend, her daughter, my sister. We were up in the nosebleeds lol! When I got back to school with my Thriller shirt and glove necklace, my classmates had jaws dropped.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      You could only buy 4 Tickets maximum. You listed 4 ppl PLUS you! ???

  • @azucarmorena5000
    @azucarmorena5000 Год назад +21

    My dad recorded this one vhs. My parents grew up on Jackson 5 music and made sure we were fans too.

  • @Yanadew
    @Yanadew Год назад +38

    It’s so wonderful to see parts from this concert, I remember the excitement! They were awesome and to see vintage Michael, to hear his voice, see him move across the stage , just beautiful! 😢❤❤❤❤

  • @troyelam8978
    @troyelam8978 11 месяцев назад +10

    That music critic sums up what I have been saying for years, when he talks about the age variation of the crowd. I have never known another artist where they are your one of your grandma‘s favorite artists, your mother‘s favorite artist, your favorite artist, and one of your child’s favorite artists! Just incredible.

  • @GnarlsBarkley123
    @GnarlsBarkley123 Год назад +64

    I was lucky to see a screening of MJ’s 40th Thriller Documentary (I wish the estate would RELEASE IT) and you see the Jacksons perform in 4K and it’s amazing!

    • @mdecimal1753
      @mdecimal1753 Год назад +4

      What??? How’d you pull that off???

    • @anneliesejackson507
      @anneliesejackson507 Год назад

      Did you film the footage

    • @GnarlsBarkley123
      @GnarlsBarkley123 Год назад

      @@mdecimal1753 last year, there was a very last minute invite for the Thriller 40th Doc from the official MJ site. I live in Los Angeles and got lucky. The whole documentary wasn’t shown but most of it was, in 4K! You see a young MJ in the studio singing his face off and lots of other stuff. Can’t wait for the world to see it.

    • @freebandz4332
      @freebandz4332 Год назад +1

      🧢

    • @key214
      @key214 Год назад +7

      The estate are really annoying me with this thriller 40 documentary!! Just release it already ffs

  • @obstud9
    @obstud9 Год назад +22

    I remember recording this on my VCR and anything else Jackson. The concert was at Giant stadium and was out of sight. Miss the good old days 😪 happy to see the new ones 😅

  • @4thecollectors
    @4thecollectors Год назад +18

    They did this without social media

  • @musiclove5935
    @musiclove5935 Год назад +23

    All the chaos involved is probably why MJ, wasn’t to happy to do tours with brothers more often. Too many people behind the scenes with their own agendas.

  • @NthaH2od
    @NthaH2od Год назад +11

    I remember this, like it was yesterday. I was 16 years old and went the 2nd night. The 2nd night must be my lucky night, because in 1988 on his 2nd tour. I was lucky enough to get a free ticket from someone in his entourage. Rest in Peace MJJ.

  • @pagandeva2000
    @pagandeva2000 Год назад +67

    Jackie is a liar. His wife busted him with Paula Abdul and ran his ass over. THATS why he missed some of the VictoryTour

    • @The1trueking1966
      @The1trueking1966 Год назад

      Glad the spearchucking bastard got hurt,bitch deserved it

    • @The1trueking1966
      @The1trueking1966 Год назад

      Why didn't she kill his black ass?

    • @musiclove5935
      @musiclove5935 Год назад +34

      I wouldn’t expect him to admit that publicly.

    • @SupremeNerd
      @SupremeNerd Год назад +20

      Yeah I wouldn't tell that either.... To anybody lol

    • @ana.aliciaaaaa
      @ana.aliciaaaaa Год назад +9

      😂😂

  • @alanmckenzie9599
    @alanmckenzie9599 Год назад +16

    You can see me @ 2:25 - 2:28.... Crazy... I was 10-yrs old...

  • @monilaninetynine3811
    @monilaninetynine3811 28 дней назад +2

    I wanted to see them so bad, but that show didn't come to my hometown. I'm still happy for the two times I got to see them, though. I can tell my grandkids I was in the same room with Michael Jackson twice in my life.

  • @irondragon8207
    @irondragon8207 Год назад +63

    Jackie’s on crutches 🩼 because his wife caught him cheating with Paula Abdul and ran him over smh

    • @DavidNeumeier-wp2oc
      @DavidNeumeier-wp2oc Год назад +16

      I guess Jackie Inherited the cheater trait from
      His father Joseph Walter Jackson
      Joe cheated on his wife Katherine Jackson all the time.

    • @DJGary0910
      @DJGary0910 Год назад +12

      He tried get his story together 😅😅😅

    • @manulem5020
      @manulem5020 Год назад +5

      WTF

    • @5star64
      @5star64 Год назад +2

      That’s hear say. Unproven gossip. You were not there when he was injured.

    • @kimariokiji
      @kimariokiji Год назад +5

      Yep. And Enid designed the guys’ costumes for this tour.

  • @debragarner4884
    @debragarner4884 Год назад +28

    All those people, only wanted to see Michael. Me too!

    • @cedric7122
      @cedric7122 Год назад +4

      Nope.

    • @gin40
      @gin40 Год назад +1

      Me too

    • @brianpratts
      @brianpratts Год назад +5

      Yeah cause Michael was the star

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Год назад +2

      @@cedric7122 Yeah, a lot of girls preferred the lower key superstar like Jermaine.

    • @bigt5699
      @bigt5699 Год назад

      I was there JACKSONS

  • @ltfringr
    @ltfringr Год назад +35

    Crazy that this was MJ's biggest controversy at one point. Rest in peace

    • @Juanthemtg
      @Juanthemtg 7 месяцев назад +4

      Little did he know about the bs they would say about this man

    • @DavidAndTheDummies
      @DavidAndTheDummies 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ikr?! Such a shame

  • @weluvfood2865
    @weluvfood2865 Год назад +18

    I went to the Victory Tour, best tour of my entire life. I wish I could’ve went to the Bad Tour because its my personal favorite to watch on youtube

    • @EFunkRock
      @EFunkRock 7 месяцев назад +2

      The Bad Tour was amazing!!

  • @chillywillie6283
    @chillywillie6283 Год назад +10

    I was overseas serving in the USAF the whole year of 1984, so l missed any opportunities to see this tour. Just five years earlier in May 1979, l was in the back of a Florida theater for a Jacksons concert when they arrived and where there was no security and no crowds. There was just the group, the limo driver and me.

    • @Job.Well.Done_01
      @Job.Well.Done_01 Год назад +1

      Lol this is awesome I could see it as I read your post. How was the show? Did you get any good Polaroid pictures ?

  • @ufjazzman
    @ufjazzman Год назад +7

    I missed out on the Victory tour, but managed to see the Bad tour about 4 years later.

  • @1973poty
    @1973poty Год назад +31

    We were kids and we actually believed the glitter was really jumping off his socks.

  • @Awinst01
    @Awinst01 Год назад +4

    When I was a teenager I was part of a large church youth group that went on a two week choir tour that would end up in Washington, DC where we would sing at the capital building. We were out of Jackson, MS and had chartered two buses from a company called “Jackson Tour and Travel”. Emblazoned across the sides of each bus were those words - “Jackson Tour and Travel” along with a logo that used a drawing of the world. This just happened to be the same time when the Jacksons were on their victory tour. Every time we’d stop for gas or to eat fast food in a town along the way, word would get out that the Jacksons were in their town and had stopped for lunch. The phones would be ringing off the hooks in the fast food joints asking if The Jacksons were in the restaurants. The parking lots would fill with people wanting to see the buses hoping to get a glimpse of someone famous. And then, when reality set in you’d see a wave of disappointment among the locals as they got back in their cars a got back to their everyday lives, having seen nothing but a bunch of teenagers from Jackson, Mississippi.

  • @robfromvan
    @robfromvan Год назад +9

    I begged my mom to go to this when I was a kid but we couldn’t afford it!! I’m glad I had the cassette tape!!! 😳🙏😁

  • @wilmmerwest3876
    @wilmmerwest3876 Год назад +20

    We need this full show from KC😭😭😭

  • @CCTH2221-lp2zj
    @CCTH2221-lp2zj Год назад +12

    I remember sleeping overnight at Scotties record shop when the tickets went on sale. I sealed those tickets in three envelopes with tape in my dresser. LOL

    • @carltonwalton9819
      @carltonwalton9819 Год назад +3

      You are part of history! Thank you for sharing!!!❤

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      LOL you obviously were underage and no access to a bank safe. But what you'd think these 3 envelopes would do?! 🫢🤣

  • @orlandocharlie1795
    @orlandocharlie1795 Год назад +18

    My dad and I went to the victory tour in Atlanta. My dad paid more than $30 for the tickets. I must have been only 9 years old.

  • @philipdefibaugh5683
    @philipdefibaugh5683 3 месяца назад +4

    Today, $200 is standard pricing for tickets. In 1996, KISS tickets were only $20 per person at their sold-out reunion. Now, you have to take out a loan to just get decent seats to a concert.
    Unlike the other Jacksons, Micheal cared enough to make it right to see the Victory Tour.

  • @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746
    @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746 Год назад +5

    I didn’t have any problems getting my tickets or seeing the concert so I’m happy it was my favorite concert by far

  • @MrWouda
    @MrWouda Год назад +33

    You can clearly see America has a problem in these piece SMH!!!!
    TBH All I can see is Yt America mad because all the money they knew these blk kings were about to gross with this iconic tour.
    THEY TRY TO STOP IT BUT YOU CANT STOP GREATNESS!!!!
    I LOVE THEY JACKSON!!!!
    REST IN POWER KING YOUR LEGACY LIVES ON!!!!

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Год назад

      Exactly. That cliff redneck Wallace just so apparently seems like the type.

    • @ericadial8801
      @ericadial8801 Год назад +7

      💯 Ted Kopel know could care less about low income people. If it was George Michael or Madonna he wouldn't question them😂

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Год назад +6

      @@ericadial8801 oh and those venue owners won't have NO problem accommodating those white artists..however crazy their demands would be.

    • @africkinamerican
      @africkinamerican Год назад

      🙄 Making everything be about race Is a very simplistic way to look at life. And how unpleasant it must be to go around thinking everybody hates you. That is a good way to actually make people hate you.

  • @ronaldshute1924
    @ronaldshute1924 Год назад +18

    It's funny how history paints a time period with a cost analysis. In 84 it was a lot to pay $30.00 for a ticket. But know one was as big an personality or group then M.J. or his brothers at the time. The value or bang for the buck is pennies compared to today's prices for a concert. And the talent level of today's acts couldn't hold a candle to The Jackson's let alone The king of Pop on his own.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      Only Trash Millenials feed their talentfree Z-elebrity Satanism Culture!
      I struggled hard in 2000s when Entertainment Quality whirlwinded down. Boycott it all since 2009!
      I seen Michael, Janet, Cher, Diana, Tina, Stevie.... pretty much every Supermegastar for about 25-35 EUR/USD. Later Whitney, Alicia and Beyoncé for 35-80 EUR.
      I don't get how ppl pay 150-1.000 EUR/USD for plain shit! Only due to these idiots the scalping goes on. Everyone whining... noone acting right.
      Sad these Trash Millenials camp outside Taylor Shit Stadiums and when they don't get a 1000 Dollar Ticket on Black Market and Janet performs in half empty Arenas for 150 EUR. Noone deserved WW3 more than these Teletubby Airheads!

  • @larryrogers3391
    @larryrogers3391 Год назад +10

    I remember watching this on TV like it was yesterday. Unfortunately Jackie wasn't being truthful about his injury. And I don't blame him. That concert was good, but the Triumph Tour was very good and still my all time favorite

  • @FredPena-rd5cf
    @FredPena-rd5cf Год назад +5

    I saw them at the Gator Bowl Jacksonville Fla 1984. Lionel Richie was there. He was introduced by Michael who pointed to him in one of the skyboxes. He was right above where i was sitting. Tickets were 20 bucks a piece.

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri Год назад +4

      I was there one of those nights in Jacksonville.

  • @debragarner4884
    @debragarner4884 Год назад +22

    Jackie,you know your wife at the time,was a big contributed to your knee issues! Ted should've interviewed Paula Abdul about the knee issues. Oh well,still love ya!

  • @phill.2924
    @phill.2924 Год назад +6

    The concert critic said that the high ticket price autimatically excluded a lot of people from seeing the show. Yes, thirty dollars is "cheap" compared to today. But, in 1984, wages were lower. I also think the average person had a different idea of how high he/she would pay for entertainment. He didn't have iphones that he would spend hundreds on without blinking an eye. There weren't Swift or Springsteen shows where he would somehow pull money away from living expenses to buy $700 tickets. 1984 was a different economy, but people really thought before they bought. Looking at money spent on entertainment today, it's ironic that the 80's have been labeled a decade of greed and excess.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      Trash Millenials have zero brains!
      They whine they can't afford college nor house. Well as long as they think they need most unnecessary each half year a new mobile phone, digital subscriptions, a dozen concerts annually and all... 🤷‍♀

  • @fozzir
    @fozzir Год назад +5

    I went to that concert at Mile High Stadium. We were in nose bleed but it was still awesome! I didn't think the ticket prices were high for what the entertainment value was.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      Were all Tickets 30 USD? Front Block to Nosebleeds? Do you recall if you could choose a category or absolutely lottery?!

  • @beyourself2444
    @beyourself2444 3 месяца назад +3

    MJ was so famous that they literally talked about this like it was the biggest controversy of all time just to boost ratings. I remember how famous he was and there's nobody since who has been any greater. Glad I lived through this time.

  • @darenross3337
    @darenross3337 11 месяцев назад +4

    I was there August 1984 Pontiac,Michigan

  • @levelimeade9613
    @levelimeade9613 Год назад +7

    Shout out to my hometown Kansas City Missouri 💯🤙🏽..... That was dope they came to the town to do they first show...

    • @KelleyNicholson
      @KelleyNicholson Год назад

      When Michael went solo he started his tour KC I wish I wasn't a baby at the time 😢

  • @kellyvandijk3269
    @kellyvandijk3269 Год назад +6

    I was at the Bad-tour in 1988. I’ll never forget.

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Год назад

      That's cool and all, but i think MJ just wasn't the same after Thriller, personally and musically.
      Thriller was his peak, sadly.

    • @lamaudelewis9866
      @lamaudelewis9866 Год назад +1

      @@isuriadireja91nah Bad was MJ creative peak! For sure even his dancing was better than thriller era

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Год назад

      @@lamaudelewis9866 🤣🤣
      😑😑 NO.
      especially the DANCING u said...?? U nuts..???
      starting with Bad, his singing was lesser than the ones he did in Off the Wall and Thriller and started to have more of the shouting and grunting...and his dancing was mostly repeating his old stuff and that dreaded military-tinged cartoony street gang macho stuff that's NO WAY NEAR the stuff he did in Beat It.
      but, if THAT's what u like about Michael then...by all means.
      but to say Bad was his PEAK...lol
      don't be ridiculous.
      even the album sales went dipping way low compared to Thriller. it was downhill from Bad on.

    • @marymoore5776
      @marymoore5776 Год назад +1

      ​@@isuriadireja91MJ had alot of great music afterThriller, my opinion.

    • @aaronolson5434
      @aaronolson5434 Год назад

      I will he didnt come to Tacoma in 1988

  • @badtourerasalt
    @badtourerasalt Год назад +9

    Please tell me you have more reports of the concert in this quality, there is new footage from here, that's not in the full concert vhs tape.

    • @eph_loves_80s74
      @eph_loves_80s74 Год назад +3

      The channel is great

    • @damienlomax1946
      @damienlomax1946 Год назад +3

      You would have to contact the studios who have the report

    • @eph_loves_80s74
      @eph_loves_80s74 Год назад +1

      @@damienlomax1946 ABC merged with Disney, NBC and KNBC merged with NBCUniversal and Entertainment Tonight merged with CBS too

  • @missbee1451
    @missbee1451 Год назад +14

    😂 Ole Jackie lying at 18:24 about his " knee surgery/tumor, fenur bone accident". Having trouble even keeping his story straight😂 # ALLEGEDLY #PAULA 🚗☕️

    • @brandyeduncan7285
      @brandyeduncan7285 Год назад +3

      Just stuttering through 😂😂😂😂

    • @cruzpaez8047
      @cruzpaez8047 Год назад +3

      Stuttering b/c he was LYING. Jackie was a dogg in the "love" dept. Won't say what really went down.. but SHE was not having any of Jackie's B.S. & probsbly his wife wasn't either.😮😮😮 Just one of the pitholes #MichaelJackson 👑 always tried to avoid. Family Drama. #RIH King.
      ✌🏾💜

  • @donaldfrierson743
    @donaldfrierson743 Год назад +2

    I saw the Victory Tour in Cleveland. When you look at tours today such as Beyonce and ticket prices, not much has changed and it has gotten worse. A ticket to a victory tour was thirty dollars in 1984-that is worth 87.00 in today's money. Still a steal at today's concert prices.

  • @terranceharris4686
    @terranceharris4686 Год назад +9

    The problem back then was you had to pay $120 up front for four tickets and you had no control over where you sat or if you were going even get seats at all. You went into some kinda lottery. That was some Don King shit. But after the first two stops, MJ put an end to it.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад

      21st Trash Millenium Ticketslave is worse...
      I'm not saying this ticketing by Don King was in any way decent but I would trade in a hot second by "Today' s Standards"!
      And there is no Megarstar near in sight speaking out against. Also noone is touring for free like Michael did 4 times giving his ENTIRE Tour income to Charity.
      He rather had given to his siblings for a safe protected environment instead greedy foreigners. Most ppl suck you can hear it in ANY Family. His siblings didn't want him tormented by media, in jail or dead unlike the Jew Vultures he rather turned to. And kids are never of spiritual companion. He rather had sticked to animals. Couldn't understand even when I was a kid. Most kids suck ass. Lying greedy mobbing monsters.

  • @raymondclarke9321
    @raymondclarke9321 Год назад +3

    Saw it at Franklin field in Philadelphia. Didn't come close to the triumph tour in Philly in 1981

  • @cdelorenzo6773
    @cdelorenzo6773 Год назад +6

    I saw it.... fabulous. Still have my program & Victory Tour hat😂

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Год назад +5

    Its crazy that $30 for a ticket was controversial back then, nowadays that's cheap😂😂😂 smh

  • @hutch1197
    @hutch1197 Год назад +26

    All the problems this tour had were self-inflicted by Joseph Jackson and Don King, and their greed. Michael opposed the ticket system, and was furious with his father and brothers for how the fans were treated. The tour started losing money because there so many greedy people taking a piece of the pie. The brothers wouldn't even show up to the stadiums in the same car because they were all fighting. The only people stopping the Jacksons from success were the Jacksons themselves. Michael should have toured alone. Most of the songs they performed were his anyway.

  • @grgmj1980
    @grgmj1980 Год назад +7

    Michael was definitely magical

  • @damienlomax1946
    @damienlomax1946 Год назад +16

    Victory tour was ok but but triumph was the best tour out of them all victory bad dangerous and history

    • @Wonderouz
      @Wonderouz Год назад +1

      I really wish I knew why it wasn't the other way around

    • @anthonyrobinson973
      @anthonyrobinson973 Год назад +1

      ​​​@@WonderouzBecause TRIUMPH was by far the best album the Jackson's ever produced..Keep in mind, I'm measuring this against the other Jackson's albums, now, if We measure their other albums against the average artist, there's not much comparison.
      Edit.
      The Jackson's is a group that crosses Generations,and, when someone is in the business that long, whatever generation you fit into, you will always think that was the best. But that just goes to show how **GREAT** they were. You can't speak of the Jackson's without, of course, speaking of Mike for he was the LEAD.

    • @lennixjones
      @lennixjones Год назад

      bad, dangerous and history have nothing to do with the JACKSONS. that's just mikes tour, so you can't really compare them. even so, his worst history tour show is better than anything, respectfully

    • @damienlomax1946
      @damienlomax1946 Год назад

      @@lennixjones I know that more then anyone I am shock you know that also but Michael always inspired and base his solo tours on triumph tour

    • @FroMarty
      @FroMarty Год назад

      @@lennixjonesthe lip lynchig outnumbered the amount of singing by History unfortunately

  • @soulcontrolwo6088
    @soulcontrolwo6088 Год назад +8

    If 84 Mike was touring now those tickets would be 1k or more

  • @badtourerasalt
    @badtourerasalt Год назад +10

    Turns out there is a higher quality version of this I guess.

    • @wilmmerwest3876
      @wilmmerwest3876 Год назад +1

      Which I have been saying but nobody listen to me😢

    • @badtourerasalt
      @badtourerasalt Год назад +2

      @@wilmmerwest3876 but this still ain't the best version, pretty sure Victorycampaign84 has a ai upscaled colorful version with the audio in HQ

    • @Criscilla241
      @Criscilla241 Год назад +1

      Victory Tour stop in Toronto is here on RUclips

    • @wilmmerwest3876
      @wilmmerwest3876 Год назад

      @@Criscilla241 😂😂😂please go away

    • @Phil-zd8tn
      @Phil-zd8tn 3 месяца назад

      Huh?

  • @BDN469
    @BDN469 Год назад +9

    When Joe Jackson and Don King are planning a tour you knew this would be a shit show:
    1. Michael Jackson hair caught fire (Pepsi Commercial)
    2. Ticket Scandal
    3. Expecting Free Stadiums
    4. Jackie Jackson knee injury (wife ran him over with car after he was caught cheating)
    5. Tour expenses way too high
    6. New England Patriots Owner (Tour Promoter) had to sell his team because he lost so much money from this tour
    7. We were robbed of having a thriller tour
    8. This tour tore apart the Jackson family (brothers never shared a stage again until 2001)

    • @ChedricBigby
      @ChedricBigby 3 месяца назад

      Damn I never looked at it like that 😮

  • @williambrown4357
    @williambrown4357 Год назад +18

    😂😮wow. I remember staying up late watching this. I paid no attention to the subject matter. I just wanted to see them perform live. 😊

  • @joshthetalentedone22
    @joshthetalentedone22 Год назад +7

    4:57 what did he say??

    • @ladyruler9585
      @ladyruler9585 Год назад +1

      Lol I believe he said "I think it was a rip off".

    • @ontopram
      @ontopram Год назад

      lol caught me at first too

    • @ecto1996
      @ecto1996 Год назад

      I had to listen to that a few times…😂

  • @nickpmusic
    @nickpmusic Год назад +5

    Who just fast forward for the concert bits

    • @Yobbie72
      @Yobbie72 Год назад +3

      not me; I was interested in the discussion. But I'm smart.

    • @_kim123
      @_kim123 Год назад

      After a little I bit I fast forwarded too. I don’t want to hear Teds interview. He was salty and being slick in way he didn’t have too.

  • @msmagic1568
    @msmagic1568 10 месяцев назад +4

    18:07-18:42 he was trying to find the right words😂. His ex wife actually ran him down with the car after catching him with Paula Abdul.

  • @CBrown9758
    @CBrown9758 Год назад +14

    Jermaine's forever golden voice!❤️🫶💯🔥💫💫💫💫💫💫👑👑👑👑👑👑🥂🍾They are royal talents so they must move royally.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Год назад +2

      Heck, in the U.K., they give their music stars Knighthood. They knighted Mick Jagger and Paul McCarthy. You would never see that sort of recognition for a black music superstar in the U.S.

  • @likemussolini4848
    @likemussolini4848 Год назад +6

    They’d 💩 themselves looking at todays ticket prices 😂😂😂

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Год назад +1

    I wish the tour would've gotten properly released on DVD or digitally, they recorded the shows but never released them for people to buy

  • @blimy01maynard30
    @blimy01maynard30 Год назад +4

    There wasn't an Off the Wall tour but there were Destiny and Triumph tours. I think we understate how Mike never toured without his brothers. Probably should have been straight up with telling them this was his last tour with them.
    But I don't blame him for getting away from his dad. Joe was making horrible decisions. Teaming with Don King should greed and selfishness especially since those were Joe's boys.

  • @supachaloopa3611
    @supachaloopa3611 Год назад +10

    The VICTORY album was actually pieced together by many seperate recordings, by different brothers who couldn't even put their squabbling aside to get in the studio at the same time. It was a disaster from the beginning. The VICTORY TOUR was only made because Michael didn't want to support his brothers financially for the rest of their lives. After that mess, Michael distanced himself from any meetings or plans to do another album with his siblings. Imagine being the Golden Goose in that family.

    • @senshiserenity7088
      @senshiserenity7088 2 месяца назад +1

      He should have stayed with his brothers because that's where he shine best for me personally.
      Michael was special in his own right but it was something about him coming together with his brothers as well people like to sit there and clown his brothers like they don't have talent when all of them putting their talents together is just pure magic that's why they were able to tear the stage of the way they did.

    • @senshiserenity7088
      @senshiserenity7088 2 месяца назад

      When all of them came together, you just didn't see Michael. You seen all of them as a working unit.
      Am isolating himself from his family just to end up around bigger snakes that didn't give a shit about him was far worse because it led to his demise. And I don't believe he killed himself with an overdose Michael Jackson was murdered.
      He even told his sister that he knew that they were going to kill him eventually.

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 14 дней назад +1

      If Michael had sticked to his family instead of Jew Industry Moguls Vultures he very much would have been alive today.
      In eqch family there is twist and tension. Imagine all the money he gave away to Charity (3 Tours he toured for free - 300 million) and was so hard on his Brothers. They worked just as much as him as kids and had the same fate by Joe. Couldn't be school smarts with a college career due to being music professionals as kids! ALL had no childhood and major violence - not just Michael.
      If any of your family would win the lottery jackpot wouldn't you ask for financial aid? You would be cool your sibling gave 75% to charity but 1% to the nearest blood is cold shoulder.
      Other ppl suck as well. Esp the so-called poor sitting on their ass instead having worked their butt off. A Jacksons Show in their 70ies past years without Michael is still 99% better than any artificial media-hyped Trash Millenial Z-elebrity: Shitney Spears, Tschassdin Weeener, Lady Kacka, Taylor Shit n 'em!

    • @supachaloopa3611
      @supachaloopa3611 14 дней назад

      @@BEEyonced Relax and have some Skittles.....

    • @BEEyonced
      @BEEyonced 10 дней назад

      @@supachaloopa3611 Stick to your own! Bringing up hate on the Fam and worshipping his Jew Handlers media-cruxifying him and ultimate killing him! At least they deserve the billions in your eyes. Yeah and go shop everything Branca you 2009 Fan!

  • @charlesgreen7469
    @charlesgreen7469 Год назад +2

    I saw the Victory Tour in Jacksonville Florida in 1984

  • @alukuhito
    @alukuhito Год назад +5

    This tour was possibly the most hyped thing I can remember in my life. I'm sure it was really good, but they were making this out to be the biggest event ever.

    • @jody8526937
      @jody8526937 Год назад

      Yes.. I remember the overwhelming hype. This news piece was part of it all. This was the first tour that really put ticket prices out of the reach of paper route money for teenagers. People complained vehemently about price gouging to see a pop act. It was unheard of at the time. The tour was playing to half empty stadiums by the end. And in retrospect it’s basically forgotten and not the tour all future acts would be measured against.t

  • @fixitchic
    @fixitchic Год назад +4

    Wow $30 was expensive in 1984. Seems like pennies since tickets now cost hundreds or more than $1,000.

  • @SupremeNerd
    @SupremeNerd Год назад +5

    They shouldn't have never got Don King involved in this tour

  • @MrBoswel1
    @MrBoswel1 Год назад +5

    Michael Jackson didn’t wanna tour with his bros

  • @sandramunoz425
    @sandramunoz425 10 месяцев назад +3

    AWESOME VIDEO 📹 MR JACKIE JACKSON AND HANDSOME MAN 👨 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @mgardner70
    @mgardner70 Год назад +12

    I saw the KC tour as a kid. It was amazing. Yes. I lived through the not so subtle racism.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Год назад +3

      Not so subtle is an understatement. They invited the former grand marshall of the KKK to speak at my school, CSUN, in 1987-88. I was there, attending the school. I remember it well. Rodney King beating in 1991. Those were horrible times for black people. Today we still have things like the black guy killed while jogging and the George Floyd situation. Being black in America...today and yesterday. And, if we say anything about it, we are still wrong, according to them. We have "Victim Mentality" according to them for even speaking on it. So, they put the guilt of their racial violence on us. The guilt should be on them, not us.

    • @africkinamerican
      @africkinamerican Год назад

      " Horrible times for black people"? That's a huge, sweeping generalization. Many black people were living good lives , enjoying upward mobility and not really even thinking about racism.
      Absolutely we had economic inequality and recessions and chronic unemployment for some. The ghetto had lots of problems. The drugs, the violence , the gangs, et cetera. I do believe this country's policies on drugs have been evil and hypocritical. But most of us, even then, did not live in the ghettos , were not involved in the drug economy or other illegal activity, and our lives were not this hellish existence -- just normal lives with normal problems , like our neighbors of all races.
      The Rodney King beating was horrible, but was big news because it was not an everyday thing.
      Today, you could almost count all the truly innocent (unarmed/not resisting) black people who are killed by police on two hands. While black on black killings is like the V ietnam War... no comparison. Focusing forever on racism blinds us to the problems we have to fix ourselves.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Год назад

      @africkinamerican You've been drinking too much of their Kool-Aid. If this country is so fair, why have we only had one black president and one black VP in the whole 400 plus year existence of this country? I also wouldn't say many, but a few. We have a few athletes, actors and musicians, but how about scholarly? We have proven that we are a talented people. See, I know why we had to create HBCU's. Without them, Kamala Harris wouldn't have her degree and likely wouldn't be VP. Yes, we deserve equal footing, and we've never received it. How do you make people work for free for over 250 years and never, ever compensate them? I won't even go into all the other atrocities inflicted on black people, even until today. I won't pretend like everything is rosy like some people. To do so, is a slap in the face of our struggle. See, I remember black Wallstreet and what we are capable of as a people, and I see the ghettos we have been thrown into and mocked for, while they burned down our models of success. Sure, there may be a few who escape injustice, but it isn't the norm. To pretend otherwise is a slap in the face to all the George Floyd's, Martin Luther King's, and Emmet Till's, who gave their lives for racial injustice. Don't be an Uncle Tom. Know thy history. Study it. "Sound Of The Police" is a good place to start. Our oppression is legendary, but no, it won't stop our greatness, just because we are dark skinned. No, that is what fueled our greatness, even while it was fueling the hate against us. We shall overcome.

  • @shawnhunter7541
    @shawnhunter7541 Год назад +4

    And 30 dollars was expensive in 1984 when the average ticket was 6.50 and 7.50 the day of.

  • @mitchellbanks34
    @mitchellbanks34 6 месяцев назад +2

    You can just tell that The Jacksons were not that well equipped for dealing with tough interviewers. Not very articulate at all. When they weren’t talking about how “they do it for their fans”, and how they “had been performing for so many years that they feel most comfortable on stage” they didn’t know how to deal with difficult questions. It also proved that the brothers were being greedy. How does someone who is wealthy go on national television and say that $120 is not a lot of money? Terrible PR answer. It’s the reason Michael gave up all his earnings for that tour. It was damage control so he wouldn’t look like this greedy money grubber. With him being the frontman of The Jacksons, he was taking most of the heat.

  • @jamesway
    @jamesway Год назад +2

    This critic at the end is full of it. Standard concert indeed. You can look back and see the media sharpening the knives for his coming fall.

  • @jenjay0167
    @jenjay0167 Год назад +2

    I’m guessing the “critic” lost his job after saying the concert wasn’t worth the price. 😂😂

  • @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746
    @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746 Год назад +1

    The concert was amazing me and some of our classmates slept outside so we can get our tickets outside the stadium

  • @jody8526937
    @jody8526937 Год назад +3

    I would rather see The Jackson’s than a solo Michael show. There and is something special about a family act. Michael is debatable about the greatest performer however the Jackson are undoubtedly the greatest family act of all time.

    • @JGMP2010
      @JGMP2010 6 месяцев назад +4

      Bullshit. Nothing to debate. They called him the king for a reason.

  • @Anthony-in4ss
    @Anthony-in4ss 6 месяцев назад +1

    They did this without social media 🤯

  • @NYVoice
    @NYVoice Год назад +1

    Ticket sale controversy. Oh gee, where did we hear this recently?

  • @tur74d56
    @tur74d56 Год назад +9

    To bad it never came to the UK , Even Michael said this

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Год назад +2

      Yeah, but Michael went all over the world with his Bad tour, and his History tour.

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc Год назад +2

    When people watched the show with their eyes instead of through the screen of their phones.

  • @reneishabrooks5187
    @reneishabrooks5187 Год назад +3

    Boy is this an example of the mania and craziness from the media that they and Michael were subject too.

  • @lamontbradford4630
    @lamontbradford4630 Год назад +7

    Jackie wasn’t there because his wife ran over him when she caught him at the drive in messing around with Paula Abdul.

  • @kathythompson8642
    @kathythompson8642 Год назад +2

    I seen the Jackson's in Philadelphia. The Spectrum. With all the controversy Mike donated all his earnings from victory to charity

  • @tiffanylewis7633
    @tiffanylewis7633 Год назад +2

    Michael didnt want too di the tour anyway ..his mother talked him into doing this tour ..because of his mother he decided too do it

  • @Danny-sd5vm
    @Danny-sd5vm 11 месяцев назад +2

    The mafia was still extremely strong in the music and concert industry in the early 80's. You better believe they all got their piece of the pie.

  • @ARealPersonNotABot
    @ARealPersonNotABot Год назад

    Thank you so much for this

  • @kayepointer1536
    @kayepointer1536 3 дня назад +1

    00:29 ....wow😮

  • @seanahmed9079
    @seanahmed9079 Год назад +2

    This was the start of Michael Jackson's love story with "controversy"!!

  • @davidjefferson69
    @davidjefferson69 Год назад +3

    I have and still feel bad for michael even today I never know all this was going on back then michael at the height of his music career was very much an anomaly this much popularity was not supposed to happy for a single performer he was just one person and he did not control the cost of tickets plus millions of ppl just wanted to see him then there was the rumors about his brothers and there alleged jealousy and money issues I thought he handled all this like a pro I'm a mj fine for life and I never believed the child cases that were charged against him this just shows you how humanity will still turn against you as soon as its convenient so sad

  • @gregman05
    @gregman05 Год назад +1

    the more things change with ticket sales, the more they unfortunately stay the same

  • @anthonylarthur7477
    @anthonylarthur7477 5 месяцев назад +1

    For some reason looking at Jackie's interview with Ted, kinda' tells me that he's not an honest down to earth person but, that's just me.❤

  • @oscarfairley6600
    @oscarfairley6600 Год назад +2

    It was a mess , remember it well. Don't know how my family manage to get tickets, but we did.

    • @christaylor7916
      @christaylor7916 Год назад

      How was it a mess? I'm not disagreeing or anything. I'm just interested in your opinion

    • @oscarfairley6600
      @oscarfairley6600 Год назад +2

      @christaylor7916 at first it was a lottery system, set up by Don King. Where you had to buy four tickets at $140. No choice of seating, or even a guarantee that you will get tickets. Your money would be refunded to you. That was hated by almost everyone. The media went nuts. Don King was fired , and the Jacksons drop that plan. It was so dislike Michael took a beating in the press. And this was months before the start of the tour. Michael had to have a press conference in which he announced that he going to donate his tour money to charity, all of it. Across the country different cities was trying make money off the tour in shady ways. This was the concert tour that changed how tours on done since.

  • @Wonderouz
    @Wonderouz Год назад +5

    1:23 I've never seen mj onstage while jermaine is performing.... at least not that early (of course I mean on this tour only)

    • @5star64
      @5star64 Год назад +4

      So you never watched the Jackson 5 perform?

    • @Criscilla241
      @Criscilla241 Год назад +1

      MJ was waiting for his part “Tell Me I’m Not Dreaming” to go onstage in that clip

    • @Wonderouz
      @Wonderouz Год назад +1

      ​@@5star64smh on the victory tour🙄duh!

  • @rkundrat5475
    @rkundrat5475 3 месяца назад +1

    My parents purchased tickets from a scalper to take me to the concert at Madison Square Garden