Last year we built a 26lb Stumpy in the attempt to make a bike just like the new Epic Evo. ( with out knowing it was coming out) The two bikes are different enough with travel and handling characteristics to say, if you’re riding chunky rocky trails go with the Stumpy, smoother, tighter but still aggressive trails go with the new Epic Evo. ruclips.net/user/shortstQ8NRK82gQs?si=KUIXWJGIf1EZjFZt
@@blackandtan.0075faster with both pro models being $2k different, still feel the same? Would you consider the stumpy overbiked for chill trails? I went from the epic evo 7 to stumpy evo. Stumpy evo is def a lot of bike but pedals well. I have dreams of hitting blue mountain lol but haven’t made it. Epic evo 8 looks good but no expert model?! Hard to justify 8500 even after selling the stumpy for like 4-5k max (I added transmission). Just hard to figure it all out to have ONE perfect bike for a bit of everything.
1) a 3mm drop in BB height is meaningless re: center of gravity and its affect on handling 2) lowering the BB doesn't change the fork rake (aka offset). It changes the head tube angle by ~.5 of a degree. The fork is the fork, the rake (offset) of the fork doesn't change.
Epic 8 is in my opinion a down country discipline and the 8 EVO is a trail bike. Not what I was expecting from the Epic 8, does not pedal like an Epic that I’m accustomed to and although flight attendant is next level tech my WC is lighter and pedals much more efficient.
@@blackandtan.0075faster The Hydra freehub relies on axle flex for pawl engagement. An absolutely flawed concept that leads to axle failures and freehub malfunction. The 1/1 design is superior to the Hydra but I have never seen so many hub shell failures from one brand as I9 - they crack at the crease under the spoke flange.
❤❤❤ Love my Camber!!! Love this more😊
What a beast of a bike. Down-country has never looked this capable. I'm gonna have to drop by and see this in person👀
Do it soon it won’t last
The future is here. one of my favorite episodes brother
That bike looks sweet
Yeah they just came up with chisel fa, which is really camberlike
Ok so how different is it to the current stumpy? Which is the best all arounder at this point?
Last year we built a 26lb Stumpy in the attempt to make a bike just like the new Epic Evo. ( with out knowing it was coming out) The two bikes are different enough with travel and handling characteristics to say, if you’re riding chunky rocky trails go with the Stumpy, smoother, tighter but still aggressive trails go with the new Epic Evo.
ruclips.net/user/shortstQ8NRK82gQs?si=KUIXWJGIf1EZjFZt
@@blackandtan.0075faster with both pro models being $2k different, still feel the same? Would you consider the stumpy overbiked for chill trails?
I went from the epic evo 7 to stumpy evo. Stumpy evo is def a lot of bike but pedals well. I have dreams of hitting blue mountain lol but haven’t made it. Epic evo 8 looks good but no expert model?! Hard to justify 8500 even after selling the stumpy for like 4-5k max (I added transmission).
Just hard to figure it all out to have ONE perfect bike for a bit of everything.
1) a 3mm drop in BB height is meaningless re: center of gravity and its affect on handling 2) lowering the BB doesn't change the fork rake (aka offset). It changes the head tube angle by ~.5 of a degree. The fork is the fork, the rake (offset) of the fork doesn't change.
You are 100% correct it doesn’t change the rake it is the headset angle. 👍
Nice bike ya make this fun
Epic 8 is in my opinion a down country discipline and the 8 EVO is a trail bike. Not what I was expecting from the Epic 8, does not pedal like an Epic that I’m accustomed to and although flight attendant is next level tech my WC is lighter and pedals much more efficient.
So true where the Flight Attendant comes in, is slightly longer travel bikes and making them a more stable pedal platform
To me industry nine 1/1 hubs are the best sounding on the market They have the right amount of sound 👍
They do sound good
They’re junk.
@@gweflj tell us why you think they’re junk?
@@blackandtan.0075faster maybe you had a lamon. Had them for 2 years been great so far
@@blackandtan.0075faster The Hydra freehub relies on axle flex for pawl engagement. An absolutely flawed concept that leads to axle failures and freehub malfunction. The 1/1 design is superior to the Hydra but I have never seen so many hub shell failures from one brand as I9 - they crack at the crease under the spoke flange.
im not a big fan of specialized bikes but this one is nice i like it a lot but the price tag is a bit high ill stick with my canyon spectral
Try to get out on one if you have a shop that near you and let us know what you think compared to the Canyon.
@@blackandtan.0075faster I’m going to do that