Those are extremely serious questions he is asking but in a light note, yet some lawyers are laughing them off. They might determine the direction of the case
Another question I would ask the commissioner Justus Nyangaya. What triggered him to look into the servers? Did he realise the physical forms and those on the portal didn't match in the 5 days leading to the pronouncement? Did he raise the issue before? Who in ICT did he communicate with? I suspect he was OK with the tally and the 34As matched. He only went on a fishing expedition after the results were announced.
Well said and Observed, Sir! EXACTLY, why did the 4 NOT complain, ESPECIALLY since they were also in the MAJORITY 4 out of 7?!!! Something is Fishy here! These DIRTY FOUR Comissioners have a lot of answering to do!
They need to be handled a bit firmly so that next time they put aside their partisans whims aside while doing national work. How come the same four appointed at the same time are the same ones allover the place that they blowing a whistle.
@@rnm9597 Judge Smokin's concern is why selective complaints when there were other things they were made to engage in that fell out of their constitutional mandate.
I put it to you that the reason is that the Math was not Mathing and the fifth was not fifthing! if the math mathed and the fifth fifthed... they would have been happy to work as watchmen!
my friend in kenya today,you didn't expect the 4 commissioners to protest because their lives could have been in danger looking at the current situation where election officials disappear and later found dead .Ppl disappear and no one is taken to task that will be the end of you
It's by grace they are alive who protested 2017 and he's no more?? This is Kenya it takes courage to protest coz you can't trust even your own shadow nkt..
I like Justice Smokin wanjala relevant and very legit questions and even the way he articulate issues professionally...I pray that smokin one day become Jc
The four forgot their roles and assumed the roles of assmio party agent.Next time they will vote before we do and declare that the President won through majority of commissioners
Those 4 commissioner's without doubt were the Uhuru card and when all seemed not to work out for them they ran to Serena so that they can please their masters instead of sitting there to carry the blame of having not delivered a raila presidency as instructed
But it doesn't there was no injustice or that an injustice can be justified because there was no complaint in "good time". It does means though that a commission of injustice was in progress all along.
@@rnm9597 The question is why did they wait until all tabulation was done to storm out. Is it that they were shocked by what the numbers had amounted to?
When the 1st batch of ballot papers arrived, they were all in news that no one informed them.. if the same isn't a protest then he needs clarify what' a protest is.
🤔😭😭iam really out of words, oh lord our God and God for our homeland Kenya, who is in heaven and the same God who sees a honest and transparent heart, May you same God in heaven who maketh the reality remain and be the reality, bless this great Judges who have always on basis of interlectual capacity proved capable to offering justice equally and fairly. Bless them as from the top most of our beloved Sister hounorable Chief justice Martha Koome, her deputy Justice Philomena Mwilu and all others, grand them with more wisdom to doing and becoming a more blessing to our homeland Kenya.
The moment Raila shook hands with Uhuru, he shook hands with the devil, make pact with the devil and what do the devil do? He promise you everything, he encourage you to be his disciples, play by his card and leave the rest to him, but the devil ain't gonna deliver his promises, rather he will destroy you completely. Uhuru is known for empty promises, big lies, and a failure. Why Raila and his friends failed to notice this. Personally, I warned Ruto in supporting Uhuru in 2017 and advice him to join Raila, he wouldn't listen and 3 month later we started seeing the drift, the shift of focus them boom "HANDSHAKE" Unveil. Ruto started being treated like plague... For those who think Ruto is that bad, put your hard feelings aside and start focusing on him to see if he will deliver or he will be another Uhuru. Ruto will prove many of you wrong.
Kenya Kwanza won't have so many hardships since what was being asked aligns more with what the defense will be dealing with. The real thing here is Azimio discharging the burden of proof for their allegations.
These 4 commissioners must return salaries they have earned since they took over their positions. Why should Taxpayers meet their bills 4 doing nothing?
I followed all submissions by all sides and I knew the petitioners case have no merit. My only fear was if The President elect met the 50+1% threshold!!! Maybe that was the only reasonable submission by petitioner is number 6?
but SC wanjala,you sitted here listening to this petition simply because the 4 commissioners alarmed it up..had they not or had you not heard from them you couldn't be sitting here...
How sure r u that he is happy sitting there listening to a poisoned chalice!! The whole things looks so good for the country but only one man would benefit by becoming president through the back door.
The fact that Kenyans deliberately have allowed for more than a decade for me to be abused like the way it is in America,made incapable of even helping myself and my vulnerable daughters,makes these general election petition null and void.There is no justice and clear objective in these petitions.We need to move forward and continue rebuilding our nation.It doesn't matter who is president,we are all kenyans and we need to deal with that from top to bottom.Atleast a fair election happened in Kenya, August 9,2022 and we need to see the new government in place.We have the duty to fight poverty in Kenya but not each other from top offices to the lowest offices.We are wasting time in these petitions and we have nothing to prove.If we all accept all other winners which took place in the system,why query only the presidential outcome simply because our expectations were not met!Peace.
@@naomimapenay176 inawasaidia vipi?...ilinwaende home wakakutane wapange njama na ushahidi mwengine wakupanga?..if ni kujibiwa same time kuna mtu anaweza kujibu hapo?
The judges are asking for so much though from the lawyers. Presidential elections are much more trickier than MCA/Governor since they have to account for more votes. @ the county level, the elections are more fair in this case than presidential votes. So in as much as IEBC screwed up, the lower elections are harder to interfere with because its the home of the smaller contenders (mps, mc e.t.c) . Thats also why you rarely see governor votes cast being more than presidential votes. Petitioners can not provide all the answers to what is bothering IEBC, but if we all play our part we should make the IEBC better.
Yes. He has paid them in billions of shillings . Ruto has to win here. No doubt . These are hunger striken judges and they have received some cash. 👏👏. Nothing is difficult in Kenya if you have money.
And also remember that JULIANA Cherere is a former SECRETARY of the ODM party deputy JOHO! NOT only was Juliana a former ODM Secretary, she was also a former CALL GIRL with Joho as her regular Client! SO, if the Court ask for a POLICE CHRACTER Report on Juliana, then shewould be classed as a PERSON of ILL or BAD CHARACTER! This why i wonder, HOW she became a DEPUTY IEBC Boss?! HOW, HOW? Obviously she was INSTALLED by none other than RAILA and UHURU!
Are people not tired of the dynasty families leading us... What have they done for us apart from leading Kenya to the drains... Why not change the narrative of a common mwananchi can grow up to be a president
Whatever happened happened, now we must show some respect to our elders and especially Raila for his contribution in our democracy. Let's stop name callings. Remember everything happened for reasons. God knows why he prevent Raila from that seat, maybe it's for the best.
Does assigning commissioners any other emerging tasks however temporally amount to vacating their responsibilities as commissioners...its just a question of accountability since they can also re-assign such responsibilities to other staff...further the chairs letter to the commissioners had a rider on OTHER DUTIES...
I wonder the reason why this people are not understanding what is happening in Kenya, according to how is see ,in Kenya if we go this way,we will never ever in our life span do a fair and credible election
This questions are posed by judges for the common person to understand the extent of tampering and methodology used in tampering. They themselves have already understood there was a problem with results. Await nullification of results announced by Chebukati.
Mumeanza sio?..sio baba yenu aliosema maamuzi ya koti ikitoka kama ameshindwa atakubali?...mnataka court pia iwe side yenu na sio kuangalia haki?..ok sawa nyinyi chukulieni rais wenu ni baba mumpeleke ikulu yenu..na sisi tuacheni na rais wetu alietangazwa rasmi
I have noticed citizen tv can't post these questions!why?
They wont
Kwani wee umesahau hao ni wale wale
They are azimidiots
@@GO-wr3de 😂😂😂
Hii Leo ni siku yenu ya kujifariji hamjui kesho itakuwaje.
Wisdom Oozing Out of Justice Smokin Wanjala Fantastic and very legitimate question to the complainant,
Those are extremely serious questions he is asking but in a light note, yet some lawyers are laughing them off. They might determine the direction of the case
And they actually determined
Another question I would ask the commissioner Justus Nyangaya. What triggered him to look into the servers? Did he realise the physical forms and those on the portal didn't match in the 5 days leading to the pronouncement? Did he raise the issue before? Who in ICT did he communicate with? I suspect he was OK with the tally and the 34As matched. He only went on a fishing expedition after the results were announced.
I think somebody needs to take him on for accessing IEBC servers without authorisation.
Excellent and smart question from Justice Wanjala .
He is the commissioner in charge of ICT at the iebc.
Let's wait it's too early
so sad😂.....isnt it?
Citizen will never show this. Kudos Nation for being objective.
But I watched this on citizen Mr propaganda
Nonsense! It was on citizen TV.
Well said and Observed, Sir!
EXACTLY, why did the 4 NOT complain, ESPECIALLY since they were also in the MAJORITY 4 out of 7?!!!
Something is Fishy here!
These DIRTY FOUR Comissioners have a lot of answering to do!
P
Not complaining about an injustice doesn't mean there was no injustice or that an injustice is therefore justified.
@@rnm9597 it can also mean they had pressure from Azimio
They need to be handled a bit firmly so that next time they put aside their partisans whims aside while doing national work. How come the same four appointed at the same time are the same ones allover the place that they blowing a whistle.
@@rnm9597 Judge Smokin's concern is why selective complaints when there were other things they were made to engage in that fell out of their constitutional mandate.
The 4 commissioners thought everything was going to be opaque in supreme and 0.01 % converting
God at work,let them be exposed they planned evil for our Nation but God sees through thick cloud.
Hahahahaha
Hahah No apaque In supreme court they should understand that🤣🤣🤣
It’s funny that the master is silent ¬ happy but the subjects are here laughing thunder is about to strike
And they are now back to work. Yao inafika tu hawatakaa sana
I put it to you that the reason is that the Math was not Mathing and the fifth was not fifthing! if the math mathed and the fifth fifthed... they would have been happy to work as watchmen!
🤣🤣🤣 you honestly made me laugh out loud
☝️🤭🤣🤣🤣
Like seriousely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Smokin very good question to the four commissioners. Smart judge.
my friend in kenya today,you didn't expect the 4 commissioners to protest because their lives could have been in danger looking at the current situation where election officials disappear and later found dead .Ppl disappear and no one is taken to task that will be the end of you
They would still be silent today. Why speak just before results were announced? Did it just become safe all over sudden?
It's by grace they are alive who protested 2017 and he's no more?? This is Kenya it takes courage to protest coz you can't trust even your own shadow nkt..
But you can protest in writing or an affidavit n later produce it court
@@living_water- exactly, The danger left them or disappeared to Uganda I guess
Why in danger and the system was on their sides
I like Justice Smokin wanjala relevant and very legit questions and even the way he articulate issues professionally...I pray that smokin one day become Jc
Why ddn't they protest earlier, why??????
The four forgot their roles and assumed the roles of assmio party agent.Next time they will vote before we do and declare that the President won through majority of commissioners
The only man I love the most in this court
Those 4 commissioner's without doubt were the Uhuru card and when all seemed not to work out for them they ran to Serena so that they can please their masters instead of sitting there to carry the blame of having not delivered a raila presidency as instructed
This man is sharp! Knowledge is God-given
Yes my questions too walingoja nini na maesabu zao
That's a fair question indeed
But it doesn't there was no injustice or that an injustice can be justified because there was no complaint in "good time". It does means though that a commission of injustice was in progress all along.
@@rnm9597 The question is why did they wait until all tabulation was done to storm out. Is it that they were shocked by what the numbers had amounted to?
The timing was poor it means the outcome didn't favour their odds and for that matter options were minimal they Had to recent to that one option
justice smokin wanjala very smart indeed;ruto is chosen by GOD wacheni a lead the country
😂😂😂😂😂zai shuka
LETS ALL BE MATURE AND RESPECT EACH OTHER THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS,insults won't buy us food!.
Chebukati could be on the wrong to some point but the four commissioners are also
Which gives Raila more impetus I.e discrediting the whole IEBC
When the 1st batch of ballot papers arrived, they were all in news that no one informed them.. if the same isn't a protest then he needs clarify what' a protest is.
You are lying.
And neutral from the word go
The moment the judge used the word "magical" I concluded that the case will be dismissed.
No really. He was referring to the qualification cut-mark or the 50% + 1.
They thought Raila was winning after finding he was not winning they walked out. A bunch of fools
Murgor's face is saying it all 🤣🤣🤣
what?
He had to pick his nose😅😅
🤔😭😭iam really out of words, oh lord our God and God for our homeland Kenya, who is in heaven and the same God who sees a honest and transparent heart, May you same God in heaven who maketh the reality remain and be the reality, bless this great Judges who have always on basis of interlectual capacity proved capable to offering justice equally and fairly. Bless them as from the top most of our beloved Sister hounorable Chief justice Martha Koome, her deputy Justice Philomena Mwilu and all others, grand them with more wisdom to doing and becoming a more blessing to our homeland Kenya.
😭so sad, isnt it?
Thank you for "smokin" out the obvious your honor.
The moment Raila shook hands with Uhuru, he shook hands with the devil, make pact with the devil and what do the devil do? He promise you everything, he encourage you to be his disciples, play by his card and leave the rest to him, but the devil ain't gonna deliver his promises, rather he will destroy you completely.
Uhuru is known for empty promises, big lies, and a failure. Why Raila and his friends failed to notice this.
Personally, I warned Ruto in supporting Uhuru in 2017 and advice him to join Raila, he wouldn't listen and 3 month later we started seeing the drift, the shift of focus them boom "HANDSHAKE" Unveil. Ruto started being treated like plague...
For those who think Ruto is that bad, put your hard feelings aside and start focusing on him to see if he will deliver or he will be another Uhuru. Ruto will prove many of you wrong.
He's given opportunity to question Azimio there is another one to question Kenya kwanza it's not over until is over
Until it's over... Well said..
Kenya Kwanza won't have so many hardships since what was being asked aligns more with what the defense will be dealing with. The real thing here is Azimio discharging the burden of proof for their allegations.
@@wodeyaeric5351 are you speaking from a legal perspective ama ni wewe tu na akili yako
@@abdallahyunus7538 Which of the two do u think I am speaking from?
These 4 commissioners must return salaries they have earned since they took over their positions. Why should
Taxpayers meet their bills 4 doing nothing?
Hau ni maa
@@blessedreigner8105 how very impossible and its not ruto the president elected, if not satisfied hama
Peter Tell Your Guuka Ruto anzee Kwanza 😆
@@somalebochannel2883 aaaaaaaiiiiii anarudisha salary yake na ni sisi tulimchagua si tunajua alikuwa deputy pres,atarudisha aje
@@annealex6777 ulichagua mwizi pole sana 😆
Ruto is the right leader
Kabisaa
misleading .
Moi era loading
For hassan Cali
This time the seven of them will upheld it. Sure bet
I followed all submissions by all sides and I knew the petitioners case have no merit.
My only fear was if The President elect met the 50+1% threshold!!!
Maybe that was the only reasonable submission by petitioner is number 6?
Smokin Wanjala is among th most corrupt judges you can imagine walking this earth.
If the acts or processes have been impuned as opined, follow the law as constituted without fear or favour
As opined by who? Who told you courts deals with opinions?
The learned friends are marketing themselves to international level everyone throughout the global is watching. Let's wait ad see.
Bravo Smokin SC
but SC wanjala,you sitted here listening to this petition simply because the 4 commissioners alarmed it up..had they not or had you not heard from them you couldn't be sitting here...
How sure r u that he is happy sitting there listening to a poisoned chalice!! The whole things looks so good for the country but only one man would benefit by becoming president through the back door.
The fact that Kenyans deliberately have allowed for more than a decade for me to be abused like the way it is in America,made incapable of even helping myself and my vulnerable daughters,makes these general election petition null and void.There is no justice and clear objective in these petitions.We need to move forward and continue rebuilding our nation.It doesn't matter who is president,we are all kenyans and we need to deal with that from top to bottom.Atleast a fair election happened in Kenya, August 9,2022 and we need to see the new government in place.We have the duty to fight poverty in Kenya but not each other from top offices to the lowest offices.We are wasting time in these petitions and we have nothing to prove.If we all accept all other winners which took place in the system,why query only the presidential outcome simply because our expectations were not met!Peace.
Well said
U have divergent interests from those of Raila. He is not a poor man. He is pursuing this for self-actualization purposes.
Mkikuyu, you are obsessed with ruto,. Let God judge.
I love this nikama ndrama nikama vindeo!
Reasonable Sir
Bravo Smokin👏
This petition is going nowhere! Naona ile lorry ya Azimio inafaa kufanywa exhauster! Whatever am hearing here is pure rubbish.
😂😂😂😂
My Azimio supporters,is there any hope?
Alot of hope. Hii maswali hapa ni ya kuwasaidia Wana asimio.
@@naomimapenay176 Dalili ya mvua ni mawingu.Hapa tushatolewa 😭😭😭
@@naomimapenay176 inawasaidia vipi?...ilinwaende home wakakutane wapange njama na ushahidi mwengine wakupanga?..if ni kujibiwa same time kuna mtu anaweza kujibu hapo?
Wacheni mchezo wangwana ...until it's over cheer up💙👍👍👍
Hakuna mahali tunaenda..
Hehehe such a terror,,4 commissioners walked out
The judges are asking for so much though from the lawyers. Presidential elections are much more trickier than MCA/Governor since they have to account for more votes. @ the county level, the elections are more fair in this case than presidential votes. So in as much as IEBC screwed up, the lower elections are harder to interfere with because its the home of the smaller contenders (mps, mc e.t.c) . Thats also why you rarely see governor votes cast being more than presidential votes. Petitioners can not provide all the answers to what is bothering IEBC, but if we all play our part we should make the IEBC better.
They don't reason like you. Don't blame them and please don't deny them their justice
What justice ???
De fact remains that dp ruto will defeat Raila in this supreme court case .Tank me later de Azimio lawyers are completely lost on evidence
Yes. He has paid them in billions of shillings . Ruto has to win here. No doubt . These are hunger striken judges and they have received some cash. 👏👏. Nothing is difficult in Kenya if you have money.
@@mutengombango2987 judges too?🤦🏾♂️🤔 Jesus Christ u people
@@mutengombango2987 so u want to tell us that Ruto has more money than the government, uhuru, raila, Joho,sk macharia n the Kikuyu mafia n the likes?
@@mutengombango2987 was every they are being paid ngai
@@kantairuth2637 Ruto has stolen billions that he can throw to an hungry judge while those people you are mentioning are stingy billionaires.
So if the 4 commissioners were Uhurus card, and the 3 belonged to Ruto then we don't have an independent commission
who said it ever was independent😂
They raised the alarm and this is why they are here
@wamaitha Chege,raised alarm over what,they were playing a script.
Alarm on the 11th hour
We only knew this when they went to Serena to say it's opaque.
@@tumsifumunuo2602 my question too??
Yes but in the wrong way
Smokin smoking them😅
Good question honourable judge smokin wanjala 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏why didn't they protest?? THESE 4 COMMISIONERS WERE COMPROMISED BY AZIMIO GODFATHERS
Bad day for petitioner
Good question
My question from word go
Smoke wanjala you guy ur good people
And also remember that JULIANA Cherere is a former SECRETARY of the ODM party deputy JOHO!
NOT only was Juliana a former ODM Secretary, she was also a former CALL GIRL with Joho as her regular Client!
SO, if the Court ask for a POLICE CHRACTER Report on Juliana, then shewould be classed as a PERSON of ILL or BAD CHARACTER!
This why i wonder, HOW she became a DEPUTY IEBC Boss?!
HOW, HOW?
Obviously she was INSTALLED by none other than RAILA and UHURU!
Kazi ipo jamani
Judges were arguing very good but I doubt their judgement
Are people not tired of the dynasty families leading us... What have they done for us apart from leading Kenya to the drains... Why not change the narrative of a common mwananchi can grow up to be a president
Whatever happened happened, now we must show some respect to our elders and especially Raila for his contribution in our democracy.
Let's stop name callings. Remember everything happened for reasons. God knows why he prevent Raila from that seat, maybe it's for the best.
Honestly hapa smoking nailed it
Simple... simple Simple
Does assigning commissioners any other emerging tasks however temporally amount to vacating their responsibilities as commissioners...its just a question of accountability since they can also re-assign such responsibilities to other staff...further the chairs letter to the commissioners had a rider on OTHER DUTIES...
Umewamakizaa
Poking series of tough questions😭😭😭😜
Wanjala Smoking!!! truth
Some ppl are for justice let us wait for it pliz
Serious kenyan
Well said hey stop wasting time and our president ruto could be doing such great jobs all over
Why at the tail end??? May the losers answere🐵🐵🐵🐵😭😭😭😭
I wonder the reason why this people are not understanding what is happening in Kenya, according to how is see ,in Kenya if we go this way,we will never ever in our life span do a fair and credible election
This questions are posed by judges for the common person to understand the extent of tampering and methodology used in tampering. They themselves have already understood there was a problem with results. Await nullification of results announced by Chebukati.
🤣🤣😄
🤣🤣🤣👍
Hakuna nullification
If you don't answer the question the judge can't understand 😂
This Francis is a tool fool who thinks that he knows more
Whatsoever outcome of this proceedings the whole battalion of iebc will be pushed to jobless coner
Citizen bure
😅😅😅😅😅
They could protest earlier and be kidnapped and found in chania.
Haki SMOKING you are confusing me...Now
RAILA alilaniwa nababayake hawezi kua president of Kenya maybe Uganda or Burundi
Small education is what is eating u hard how do u know about case .or ur following other community village fools on what they they are taking about
Propaganda. Hii kenya rigging ndio muhimu
Jane wewe ulibarikiwa na babako unafanya nini hata nguo hauna job hauna ata kuolewa hajaolewa mkunduu wewe msenge
Enda koinange uuze kitu umezoea,wacha propaganda
Mind your business na Acha matusi
Hapa labda mwilu pekee
Wanjala is a bukusu like chebukati. He is protecting his brother. Even in 2017 alikuwa team ruto and uhuru
Bure kabisa mnalialia kama watoto
@@lokeredavid9754 ww nawe unapewa za matako kama mnyama
Mumeanza sio?..sio baba yenu aliosema maamuzi ya koti ikitoka kama ameshindwa atakubali?...mnataka court pia iwe side yenu na sio kuangalia haki?..ok sawa nyinyi chukulieni rais wenu ni baba mumpeleke ikulu yenu..na sisi tuacheni na rais wetu alietangazwa rasmi
Yes
@@festo1591 alietangazwa na hongo?
Blame games .let us dig to facts of verification