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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Scott Pye and Co host Elliot Barbour break down what was a Ford cup in Townsville for round 6. Big names had blunders and plenty forgot how to drive. A few notable mentions though for those that remembered.
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Get Courtney on here
Another great listen guys. Love the insight. Look forward to the next one.
Scrap Friday, sprint racing Saturday, long race Sunday. Sunday was boring as bat shit 😢
100% agree.
Practice sessions on a Friday when everyone's working. And we get a 1.5 min clip on RUclips of the shittest breakdown known to mankind.
Am I the only one thinking we are having to many Top 10 shootouts and it’s taking away from the prestige of them? Supercars is in a world of hurt looking forward.
Nope we agree! If it’s every weekend what makes it special.
Too many fir sure definitely makes it less special
Completely agree with your guys take on the format change. I find the majority of the support categories boring and diluted with 2-3 gaps between Supercars action not to mention the boring racing with one dimensional formats. Big changes are required to engage younger audiences once the current generation are gone. Keep up the good content
They should just be on the 3 endurance races in 2025...
My father and I were there as soon as the gates opened and stayed as long as we could, wasn’t necessarily interested in signings, we were happy to sit behind the pits on Fridays to see the little things you don’t normally see happen during the weekend.
Attendance at the track had a great atmosphere.
One thing we did was have Bastos up to follow the times, and it made it much more enjoyable and took the ease out of working out what was happening
Natsoft not Bastos sorry
@@rossie9651 No track radio?
@@Mabeanie Hard to hear the Radio imo, but that's not a bad thing either, you go for the sound of the cars half the time. Having a readily accessible way of seeing the everybody's lap times and positions in the palm of your hands without delay was a blast. Most TV screens across the track are to hard to read, Great for viewing the racing on the other side of the circuit
@@rossie9651 Agreed. It's hard to read the TV at home too. Lots of tiny words. Too much information at once. F1 does it better in that area, or at least it did in 2022 when I last watched a full race.
These wheel nut issues are similar to what FPR had when CoTF was introduced. Through all of 2013 and a lot of 2014 FPR kept cross threading nuts. Makes you wonder if it's an issue with the nut being cold going onto a hot hub or something like that
I honestly put the side cast on over top of the telecast while I was doing a drive
Haha that’s so good. Appreciate the support!
Just a thought; maybe an idea bouncing off of the Saturday sprint idea. Supercars have introduced a live pit lane so they should use that to advantage. 20 minute practice in the morning to do a little “shakedown” then into two sprint races. No qualifying starting grid for first sprint is reversed to pit lane. Second race determined by the results of the first race. Points will be more “evenly” spread.
Sunday a two or three stopper race.
What are your thoughts?
That's where I disagree, Roland is absolutely right with the diff these cars need more variables to improve the racing. You can talk about format all you want but we had a similar format in Taupo which produced boring races, same at the Bathurst 500. You can talk about format all you want but it is still a qualifying series that occasionally produces decent racing.
Why is the Supercars paddock scared of change, they were against the independent rear end back in 2013 and now against a differential cause drivers don't want to deviate from what they know.
Having a differential will also make it easier for Supercars team to have competent international drivers in the car and it will improve the racing by having more variables.
Every Motorsport category is a qualifying series. It puts the fastest guys at the front and slowest at the back. A different diff won’t change that. Go Karting has good racing and has a solid axle… No one is opposed to change and certainly not on here. It’s good to have these chats but our opinion is just that spending more time and money developing something which is already the most competitive touring car in the world is a waste when you already have low hanging fruit that’s cheap to fix. No driver thinks it would make an ounce of difference. Change the tyre and make the car tougher if you want to immediately improve the racing without touching format. Definitely love hearing your opinion mate it’s what this is about.
They need to have differences to GT and Nascar to keep them unique otherwise just run GT3 like DTM ended up doing... Like ditching paddle shift...
@@apexhuntersunited I think you hit it in the last point there. The goal should be to make the racing better without driving up costs. You're the last true, old school touring car series in the world, and that should be a huge draw, but the Gen3 racing has been pretty mid most rounds, which sucks because the cars are so awesome and the drivers are world class. Make the cars more reliable to able so they can handle a little argy bargy, don't be so quick to penalize hard racing, and allow for a wider set up window, and the racing should get better without requiring a big investment.
@@gerardcrabb4556 That's a silly comment in itself, GT3 and Nascar both have a diff and yet are nothing like each other. Same for Supercars and Nascar there's a huge difference behind the cars irrespective of a differential or not.
@@John-ro3sh The only manufacturer Ford build GT3 and Nascar so probably looking to cut cost in future homolgation Rushbrook has already mentioned Nascar...
Listened to the pod today totally agree with the format needing a change I got the shits so bad listening the Neil talking about the weather that never came for 10 minutes. Lose the shootouts except for Bathurst, and make them 2 day events. Really liking the podcast guys keep it up
Definitely agree with Super2 race straight after top ten shoot out.
I mean how good is Super2 at present 👌
Wild! Not good for whoever is footing the bills though
I think it's actually the different tyre compound that's suiting either car, not the track...
Love your work team.
Cheers!
I think introducing nascar style stages would go along way too spicing up the racing and producing a more random result. Same for having a playoff after a regular season to decide a champion. Historically and race where t8 are at the back has always been a good open race. Some of the lack of willing to have a lunge might come from the threat of a penalty if it goes wrong.
2-3 races a weekend is like stages in a way Nascar just put them in one longer race...
@gerardcrabb4556 could work as long as there is no other track time between races for teams to change setup
Like a few people have said in the comments already I think they should leave the top 10 shootouts for the enduros.
And what do you guys think is causing the parity issues track to track ? Darwin was all GM and Townsville was all ford..
Top ten at a few big events is cool like the odd street circuit. Places like Sydney motorsport park is pointless cause its not a high risk track. we don't really see big mistakes. Just the different aero balance between the cars and setup philosophy between the teams. We think parity is actually pretty good its just that the nature of some tracks will suit the other manufacturer. As long as its even across the year then it's ok.
Cmon guys I totally get the news being things closer together for the broadcast. But you know how hard the teams work behind the scenes between sessions to get the cars turned around and ready for the next session. They need more than 15 minutes…. Plus if anyone has a mistake in a session & crashes their car. There’s no way they’ll be back out the next session.
We used to run 60/60 formats and teams made it work. Between the sessions is actually not too bad for the teams, most of the work they do is setup related not maintenance. Control what they can do more like nascar do and just worry about the on track show. Also if they can do race runs in practice in long practices then making the sessions shorter would still be less mileage. Sorry mate have to disagree with you on this.
Scotty, have you considered a urostomy bag for the duration of your podcast? 😛 As regards the three day weekend, I'm a Kiwi and we only get one round a year for the entire nation to attend. So we go for the entire three days - Friday for us is usually for merchandising and wandering. Saturday and Sunday are regarded as more serious motorsport days. Watching from home, I have it on in the background but only watch the parts that interest me ie: quali and race. My opinion: nix Saturday shootouts, make it special; shake up the structure with two short Saturday and one long Sunday race; bring more events to the calendar. I also think more drivers need to get out in other categories between race meetings to boost driving experience and maximise aggressive potential - using sims is not enough, it needs to be real. Just my two cents worth. 🙂
Hahah I always break the seal too early! Good points! Maybe some events need to be three days then, you’re right. I wish NZ could be a double header. You guys always turn up for it. Sims are good for turning laps, not race craft I reckon. Cheers for the comment!
What's your thoughts on the supercars podcast
I reckon it's obviously reactive to other podcasts but Randall is a bloody good presenter for his age. I still enjoyed it but needs to be authentic and original content.
Good to see them do it, totally missed the mark though. Owned and branded by Supercars. It’s not honest and transparent. Dave said they pulled the first episode cause it needed to be more censored. Also confused why Rusty introduced them. They’re the starts they don’t need someone introducing them. Also the agenda was not relevant anymore as the pod came out weeks after Darwin. Also take the drivers out of their uniform so they are themselves.
@apexhuntersunited Yeah the intro was weird as hell. I remember trying to give the benefit cos it was the first one but felt like Dad controlling the kids online and treating us fans like imbeciles 😆
@@apexhuntersunitedI agree 100%. It’s a podcast about drivers can say what they want provided we (Supercars) are ok with what they say.
So the normal Supercars thing of filtering drivers.
Also agree we don’t need someone introducing them.
@@apexhuntersunitedDepends what was said in that pilot episode. Maybe Davey has a potty mouth.
Reynold did well in the Mustang late 2023 switch has not worked out...
As predicted. Groves is investing in the team so on a good trajectory. Frosty is still good and Dave is just doing what that car did last year. Scotty here so maybe biased haha
Is it just me, or is Supercars trying to launch their own podcast run by drivers? 😂😂😂 I just got a ad for it
Yep a drivers only pod.
Not gonna watch Supercars podcast because it had that feel to it where they will probably just pick and choose what they want to talk about and not mention the controversial but fair questions we want to talk about and yeah their just copying AHU which I'll take over them thank you very much. Great stuff guys and on ya Scotty for calling Team 18 out for their testing being the key factor in Dawin, I was waiting for Townsville too before believing that.
Appreciate the support mate!
Where Have You Guys Been 😄
No Supercars to talk about! Need to switch over to NASCAR we think haha
@@apexhuntersunited Ah Ok I Forgot Supercars Don't Race Every Week
Talking about teams, I think Mostert couldnt be a better mentor for Woody who was awesome for his experience and Mozzy is driving WAU, with his hustle and shaking up that team and making them accountable. An example of a driver shaking up the team. With Payne, I think the opposite, the team and Garth really nurturing him to bring out his best and Reynolds deserves some credit there too last year.
Couldn’t agree more re Chaz. Really looks like he’s got a mature head on his shoulders.
Townsville is unique, being semi permanent/street track. It's a great track but the weather made the racing on Saturday. No more street races after Perth!
Randle v waters - everything you said I agree with, but you gotta remember how long cams been around compared to tom.
@@sirepaulosyes and no, we have all been racing since we were kids and Thomas isn’t a rookie he’s been around long enough to know how to pass. He is a good racer we’re just saying maybe be a bit more aggressive.
Are Both Those Helmets Scotts
Scott did a helmet swap with Shane Van Gisbergen last year. The red bull one is Shane’s and the one on the left is Scott’s first helmet from 1998. 👍🏼