Can Pain Be Educational
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He's too far gone, he's torturing himself for magic cards now
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Pain is the greatest teacher. Not in the "hurting someone that isnt doing what you want" but in the "Ouch! Maybe I shouldnt touch the Hot Stove again" type.
The annoying part are the "I was beat as a child so you need to be beaten to be as great as me" kind of troglodytes
yeah once you stick the fork in the wall socket once you never do it again
Yes natural consequence! If my daughter doesn’t want to sleep at 7pm she’s free to do so but we’re still getting up at 7am and she’ll have to deal with the sleepiness because of her own choice
Only works if whatever is receiving it is smart enough to make the connection
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Men in the 1960s when their dinner is cold:
Don't translate.……
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति,
अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य
सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु...……………
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“I’m not a masochist, I swear.”
- Markiplier
Who?
@@infinitecatto The RUclipsr
@@UnreliableArsonist He just wants to see if he can take it,Hes NOT a masochist
@@wrenchworms3381Definitely not
It’s about POWER
Teachers in the 1950s be like:
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I think it can be educational if the person consents, because then they don't feel like control has been completely taken away from them - they chose to subject themselves to pain in order to learn. Otherwise, it's a super mixed bag.
Negative reinforcement has a place, but PHYSICAL negative reinforcement is far more difficult to nail.
"they chose to subject themselves to pain"
This can backfire since you easily get "addicted" to the pain and the rush u get from adrenaline, dopamine etc.
and thus may start with self-harm. Which isn't great, I had an easier time quitting smoking than I did quitting self-harm.
EDIT: My point with the comment is to warn the general audience about the risks of inflicting pain on yourself intentionally. It's not necessarily related to what they do in the video.
@@Mindboggles aye, all things in moderation
@@Mindbogglescongrats on quitting my guy
Technically this would be positive punishment, rather than negative reinforcement, since negative reinforcement is when you remove an unpleasant effect to reward a behavior. Positive punishment is when you add an unpleasant effect to punish a behavior.
0:30 Damn Terrence Howards always be catching strays on this channel 💀
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or the "Costco Guys"
How is there 7 bot comments smh
Fr he needs to listen to the last episode he was on
Terrence Howard is what I’d imagine id end up like if I took mushrooms for the first time while watching good will hunting.
I have a friend with asian heritage, he grew up in England but was very much raised how his parents learned in their birth country.
I'm a very docile person, I have never thrown a punch in 24 years, I am very patient and very rarely if ever get angry, I have never been physically hurt by any authority figure or anything, I was taught purely verbally, treat others how you want to be treated sort of things. I'm not religious but was always just taught to be nice.
My friend was very much the opposite, he grew up getting the belt, hit with slippers, wooden spoon, spanked ect.
He was very confused when he met me in college and we exchanged stories of our upbringing, he said how are you so calm and well behaved and he actually couldn't believe that I had never been beat as a punishment. he literally didn't think it was possible to raise someone to be non violent in any other way.
And I was very much the opposite mindset, I didn't fully understand how his upbringing worked, in my opinion it isn't teaching you to be nice because you actually want to be nice, it's teaching you to be nice because you're afraid of getting punished.
Was a very interesting conversation and were very good friends now but it's very interesting seeing two wildly different approaches to raising someone.
Using pain as a punishment also teaches children that its okay to hurt someone if they dont do exactly what they want. Its not always like that. But thats how i see it. When kids get upset or angry theyll hit you its because their punishment for acting up is usually being hit. You can raise kids properly without violence. I was not, i think it instils resentment and hatred in people.
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@Blue-qr4fi worst case scenario: your actually serious and if so should be arrested for pedophilia
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Me and my magic playgroup use a "take-backsies" card that you can take when you make a mistake and then undo it, but you cant use it again until someone else takes it. We use the card Jesters Cap and have also started using the card Dingus Egg. really helps with slight mistakes but cant be abused
I've seen people use that just in general when playing against a new player. They get unlimited use of it while they learn everything and then over time they can use it less and less since they know the game better.
I never learned to play but watched friends play a ton as well as the same rules being applied to other games. No one ever enjoyed winning when the other person clearly didn't understand everything anyway. Plus it is way more satisfying to win against them once they know what they're doing anyway
This video is an incredible resource dor teaching honestly. It seriously shows so many important elements of the teacher student relationship.
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I’ve been playing magic for like 6 or 7 years and it makes me so happy to see Charlie getting more into the game. I’d love to see more gameplay on a regular.
If nothing else, having you rewatch the video can also be helping you learn the game more. I'm really happy to see you showing interest in learning the complicated rules of MTG.
Makes me think about that Russian saying; "The same water that hardens the egg, will soften the potato"
Whenever I've seen it around, people say they're using it to mean "Not everyone responds the same way to a specific teaching method", and I HARD agree.
Tho in general, purposely putting yourself or others through pain isn't exactly a good teaching method for anyone. Theres a lot of stuff your body does under that stress, and it causes a lot of permanent damage over time. Stuff like excessive amounts of adrenaline and cortisol damaging muscle around your body (like your heart, which doesn't heal very well). You can also get addicted to the dopamine hit your brain gets every time you feel physical pain, which is obviously a massive problem cause it will just make you hurt yourself more. Then theres the aspect of having a lot more injuries taking more vitamin C than usual to stay scared over properly, risk of infection, risk of permanent nerve damage. Then theres the psychological pain aspect, which I don't even want to get into right now because I hate typing on iphone. Just gonna say that its still not a good thing :')
Pain causes dopamine release?
When I was in highschool I had a teacher who thought yelling at us, slamming his hands down on his desk when we answered a question wrong, calling us names, singling us out for verbal humiliation etc was a great way to "motivate" us to do better. I completely shut down. I gave that class nothing. Refused to answer questions, Put bare minimum effort into my assignments. Cut class as much as possible. It wasn't a defiance thing, I just couldn't stand being in the same room with him. I was a straight A student, that was the only class I ever got a C in.
I remember one time he used the wrong answer key to grade our tests so the entire class "failed" his test. He screamed at us so bad. Called us all stupid and losers, ignoring the fact that if the whole class had actually failed the test then that said more about him as a teacher than it did about us. He eventually realized the answer key error and re-graded our tests. He never apologized.
What absolutely blew my mind is that more than a few of the students seemed to LOVE it, like they loved his abuse, they vied for his attention, worked extra hard on their assignments, they wanted his approval soooo bad. They even got him a cake at the end of the school year. I kind of hated them for it.
Those poor children probably don’t get any attention in their own home or the only attention they get is abusive which could be why they like that teacher, overall thats really sad and the other people in that school should have done something
I live in russia and I never have heard that saying
@@Hog_enjoyer I mean, living in Russia does not automatically make you aware of all the russian sayings, but my experience is still similar to yours, as this was the first time I ever saw the phrase.
“Pain is the best teacher” - Bowser
“It’s all in the hips” Helen Keller, probably
It worked for Waluigi & Wario in tennis.
No, fuck the pain
@@VorpalSnickerSnack In Mario Power Tennis on the GameCube.
"Ignorance is bliss" i'll never forget that saying.
ive never found a moment where it doesnt apply. I live by it
Have you not heard it since now?
Pain is definitely educational. 1 min and 45 secs into this video I found a wasp in my bed. And by “I found a wasp in my bed.” I mean a wasp stung me while I was laying in bed. I learned that I need to seal my window around the AC unit better, I learned that I know more interesting ways to cuss than I used to, I learned that I can still vault over a couch when motivated to get a fly swatter, I learned that a wasp sting feels exactly like jamming a sewing needle into your hand and wiggling it around. Then after the wasp was no more I learned that it was a paper wasp and they are less aggressive then yellow jackets only when you don’t accidentally grab them. The last things I learned before coming and posting this completely unnecessary comment is that tomorrow I will be spraying around my window with peppermint and replacing my current curtains with red ones. In short pain is educational! Look at all that sparkly new knowledge I have now! 😂 🐝 🤕 😣
Does peppermint deter wasps?
@@a.n.9800 Yes it deters most insects and small rodents. 🥰 I use it because it’s not detrimental to my cat or pups! Plus with it being around my AC unit I didn’t want to spray something poisonous round there. I haven’t had another wasp intrusion since! So yay peppermint!
Saw the title and thought this was a direct shot at Houston Jones 😂
lmaooo houston jones is the goat 🤣
Pain is very educational, I learned that a belt means “no”
@@AUTTP__Manelzin-y1l i love you AUTTPs
Don't translate.……
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति,
अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य
सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु...……………
"Fire hot, fire bad."
Do you know what else is a number? 911
When dad begins to roll that belt, you begin to contemplate how you get there.
Aba therapy (for autistic children) sometimes used an electric shock ( only very recently mostly banned) designed to hurt worse than a tazer. They used it every time they did something "wrong," like rocking back and forth. In a few places, it technically still isn't illegal and could still be in use in america in these specific areas.
It is really weird and horrible that something like this has been allowed at all during recent times.
As someone who is autistic that sounds horrific.
No one should do that I hate schools enough but for them to do that bull to someone who can't control it now I'm over the edge
As someone with autism and who has worked with children with autism that is literally the WORST possible way to raise/teach an autistic child. I’ve seen similar (though obviously not as extreme) methods used and it just makes them more anxious and worsens the problem
Reminds me of where my lunatic counselors pinned 3rd grade me to the floor and wouldn't let me go unless I "calmed down" luckily I was smart enough to fake and bolt, my mom was livid, if my dad was there he probably would've sued the company
@@JosephJorgenson-cr6ntthank God for spectrum academy, a school that ACTUALLY understands how to handle autistic people, they focus on building self control and not acting on certain feelings, instead of trying to stop the feelings, took me from a child who got violent when confronted, to a teenager who could destroy anyone in a debate without loosing control or even breaking composure. The goal was to accept and control the autism, you'll have to live with it, but it won't stop you, the idea of using shocks to fight autism is disgusting and completely ineffective, as a lot of people with lower functioning or severe autism don't really develop habits like normal people, they often have to focus on every aspect of the situation, so all the shocks would do is produce paranoia
I love long, nice and warm videos from Charlie
@Blue-qr4fi WHAT EXCUSE ME!!!!!!?????????
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@@thefalsegod0 lmao true
Not misplays, MISINPUTS!
"There are two types of pain. Pain that hurts, and pain that hoits weally weally badwy" -Denzel Washington
Taking a page out of the Houston Jones playbook. Love to see it.
Some data seems to be leaking out of my body
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Houston Jones is the GOAT!
I've been in chronic pain since 2012 with Axial Spondyloarthritis and I've found myself in that time. I'm sore but I'm happier now than I've ever been
That is cool , how old were you when you got that
Where were you? I can't find my body either.
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@@theunkownguy5574 had it for years before that but pain was just sporadic. 26 in 2012
Halo everyone
3:13 best part of this video
I'd be fucking dead if I were to play while wearing a shock collar.
“Suffering doesn’t make you a better person; suffering just makes you suffer”
-Shaun, analysis of Maus
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I am fully against any form of abuse, but in some cases it can make you a "better" person in that you're able to recognize abuse of others even when they never directly say anything about it. You're able to recognize the red flags in their thought processes because you've been through the same stuff and then you can intervene and let them know sooner what is going on. Knowing about abuse, even if you can't leave it asap, does a lot to help minimize the damage it can do. Thus making you a "better" person in that you can more easily help others.
I still don't think anyone should have to go through it at all and if I could stop it all I would.
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suffering def makes a body mature, thats how humans evolved to this
@@ap-rw3mj
Do you want to go source for source? Because plenty of people have studied the effect of abuse on children, and the effect DOES NOT make the body mature
I definitely want to encourage more content like this, at least on Skill Check. It doesn't need to replace anything else, but this is just so much fun to watch, especially with the consequences. It's entertaining, engaging, and gives me that vicarious fix for when I can't play my own games.
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When the chorus kicks in goose bumps. This makes me want to dance lol
at 8:35, you can definitely respond to the ETB on the stack.
Everything goes on the stack, and if it's on the stack, you get to respond to it once priority goes around the table
I’ve had excruciating chronic pain for the past 20 years. I hope I learn my lesson soon.
“It’s the fear.” 😂
This must mean masochists are the smartest people in the world 🤔
yes we are
@Pogbot_AUTTP-c7e Bots are getting smart D:
I mean, masochists are sort of messed up so it doesn't really work with them.
If you enjoy pain it wouldn’t teach you much, the reason you learn from pain is because you remember how bad it is, I suppose remembering enjoying it might work a little in remembering information but learning what not to do wouldn’t work as well if you enjoyed it
Masochists actually love pain, they don't try to learn from it, they would make mistakes on purpose to get it
This is one of the best ways I’ve seen a card game set up being played for a camera. I really like how you guys zoom in on the card and explain it. Let’s get more of this!!
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Most mtg gameplay channels do this lol. The best ATM is Game Knights on CommandZone in terms of production quality.
Its kinda cool that me and charlie learn in the same way, tactility is known to be one of the best ways to retain information for long periods of time even after learning just once. I built a table at a woodworking course 5 years ago, and I still remember every single step perfectly, I have never built a table since
I mean I only had to learn once that my Mom wasn't being unreasonable when she said the stove top is hot when turned on.
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Fire MTG videos man.. been really enjoying watching you go through it, keep it up Charlie
haha I read that as yuou saying to fire the MTG video man. like to fire the judge or something. I was like wtf the judge do XD
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Charlie, FYI- if you want to react to a an ETB or a card at the timing that you guys kept reacting at, the instant has to be a counter. Otherwise, you have to wait until the next phase/action if it’s general removal/interaction. I’m sure you know now (💀💀), but that’s why counters are niceee
Actually insane how charlie lucked out hella
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The pain is why shock collars, choke chains, and pronged collars have been banned in some cities here in Canada for any dog except police dogs which are exempt. Edit: apparently this was overturned. In Quebec they're banned province wide iirc. In British Columbia "Anyone caught using the shock collars are required to pay a maximum fine of $36,411.92 or face six months in prison".
There is a massive difference between a prong collar and a shock collar. A prong collar is uncomfortable if you pull. A shock collar causes straight up pain.
Highly doubt anyone would actually be pressed for $36k, but thats beside the point. Interesting info didn't know that. Edit: It's nice to go against animal cruelty, but the courts are a disappointment
It would be wild if they fined some dude who was wearing a dog shock collar under that law.
@@ferretyluvProng collars can pinch nerves.
@@ferretyluv since when? it LITERALLY can only cause pain to a dog if it has a voltage that should never be on it to begin with...
It can but it’s usually one of the worst. It pretty much always reinforces the worst parts of the lesson.
Not to seem sound sarcastic at all. Thank you, for somehow conveniently bringing this topic up in a situation that I'm currently dealing with. Myself and everyone who genuinely listened to this video is very much appreciated. This really helps, thank you charlie
Those Skill Check mats are sick. I want one.
I don’t think the pain is but rather the fear of it. Whether that is the same or not that is how I view it
I agree, I was physically abused but my youngest brother was verbally abused and we showed similar aggression or outburst.
Pain taught me what pain feels like!
The only threshold for greatness is pain
But the most important and challenging of all…. Is not to share your pain to others
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But telling people of your pain can give people a heads up to not experience avoidable pain
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"Sometimes you must hurt in order to know, fall in order to grow, lose in order to gain because life's greatest lessons are learned through pain." - Pain
My new biggest dream is to play a game of commander with these guys 😂
Lets give charlie a controlled shock 💀
I like watching you guys play magic but i have no clue how its played . But it is addicting to watch and it is addicting to watch you open cards
You can respond to an ETB effect, it goes on the stack and therefore can be responded to. Around 10:00 or a little before that.
Theres 2 methods that are used regularly for learning something. A reward method or a punishment method. You either reward yourself for doing it right or punish yourself for doing it wrong.
I believe you could also do both at the same time
What if I punish myself for doing it right?
@@_Kuma_ then youre just a masochist
@@_Kuma_ that's called being a studio owned by xbox
My mom used both methods when I was potty trained. Every time I went on the toilet, she gave me one yugioh card (an obsession of mine). Every time I had an accident, she’d take one away. Safe to say I learned incredibly fast
John Kramer be like
You're basically talking about negative reinforcement teaching and studies have repeatedly shown that it is less effective than other methods- so much so that militaries have moved away from it as a method of instilling discipline. A negative *component* can still be a tool in learning but trying to reinforce behaviour with negative consequences is just not as effective as other choices, particularly on certain types of people. It *can* work well for some people who work well under pressure, but it is still likely that another positive method which just pushes them instead would work better
I e watched this over almost 3 weeks and I’m only half way through
@@B.a.k.e.d.b.e.a.n.s. whaaaa
Yes, dealing with hardship and pain causes you to make methods for doing better. An old old friend of mine moved to Bosnia around the same time as me as a child. I had 4 years of nice lessons to learn the local language. Didnt get past hello and 1-10. He was taught in a brutal way. And was fluent in the year. Keegan if you are out there. Hope you are well.
Keegan played sudoku,im sorry bro
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I am learning about this topic in school at the moment. Here is what I have to say about it:
On Pain and Teaching:
You make a strong point regarding the detrimental effects of using pain or extreme stress as a teaching method. Here’s why this approach is problematic:
1. Physiological Damage:
- Stress Hormones: Chronic exposure to high levels of stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol can indeed wreak havoc on the body. These hormones are part of the body's 'fight or flight' response and, while useful in acute situations, can cause long-term damage if they are constantly elevated. This includes negative effects on the cardiovascular system, immune function, and metabolic processes.
- Muscle Damage: Excessive stress can lead to muscle breakdown and impair the body's ability to repair tissues, potentially leading to long-term damage and weakened health. As you mentioned, the heart, being a muscle, is particularly vulnerable, and damage here can have serious consequences.
- Addiction to Pain: The concept of becoming addicted to the dopamine release associated with pain is concerning. This can lead to a destructive cycle of self-harm or other harmful behaviors as one seeks out that biochemical reward, ultimately exacerbating both physical and psychological health issues.
2. Psychological Harm:
- Mental Health: The psychological ramifications of stress and pain as teaching tools are profound. Continuous exposure to such stress can lead to anxiety, depression, and other mental health issues. It can also impair cognitive function and learning ability, contrary to the intended goal of improving performance or understanding.
- Long-Term Trauma: The psychological scars left by harsh teaching methods or life stresses can persist long after the initial experience. This can lead to chronic issues such as PTSD, reduced self-esteem, and a decreased ability to cope with future challenges in a healthy manner.
3. Ineffective Learning:
- Stress and Learning: Research consistently shows that while a small amount of stress can sometimes enhance focus and performance, excessive stress generally hampers learning and memory. The brain is less capable of processing and retaining information under high stress, which counters the purpose of teaching.
- Individual Learning Styles: Everyone has a unique learning style and pace. Effective teaching acknowledges these differences and adapts to meet the needs of each individual. Methods that cause pain or significant stress fail to respect these differences and often do more harm than good.
In sum, while the proverb illustrates the diversity of human response to identical conditions, it also serves as a caution against one-size-fits-all approaches, especially those involving pain or excessive stress. The focus should be on fostering environments that cater to individual needs, promote well-being, and support healthy, sustainable growth and learning. Using harsh or painful methods might yield short-term results for some, but the long-term consequences are rarely worth the risk.
Hope this helps the interested people. (Sorry for the yap sech)
You can respond to an ETB trigger. Idk who said you can't but you absolutely can respond to any trigger. It happens at minute 9:00, also later a Phyrexian Obliterator comes into play, you can absolutely exile that as it enters the battlefield.
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You CAN respond to ETB triggers, but neither of the cards Charlie tried to cast in response to have an ETB ability. A permanent just entering the battlefield can't be reacted to, unless it has a triggered ability when entering the battlefield. So, Charlie tried to respond to the cast of the creature spell itself, which his spells then can't target the creature entering the battlefield yet, because the spell hasn't resolved yet.
I think they just said "ETB" as the "creature is entering the battlefield", not it actually having an ETB ability.
@@broadWayy I mean from what i saw in the vid, charlie responded well on the 9:00 minute mark, because the creature does have an ETB trigger, altho it doesnt Negate the trigger u can still hold priority after that. Then with the Phyrexian Obliterator, you cannot respond to it, but you can still cast an Instant on it, like, when it enter the battlefield, that resolves, then you can cast something to it still.
@@broadWayy I worded it wrong on my first comment to be honest, I tried to say, you CAN cast it after it resolves. Came out wrong in the wording.
@@peacearcher No, because Charlie was playing all of that in response to the Ian Malcolm card, which doesn't have an ETB effect.
making judge calls like a true magic player, love it
No pain no gain
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God damn youre a bad troll. @Blue-qr4fi
The moment I saw the title, I knew what this was about.
when charlie uploads its a good fuckin day
So everyday?
@@kylejackson4801 yes hes the good in the day
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'It didn't feel like a shock, it felt like concentrated fire.."
Charlie pretty much just described what condensedsed energy serguing through your body is and how it feels (mostly).
What is condensed energy?
bro thinks he’s nagato
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I am so sorry for these bot, christopher😔
Don't translate.……
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति,
अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य
सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु...……………
why are the bots saying bad stuff
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Seeing them play commander on the skill check channel with shock collars proves it. Matt was playing proper magic
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Mental pain can be good source of learning, look at carmy at the bear( he pushed him to be his best self) even in whiplash (the drummer was great towards the end)
You do know that in Whiplash the kid was great but at the same time everything else, including himself, was kinda falling apart due to this obsession to be the best. It showed that while it did have some results it also was a genuinely bad process that only hurt him more inside more than it benefited him outside
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I fell asleep during this, dropped my phone off my bed and shattered the screen
CLASS IS IN SESSION
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@@AUTTP_Crikket13-f3leven though you yourself may likely be a bot, i appreciate your service of helping everyone
we’re getting philosophical out here
Feel pain. Accept pain. Contemplate pain. Embrace pain. And know pain
Dark Souls 3 taught me pain can be educational.
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as a person who has never been interested in magic the gathering, watching them play it feels the same as watching finn and jake play card wars
"Is pain educational"
Well yes without pain I will feel nothing but emptiness
Damn bro, u ok?
@totallynotmodsan7627 I'm OK 😢😢😢😢
"I'm not a masochist, I just wanna see if my body can take it"
Blonde boi gives off Furry vibes
Reminds me of Yugioh GX. There is a character named Zane Truesdale who badly lost one game in the pro-leagues and continued to lose and lose until he was a nobody. He ended up going underground dueling which forced him to wear a shock collar to the point where he didn't even feet it anymore.
If this reaches the top comment I will make an attempt to beat Fallout New Vegas with only melee weapons
it's the top comment for me
@@mrxen6401same strangely
I thought this was going to be a deep philosophical discussion video but it’s magic 😭
-st🎉
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Of course, Pain taught Naruto a lot of things
Charlie said he started learning magic recently this year around the same time I did, and I have to say he makes me feel really good about myself sometimes
For about a year, I, at random points in time, would get really bad stabbing pains in my lower abdomen that would last for a pretty long time.
One night it was so bad, I went to the hospital. Turns out, I had pancreatitis.
I'd say I learned a thing or two from that.
I really wish being good at a card game was this easy
for women, well, I use past studies along with probabilistic science and B.B. or before (that girl) to see how reality functions in rules, and then I apply it to (to be continued) as an experiment. When I'm successful, I'll likely see the diagonal path to top left instead of straight up as the tornado wheel spins, so in theory, I am missing something, something in particular a missing equation, ever since the last 2 yesterday hijacks. It's either you guys or me, but I'm cool af with my 5head.
That’s rough buddy
thank you again Charlie for blessing me with another dinnertime banger
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The different types of learning theory is a myth
MTG is definitely a difficult card game. You can respond to the cast of the card with instant spells and Flash, not just after it ETBs
What a shocking development.
Was I the only one who was thinking of Pavlock when Charlie mentioned shocks?
I see Charlie began his Lucas Baker transformation
Hold up, wait a minute @9:18
It's been a fat minute since I've played MtG, but from what I remember, you CAN target stuff that ETB with instant spells on your opponents turn. For example, if an opponent played Goblin Matron, I could Lightning Bolt it immediately before their combat phase, or before they pass turn. Killing the Goblin Matron like that wouldn't prevent it's ETB effect of "Search your Library(Deck) for a Goblin card and put it in your hand", but you still COULD Lightning Bolt it or hit it with an instant spell if you so choose. The only way to prevent ETB effects is to use Counterspells (which used to be called interrupts, but are now just instants; also, I'm using the term 'Counterspells' to include all counterspell cards, not just the 2 blue casting cost OG lol), and those you HAVE to cast in response to your opponent casting their spell.
You CAN respond to ETB triggers, but not to a creature without ETB trigger entering the battlefield. Goblin Matron has an ETB ability, notified by the "When ... enters the battlefield", thus giving other players a chance to respond to that ability.
The creatures Charlie tried to respond to do NOT have an ETB ability, they simply come onto the board without any additional effect, and can only be responded to after another Game Action takes place, such as a triggered ability triggering, the active player activating an activated (non-mana) ability, the active player casting a spell, or moving into a different phase of the turn.
@@broadWayy So what you're saying is I can only cast an instant like Unsummon for example on a creature ONLY if that creatures has an ETB ability. If that creature doesn't have an ETB ability, I have to wait for the next phase of the turn, wait for that player to cast another spell, use a ability of another card, etc. Is that how it works or am I misunderstanding?
@@CoffinSkate that mostly sounds right, though the creature in question doesn't need an ETB itself, as long as a trigger happens when it ETB's you can then cast an instant after priority is passed to you. and like you said if there are no ETB effects when the creature enters you have to wait until the next actionable state occurs (attempt to cast/ using an activated ability/changing phases, etc.)
@@CoffinSkate Yup, that's correct.
There'd also be no reason to unsummon immediately, if it didn't have an ETB trigger, because then nothing happens from it entering. Then you can just wait for your opponent to do something else, which gives you more information of what they want to do in their turn. You can still just unsummon at the end of their turn, and if they didn't do anything else with the creature that just entered, it would've made no difference!
So unintentionally, the game's rules teach you to be a bit more patient with your spells ^^
Houston Jones thinks yes
I once heard that some people even hurt themselves over the tiniest mistakes, and if they repeat that same mistake, they hurt themselves even worse until they get it right.
Cathar's Crusade being Charlie's mvp
Of course pain helps you learn, when I stub my toe I learn a whole lotta new words😅
Pain is always educational in one form or another
What is with all the damn bots recently in Charlie's chat!? Unforgivable!!!
I feel like it can and cannot depending on how useful it is or how useless it is but I don't mean physically though at least.
Just the way that people have been doing before already and that's observing inevitable modern tragedies.
"Can pain be educational?" In my experience, definitely yes. It's truly amazing how effective a teacher pain can be, especially in differentiating right from wrong. After a point, the threat of pain alone made me a very wise and well-behaved individual.
The stack vs chain brain switch over is such a reformat. MTG is much simpler but wowzer is it adjustment