@@Polcat94 see i disagree on a wording level... if i said "black people are this" the insinuation is that i'm saying all black people are that, not that some black people are like that, yknow?
So does the caller owe Jovan $1000 or $1500 now as he lost the bet? Jovan provided via the 2006-2010 study from the CDC, and the caller failed to substantially disprove the study.
This would be legally binding in my state, it not only constitutes a verbal contract but the video actually serves as direct evidence of that contract. It's not terribly difficult to successfully sue over verbal contracts, but if there is direct evidence of the contract that makes it a slam dunk. Depending on the time involved, it might not be worth the money though. Civil litigation can be a real PITA.
On this episode of Epic Crashout: He called Jovan "boy", said all the right wing talking points, racist and misogynistic in nature. His parent's taught him well. I should've clocked it with his southern accent and his inability to be honest with his pronouns in the beginning. The pattern's never failed. Such a great litmus test prefacing the conversation with someone stating their name, age and pronouns.
I don’t know which people are funnier, the ones who demand that everyone’s language be dumbed down for them because they refuse to learn big words, or the ones who talk like 16th century scholars to mask the fact that they have no good arguments lmao
That "family oriented christian" culture caller was talking about was Puritan culture. Which, not so fun fact, ended up here not because they were fleeing persecution. They were fleeing accountability because they wanted to religiously persecute others and weren't being allowed to in Europe.
where could I read about that reasoning? In my history classes I was only ever taught that they left to practice freely. Not that I don’t believe it would be true, I just wanna make sure this is another instance of the school system lying about history to kids
@@memedealermikey one source that you can find through Google scholar is the book "The Puritan Tradition in America 1620-1730" there are other sources too but some of them I had to pay to access, let me look around for some of the free ones for you.
@@memedealermikey A good book to look up for more information is The Puritan Tradition in America 1620-1730, it covers a lot of the intricacies of why they chose to come here
So is the narrow gate of gaining entrance to the Academic homogeneous,intellectual elite left wing of politics. The less initiated can belong’ getting only a few things in order,they can Trumpet, they can belong to a tribe; the winning tribe,that beat two incredibly decent and qualified democrats on November 7 2024.
What's so sad about this is that its kinda clear the guy (at least internally) realizes that its a third rail in his epistimology to qwk "Are black people *actually* worse parents or is that a racist talking point?" It's a central pillar of his entire ethos. So that's when he chose to crash out. Knowingly or not, this guy's thought terminating cliches and anti-intellectualism safeguards kicked in to preserve his ideology on the ONE point that would have unraveled his entire world view.
He's pissy that they're laughing at him, but what can you do but laugh at someone who says Americans left western culture then describes British culture while trying to describe American culture to prove they're different enough to invalidate a British study? He's done nothing but say stupid and laughable stuff. Man thought "what are your pronouns?" was a gotcha before they even started. He said, "don't mansplain-shame me" ffs!
@@Preciouspink Oh, you don’t know how to search for content that the algorithm doesn’t present to you? Are you aware that you can take in content from multiple perspectives and political ideologies or do you just assume that everyone follows the algorithm like you?
@@ZinkB I didn’t know everyone else was so proactively inclined. People generally are impacted by what they prefer and is gift wrapped to them on every platform. I admire your independence and initiative
This guy accused the debaters of making "jabs" at him because his feelings were hurt but he said SO MANY disrespectful things about women TO WOMEN, The only difference is that they had a thicker skin and didn't react. The classic shit too, like the shit men say just to make women angry so that they can call them emotional. But when it didn't work he made himself out to be the victim.
One thing I noticed around 4:14 in, when he was talking about doing Christmas shopping with his partner, is the way he framed the questions he asks her: "What would be appropriate for your daughters? What do you think your son would like?" So it matters to him what the son would LIKE, to cater to his desires, but it's more important that the daughters get something APPROPRIATE, their own preferences be damned. And yes he does go off the rails much harder later on than that, but it's just an interesting bit of foreshadowing in how he views women.
I picked that up but my thing is I want to know how long they've been together bc he had to ask her. Which he's putting the mental load on her to help him shop but I'm sure she doesn't do that.
@Polcat94 right? When i dated someone with kids i never had to ask that because i knew them! I paid attention to their interests, listened to what they wanted. Heck my brother's gf had a son when they got together, i almost never see or interact with him, but i still picked up on enough to get him started on a rock collection, and boy was he amused by the copralite
@@Polcat94 it really tells me that he's either not as far into this relationship as he wants to come across, or he doesn't pay any attention to the kids. Possibly both. And the language difference between gifts for the girls and gifts for the boy is just weird. I don't think I've ever had to be concerned with finding an appropriate gift. Usually they just are without me having to consider the question.
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 right! Same even as a person not around a lot of kids I know a few things they'd like bc they tall about it so much lol so yeah either he's not involved or that far into which if you're not that far into the relationship just say that instead now he looks even worse 😅
17:05 some people want to be slaves with no agency or choice... No dude. They don't. Sub/Dom dynamics are based on mutual respect and a shit ton of emotional maturity and healthy communication. 50 shades of Grey was fanfic of a stalker story. Not real or healthy in any way.
You know, I was honestly sitting there thinking, "Damn, enough with the picking at him, let's get this back on track" ... and then he lost his racist mind and went mask off. And I realized the entire panel read that man infinitely better than I did. 😂
I went to trade school (finished this year) and one of my classmates was a 30+ year old man with a wife and small child. The child was always sick in some way (definitely related to the wife contracting Covid while pregnant). School would start at 7:30. One day I overhear him and his buddy. First guy said he woke up from the kid crying because it was sick, and he and his wife cared for it, but then he got annoyed and left at around 6am to go to school, only to discover that the doors wouldn't open for another hour. He proceeded to sit in the parking lot in his car and wait. He just up and left his wife to deal with the sick on her own because he was oh so annoyed. Good for him that he had option. She never did. Anyway. I'm at 4:40 and the dude just reminded me of that
@@LPNurja have you heard what happens to infants sometimes when mothers are unable to ‘just get away’? Don’t judge someone until you walked a mile in their shoes.
The instant Jovan started to read the actual study which proves the caller wrong, he starts insulting everyone instead of actually dealing with the facts. He was so high and pompous before, saying that he wouldn't take jabs or insult anyone, when the most they said was that he brought a stupid point, and the moment actual science was being spoonfed to him all his lies crumbled and he showed himself as a racist sexist bigot who couldn't accept reality even if he wanted to. So sad that these people can't even realize how detached from reality they are.
She cooks, washes the dishes, vacuums, sweeps and mops, cleans their room, cleans the bathrooms, dusts, waters the plants, takes care of the kids, does the laundry, and provides 100% of the emotional labor. He cuts the grass and takes out the trash. My guess.
I always find it funny how these dudes can say that their relationship is equal, but get defensive when patriarchy is brought up. Like bro, if your such a good guy then why does the topic offend you... Unless deep down you believe you are being honest. You don't have to feel shame as a man by talking about these things dude. Denying something as obvious as patriarchy existing just makes you sound sus.
Right? Also as a man, the patriarchy as a concept is important to me to learn about, so i can be a better partner for my gf. Because i love her and want what's best for her. This includes the best version of myself. But men like him don't want to be "better" since they already consider themselves perfect the way they are. That's why they lash out. How DARE you imply that they are not perfect by showing them that there is room for improvement!
Not going to lie, at the start i was like, "this guy really sounds like he wants to learn, why you being so mean" then Jovan explained the point at which he wasn't talking it seriously and i was like fair play. Then he showed his true colours. Moral of the story: Listen to women- they have loved experience in there side. Thank you for helping me identify that.
I love a lot of Jovan's debates but this one is just bad. So many nonsense points and just insults and attacks, and he raises a lot of decent objections even though i disagree with him entirely. I would recommend watching this again and just taking a step back.
@jovanmbradley him being racist was after you all embarrassed yourselves for 30 minutes being bad faith and hostile for no reason. Also presenting poor arguments. He was right, he just also turned out to be racist.
@TheActionHank them being hostile doesn't make him right. And his antagonistic a started it right off the bat. Ya'll are seriously the whiniest little babbies
14:36 "You know what that means" We used to know what woke means, but now we have to decipher it's meaning from context like squanch because people use it like a buzzword like caller is doing here.
As a Brit myself I find it quite funny that this caller seems to thing we still live in the feudal ages… Ironically American and English culture is very similar, a lot of the reason is because the internet is so Americanised so people grow up with influence from primarily America.
totally on jovan side but it was a little annoying how the other co hosts were instigating an argument or disagreement with the guest, its very different from jovan's normal approach where he just sticks to facts and being nitpicky while they just seemed like they wanted to get under the guys skin... it's whatever it was just annoying :/ just felt like stalling the real convo from happening, like the pretending to be dumb just to get on his nerves like cmonnnnnn
@@OsssV fair point there, yeah. though it's no different from the co hosts doing the exact same bullish, instigation type jabs. dgmw he clearly deserved it but if not to educate, what's the point of this debate? sure, angering bigots is funny but it's not making them any less hateful towards minority communities
He's all like don't talk down to me then proceeds to talk down to them. They're asking clarifying questions it's not their fault he sucks and has stupid points that proves nothing
@@Polcat94 Maybe. But they were all gotcha questions from the start IMO. dgmw again, the caller is an idiot and 100% wrong but instead of telling him why so many men treat women like property, they just try and get him to confess that he views his own wife as a pet. Then when that didn't work, it's on to his friends' wives. Sorry but like... is that all you're gonna bring to the table? idk maybe I'm very wrong about this but the whole video rubbed me the wrong way differently to Jovan's other episodes with or w/o co hosts
British guy here....as you can imagine, I wanted to write a message about his statements regarding 'Cultural' differences. But instead, I was too busy crying laughing at you putting him in timeout when he threw a tantrum. My dog literally learns faster than this dude.
In the UK, 72.1% of women aged 16 and over were employed in October to December 2023. As of November 2024, the labor force participation rate for women in the United States is 57.3%. So, yes, more US women service families than work.
Dude: IM NOT GONNA GET "GOTCHAED," IM NOT GONNA LET YOU GET A CLIP OF ME FREAKING OUT also dude: proceeds to start cussing everyone out and crashing out.
Yikes the racism eventually came out with the "boy" statement. And "disrespectful women"? It just takes the right buttons, and those things always get umasked.
You know how cats get over stimulated when you rub or play with em too much and they start biting and scratching. I think thats what happens to racists when their beliefs towards black and brown ppl are proven false. Bro got downright feisty.
I've only seen a few videos from this channel so far, but the variety of reactions to sources that prove the guests wrong is so entertaining. I've seen a guy refuse over and over to just look up the site Jovan was reading (the title of which was said by Jovan multiple times), but kept on demanding to read it himself, there was a guy who just fully submitted to cognitive dissonence and just shrugged, and this guy is whining about how a British site's records couldn't possibly be similar to the US. The excuses just never end.
Just look up rates of single mothers in America compared to Britain and you’ll realize that 21 and 22% are really similar but then you get into race disparity and that does have different numbers between different races
Regardless of what his thoughts are or my thoughts etc. I love the way he talked about his girlfriend. He was gushing about her and that's how it should be. If he switches up dont come at me i haven't finished the video
Why does the call have to be constructive? It's supposed to be entertaining, which is the point. And what's juvenile about calling the guy out on the dumb stuff he was saying?
@@tari8134 if you find that entertaining sure. But it felt a lot less like a guy who couldn't handle facts and a lot of making fun of him for his personal life.
@@wazappoful if you can not continually reach people with the validity of your political values Watch while others continually defeat you at the ballot box. Enjoy your ownage’ for all that it’s worth
I've been enjoying these debates but this one was a little silly at points. There are differences between Britain and America and it's disingenuous to claim otherwise. America adopted a lot of cultural traits from Britain and other European countries but it has had a fair amount of time to develop its own identity. It would be better to use a study actually pertaining to the country you're talking about, if you're making a claim specifically about that country (America). Also 'What's American culture? Mayo?' is something you say when you're looking to offend or belittle someone. He came out of the gate disingenuous by saying he 'didn't use pronouns' and you could all probably already tell he was sexist but that was still a stupid point to be making, if it wasn't a joke.
Anyone can see that the dude wasnt sincere from the beginning like some of you are trying to make it out it be. Plus the fact that he stated that he didnt care about facts says something
"I take exception to your 'all men are misogynist' comment"
[Proves to be a misogynist man]
"Well that didn't take long."
Love how some men automatically assume people mean "all men", says a lot about them.
The problem with this is he came out the gate being like it's not all men and no one said it was all men.
@@SleepyMatt-zzzJovan expressly defended the "all men" position.
@@Polcat94 see i disagree on a wording level... if i said "black people are this" the insinuation is that i'm saying all black people are that, not that some black people are like that, yknow?
@@zacheryeckard3051are all puppies cute? Are all amoebas round? Are all people abled? Hes using averages to make a blanket statement
“I’m not gonna say anything that’s gonna make me look bad”
[literally took 5 minutes]
Omg so true lmao
So does the caller owe Jovan $1000 or $1500 now as he lost the bet? Jovan provided via the 2006-2010 study from the CDC, and the caller failed to substantially disprove the study.
I think he said 5k
This would be legally binding in my state, it not only constitutes a verbal contract but the video actually serves as direct evidence of that contract. It's not terribly difficult to successfully sue over verbal contracts, but if there is direct evidence of the contract that makes it a slam dunk.
Depending on the time involved, it might not be worth the money though. Civil litigation can be a real PITA.
"Don't mansplain-shame me" is WILD
Knowing that this man is in charge of a school district just makes me sad
Right! 😅 scary!
He was probably lying
@zenbear9952 in America sadly I doubt it
He's pretty much the average rural US school board member.
He's pretty much the average rural US school board member.
On this episode of Epic Crashout:
He called Jovan "boy", said all the right wing talking points, racist and misogynistic in nature. His parent's taught him well.
I should've clocked it with his southern accent and his inability to be honest with his pronouns in the beginning. The pattern's never failed.
Such a great litmus test prefacing the conversation with someone stating their name, age and pronouns.
Man I was legitimately shocked with how much he instantly exploded when his black fathers claim was challenged.
It’s a shame that such a fun sounding accent is wasted on so many people like this, honestly.
They cash out most of the time.
Roflmfao, **"is this like a gotcha show" because I don't understand basic English and words**.... what a clown
Reminds me of one line from Vaush, along the lines of: "I don't Gotcha people! They walk directly into walls!"
I don’t know which people are funnier, the ones who demand that everyone’s language be dumbed down for them because they refuse to learn big words, or the ones who talk like 16th century scholars to mask the fact that they have no good arguments lmao
And they wonder why more and women don't want anything to do with them anymore.
they immediately suspect a gotcha as soon as they need to use their brains...
"So I have this study and some stats that say....."
"Oh no! There goes the left with their dishonest debate tactics again!"
@@edwardzignot2681
"Hey what's your name and your prefered pronouns so we can adress you respectfully?"
"PRONOUNS??? So MuCh FoR tHe tOlErAnT lEfT"
That "family oriented christian" culture caller was talking about was Puritan culture. Which, not so fun fact, ended up here not because they were fleeing persecution. They were fleeing accountability because they wanted to religiously persecute others and weren't being allowed to in Europe.
where could I read about that reasoning? In my history classes I was only ever taught that they left to practice freely. Not that I don’t believe it would be true, I just wanna make sure this is another instance of the school system lying about history to kids
@@memedealermikey one source that you can find through Google scholar is the book "The Puritan Tradition in America 1620-1730" there are other sources too but some of them I had to pay to access, let me look around for some of the free ones for you.
@@memedealermikey a good one you can find with Google scholar is the book "The Puritan Tradition in America 1620-1730"
@@memedealermikey A good book to look up for more information is The Puritan Tradition in America 1620-1730, it covers a lot of the intricacies of why they chose to come here
@Witchoftheriver this. The puritans were religious extremists. Almost like the Evangelicals of today.
"Nice guys" are the worst
So is the narrow gate of gaining entrance to the Academic homogeneous,intellectual elite left wing of politics.
The less initiated can belong’ getting only a few things in order,they can Trumpet, they can belong to a tribe; the winning tribe,that beat two incredibly decent and qualified democrats on November 7 2024.
@@Preciouspink is this some new variant of slam poetry?
@@Preciouspink go take your meds
@@Preciouspink "narrow gate of gaining entrance [...]"
Public libraries are free, comrade
I find it interesting that this “not all men” caller feels so comfortable interrupting and talking over the women on the panel.
And taking any pushback against his ideas or questions for clarity as an "attitude" from the women...
And immediately complaining about "disrespectful WOMEN" - women specifically, can't leave out that word from your rant - when he gets mad
Yea it’s crazy that while trying to juggle 3 other people also talking over you and being bad faith
@ ok karen
@@ZinkB crazy work you got me stumped there I guess, great deduction
Damn he really went mask off racist in the end. Holy shit not even trying to hide it.
He specified white as american culture at the beginning
Definitely not surprised by the later stament(s)
What's so sad about this is that its kinda clear the guy (at least internally) realizes that its a third rail in his epistimology to qwk "Are black people *actually* worse parents or is that a racist talking point?" It's a central pillar of his entire ethos. So that's when he chose to crash out.
Knowingly or not, this guy's thought terminating cliches and anti-intellectualism safeguards kicked in to preserve his ideology on the ONE point that would have unraveled his entire world view.
"are you done with your mantrum?"
"nope!"
the whole debate summarized
"we left the western culture" 😂😂😂
He's pissy that they're laughing at him, but what can you do but laugh at someone who says Americans left western culture then describes British culture while trying to describe American culture to prove they're different enough to invalidate a British study? He's done nothing but say stupid and laughable stuff. Man thought "what are your pronouns?" was a gotcha before they even started. He said, "don't mansplain-shame me" ffs!
Some say he's still throwing a tantrum to this day
Thousands of years from now in the echoes of time can be heard,"fuckboy"
This guy was an absolute moron.
Headline reads: "Local Man Fails Vibe Check. Still Thinks He Should Be Taken Seriously."
Dude that “doesn’t have pronouns” thinks a lot of us live in echo chambers…
I do,it’s called algorithms, and so do you
@@Preciouspink Oh, you don’t know how to search for content that the algorithm doesn’t present to you?
Are you aware that you can take in content from multiple perspectives and political ideologies or do you just assume that everyone follows the algorithm like you?
@@ZinkB I didn’t know everyone else was so proactively inclined. People generally are impacted by what they prefer and is gift wrapped to them on every platform. I admire your independence and initiative
@ I appreciate your civil response.
Mantrum is a great word, I can't believe I have never seen it used before 😭😭
Is this a gotcha show? Dude it's a basic question. This guy lost at the start
“So you are a submissive man?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jovan about to light some candles and turn down the lights 😭😭😭
*Careless Whispers starts to play*
@ *rubs cat ears on dudes lips…* 🤣😭
This guy accused the debaters of making "jabs" at him because his feelings were hurt but he said SO MANY disrespectful things about women TO WOMEN, The only difference is that they had a thicker skin and didn't react.
The classic shit too, like the shit men say just to make women angry so that they can call them emotional.
But when it didn't work he made himself out to be the victim.
Dude contradicted himself with every other word that came out his mouth 😂😂
One thing I noticed around 4:14 in, when he was talking about doing Christmas shopping with his partner, is the way he framed the questions he asks her: "What would be appropriate for your daughters? What do you think your son would like?" So it matters to him what the son would LIKE, to cater to his desires, but it's more important that the daughters get something APPROPRIATE, their own preferences be damned.
And yes he does go off the rails much harder later on than that, but it's just an interesting bit of foreshadowing in how he views women.
I picked that up but my thing is I want to know how long they've been together bc he had to ask her. Which he's putting the mental load on her to help him shop but I'm sure she doesn't do that.
@Polcat94 right? When i dated someone with kids i never had to ask that because i knew them! I paid attention to their interests, listened to what they wanted.
Heck my brother's gf had a son when they got together, i almost never see or interact with him, but i still picked up on enough to get him started on a rock collection, and boy was he amused by the copralite
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 100% unless you're just starting there's no excuse not to know the basics of what someone wants.
@@Polcat94 it really tells me that he's either not as far into this relationship as he wants to come across, or he doesn't pay any attention to the kids. Possibly both. And the language difference between gifts for the girls and gifts for the boy is just weird.
I don't think I've ever had to be concerned with finding an appropriate gift. Usually they just are without me having to consider the question.
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 right! Same even as a person not around a lot of kids I know a few things they'd like bc they tall about it so much lol so yeah either he's not involved or that far into which if you're not that far into the relationship just say that instead now he looks even worse 😅
17:05 some people want to be slaves with no agency or choice... No dude. They don't.
Sub/Dom dynamics are based on mutual respect and a shit ton of emotional maturity and healthy communication.
50 shades of Grey was fanfic of a stalker story. Not real or healthy in any way.
And even with those relationships it's not on 247 like they're real relationships.
There's literal legal paperwork so the Dom knows the limits and will stop whenever the sub wants. The sub has control in actuality
The report is the first link when searching "CDC rates of fatherhood by ethnicity". The caller didn't even try to find the report.
Guest had just about enough when his racist dead beat dad rhetoric was being disproven
Facts don't care about his feelings
You know, I was honestly sitting there thinking, "Damn, enough with the picking at him, let's get this back on track" ... and then he lost his racist mind and went mask off. And I realized the entire panel read that man infinitely better than I did. 😂
THIS! Like I don’t think people realize after doing this hundreds of times we can read a persons true intent from 2 minutes into a call.
9:40 "I'm definitely NOT just talking about myself when I say American culture..." LOL
His girlfriends still a single mother, because he’s just become another one of her kids
1:07 First time caller asks if its a gotcha show
That pronoun thing from callers pisses me off so much dude. Literally just answer the question lmao
This guy has Walmart assistant store manger vibes
Reminds me of the manager character from Killa Kay
If this caller in fact does have a significant other, send a wellness check 😥
Welp...thats enough men for today
He's rock hard and is making it everyone else's problem
I went to trade school (finished this year) and one of my classmates was a 30+ year old man with a wife and small child. The child was always sick in some way (definitely related to the wife contracting Covid while pregnant). School would start at 7:30. One day I overhear him and his buddy. First guy said he woke up from the kid crying because it was sick, and he and his wife cared for it, but then he got annoyed and left at around 6am to go to school, only to discover that the doors wouldn't open for another hour. He proceeded to sit in the parking lot in his car and wait. He just up and left his wife to deal with the sick on her own because he was oh so annoyed. Good for him that he had option. She never did.
Anyway. I'm at 4:40 and the dude just reminded me of that
@@LPNurja have you heard what happens to infants sometimes when mothers are unable to ‘just get away’? Don’t judge someone until you walked a mile in their shoes.
@@Preciouspink You mean like how the husband forced it on his wife by just leaving?
The instant Jovan started to read the actual study which proves the caller wrong, he starts insulting everyone instead of actually dealing with the facts. He was so high and pompous before, saying that he wouldn't take jabs or insult anyone, when the most they said was that he brought a stupid point, and the moment actual science was being spoonfed to him all his lies crumbled and he showed himself as a racist sexist bigot who couldn't accept reality even if he wanted to. So sad that these people can't even realize how detached from reality they are.
“We do everything equally”… define equal. What does that look like to him?
She cooks, washes the dishes, vacuums, sweeps and mops, cleans their room, cleans the bathrooms, dusts, waters the plants, takes care of the kids, does the laundry, and provides 100% of the emotional labor. He cuts the grass and takes out the trash. My guess.
I get it was to piss off the caller but "if it isn't true, why does it bother you" is fucking crazy
😂😂😂he didn’t want to hear from the CDC 😂🫵🏽
I always find it funny how these dudes can say that their relationship is equal, but get defensive when patriarchy is brought up. Like bro, if your such a good guy then why does the topic offend you... Unless deep down you believe you are being honest.
You don't have to feel shame as a man by talking about these things dude. Denying something as obvious as patriarchy existing just makes you sound sus.
Right?
Also as a man, the patriarchy as a concept is important to me to learn about, so i can be a better partner for my gf.
Because i love her and want what's best for her. This includes the best version of myself.
But men like him don't want to be "better" since they already consider themselves perfect the way they are.
That's why they lash out. How DARE you imply that they are not perfect by showing them that there is room for improvement!
Not going to lie, at the start i was like, "this guy really sounds like he wants to learn, why you being so mean" then Jovan explained the point at which he wasn't talking it seriously and i was like fair play. Then he showed his true colours. Moral of the story:
Listen to women- they have loved experience in there side. Thank you for helping me identify that.
Imagine having a prompt that is talking about a specific place, but then using data from a different place
Men are so emotional; he's so upset he's pulling the "man" card
I love a lot of Jovan's debates but this one is just bad. So many nonsense points and just insults and attacks, and he raises a lot of decent objections even though i disagree with him entirely. I would recommend watching this again and just taking a step back.
Anyone that starts out having a fit about pronouns is not anyone worth talking to. They are obviously weak minded trolls.
I'm halfway through and already forgot what the debate was SUPPOSED to be about lol
i like how he said he wasn't gonna "flip a lid" and then does exactly that a few minutes later ....
Bruh must have a channel with all the people coming in to simp for him in the comments
Yo deadass. They here a man being racist and go “well but you could have not talked down to him 👉🏾👈🏾”
@jovanmbradley him being racist was after you all embarrassed yourselves for 30 minutes being bad faith and hostile for no reason. Also presenting poor arguments. He was right, he just also turned out to be racist.
@@TheActionHank 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheActionHank cry about it
@TheActionHank them being hostile doesn't make him right. And his antagonistic a started it right off the bat.
Ya'll are seriously the whiniest little babbies
"Mayo" haha
Just some casual racism thrown in.😊
@@CandlesAreBadOkay. How is that racism?
14:36 "You know what that means"
We used to know what woke means, but now we have to decipher it's meaning from context like squanch because people use it like a buzzword like caller is doing here.
Gosh this was so embarrassing. This guy is literally so insecure that it hurts.
I stumbled onto these debate videos. This guy's ice f****** cold and I'm here for it.
25:20 i’ve been cackling for over 2 minutes rewatching this, i can’t breathe this is so fucking funny, oh my god 😭😭😭😭
10 mins in and the conversation was going nowhere. Not your most interesting video tbh
dude was on edge from the start... you could hear it in his tone.
As a Brit myself I find it quite funny that this caller seems to thing we still live in the feudal ages…
Ironically American and English culture is very similar, a lot of the reason is because the internet is so Americanised so people grow up with influence from primarily America.
totally on jovan side but it was a little annoying how the other co hosts were instigating an argument or disagreement with the guest, its very different from jovan's normal approach where he just sticks to facts and being nitpicky while they just seemed like they wanted to get under the guys skin... it's whatever it was just annoying :/ just felt like stalling the real convo from happening, like the pretending to be dumb just to get on his nerves like cmonnnnnn
The convo was going nowhere the moment he had an aversion to giving his pronouns
@@OsssV ur very right, i think that's a great way to sus out bad faith in a convo!
@@OsssV fair point there, yeah. though it's no different from the co hosts doing the exact same bullish, instigation type jabs. dgmw he clearly deserved it but if not to educate, what's the point of this debate? sure, angering bigots is funny but it's not making them any less hateful towards minority communities
He's all like don't talk down to me then proceeds to talk down to them. They're asking clarifying questions it's not their fault he sucks and has stupid points that proves nothing
@@Polcat94 Maybe. But they were all gotcha questions from the start IMO. dgmw again, the caller is an idiot and 100% wrong but instead of telling him why so many men treat women like property, they just try and get him to confess that he views his own wife as a pet. Then when that didn't work, it's on to his friends' wives. Sorry but like... is that all you're gonna bring to the table? idk maybe I'm very wrong about this but the whole video rubbed me the wrong way differently to Jovan's other episodes with or w/o co hosts
British guy here....as you can imagine, I wanted to write a message about his statements regarding 'Cultural' differences. But instead, I was too busy crying laughing at you putting him in timeout when he threw a tantrum. My dog literally learns faster than this dude.
In the UK, 72.1% of women aged 16 and over were employed in October to December 2023. As of November 2024, the labor force participation rate for women in the United States is 57.3%. So, yes, more US women service families than work.
Jovan and Alina were weirdly shitty in this one. More than usual.
in american culture, ur healthcare is linked to employment. ain't like that in Britain, culturally speaking
Love it when the mask slips.😂
Dude: IM NOT GONNA GET "GOTCHAED," IM NOT GONNA LET YOU GET A CLIP OF ME FREAKING OUT
also dude: proceeds to start cussing everyone out and crashing out.
His girlfriend goes to another school.
does anyone else find it interesting that the only example he could come up with of a man being submissive was in sex, NOTHING else lmao
Keep up the good work, Jovan “Karl” Marx 👍
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Yikes the racism eventually came out with the "boy" statement. And "disrespectful women"? It just takes the right buttons, and those things always get umasked.
He's a COVID denier, of course...
💥🚗 damn dude... Lol 🤦
You know how cats get over stimulated when you rub or play with em too much and they start biting and scratching. I think thats what happens to racists when their beliefs towards black and brown ppl are proven false. Bro got downright feisty.
Debate ends at 0:40
Racists always rat themselves out in the end 😂
I've only seen a few videos from this channel so far, but the variety of reactions to sources that prove the guests wrong is so entertaining. I've seen a guy refuse over and over to just look up the site Jovan was reading (the title of which was said by Jovan multiple times), but kept on demanding to read it himself, there was a guy who just fully submitted to cognitive dissonence and just shrugged, and this guy is whining about how a British site's records couldn't possibly be similar to the US. The excuses just never end.
He got mad because he couldn't find the article fast enough. Probably reads at a third or fourth grade level.
Looked it up and it turns out a higher percentage of women in britain have jobs than women in america, BIG OL L RIGHT THERE
I’m gonna hold your hand when I say this “these numbers are per-capita”
@ THATS THE WORDS THANK YOUUU
Two kids from another marriage…ooooph
What’s wrong with that
it is so tedious communicating with people who don’t want to listen and don’t read anything
I love the new video from the trans woman callingnyounout on your bullshit
Bro call in to debate and stop saying nonsense in the comments
Hard as a rock is craaaaaaaazy
Just look up rates of single mothers in America compared to Britain and you’ll realize that 21 and 22% are really similar but then you get into race disparity and that does have different numbers between different races
Not a “not all men” guy.
Millennials crash so hard bruh 🤣🤣🏌🏽🏌🏽
Bro feels personally disrespected when he hears positive stats about black people. thats some dedicated racism.
This is disrespectful? Sounds like hes been coddled.
Sun Dodgers is wild😂😂😂
This was a glorious crash out
Regardless of what his thoughts are or my thoughts etc. I love the way he talked about his girlfriend. He was gushing about her and that's how it should be.
If he switches up dont come at me i haven't finished the video
He goes down a pretty racist path at the end. But it doesn't invalidate his earlier points.
@TheActionHank nah his points were invalidated entirely separately
@@TheActionHank WHAT points?
They always prove the point😂
The ladies spoke so evenly the entire time so for caller to say they have a tone is weird
The panel felt really juvenile in this one. Like, the caller was a punk, but it really felt like they were unconstructivley mocking him for most of it
Good
Why does the call have to be constructive? It's supposed to be entertaining, which is the point. And what's juvenile about calling the guy out on the dumb stuff he was saying?
@@tari8134 if you find that entertaining sure. But it felt a lot less like a guy who couldn't handle facts and a lot of making fun of him for his personal life.
@@wazappoful if you can not continually reach people with the validity of your political values Watch while others continually defeat you at the ballot box.
Enjoy your ownage’ for all that it’s worth
@@tari8134 so far the first 27 minutes have been really boring and pointless.
I love y’all but y’all busted his balls a lil too much. He was good faith despite being dumb.
I've been enjoying these debates but this one was a little silly at points. There are differences between Britain and America and it's disingenuous to claim otherwise. America adopted a lot of cultural traits from Britain and other European countries but it has had a fair amount of time to develop its own identity. It would be better to use a study actually pertaining to the country you're talking about, if you're making a claim specifically about that country (America). Also 'What's American culture? Mayo?' is something you say when you're looking to offend or belittle someone. He came out of the gate disingenuous by saying he 'didn't use pronouns' and you could all probably already tell he was sexist but that was still a stupid point to be making, if it wasn't a joke.
I thought it would never come! But it’s delicious.
The level of bold and dense 😂 and then the spiral. N he is a superintendant(an educator) oh my god we are doomed.
Superintendent is a role. It means you oversee everything. It is a role in construction as well which is what he probably works in
@ ffs i hope it is construction.
what did i miss? why are you going agro on this guy?
Anyone can see that the dude wasnt sincere from the beginning like some of you are trying to make it out it be. Plus the fact that he stated that he didnt care about facts says something