WC3 - Show Cup #64 - [UD] Happy vs TH000 [HU]
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- 🏆 Show Cup #64
Show Cup by 邮递饭 (UDFans)
[UD] Happy vs TH000 [HU]
Cast by: Neo
Date: November 25th, 2022
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TH000: "Guys, can I go now?" Nooo, Show Cup you have to play all 7 games!
Great casting, Neo, thanks for uploading!
“ They didn't bring their winter coats!!! " Instant classic. 😅
Human is back on the menu boys
This could be the most one-sided fight since 1973 when Ali faced an eighty-foot tall mechanical Joe Frazier. My memory isn't what it used to be, but I think the entire Earth was destroyed.
classic XD
Man, Neo is having a blast and that's so infectious to have laughed and learnt, just becuase of the bumblebees :rofl:
Archmage first on ALL maps can't be the answer.. Kinda made me sad seeing TH be so stubborn. MK bolt surrounds early I feel could at least put some threat on the Lich, the AM just seems to walk around as a glorified rifleman with Elementals just being kited.
i've seen(and i wanna say even vs happy) paladin first actually working. i agree though, AM first always can't possibly be the play
I was watching the peasant farming simulator for over an hour.
If you are a human race fan be warned watching the peasant farming simulator might(this video) cause emotional damage.
It did. I just laugh when I see people FE in this mu anymore
Upvote my comment so other mobile users won't be spoiled like I was
What happened?
@@odiltoxtaboyev5130 If you use RUclips app on mobile devices it shows the highest rated or newest comment. In my case it happened to be a spoiler.
Edit: It shows the one comment even if you don't open comments section.
You need no spoilers to easily predict what happened in that match tbh
Amazing idea
Well to be fair , seeing Happy in the title is already a spoiler :p
Finally, someone challenges Happy with HU.
Challenge is a strong word
Doesn't matter... Matchup is a joke and everyone knows that. UD is to strong against Hu. But ya, happy would also win with every race
@@kerimb1353 Show me him beating people with HU consistently. BO7 plz with happy vs laby HU vs UD
I bet we see happy lose finally ;P
@@FackitAllman agree. I just suppose it... I totally agree, that UD is to strong.
@@kerimb1353 If tat was the case we would see others tops choosing UD. But things UD is so sotrong in hands of Happy.
Should humans be buffed? Im curious about your opinions pls Share if you want to.
Human just needs a small boost to their early game so they can survive in literally all match ups at the moment. Their tier 3 though is actually insanely strong easily as good or better than the other races it's just their brittle early game that puts them in a spot that makes getting to tier 3 so unreasonable.
the map pool makes it very easy to stop expansions compared to the old pool. You always know where they will expo and where they can be creeping.
@@MetalRagnar Survive the early game? Human problem is mid game, because rifles are useless vs UD and even if you somehow manage to get to knights, you will be so outleveled by the UD and he'll just make 3-4 banshees to completely neutralize you with antimagic ,which can't even be dispelled, and possession.
@alex hahhahaa nice joke.
Its more about top human players being weak . But as a buff i only suggest buffing orb of fire and making priests heal cast time faster so they become smother , and also since arcane sanctum is their strongest building .
And yes human have the best t3
Its completely unbalanced . Human always have slow army and can be easy out micro with lich slow or unholy aura
Defenitly! Casters and ppls saying about INSANE happy micro xd whats insane to micro with nova slow combined with Uh aura and coil to save stuff against Hu slow units. not to mention Destros and statues magic immune so makes it even harder to kill. So the only thing left is fiends to focus on which can be eaten by lich for mana to deny or get frost shieled and coiled. And we havent even mentioned Banshes against human with the freaking undispellable spellimune thats another joke in the story. And i could say more and more imbalanced sht but ill keep that for later.
Man Game 1 was super interesting, it's just when should TH000 pull back, trying to out micro happy is a crazy choice. It was looking good at first. Maybe he needed a faster tech but with militia creeping its not possible. Man I would love to see more TH that idea was cool.
1:16:42.
There were 15 peasants before the attack.
When Happy left, there were four left, and only one was above 50% hp.
Brutal.
As someone who quit wc3 back in 2010 when UD had a 30% win rate at the professional level, watching Happy in 2023 is so damn cathartic it's unreal lol
Knowing Lich first you would have other heros first tho. Yes
Happy sweeping everyone damn lol not even fun to watch but yet here i am
I watch all his Ud vs HU games, just to confirm I'm right.
90% wr vs human doing same build every game.
Nothing wrong here.
@@FackitAllman maybe human should try using another strategy, as opposed to being peasants farmed due to fexpo every time
NEO is one of the greatest casters of all time
Wow dude, I read this comment In a moment when I don't feel too good. This is awesome and helps me a lot. ♥️
@@Back2Warcraft oh dude it's absolutely why i watch this channel, i bought TFT the day it came out, i haven't seriously played in YEARS, but i watch every single video of yours. it's cathartic
@@Back2Warcraft We love you Neo, don't feel down, you are a cornerstone in this community
epic epic epic
@Back2Warcraft can you change the instant videos that is played while first visiting the channel? Archmage surrounded becoming annoying...
Coil nova allows UD to guarantee kills, unholy aura coil allows UD to guarantee you cant get kills. GG
On the other hand, we have bolt and holy light which basically do the same. The bolt even allows surrounds :) and if you want AOE damage, you have the clap
On the OTHER hand...for bolt holy ligjt to be viable you need to to mk first pala second or vice versa...oh wait...then no brilliance so no mana for sustained fight...meanwhike UD has lich death pact and free (200 g) level 2 brilliance aura on t2(statue)
So no...ur argument does not hold water. And CLAP? Lol. New mets boys!...mk 1 pala 2 no brilliance mk spamming bolt AND clap. Riiiiiiiiiight
Bolt clap MK is the second moet mana stwrved hero in the game...second only to stomp shockwave TC :p
@@curtroll Good point. Lich has more mana
But it's still better than the archmage! This was mere humiliation
TH had two options to defeat Happy:
1st. No expo, MK first, surround Lich with footies, Bloodmage second, farm into lvl 3 then keep leeching mana from DK. Maybe make Spellbreakers as Happy would surely upgrade Frost Armor or make Banshees.
2nd. Make Archmage, quick expo at lvl 1, hold it and make Paladin. Then just spam Lich with Healing Coils.
It's peasant stomping time!
Destroyed
That what happens when two meme races meet )))
14:02 is why I love you Neo❤
Anyone ever gonna beat Happy?
There were some very close show cups recently, Happy vs Lyn and vs Moon were both 4:3, and both were leading the series against him but failed to close it in the end. I don't think s Human player can do it though...
@@ab-qj3wo You're forgetting his game against Labyrinth. It was super close
you don't "sacrifice footmen to free up supply for rifles" at 38 food.
Love this casting man
Bumblebees can bite and sting. Anything with a mandible can bite its just that theirs cant penetrate human skin because it evolved to harvest nectar from flowers lol
Make Dark Ritual the level 6 spell problem solved now it can no longer destroy entire armies by itself unless it works for it which by that time other races should have had a chance to at least be ready. If you want an forever nova lich you could still have it but you have to commit way more to it
@@randomstuffs8495 Maybe racial differences should be destroyed even further and Undead just gets Clarity Potion too like all others instead of being uniquely balanced around not having it.
UD isn't even OP, they're just particularly strong vs HU and it's always been that way
The only Happy games I thaty are entertaining is when he is vs 120, Moon or Lyn cause that are the only people that seem to stand a chance. He just stomps everyone else. I think he should switch to Human and I bet he still with 70% of his game but at least it will be less one sided.
I would love if he switched to hu.
He wouldn't be the 'best in the world' anymore though XD
fucking patch ud's , nobody heard of him before this patch juss saying
He is good yes! But he would not have 70% winrate as human. He is playing the most overbuffed race ever (ud) and switching to the most nerfed race ever in whole wc3 history (hu) would not be a wise move from him
I desperately wanna see breakers here . Since lich just destroys everything else and their armor attack types arent bad
They are just free XP since their dmg is too low. They are literally useless against UD. Fiends destroy them, let's not even mention aboms. They can only be useful if you're focusing heros, but any UD with 2 brain cells will count on that and just buy an invul and go for death pact. Also, coil is always there.
120 gold frenzy ghouls > any amount of breakers
@@mybigtaco24 mk second or first with clap will deal with em . And I just want them to be produced untill 55 food then get knights
@@ayoub8712 if you’re going one base t3 there’s no reason to slow yourself down investing into breakers, if ur going rifle caster a few breakers would be good towards 80 food, but its not viable to run breakers and get MK 3 on fast expo, best counter to lich opener is level 1 harass with AM and fast tech to tri hero
@@mybigtaco24 but if its 2 base into t3 its better to have some breakers while waiting for knights instead of not spending ur resources or spending them into footmen or rifles who would just get destroyed . I see top humans playing vs ud and u ll notice them having like 1400 gold unused while waiting for knights . The whole point is to not get crushed and be strong enough to creep before knights
Valeu!
1:13:16 Never know what you'll hear come from neos brain.
Why does nobody start with a Paladin 1st against Happy?
wtf man, 6 0, what a pain to watch this, damn, fk it, i watched 3 games already, i quit, idc. TH000 wasnt playing serious and happy probably has too much of an ego to loose a single match.
Any loss would change the number and the price, I think
For sure his win rate against TH would change if he lost
Просто без шансов Хэппи! Красавчик
watching a game with happy become more and more boring : he just destroye everyone!
honestly i kind of agree. he's outrageously good, he makes so few mistakes. it's not even about superior micro or awareness or whatever, he stays consistent in every damn game
Would you prefer noob playing instead
@@4bafiafzil999 competition is what make people watching sport and e-sport. If you already know who will win there is no competition anymore. The better thing will be to have some player who could defeat happy.
This MU is a joke! ofc. Happy is excellent, but despite opponents' micro being on a similar level, they still have no chance.
Is happy already considered the best ever? I played warcraft 12 years ago and he was already dominating, or?
Huel ads looks funnier in Happy's games
Buff the humans , warcraft right now is a game with only 3 races and among which one race is to overpowered
We need to be objective, hoomans have nothing that can be useful against the undead in the early stages of the game, and it is the pace, and if you can not keep the pace you lose. This is the balance of the game and no one is going to do anything about it. Weaker players playing as elves cause a lot more problems for undead and for Happy too. Dead balance is a dead matchup.
Undead advantage (this is not available to other races):
- Two spells to one target, almost instantaneous (coil and nova).
- All heroes from the alt have the skill of control.
- The dead have somehow become the most mobile.
- The most mobile race has a freeze effects.
- The fattest workers.
- Special mechanics of teleportation to the gold mine (worker comes to the mine from any side and takes a free position in the mine, even if this position is on the other side of the mine - such a peculiar teleportation)
- Special land special health regeneration.
- Network in spiders works automatically - passive skin.
- Lack of recharge in swinks (if there was no magic dispersal) you can click endlessly in idle without caring about misses.
- Ability to sell buildings (zikurat gives +10 to food in the process of dispersal, in fact, after the sale, his effect is not when the ziggurat is built).
- Statue able to heal and give mana to all at once.
- Invisible reconnaissance, a passive skill.
Elves also have a lot of things, so do better orcs and alliance, enough for them to suffer, where is the balance?
am opening is not the best. maybe pali or mk. and yeah this must be the karma of the tanks in the past xD . thank you for this amazing cast
If human expands, they cant hold the UD tier 3 push. If they dont expand, their army/heros cant ever catch up to the stronger UD composition. The stars need to align for HU to have a chance in this matchup.
I watched the first 3games which were one sided but sad to see the caster also being one sided. Is he family related to Happy??
Go cry to your mom
If he was on TH's side, it'd just sound desperate
I say neo was neutral as can be, but even he realizes their might be an issue.
@@FackitAllman we have the best casters and then some fa* comes and complains
Greed has poised Humans soul!!! It's great dictator - Charli Chaplin isn't?😍
thx guys for this finaly hums
Anyone think if they played happy 100x in a row they could win one off him??
Maybe tone it down slightly Neo lol
6:20 - 7:00 hahaha
such a fair and balanced game! Undead not even op eh? ridiculous!!
Imagine keep playing the same strats that got countered over and over again, only to complain that it's too OP blah blah blah
"Humanly possible" ^^
I stopped watching after game 3 cause of trying to make fun of other I don't like TH but you should respect him.
nerf ud
Supa geil, Mann!!!
I don't give a fuck about the world cup l o l that made me laugh
Just remove hum from war3. The early game is totally imba.
Ud heal from aura +coil + statue + creep heal lol, this is too much of unbalance from ud side, this game really need to nerf ud to had future!!
Human < Coil/Nova
Undead < storm hammer/ Holy Light
@@luisalbertobaldeonprado i am úd fan , but everyone knows how broken nova coil is especially Frost Nova ( crazy range, short CD , AOE dmg and slow)
@@luisalbertobaldeonprado bullshit... In every tournament we are not seeing any human who can win the tournament. Just a bullshit comment... It's obvious that this matchup is not fair... UD is to strong...
:)
so strange he play 10 games with armchmage but if he try pala first and fast creep with militia to lv 3 he can kill lich so easy with holy light before dk if there no lich there no novas and damage so rest is easy
No, he can't. Paladin heal was nerfed, so was divine shield, the aura as well. Let's not forget the militia nerf.
@@oloyang431 What are you talking about? Holy Light wasn't nerfed, Devotion Aura wasn't nerfed (it was BUFFED even), Divine Shield was only nerfed at Level 2 (by 5 seconds) and Level 3 (by 10 seconds), which is highly doubtful to have any impact on the game before at least Pala Lv 4, and even then is not going to be a deal breaker kind of nerf, not to mention Pala also got a base attack speed buff to compensate. The militia nerf is a big one, sure, but the rest you just made up.
its not like humans didnt try it already stop that bullshit
@@Karifean If it's so easy, why didnt you do it ? :P
All snaz aside, NO holy light isn't on par with lich, he would be out of mana and the lich wouldn't die unless happy ran him into army.
@@Anthony_Goncalves dude he didnt trynit