the inner beadlock system seems to be a possible leak failure point for every bolt/pin in there (16 pins per wheel, 64 possible failure points). O-rings do deteriorate especially exposed to the elements. I like the method wheel option much better.
I have run Raceline beadlocks on my crawler for going on 11 years. Never once had an issue. Highways, daily use and wheeling. Never once has a police officer said a thing about them either. Pinching the bead also helps to keep it from rotating on the wheel. I have had this happen a few times on hot days with sticky tires pre beadlock. Came across this video looking for info on a specific beadlock I’m going to run on my street truck but it didn’t make me think twice. The DOT isnt doing their part to keep the roads up around here so the last thing I’m worried about is their opinion on my wheels.
Here in abu dhabi, most people in the clubs run beadlocks. Some can be lighter that stock alloys, and pop outs can get easily mean rolling over. Combined with the fact that bead grips do pop out, and running 8 and even 5 psi is a thing, beadlocks are a great tool for the dunes.
It is not illegal to use beadlock wheels on the road unless the law says you have to use dot approved wheels. Most states do not require this except on commercial vehicles.
@@corksauve4949 yeah I mean can't knock em they are a business and RUclips is a marketing outlet. Some good information in their videos and also just bias towards the products they sell and promote. Also a lot of click baiting because they start the video with "don't ever xyz and end with nah you really need xyz" 😂
I run hutchinson rock monster wheels I've had 3 sets i love those wheels they are street legal but that's not why I run them I'd run standard beadlocks on the road no problem. I don't mind a little extra maintenance and checking the bolts periodically.
Awesome. I have also ran them at 10 and 5 psi... 5 PSI was a little too much traction and I was more worried about breaking axles then a bead at that point.
I’ll stick with my Hutchinson beadlock wheels. I can run 0 psi if I choose. Short of shredding the tire to pieces, I have piece of mind my tire is not coming of my rim. AND…….they are DOT compliant.
Ill say I'm not a mask crawler so i don't need 20s or bigger. I am not even close to extreme situations where beadlocks have been needed. I bought my methods from method before they hit this site. Most guys i see that run beadlocjs want the look not function. Most guys i see run then only go down to 16psi. At the end of the day we all have our own rides and definitely choices and opinions. I have a set of the method 702 on my 2016 jku that I have had for right at a year. I have had no issues with function or quality. Absolutely will recommend them
@@TheycallmeWallyDude I have a 4 door. 37 12.5 17s I had Patagonia mts and didn't have much luck balancing them so used them only offroqd but went down to 12-14. Never a problem. Then went to geolander xats I have went down to 12 on several times with no problems
Good info. I was wondering about my pickup and the ability to continue to pull trailers etc and do light off roading and was undecided on bead lockers.
That Method 701 is beautiful wheel. If I can get my own Jeep I’ll get some. I kept the stock Jeep wheels mostly because my wife won’t let me lift the Jeep and it’s hers. Really digging the black Jeep in the video. It’s is exactly what I want.
I am running a bone stock 2013 JK. Took my wife along on 2 Jeep Jamborees. The second one, we got stuck a lot. At one point, when we were directed to take a bypass, I muttered "this is embarassing", my wife said "We need a lift." "You are right honey, that is a great idea!" 😉
@@nohandle27 I got my wife a Gladiator and inherited her Willys. Now it has a 2” lift and steelies w/33.5” tires. Help out when off-reloading. RUclips.com/@muddyruttzz
There’s DOT approved beadlocks though I swear I’ve seen em. I have a DOT stamp on mine or the rim not the beadlock ring lol If you don’t have beadlocks 15PSi very lowest and that’s like a big push . If you got the bead grip tech I wouldn’t go below 13 But let’s just admit that beadlocks look cool and swapping a ring out is much more cheaper than buying a rim or sending to a shop to fix the trail rash
Most of Method's Beadlock rings retail starting at $200 as with most other companies. It's the main reason the wheel is more expensive since it's forged vs cast. With that said I've ran the 701's below ten and had no issues. I was more worried about having too much traction and breaking an axle.
There has been DOT beadlocks for along time. I believe centerline had the first DOT approved beadlock I ever saw...I would say around 04-05? In petersons 4wheel and offroad magazine on a blue K5 blazer with prerunner fenders
I have the icons with maxxis razor 37s ATs . No problems with leaks and if you have issues with O rings, you zip the stud out and replace! It’s an o ring ! How much would they cost! It’s a non issue! $800 a wheel for rock monsters is stupid, for occasional off road. I can air down to 3 psi and I don’t lose a tire, no brained!
@@JonFox1945 I bought the Icons. The rust isn’t on the threads, but on the cap. These bolts are so tight going in that it chips the paint on the bolt, allowing it to rust.
The new method wheels with the bead grip have been tested down to 1 psi without a blowout - unless you are doing super hardcore wheeling i see no need for a true beadlock anymore.
kinda ironic right? when you hit something on the wheel cracks your tires are done anyways, same with beadlocks or not. I mean dont most beadlocks run like 12-24 bolts or are those all just by design? correct me if i am wrong.
Battle born gate keeper beadlocks is the way to go 250 a rim they come with a second set of rings and they’re steel yes I know steel is heavy but man when an alloy rim gets cracked or you take huge chunks out of the bead from hitting a rock you’re goin to snap that rim as soon as it gets on a tire machine to put a new tire on it Steel you can bend it back and it won’t crack and snap
They are set up for dual mounting. They sell it to you mounted like a regular wheel would BUTTTTT you can then dismount them and remount them using the beadlock ring and then they aren't highway legal any longer.
They're "beadlock capable". You have to purchase the true bead lock rings separately. They sell the vehicles with beauty rings (or fake beadlock rings) that are non-functional.
You can use duct tape on the inside of the wheel instead of paying extra for a "bead retention system". Failed to mention that info...maybe because wheel sponsors won't make money.
Typically the force applied to the tires sidewall is applied to the outer edge. It would be rare that most of the vehicles weight is hanging on the inner bead. With that said the beadgrip wheels have beadgrip on both inner and outer sides.
Every state has their different version of requirement standards for vehicles, but I'm wondering also what the federal requirements are for vehicles other than passenger *cars* when it pertains to modified wheel track, bumper width, bumper length, mudflaps and fenders? Most off-road vehicles here in Southern Utah have a ridiculous amount of the tire width sticking out past factory and/or modified fenders, no mudflaps - and especially on the front of Jeeps in particular - a ridiculously narrow front bumper, which merely serves as a mount for a winch and some D-ring shackles. Most vehicles run these bead-lock rims off-road, but then run them on our local streets, highways and even the Interstate. The excuse seems to be; That because this is a 'tourist' mecca - rental companies make big money on UTV's. These UTV's are allowed to run on city streets and highways with none of the aforementioned restrictions / concerns, so officials let trucks, SUV's, Jeeps, etc operate in non-compliance with local and state safety requirements. Everyone seems to have an attitude of entitlement these days and don't respond kindly to telling them (or even gently reminding them) what they can or cannot do. Any attempts to explain the logic behind the concern for safety - not only for themselves, but especially for all the others they share the road with - always falls on deaf ears.
Because 90% of the time the rules saying you can't do something are stupid and make no sense. For example, no one should take any government that says that UTVs are unsafe on the road seriously so long as that same government says that motorcycles are perfectly fine.
"20psi... the trick is to not air down too much"? but you can't even say how low it'll go?? i'm at 10psi or less in deep sand, so i'm keeping my 17" beadlocks, they are forged aluminum and they weigh less than the factory toyota steel wheels.
35s work best when they have 5-8psi when offroading. If you are going to drive and only air down to 15PSI better off with skinner tread and taller sidewall (85 series). 35s do look great but in terms of function they only provide the widest tread for traction around 5 psi so to have a 35 without beadlocks is a bit foolish
Most non-beadlocks wheels have too much backspacing and rub the frame, etc on Jeeps. Dirty Life is one of the few wheels that have less than 4” of backspacing. So it’s either spacers, Dirty Life or beadlock?!?
I just switched to beadlocks. I'm tired of my bead slipping off while off roading. I get it if you believe most of your viewers are just new to the sport off roaders but telling all your viewers that beadlocks are not necessary is a bit insincere or could be mis-leading.
The reason beadlocks are not dot approved is because if one bolt comes loose in the beadlock ring, you lose air pressure and “there is a chance to lose all pressure instantly”. Following this, that retainer wheel with the 16 pins to hold the bead? Yeah, because that is going directly into the air chamber of the wheel, technically follows this and therefore the DOT is full of shit. The only actual dot approved beadlock device i have seen is basically an inflatable kevlar tube that sits around the rim that forces the beads out, and squeezes them from the inside, and also acts as a run flat.
How does that 15% stronger compare to proper beadlocks? I imagine well under half. there are certainly budget aluminum beadlocks out there like SideTracked, no clue how well they hold up but they're cheaper than your options. I imagine quality isn't as good.
Dot is stupid. It’s not against the law in any state I know. It won’t matter if you didn’t cause the accident. If you did cause an accident, you’re responsible.
Total lies this is a commercial for them . How does he stand up there and lie. Buy some dot legal bead locks air down to 5 psi and drive right by this guy that will be stuck.
The methods are a great design, but they are ugly! If method could make a wheel that looked like a beadlock, then I might make a change. Until then, I love my Fuel D113’s!
Hutchinson Monster bead-locks are DOT approved.
I love my Hutchinson’s
They are great
Came here to say that, been running them for years. No issues
It’s Hutchinson rock monster line which they sell for the civilian market but yea 100% DOT approved. This guy has them in the video even.
They work great
the inner beadlock system seems to be a possible leak failure point for every bolt/pin in there (16 pins per wheel, 64 possible failure points). O-rings do deteriorate especially exposed to the elements. I like the method wheel option much better.
I have run Raceline beadlocks on my crawler for going on 11 years. Never once had an issue. Highways, daily use and wheeling. Never once has a police officer said a thing about them either. Pinching the bead also helps to keep it from rotating on the wheel. I have had this happen a few times on hot days with sticky tires pre beadlock. Came across this video looking for info on a specific beadlock I’m going to run on my street truck but it didn’t make me think twice. The DOT isnt doing their part to keep the roads up around here so the last thing I’m worried about is their opinion on my wheels.
You are wrong. I still want beadlock wheels.
Illegal and "not DOT approved" are not the same thing. Its a "At your own risk" sort of thing. Just be an adult and own your decisions.
Illegal and "not ATF approved" are not the same thing. It's an "At your own risk" sort of thing. Just be an adult and own your decisions 😂
@@jedwheeler2728fuck the ATF they’re nothing more than tyrants anyway when tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty
Do you know what is illegal and not a risk in the automobile industry in some populous states? No front license plate.
@@Memetologist lol did he not have a license plate or something? 😂
Here in abu dhabi, most people in the clubs run beadlocks. Some can be lighter that stock alloys, and pop outs can get easily mean rolling over. Combined with the fact that bead grips do pop out, and running 8 and even 5 psi is a thing, beadlocks are a great tool for the dunes.
It is not illegal to use beadlock wheels on the road unless the law says you have to use dot approved wheels. Most states do not require this except on commercial vehicles.
Utah requires it. I saw the police checking wheels at EJS.
Utah was the only US state that explicitly states that beadlock wheels are illegal. I am in Virginia, where they are very legal.
No mention of the Hutchinson wheels, which are dot compliant (street legal).
Likely because they don't sell them. These are ads. They are selling a product here, information is just a extra to promote you to buy
@@nicholasbaldwin1674 I kind of get that feeling when I watch there videos. lol
@@corksauve4949 yeah I mean can't knock em they are a business and RUclips is a marketing outlet. Some good information in their videos and also just bias towards the products they sell and promote. Also a lot of click baiting because they start the video with "don't ever xyz and end with nah you really need xyz" 😂
@@nicholasbaldwin1674 agree
I run hutchinson rock monster wheels I've had 3 sets i love those wheels they are street legal but that's not why I run them I'd run standard beadlocks on the road no problem. I don't mind a little extra maintenance and checking the bolts periodically.
Never heard of these types of wheels before. I think you just steered me in the direction I want to go for my wheels
I have the method 701 bead grip and run 10psi with 37x12.5 tires and have never lost the bead great wheels
Awesome. I have also ran them at 10 and 5 psi... 5 PSI was a little too much traction and I was more worried about breaking axles then a bead at that point.
Ummm Hutchinson Rockmonster double beadlock and DOT compliant.
I’ll stick with my Hutchinson beadlock wheels. I can run 0 psi if I choose. Short of shredding the tire to pieces, I have piece of mind my tire is not coming of my rim. AND…….they are DOT compliant.
I bought a set of the ICON Rebound Pro for my 2021 JLUR. Heading to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari 2022 in a couple weeks. Hoping all goes well.
Good luck! We will be there too! Make sure and say HI 😎 🤙
Ill say I'm not a mask crawler so i don't need 20s or bigger. I am not even close to extreme situations where beadlocks have been needed. I bought my methods from method before they hit this site. Most guys i see that run beadlocjs want the look not function. Most guys i see run then only go down to 16psi. At the end of the day we all have our own rides and definitely choices and opinions. I have a set of the method 702 on my 2016 jku that I have had for right at a year. I have had no issues with function or quality. Absolutely will recommend them
Rad! How low of tires pressure have you ran in them?
@@TheycallmeWallyDude I have a 4 door. 37 12.5 17s I had Patagonia mts and didn't have much luck balancing them so used them only offroqd but went down to 12-14. Never a problem. Then went to geolander xats I have went down to 12 on several times with no problems
Hutchinson and Trail Worthy. Well worth the weight, given the ability.
I’m running my bead locks on power wagon 10000miles absolutely no issue also your rim get more stiff with the ring 😊
Good info. I was wondering about my pickup and the ability to continue to pull trailers etc and do light off roading and was undecided on bead lockers.
That Method 701 is beautiful wheel. If I can get my own Jeep I’ll get some. I kept the stock Jeep wheels mostly because my wife won’t let me lift the Jeep and it’s hers. Really digging the black Jeep in the video. It’s is exactly what I want.
I am running a bone stock 2013 JK. Took my wife along on 2 Jeep Jamborees. The second one, we got stuck a lot. At one point, when we were directed to take a bypass, I muttered "this is embarassing", my wife said "We need a lift."
"You are right honey, that is a great idea!"
😉
@@nohandle27 I got my wife a Gladiator and inherited her Willys. Now it has a 2” lift and steelies w/33.5” tires. Help out when off-reloading. RUclips.com/@muddyruttzz
There’s DOT approved beadlocks though I swear I’ve seen em. I have a DOT stamp on mine or the rim not the beadlock ring lol
If you don’t have beadlocks 15PSi very lowest and that’s like a big push . If you got the bead grip tech I wouldn’t go below 13
But let’s just admit that beadlocks look cool and swapping a ring out is much more cheaper than buying a rim or sending to a shop to fix the trail rash
Most of Method's Beadlock rings retail starting at $200 as with most other companies. It's the main reason the wheel is more expensive since it's forged vs cast. With that said I've ran the 701's below ten and had no issues. I was more worried about having too much traction and breaking an axle.
are ICON wheels made in USA? Battleborn wheels are!
Snow wheeling = beadlocks required.
People really need to stop saying they are illegal. They are in fact legal they are just not dot approved.
Great information 👍
There has been DOT beadlocks for along time. I believe centerline had the first DOT approved beadlock I ever saw...I would say around 04-05? In petersons 4wheel and offroad magazine on a blue K5 blazer with prerunner fenders
I have the icons with maxxis razor 37s ATs . No problems with leaks and if you have issues with O rings, you zip the stud out and replace! It’s an o ring ! How much would they cost! It’s a non issue! $800 a wheel for rock monsters is stupid, for occasional off road. I can air down to 3 psi and I don’t lose a tire, no brained!
I’ve seen a few complaints about the icon rebound pros concerning the retention bolts rusting in a very short period. Have you seen this?
We have not. When we talked with their engineers we were assured they were chemically treated to eliminate any rust issues.
@@TrailBuilt interesting. I’ve been on the fence between the icons and method 700 series. I like the idea behind the Icons, but the rust worries me
@@Endgame392 Put anti Seize?
@@JonFox1945 I bought the Icons. The rust isn’t on the threads, but on the cap. These bolts are so tight going in that it chips the paint on the bolt, allowing it to rust.
@@Endgame392 Any recommendation or avoid these all together?
The new method wheels with the bead grip have been tested down to 1 psi without a blowout - unless you are doing super hardcore wheeling i see no need for a true beadlock anymore.
Staz works double bead locks are street legal because the lug nuts are part of the 2 part clamping not just the 32 bolts
My aluminum beadlocks were lighter than my steel wheels by like 8lb.
kinda ironic right? when you hit something on the wheel cracks your tires are done anyways, same with beadlocks or not. I mean dont most beadlocks run like 12-24 bolts or are those all just by design? correct me if i am wrong.
Great video guys, well explained 👏
Thank you! 😎 🤙
Battle born gate keeper beadlocks is the way to go 250 a rim they come with a second set of rings and they’re steel yes I know steel is heavy but man when an alloy rim gets cracked or you take huge chunks out of the bead from hitting a rock you’re goin to snap that rim as soon as it gets on a tire machine to put a new tire on it
Steel you can bend it back and it won’t crack and snap
Beadlock rims are not illegal in Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦 FYI. Dirty life Roadkill rims are amazing by the way.
Canada gets to have all the fun I swear 😂
I run 13 psi on my 701s and never an issue. There is a vid where a guy ran them @ 0 and ran them hard and they still held. I wouldn't worry.
The best thing about beadlocks, you can change your tires yourself, very easy to throw a new tire on!
Gas mileage is true, I get at most 6 miles per gallon with my 4.7 stroker build. Mind you this is premium gas.
Wow, your 6 is worse than my 9…..and I have a 4.6 Stroker motor as well.
How tf are you getting that bad of mpg? I have a 4.8 and average 13 on the highway. Did you regear? Auto or manual?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't different tires have different bead thicknesses? How does that work with the Icon system?
You are correct and the wheel would be allowed to move in that system and potentially leak or shift not to mention rotate on the wheel.
Beadlock not being dot cause of bolts breaking kinda like the studs holding rim on
Hutchinson’s Rock Monsters are DOT approved
How is Ford or Dodge selling trucks with OEM beadlock wheels if they aren't DOT approved? Are they a faux beadlock ring?
They are set up for dual mounting. They sell it to you mounted like a regular wheel would BUTTTTT you can then dismount them and remount them using the beadlock ring and then they aren't highway legal any longer.
They're "beadlock capable". You have to purchase the true bead lock rings separately. They sell the vehicles with beauty rings (or fake beadlock rings) that are non-functional.
Beadlock everything
the methods and icon bolt patterns are limited, i haven't seen any 5 x 5.5 for CJs
I have the same lug pattern and a video of mine running them. Maybe your thinking of offset?
@@TheycallmeWallyDude Agreed, they don't show any 5 x 5.5 for us CJ guys. What rim are you running?
@@carnellc Method offers the MR701, 703, 704, & 706 in the 5x5.5" bolt patter that would work on the Cj's. but only in a 17". I was running the MR701s
@@TheycallmeWallyDude thanks for that info!!! Super helpful as I decide what direction I go with my wheels/rims
You didn’t mention Second air bead locks.
Bronze wheels look like shit once they’re rock rubbed. Aluminum finish does not.
Hi.
I am going to install IMS suspension with 2" lift and 30mm spacers.
My tire size is 265/65/R17
I hope this is sufficient to prevent any rollovers.
There are DOT certified beadlocks. Something which does not exist is DOT certified LED headlights.
There is DOT approved LED headlights though.
@@bryanmayes9234 There are now. There wasn't when I posted that.
Four-wheelers should bring back innertubes.
Hutchinson bead locks are dot approved
There are legal bedlocks for public roads
You can use duct tape on the inside of the wheel instead of paying extra for a "bead retention system". Failed to mention that info...maybe because wheel sponsors won't make money.
But I waaant beadlock wheeelsssa.
I LMMFAO about people who run beadocks and never ever take them offroad
So...the inner bead never fails on beadlocks???????????
Typically the force applied to the tires sidewall is applied to the outer edge. It would be rare that most of the vehicles weight is hanging on the inner bead. With that said the beadgrip wheels have beadgrip on both inner and outer sides.
@@TheycallmeWallyDude Good explanation, thanks. I have a set of bead grips waiting for my lazy butt to install.
They do but generally only below 5psi
So it’s illegal because when you get in to an accident it could cause an accident…. That sounds like typical government logic…
Every state has their different version of requirement standards for vehicles, but I'm wondering also what the federal requirements are for vehicles other than passenger *cars* when it pertains to modified wheel track, bumper width, bumper length, mudflaps and fenders? Most off-road vehicles here in Southern Utah have a ridiculous amount of the tire width sticking out past factory and/or modified fenders, no mudflaps - and especially on the front of Jeeps in particular - a ridiculously narrow front bumper, which merely serves as a mount for a winch and some D-ring shackles.
Most vehicles run these bead-lock rims off-road, but then run them on our local streets, highways and even the Interstate. The excuse seems to be; That because this is a 'tourist' mecca - rental companies make big money on UTV's. These UTV's are allowed to run on city streets and highways with none of the aforementioned restrictions / concerns, so officials let trucks, SUV's, Jeeps, etc operate in non-compliance with local and state safety requirements.
Everyone seems to have an attitude of entitlement these days and don't respond kindly to telling them (or even gently reminding them) what they can or cannot do. Any attempts to explain the logic behind the concern for safety - not only for themselves, but especially for all the others they share the road with - always falls on deaf ears.
So true
Thanks Karen
@@fredeschen3783 de nada, Mari
🤣😂🤣👆👆
Because 90% of the time the rules saying you can't do something are stupid and make no sense. For example, no one should take any government that says that UTVs are unsafe on the road seriously so long as that same government says that motorcycles are perfectly fine.
"20psi... the trick is to not air down too much"? but you can't even say how low it'll go?? i'm at 10psi or less in deep sand, so i'm keeping my 17" beadlocks, they are forged aluminum and they weigh less than the factory toyota steel wheels.
35s work best when they have 5-8psi when offroading. If you are going to drive and only air down to 15PSI better off with skinner tread and taller sidewall (85 series). 35s do look great but in terms of function they only provide the widest tread for traction around 5 psi so to have a 35 without beadlocks is a bit foolish
Most non-beadlocks wheels have too much backspacing and rub the frame, etc on Jeeps. Dirty Life is one of the few wheels that have less than 4” of backspacing. So it’s either spacers, Dirty Life or beadlock?!?
So ford has released the raptors with beadlock capable wheels that are illegal? Smh
I just switched to beadlocks. I'm tired of my bead slipping off while off roading. I get it if you believe most of your viewers are just new to the sport off roaders but telling all your viewers that beadlocks are not necessary is a bit insincere or could be mis-leading.
The reason beadlocks are not dot approved is because if one bolt comes loose in the beadlock ring, you lose air pressure and “there is a chance to lose all pressure instantly”.
Following this, that retainer wheel with the 16 pins to hold the bead? Yeah, because that is going directly into the air chamber of the wheel, technically follows this and therefore the DOT is full of shit.
The only actual dot approved beadlock device i have seen is basically an inflatable kevlar tube that sits around the rim that forces the beads out, and squeezes them from the inside, and also acts as a run flat.
How does that 15% stronger compare to proper beadlocks? I imagine well under half.
there are certainly budget aluminum beadlocks out there like SideTracked, no clue how well they hold up but they're cheaper than your options. I imagine quality isn't as good.
Legal in my state, why the hell would they be illegal?
20psi is like not even aired down.
Dot is stupid. It’s not against the law in any state I know. It won’t matter if you didn’t cause the accident. If you did cause an accident, you’re responsible.
Not Road legal? Laughs in Florida 😂
Is anything illegal in Florida?
SAND
Total lies this is a commercial for them . How does he stand up there and lie. Buy some dot legal bead locks air down to 5 psi and drive right by this guy that will be stuck.
I never seen so much BS in a infomercial before.
Fuel mileage who cares why is it even a thing
Smiles per gallon not miles per gallon.
So basically, they are better, but illegal. Thank you government, you ruin yet another good thing.
Whaaaaat! I don't need beadlocks? But everyone is running them these days because it's so cool. You don't know what your talking about. Lmao.
Nope! And we will still think you're cool...
The methods are a great design, but they are ugly! If method could make a wheel that looked like a beadlock, then I might make a change. Until then, I love my Fuel D113’s!
This guy is just nut riding, nothing wrong with beadlocks if you run them correctly.
Icon need to pull their fingers out and offer more than a zero offset wheel! Useless
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