LOONA and GWSN is my ultimate group because of their music and its really sad to see talented artist like them get used and then neglected by their agency. Coincidentally the members of both group is really close with each others. Hope all of them the best. Who knows maybe they can setup an agency together.
So sad, GWSN deserved much better, no mistreatment. Too many bad companies in the industry, they will make or break you, no support for the idols who have to stand up for themselves and take lawsuits against them
Except for Source Music/Hybe, they have never done anything bad to their idol groups. Nope nothing bad at all and theyre even pushing for am I =/= doll thing whatever that is...
this is awful :c their music is so good, it was such a breath of fresh air in kpop. I really hope that another company can take them and promote them properly so they can continue to do music together
it's annoying because there aren't many girl groups with gwsn's concept i am not sure what to call it but whilst most girl groups were doing girl crush in 2018 they debuted with a unique concept
They deserve so much better, it upsets me so much knowing all that they've went through. I'm honestly so tired of hearing about idols getting mistreated by certain companies, especially finding out that some of my faves Omega X, Loona, GWSN, etc go through such terrible treatment and something needs to change. These idols work hard and they need proper treatment, respect, and support. I seriously hope the Omega x and Loona situation will be an eye opener to the companies and make them realize that they really need to pay attention to how them and their staffs treat the idols.
How can a group with one of the best discographies in actual kpop end up like this? I feel so angry for them, they are so talented and have so much potential. I really wish they can go on to better things together as a group, although it's very unlikely. I just hope they can be ok after all of this.
GWSN and Loona really deserved so much better. Phenomenal talent, phenomenal members, discography, production, mvs, aesthetics. I wish them all the best GWSN were my ults :(
wow that is so wrong. I feel so bad for the girls who got criminal records because the company couldn’t/ wouldn’t do their job. I hope they can appeal those charges and have them removed. I am however very happy that Wave was so terrible they didn’t copyright the girls names or group names so they can keep them.
This is extremely cruel...a criminal record bse of visa overdue bse the company is careless ..... imagine if they moved to another agency: 2 members would not be back back because of visa records....this is so unfair for them....I wish them success in life
That's why I thank God everyday for Happyface/DC company. The fact they literally changed names for their group and are still supporting them with 3 ~ 2 well produced comebacks per year for 6 years and the members even renewed their contract before the old one expired says a lot. Their growth is super organic and their fanbase dedicated. It's not about the size of the company it's about the ppl running it. The amount of business Men from other industries who think they can just open an agency, get some teens, debut an idol group and make money is astounding.
Somnia and Orbit here. Watching the last live of DC make me think how lucky the girls and us are for them having a company doing anything shady. DC it’s the example of everything a group can be even if you came from a small company, just need talent(of course) and a company that treat the group right.
instead of sympathising with gwsn and their staffs and criticising the company, you chose to bring up some other company and make it all about them for no reason. also happyface sold nft... during the promotion of maison... a song about saving and protecting the environment... yikes
Yeah is so rare to see groups with an alternative sound and besides Dreamcatcher and Billie is always look like their situation is difficult cause bigger companies rarely try this type of sound.
This reminds me of Pristin. They were literally the newest hottest girls on the block and then like 2 years later Pledis disbands them. You really can’t help but think about all the machinations that led up to that point because seriously, why?
Please please please.. with nothing copyrighted, I hope they get another chance at a different company.. Like it Hot is one of my favorite songs, ever.. they also have a really good discography.. please.. i hope they get another chance..
The fact I haven't heard anything song for the group but still care much about them since they are human At this point maybe it will be better to disband a group if they can't be managed properly than make them work uncomfortable hope the best for GWSN and the members
I’ve been a fan of the group for a few years, but the inconsistency and company changes just made me feel like they were being sabotaged. I’m glad that the girls are suing
I'd said this before and I'm gonna say it again. Idols need to start a labor union! If actors and writers have their own union, heck even musicians in US & UK has their own trade union. Then, S. Korea needs to start one as well considering kpop is already international.
That is 100% true..u never know what an idol or idol group gose through until they come out on they own or if its reveal to the public I really wish them the best in the future and hope we will be able to see them on stage again as a group or as an solo artist
Fans really tried to make a difference. Heartwarming. But the plight of the groups. It’s time for the government to enact laws for treble damages against principals of companies that do these fraudulent practices.
I loved gwsn I haven't heard of them since 2021 it's sad that the girls had to go through this. They have the talents and looks how can the company not take care of them. They have beautiful voices and that alone could have made them popular. if people these days didn't just go for the big 3 music or idols who have beautiful faces then this girl's would've been big (I'm not insulting the big 3 idols just the companies because the music has honestly been a little bit different for my taste)(and they are idols who become popular for there visuals but they sometimes show that they need a little bit more time to become better) it's my opinion so please don't think it's a fact I'm just saying what I think
GWSN had annoying child like voices and their songs were bad rip off songs from f(X) they even had an Amber like member. Nobody wants to stan a cheap ripoff from another group.
@@vixxexo6855 funny you say that when that "Amber like member" is a huge supporter of VIXX, was in a VIXX cover dance team predebut, and Ravi even wrote a song for the group.
The fact that the 2 foreign members face penalties and even a criminal record is insanity, I hope something can be done about this now that it was revealed that it was due to the company’s fault. It’s really really unfair and potentially damaging for their careers if they want to continue in Korea.
So many talented idols mistreated because of money.. And how peoples are just interested in group from big company even if there's alot groups that talented, but never get recognized..
If I was rich I would fund and adopt this group, they are too good to let fizzle out! Very sad about this, esp the CRIMINAL records. It was not the members fault. Hearing they were evicted etc because of poor management is so sad. They had high quality music and M's, a distinct concept and sound. Sending my best wishes to the members. They deserve better.
It all comes down the exploitation. When you're a teenager (or close to being one), all you care about is your dream of being an idol. You'll sign anything. And I doubt proper legal representation is made available for the vast majority of these potential idols as a true representative wouldn't allow their clients to sign these literal sweat-shops/child labor companies. You have the bigger companies that can take care of their idols, but there is a lot more in this business than just producing music. You have to spend money to make money, and you need to take care of the talent you have under you - even if that talent might not be what you hoped for. That's the gamble they made, and bigger companies can afford to risk the money. Smaller and Middle companies just can't sink all that investment into an unknown property without extreme luck on their side. That's why I've always wanted the Korea Government to set some laws on what can and can't be put into a contract.... especially when you're having multiple people signing on for YEARS in faith that the company they are under can deliver on their part. When they can't, you have LOONA and GWSN. I think if a company is under a certain financial bracket, they shouldn't be allowed to sign clients in contracts that are seven years long. That's insane. I know they have to make that investment back in training, food, and housing, but that's the chance you make when making a group. I think smaller companies should have smaller contracts like a year or two, with options to renew if the group is showing profit. This takes away some of the danger on the idols themselves, and forces smaller companies to seriously think if they can afford launching a new group. The gamble should ALWAYS be on the company, not the talent they are hiring.
Damn, my favs didn't deserve that. They are so sweet and have amazing music and the company treat them like some money laundry service. I was really mad at the news that the staff wasn't seeing the money, specially since I, as a fan spent money on albums etc to support them. Hopefully they can get justice and be successful in their paths.
The fact that wave didn't even give them a single cent, let alone a fraction of a cent, is down right bad, obviously, as mentioned. These ladies and the producer working with them deserve better, as well, along with whoever else was in that company besides GWSN. Wave deserves to be defunct and shutdown. They also deserve to get sued in south Korea if things get even more worse. I wish the best for GWSN and curious on what path is next for them.
I'm so sad like loona is one of my ult groups and they are also going through something similar like this, omegax one of my semi ult groups just went through this kind of and they made it out luckily, and gwsn who is also another one of my semi ult groups is going through this and it's just so hard to see my fav groups going through this:c
it’s crazy because if the company is only a paper company at this point why keep the contracts? just terminate them without lawsuits? the wave is so stupid. and i hope mia and soso’s situation is settled they don’t deserve a criminal record it wasn’t their fault it was the company’s responsibility.
This is so upsetting. It sucks how talented idols with great potential are squandered by crooked and incompetent companies. I especially feel bad for Miya and Soso because settling international affairs is not cheap or easy. 😞 They definitely deserve better
Thank you for making this and getting their story out there. GWSN deserve need to know people are rooting for them! 6/7 if them have instagrams please go follow them!
It is so disgusting how these companies pick dols up and promise to make them a star only for them to face negliection and mistreatment once they are not getting enough attention.....hmm I wonder why. Like how the hell does a company think it's ok to not pay the members? I remember watching their debut MV and having hope for them, hopefully they can move on in their careers if they choose.
It's all so incredibly heartbreaking 😢💔. They were such a talented group, and really have been supported more. Still hoping against hope that they will come back. #Gwsn #Groo
I just pray that GSWN stay together and just go under another company that is not to big but big enough that they are treat fairly. I’m happy that if they stay together they can use the same name and their own names as well! Fighting ❤!
Omg please, i hope a good company would just adopt them. A plus if they can continue their signature sound. WM entertainment has long debuted a girl group, please adopt them.
It's not just the small companies. Remember Aespa and their terrible mistreatment by their own company, after being abu!!ed by all these little rich monsters at that school? Would they dare do something against SM, for hanging them up to dry and gaslighted them after? Don't think so! People can only do something against smaller companies, with less power. Barely. Because, look at Loona. A group with four times the initial budget of Twice. Look how they still struggle getting away from that company.
They haven’t announced an official disbandment. They just announced that all members are leaving the company. They could still be a group and signed to a different company - similar to what happened to EXID.
If Gfriend and Mamamoo never made it big I think both of those groups will be in these kind of mess also. Especially Gfriend, the way they got kicked out just because they are not profitable anymore boggles my mind. I think Source music will be a much more garbage company than bbc and ts combined because the ceo will try hard to get everything back knowing how much his greediness is.
Incredibly depressing-this group was one of the most promising debuts of 2018.
Yeah....
Everything about them screamed talent. Yet here we are 💔😢
GWSN deserves better.
Agreed
LOONA and GWSN is my ultimate group because of their music and its really sad to see talented artist like them get used and then neglected by their agency. Coincidentally the members of both group is really close with each others. Hope all of them the best. Who knows maybe they can setup an agency together.
And both groups are close, they debuted in the same year… such a shame that two of the most unique 4th gen ggs is dealing with abusive companies :(
Everglow also faced neglect in 2022 :(
So sad, GWSN deserved much better, no mistreatment. Too many bad companies in the industry, they will make or break you, no support for the idols who have to stand up for themselves and take lawsuits against them
Except for Source Music/Hybe, they have never done anything bad to their idol groups. Nope nothing bad at all and theyre even pushing for am I =/= doll thing whatever that is...
@@lv70rouge how about gfriend? 😔
@@lv70rouge
And how they handle all the accusations against garam?
@pruit v3 he's not troll what are you alking about?
this is awful :c their music is so good, it was such a breath of fresh air in kpop. I really hope that another company can take them and promote them properly so they can continue to do music together
it's annoying because there aren't many girl groups with gwsn's concept i am not sure what to call it but whilst most girl groups were doing girl crush in 2018 they debuted with a unique concept
Billlie is probably the closest music type to gwsn, I recommend them!
They deserve so much better, it upsets me so much knowing all that they've went through. I'm honestly so tired of hearing about idols getting mistreated by certain companies, especially finding out that some of my faves Omega X, Loona, GWSN, etc go through such terrible treatment and something needs to change. These idols work hard and they need proper treatment, respect, and support. I seriously hope the Omega x and Loona situation will be an eye opener to the companies and make them realize that they really need to pay attention to how them and their staffs treat the idols.
How can a group with one of the best discographies in actual kpop end up like this? I feel so angry for them, they are so talented and have so much potential. I really wish they can go on to better things together as a group, although it's very unlikely. I just hope they can be ok after all of this.
So true!
GWSN and Loona really deserved so much better. Phenomenal talent, phenomenal members, discography, production, mvs, aesthetics. I wish them all the best GWSN were my ults :(
wow that is so wrong. I feel so bad for the girls who got criminal records because the company couldn’t/ wouldn’t do their job. I hope they can appeal those charges and have them removed. I am however very happy that Wave was so terrible they didn’t copyright the girls names or group names so they can keep them.
GWSN was the closest thing we got to Fx. Such great music
right? I'm devastated
Fr :’(
Billie is carrying the legacy tho
But I miss GWSN nonetheless 😢
This is extremely cruel...a criminal record bse of visa overdue bse the company is careless ..... imagine if they moved to another agency: 2 members would not be back back because of visa records....this is so unfair for them....I wish them success in life
I hope another company will recruit the girls cause they had so much potential when they debuted. For now let's wish the best for the girls
That's why I thank God everyday for Happyface/DC company. The fact they literally changed names for their group and are still supporting them with 3 ~ 2 well produced comebacks per year for 6 years and the members even renewed their contract before the old one expired says a lot. Their growth is super organic and their fanbase dedicated. It's not about the size of the company it's about the ppl running it. The amount of business Men from other industries who think they can just open an agency, get some teens, debut an idol group and make money is astounding.
Fellow Somnia ✨✨
You're entirely right. I really thought GWSN would've had a happy story like DC
Did they even change their Name to Dreamcatcher Company ? Sweet
Somnia and Orbit here.
Watching the last live of DC make me think how lucky the girls and us are for them having a company doing anything shady. DC it’s the example of everything a group can be even if you came from a small company, just need talent(of course) and a company that treat the group right.
instead of sympathising with gwsn and their staffs and criticising the company, you chose to bring up some other company and make it all about them for no reason. also happyface sold nft... during the promotion of maison... a song about saving and protecting the environment... yikes
Yeah is so rare to see groups with an alternative sound and besides Dreamcatcher and Billie is always look like their situation is difficult cause bigger companies rarely try this type of sound.
This reminds me of Pristin. They were literally the newest hottest girls on the block and then like 2 years later Pledis disbands them. You really can’t help but think about all the machinations that led up to that point because seriously, why?
Please please please.. with nothing copyrighted, I hope they get another chance at a different company.. Like it Hot is one of my favorite songs, ever.. they also have a really good discography.. please.. i hope they get another chance..
The fact I haven't heard anything song for the group but still care much about them since they are human
At this point maybe it will be better to disband a group if they can't be managed properly than make them work uncomfortable hope the best for GWSN and the members
That's so sad, GWSN deserves better 💔
I’ve been a fan of the group for a few years, but the inconsistency and company changes just made me feel like they were being sabotaged. I’m glad that the girls are suing
I'd said this before and I'm gonna say it again. Idols need to start a labor union!
If actors and writers have their own union, heck even musicians in US & UK has their own trade union. Then, S. Korea needs to start one as well considering kpop is already international.
That is 100% true..u never know what an idol or idol group gose through until they come out on they own or if its reveal to the public
I really wish them the best in the future and hope we will be able to see them on stage again as a group or as an solo artist
Fans really tried to make a difference. Heartwarming. But the plight of the groups. It’s time for the government to enact laws for treble damages against principals of companies that do these fraudulent practices.
I loved gwsn I haven't heard of them since 2021 it's sad that the girls had to go through this. They have the talents and looks how can the company not take care of them. They have beautiful voices and that alone could have made them popular. if people these days didn't just go for the big 3 music or idols who have beautiful faces then this girl's would've been big (I'm not insulting the big 3 idols just the companies because the music has honestly been a little bit different for my taste)(and they are idols who become popular for there visuals but they sometimes show that they need a little bit more time to become better) it's my opinion so please don't think it's a fact I'm just saying what I think
GWSN had annoying child like voices and their songs were bad rip off songs from f(X) they even had an Amber like member. Nobody wants to stan a cheap ripoff from another group.
@@vixxexo6855 funny you say that when that "Amber like member" is a huge supporter of VIXX, was in a VIXX cover dance team predebut, and Ravi even wrote a song for the group.
GWSN DESERVE THE BEST!!! Let’s give them the warmest welcome if and when they decide to comeback.
The fact that the 2 foreign members face penalties and even a criminal record is insanity, I hope something can be done about this now that it was revealed that it was due to the company’s fault. It’s really really unfair and potentially damaging for their careers if they want to continue in Korea.
So many talented idols mistreated because of money..
And how peoples are just interested in group from big company even if there's alot groups that talented, but never get recognized..
It is a shame that such talented and wonderful ladies got to be under a shit management. They deserves so so much more.
god i hope they find their spot in the industry again, i hope this isn't the end.
ironic how LOONA and GWSN are very similar in names and situations …i wish them the best
If I was rich I would fund and adopt this group, they are too good to let fizzle out! Very sad about this, esp the CRIMINAL records. It was not the members fault. Hearing they were evicted etc because of poor management is so sad. They had high quality music and M's, a distinct concept and sound. Sending my best wishes to the members. They deserve better.
It all comes down the exploitation. When you're a teenager (or close to being one), all you care about is your dream of being an idol. You'll sign anything. And I doubt proper legal representation is made available for the vast majority of these potential idols as a true representative wouldn't allow their clients to sign these literal sweat-shops/child labor companies. You have the bigger companies that can take care of their idols, but there is a lot more in this business than just producing music. You have to spend money to make money, and you need to take care of the talent you have under you - even if that talent might not be what you hoped for. That's the gamble they made, and bigger companies can afford to risk the money. Smaller and Middle companies just can't sink all that investment into an unknown property without extreme luck on their side. That's why I've always wanted the Korea Government to set some laws on what can and can't be put into a contract.... especially when you're having multiple people signing on for YEARS in faith that the company they are under can deliver on their part. When they can't, you have LOONA and GWSN. I think if a company is under a certain financial bracket, they shouldn't be allowed to sign clients in contracts that are seven years long. That's insane. I know they have to make that investment back in training, food, and housing, but that's the chance you make when making a group. I think smaller companies should have smaller contracts like a year or two, with options to renew if the group is showing profit. This takes away some of the danger on the idols themselves, and forces smaller companies to seriously think if they can afford launching a new group. The gamble should ALWAYS be on the company, not the talent they are hiring.
thank you for shedding light on GWSN’s situation!
That's why they disappeared like wtf
This has happened so much
I wonder if any idols are really happy in they company
Damn, my favs didn't deserve that. They are so sweet and have amazing music and the company treat them like some money laundry service. I was really mad at the news that the staff wasn't seeing the money, specially since I, as a fan spent money on albums etc to support them. Hopefully they can get justice and be successful in their paths.
Kids need to STOP signing with these shady companies!!!!
nah way u called them kids while their oldest member is literally 31 yrs old
The fact that wave didn't even give them a single cent, let alone a fraction of a cent, is down right bad, obviously, as mentioned. These ladies and the producer working with them deserve better, as well, along with whoever else was in that company besides GWSN. Wave deserves to be defunct and shutdown. They also deserve to get sued in south Korea if things get even more worse. I wish the best for GWSN and curious on what path is next for them.
all this recent news breaks my heart, gwsn was THE group that got me into kpop ☹️☹️
When will companies learn how to be companies 😭
They deserve better, seeing them receiving mistreatment breaks my heart 💔😢
#GWSN
I'm so sad like loona is one of my ult groups and they are also going through something similar like this, omegax one of my semi ult groups just went through this kind of and they made it out luckily, and gwsn who is also another one of my semi ult groups is going through this and it's just so hard to see my fav groups going through this:c
Thank you for addressing this!! I was so upset how mistreated they were esp as a very talented and promising group.
This is happening way too often 😫
oml I love GWSN.. I wish the best for them!!
I petition for "CLC" known as Crystal Clear to take CUBE to court for the rights of the trademark. Purrrrr
i hope they redebut with each other in a BETTER company..
i doubt they will
It just a wishful thinking tbh, even group like Laboum and Brave Girls can't survive after all the spotlight let alone this group.
we need laws!!!! all those people should go to jail, at least that crazy ceo that hit omega X
it’s crazy because if the company is only a paper company at this point why keep the contracts? just terminate them without lawsuits? the wave is so stupid. and i hope mia and soso’s situation is settled they don’t deserve a criminal record it wasn’t their fault it was the company’s responsibility.
This is so upsetting. It sucks how talented idols with great potential are squandered by crooked and incompetent companies. I especially feel bad for Miya and Soso because settling international affairs is not cheap or easy. 😞 They definitely deserve better
Not these wonderful people why were treated this way 😭😭😭
Even after all their hiatuses, mistreatment, and company changes, GWSN are still popular in Korea, so we can save them!!!
Ironically, GWSN and Loona are both managed by terrible companies.
I mean, in more technical ways, "do not accept the fate of the moon".
the company modus operandi kinda sus. its like someone open up an entertainment company just to 'clean their money' or something like that.
I miss them so much. They deserve so much better.
I love the Domino effect Chu and the member of Exo who created this Domino effect of taking the companies to court!
Actually, DBSK paved the way for this
It's nothing to do with Chuu this shit happened all the time.
Thank you for making this and getting their story out there. GWSN deserve need to know people are rooting for them! 6/7 if them have instagrams please go follow them!
I liked them so much 😢 so sad, girls are really talented and deserve better
.that's how many literary refuse to keep in the entertainment, even if it's their dream..
They are so talented and I was always surprised that they didn't get huge. So disappointing. I hope they all do fine in the future!
GWSN deserves better, this is so sad
Gosh and I always wondered why they haven’t made any comebacks… so sad
It is so disgusting how these companies pick dols up and promise to make them a star only for them to face negliection and mistreatment once they are not getting enough attention.....hmm I wonder why. Like how the hell does a company think it's ok to not pay the members? I remember watching their debut MV and having hope for them, hopefully they can move on in their careers if they choose.
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Lena could've been a It Girl if she was with a decent agency.
first loona and now this... this sucks so much
It's all so incredibly heartbreaking 😢💔. They were such a talented group, and really have been supported more. Still hoping against hope that they will come back.
#Gwsn #Groo
I’m so sad I love them and miss them so much
Was rooting for them when they debuted never knew this I always wondered why they never made new comebacks damn…..
I just pray that GSWN stay together and just go under another company that is not to big but big enough that they are treat fairly. I’m happy that if they stay together they can use the same name and their own names as well! Fighting ❤!
Haven’t heard of mistreatment this bad since ts entertainment and all their artists
Omg please, i hope a good company would just adopt them. A plus if they can continue their signature sound. WM entertainment has long debuted a girl group, please adopt them.
It is so upsetting watching this because I love them so much. GWSN hwaiting!
I appreciate you pronouncing it the korean name.
So every company mistreats their idols now?
Unfortunately a lot of small companies do this- the kpop industry is really dark
The girls are too hot to be treated like this
I know them since their Bazooka release.
Starting off the year pretty depressing lol. Momoland gwsn and loona already gone
Who's gonna outsell the industry with red velvet, nct, and wjsn now?😞😞
انا حزينة من أجل ميا 😢
It's not just the small companies. Remember Aespa and their terrible mistreatment by their own company, after being abu!!ed by all these little rich monsters at that school? Would they dare do something against SM, for hanging them up to dry and gaslighted them after? Don't think so! People can only do something against smaller companies, with less power. Barely. Because, look at Loona. A group with four times the initial budget of Twice. Look how they still struggle getting away from that company.
💜 good luck gwsn
Is that the same company managing Kepler?
No it isn't. Kep1er is under wakeone ent
There are some of them who do not support gay people, and that is good, and that is why they are a good band and they have a brain as well))(Miya ❤
wow... :(
I think Soso was kept on hiatus maybe bc she is Taiwanese
i just learned that GJSN and GWSN are 2 different groups...
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*Not related* - I JUST FOUND OUT MOMOLAND DISBANDED 😭
They haven’t announced an official disbandment. They just announced that all members are leaving the company. They could still be a group and signed to a different company - similar to what happened to EXID.
@@otokouno ok thank you, i wasn't sure so...
I love GWSN❤
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If Gfriend and Mamamoo never made it big I think both of those groups will be in these kind of mess also. Especially Gfriend, the way they got kicked out just because they are not profitable anymore boggles my mind. I think Source music will be a much more garbage company than bbc and ts combined because the ceo will try hard to get everything back knowing how much his greediness is.
PNation Get them 😅 i know if PSY get them he will produce another Tiktok song 🫠