FOUR STICKS *DEMO/ANALYSIS AND DRUM COVER*
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- This is a demo/ cover video for 4 Sticks which is a rather tough tune to do accurately. Its not a very clear how Bonzo actually played this beat and again, without seeing him, we can only interpret the beat. I taped the sticks together because I find it damn near impossible to play that groove for 5 minutes without a stick sliding loose and needing to be readjusted. Who knows, Bonzo had brick layer hands and maybe he could keep an iron grip on them but , not me! Maybe he taped them too!
I recommend you find the outtake fragment from the rehearsal for this song and give it a listen . He says some funny stuff too...
"I'll show that Baker!" Its up here on RUclips. You can hear him working out a different rhythm , which as I describe , is the same as what he played on the epic 10 minute ending of Whole Lotta Love from the Garden 7/29/1973. That's an incredible moment, which also featured fire eater Mike Quashie dancing and spitting fire to Bonham's trance like jungle beat. It just goes on and on, and on....amazing !!
The first half of the video is a discussion analysis, and then I play the song with the music track. Again, this is my interpretation of his playing. There is a where's waldo moment where a miss a cymbal crash....see if you can find it.
All I can say is WOW! Man, that was good! Great video! Thanks!
As somebody who only does bar chords on a guitar I had no idea there was that much more to drumming except that you beat on them great job
amazinggggggggggggg, channel needs more viewers!!!!!!!! thanks upvoted!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Beautiful right hand side crash cymbal
very nice sound and method. Thanks for sharing your process.
Great!
Hello Sir. I realize this video is 6 years old. I would like to say thank you for the explanation and the breakdown. I have played the drums before on the most novice level, saying that, I was able to follow you and understand what you were explaining. Of course, I'm a life long Zeppelin fan. Great Job!! 👍👍
Thank you!
That was awesome…and explained perfect…thanks
I love your content brother. Keep safe and keep doing what you are doing.
Excellent post!
for all we know Bonzo taped the sticks together. he diffinetly didn't hold them as per say Billy Cobham when he used the 4 stick concept very uniquely
I THINK YOU FOUND IT !! THANK YOU
Brilliant. Love the information you shared. I’ve read similar. You are some player my friend!
Great information, thanks !
Wow amazing George 🤟👍
This is fantastic!
Wow.... Just wow .
Dude. You are not only a talented drummer, you're are fount of Zeppelin knowledge - mad respect 🙏🙏
Amazing!
I'm making my own video on this song and this video saved me a TON of time learning the drum part
Glad to hear! Thanks! 👍🏻
That kit sounds voon-da-baaah!!!!
Superb!
This is great.
Yes, you are right sir!!
Well, that was worth watching....thanks!
nice job
That was excellent sir!! Thank you! Great with my morning coffee!!
Bravo 👏
That speaks to you....
SICKKKKKK BROTHA SICKKKK THANKK YOU!!
freaking great man
Nice playing mate
I’m not sure if anyone mentioned it ,but that outtake you’re talking about kind of sounds like the drum beat in gallows Pole.
Yes, the rhythm is very similar!
Outstanding...Thx for the post
This was the one song that zep didn't want to do live. It is so complicated that Bonzo had trouble playing it. Also since Bonzo drummed using the fat ends of the sticks that maybe he made it sound like he was using four sticks
3:26 my brain exploded
That Take Five as Four Sticks groove had a Pentangle Basket of Light thing going on, doncha think?
You're VERY good..
The book beast describes him using 4 sticks in order to play on the rims and heads at the same time. I guess we’ll never quite know for sure
Super interesting and I’m not even a drummer.
That’s always good to hear!
That was great thank you
I would not have hated hearing the music as you played along to it...but that's me. Otherwise, nicely done.
Well, of course, he has a very low in the background… Just be grateful this video is still up… Is it very easily have gotten the copyright strike on this one and had a video taken down.
Awesome.
Seriously, that looks exhausting.
What a phenomenal breakdown into this most difficult song. You described the nuances perfectly and absolutely nailed the cover. Thanks so much.
Thanks!
Check out Page and Plant Unledded. Micheal Lee holds four sticks but who knows there could be a rubber band at the ends. 🤔
Very, very good, and informative of the song!!
The Four Sticks/Take Five mashup blew my mind.
My left foot is currently having nightmares thinking about trying to learn this song next.
NEAT
I read every comment... amazing no one mentioned that the frustration of getting Four Sticks right led to an explosive drum intro (Bonzo "getting frustrated and letting off steam" according to Page) and the band launching into an improv based on Good Golly Miss Molly, which soon morphed in "Rock and Roll". They worked on that for a bit and then returned to Four Sticks, and Bonzo knocked it out of the park.
Great video, thanks!
That’s really cool! What part of rock and roll? The solo at the end I’m assuming?
@@KevinHarrisDrumming No the intro and beginning of the song
@@ReyAce00 I know the song keep a knockin by little Richard was his influence but I am thinking his pattern was created when he was “getting frustrated and letting off steam” like you said. Do you have any more details about this?
You explain to the T… love to watch you….thanks
Thanks!
Sounds like the hihat starts on the one then the kick on two as they go back and forth.thats tricky
Wow. This guy is the real deal.
I can remember buying LZ IV (on 8-track!) with the money from my 12th birthday and grooving out to this song. I had all the lights off in my room, and the only light was the orange glow coming from the stereo console. I was in another world, not drugs or booze, just pure Acid Rock!
WOW DUDE KICK IT
The genius is in the writing of this🙄
Well done!
When he played though you can hear the sticks clacking together so I don’t think he taped them together 🤔
ITS TRUE HE COULDN'T GET IT.
OR CUT IT. DOWN TO THE PUB.
BACK TO THE STUDIO. GOT
IT STRAIGHT OFF. BUT
YOU CAN HIM HITTING
THE RIMS TO. BRILLIANT.
MY FAVOURITE SONG
OF THEIR CATALOGUE.
OF THEIR MUSIC.
Bonham had great difficulty coming up with a beat for this one at all. I heard interviews saying he was struggling really hard.
Maybe the track was comped from multiple takes made every time he dropped a stick or got tired/sore?
Really enjoy you’re vids man !
Robert Plant actually says on the Page Plant tour as four sticks starts....lets dedicate this to the man who first picked up 4 sticks and played the drums....it aint a MYTH bro But total respect, you smashed that....even the base drum
I like how you describe and demonstrate the link between Jazz and Zep's music here. Something most every other mainstream rock musician today either isn't aware of or they don't have the skill set to comprehend nor play it.
Thanks!
👍👍👍🙏🙏
You rock on drums...ty for explaining the beat
Just a quick run down on my obsession with Bonham. Been drumming all my life. I'm 43, now. Over looked Bonham throughout my teens and younger adulthood. Idk. I just did. I'm still baffled. Loved prog rock and metal for most part. But about two years ago, i was watching Jeff ocheltree with Danny Carey ,whom I've been obsessing over for decades... I had watched that video a million times. But decided to watch the ocheltree video on Bonham's setup and tuning. It got my gears clicking in another direction, about sound and tuning. That video led me to researching Bonham and his sound. Stumbled across this weird goofy dude named, terry keating. Suddenly I find myself watching more and more of his videos. All the while realizing the greatness of Bonham. Learning the how, the what, the equipment , the sound became the coolest shit ever to me. It took my understanding beyond what I thought I knew. Now I'm totally on board live breathe and shit all things Zep/JB. I know, not so quick of a run down. There's lots more, but man do I really appreciate the things you and Terry do. I find you two to be the best out there on the matter. My drumming has elevated. It's like falling in love with drumming all over again. Ty guys!!!
That's great to hear. There has always been something magical and mesmerizing about Bonzo's feel , sound, and touch...his groove. It's not metronomic, not "perfect" but it feels like a heartbeat, of some great animal...like a lion or elephant. No one like him.
BONZOLOGY with Terry & George agreed!!! There's no one like him. Ginger baker can kick and scream all he wants!😂🤣. He's like the only guy in the world that despises Bonham. I'm sure there's jealousy involved. But yeah thanks for helping on my journey of capturing Bonham's sound, essence, feel , approach the list goes on and on, like me🙁. Sorry 😁...
Ginger comes off a very bitter , mean miserable man. That documentary was not flattering at all. I respect his contributions to the music but I have yet to hear him play with the finesse and technique, and funk, and groove, the feel and sound and ..... etc, of Bonzo. Sorry, the proof is in the pudding. That comment about Bonzo couldn't swing ...shit, what nonsense.
BONZOLOGY with Terry & George my jaw did drop when ginger said that. I enjoyed the documentary. You're right, it was not at all flattering to "Mr. Baker "😂 but I found more appreciation for his contributions in the docu , but Bonzo did so much more. He had such a pulse for drumming and command of his ideas. Everything was so organic and musical and well thought out. There's an ocean of art just in the way he mapped out his parts. How he connected the dots in a song. He knew his role so well.
BONZOLOGY with Terry & George also, a bout Ginger. After that documentary I had to binge on cream. I had to see more than what I've heard on radio. And I wasn't impressed. Not even in the discussion. I did the same for Moon. They're both just rambling(on the drums). There's no structure or setups. I couldn't get hooked. Idk. They didn't do much for me. I do like their sound and play. Definitely legends, respectively. Mitchel is better than those guys, in my opinion. He catches my ear.
❤
Great job! You definitely do the Bonham engine justice.
By taping the sticks together, you are missing out on the most important part of what makes this song sound so phenomenal, which is the ends of the sticks clicking together while its played.
Yeah, I did it subsequently without.
That was a really cool drum lesson.
Awesome job thank you so much
I’m exhausted just watching you make it thru the whole song. The Led was the best. Sweet cover here, mate
Phenomenal
Oh my gawd. Take 4 Sticks has to be recorded somewhere! I'm going to try and work that up!
BOHNAMOLOGY.
WHAT A GREAT SUBJECT.
I'M GOING FOR MY MASTERS DEGREE.
👍🏼😁
Man, you’re a great drummer! Thanks for the video.
Killer.
Zep could have come on and just played the fourth album from end to end and me and thousands of others woulda left happy. It's an embarrassment of riches and perfectly formed.
Did no one ever ask his drum tech or one of the band members if he used loose sticks or banded together?
Not that I know of. I'm sure he just grabbed two pairs and bashed it out.
George - fun fact. I got to see Mikey Q (Mike Quashie) do his thing at a club in NYC many years ago. Some friends of mine opened for him and then served as his band during his set. Like many of those booze and hash-fueled days, the memories are a bit foggy, but I do remember Mikey putting a hex on my friend Gil when he grabbed Mikey's shrunken head on a stick and danced around with it.
How did I miss this comment?? Incredible!
"i got to get into that more"
"fackin africans"
"ill show that baker"
"1234561231"
-quotes from a madman
TheFabioOrchedella I love it, it's like poetry the way you phrased it. Haha!!
Also Bonham was not formerly thought music like John Paul Jones
Someone else besides me noticed the play between 5/8 and 6/8! Because of the speed I read it as eigth notes rather than quarters... But I disagree with the idea of the 2-beat pickup.To me, it starts squarely on the 5/8, as a 2+3 beat. The accent on the 3d eigth misleads.Really neat is the shift back and forth between the 5 and 6: from 6/8 triplets it shifts to 2+2+2, the last 2 being the first 2 of the 5/8.The accent on the 3d eigth is mimicked later on by the accent on the 4th eigth of the 6/8.
George D That is a valid point and certainly works out metricly speaking but to me it doesn't sound right harmonically. The strong chords logically land on the down beats or first beats of the bar so the harmonic rhythm makes more sense to me with the "one" being aligned with the main chords.
Wow, that was cool! And I'm not even a drummer. Thanks for sharing.
This is a good drum lesson....and I think he's right on the money....
of course THE REASON it's called FOUR STICKS is because other than Jonesy, it was too complicated and BONZO figured it out by PLAYING, WITH "FOUR (DRUM) STICKS" ~ (why all the tape hiss?) OK! ENJOY!
Sounds great man
I've always loved this song. Love it more now. Thx..excellent vid.
Awesome Video!!
I'm sorry, but I don't hear the click.
I have loved this song since the first time I heard it. You showing how the drum is played through it blows my mind. Just wow!
Thank you for doing what you do!!
Thank you for watching what I do!!
This does sound quite impressive. I'm practicing with 8 sticks right now.
It wasnt until I heard the story about him using 4 sticks that I noticed if you listen closely you can hear the sticks clicking against each other.great video
I was just discussing the unheralded cromulence of "Four Sticks" with a friend and Google brought me here. Thank you for explaining everything rhythmically going on in this amazing song in terms and ways that are not condescending and very informative.
Eye thank ewe ! 👍🏼
Amazing! Fascinating and Enlightening.
Alex Van Halen plays a lot of Bonham in his earlier solos.
Cool study.
You mention the alternating hands morphing from straight eighths to triplets. You sure these aren’t *swung* eighths? That’d put the left hand on the third partial of the triplet, essentially doubling the kick drum. I thought that’s what Terry described as the Bonham Engine.
By keeping the engine going and simply moving the left hand from the third partial to the second partial, you’ve got the Bonham triplet.
Whether this is how Bonham executed it, I’m not sure. But it’s got some elegant logic to it.
I always loved this song, probably the most from led zeppelin IV. I was lucky enough to go to Morocco and see the kind of musicians that inspired this music. The sheer sonic energy was inescapable. It's no wonder that they took inspiration from it