The BEST Way To Record GUITAR
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2019
- I learned the best micing technique from producer Dann Huff in Nashville. Here's how the pro's record guitars in Nashville. In this video I'm using a Royer R-121 and Shure SM57 combined with the new SM-21 Mic clip. Read about it here: http:/www.thexclip.com
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Someone went up to Chet Atkins and said, "That guitar sounds really good!" Chet put the guitar in it's stand and said, "How does it sound now?"
Nuff said 😎
Like a mic drop. With a guitar. But not dropping it.
He was the man
Chet Atkins: "When I was a little boy, I told my dad: "When I grow up I want to be a musician." He replied: "You can't do both, son."
Mr. Guitar🔥
Thanks but my iPhone pressed against my solid state Marshall will have to do for now 😂
and it's not even against the the cab, I bet
@@tehultimateshreddar it's on the table near it
Hey man get it done!
Hey man if you wanna record through your amp buy yourself a cheap irig and 6.55mm to 1/4 cable and plug it into the headphone socket on your amp to the irig and boom its not great but it works
@@nathanadnitt whats an irig?
Hands down my favorite mic combo of all time.
I LOVE these organic, unprocessed, natural and classic guitar tones.
anthony silva RUclips puts compression on their vids regardless of the quality it’s uploaded in
Jacob Barber I know
I don't see what is natural in any electric guitar sound ;c)
By the way using this particular speaker with this particular mics placed in that particular place and feeding them into that particular type of mic preamp and finally mixing those ... all this is actually a tone of processing !!!
This processing as became classic because it's a combination that works really well, but it's by no mean natural nor unprocessed.
Just my 2cts...
@@lolaa2200 It's less about the actual sound as it is about the recording being transparent. Most people want their recording to sound as close as possible to the way it did live in the room, which is very difficult since the diaphragms in mics have mass and the other electronics have their own properties which will color the sound. So when someone says "natural" they mean it sounds like an electric guitar and not a recording of an electric guitar.
@@jacobbarber3131 But that's presisely done the oposit way here !! Both SM57 and the R121 are known to be the non transparent kind of microphone. Large diaphragme condencer mics would have been much more suite to get a transparent recording. What about field recording mics or even measure mics ? But those chosen here are at the opposite of the transparency spectrum. Then you feed both into 1073 preamps, those are preamps famous for how nicely they COLOR the sound, not at all transparent. I'm pretty sure Rick have some nice SSL or focusrite preamp he might reach his hand down to if he wanted a transparent recording. But he choose neve clones for a reason.
What is shown here is the classical rock studio recording chain, it's not about sounding exactly like how you would hear the amp would you be in the room ! Not at all, it's about getting a classic rock sound. And yes it sound pretty damn good, that's precisely why it became classic !!!!!
And moreover this might not even be the best guitar sound if you want just a guitar solo. It's one that is made to sound killer in a mix with a whole rock band. Why does rick use a low frequency rollof on the pre's ? To leave room for the bass guitar and drum bass to breath in a typical rock band mix ! A real electric guitar amp does have some subharmonics under 80Hz, but you don't want them to ruin the rest of the band.
And you could go further up the signal chain, the choice of guitars/pickups, the choice of amp, the choice of speaker, ... Every pieces of gear shown here are all famous for the special coloration they bring in, none for transparency.
All the gear/processing shown here are nowhere near transparent and that's precisely the point ! Talking about transparent recording in this particular case is totally missing the point !
Hey Rick I was a sound tech on tour with a major pop star who had Nuno playing in the band(crazy, I know). We used a 421/57 combination which was pretty awesome, and didn’t have to worry about babying the ribbon mic. We bent a couple z-bars to sit together between the head and the cab, same place every show to eliminate the mic stand fuss(although the 421 clip is a little finicky). The 121/57 combo is what I learned in the studio where I did time and you really can’t match the warmth of the Royer... but I wouldn’t take one out of the studio. Thanks Rick for the awesome stuff- you rock!
A $99 mic and a $1300 mic walk into a bar...
Got stuck together?
The third one ducks
Dang this was a really in depth video. Thanks man, always love your content! So helpful
Rick, you're amazing. You've covered so much in the music industry. Thank you and appreciated.
Here's what I love about Rick, Rhett & Dave when doing these videos, i always learn something...Not worried too much about recording as the frequency is less compared to live gigs. Hate direct to board from amp as your missing the sound of the speaker(s). Btw, both played so clean, so well done...
I could never imagine that Luke Skywalker's lightsaber sounds that awesome in front of a Hiwatt speaker.
Awesome videos dude! Always look forward to a new one
I cannot believe that this clip is a NEW thing. I was like 'WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE". The 121 and SM57 are such a great combo
The 121 takes to EQ beautifully!
Try a single TUL mic…change your life😮
Been waiting for this! ;)
Would love to see a video about Rick Hall and the muscle shoals sound.
I would love to see that, too!
Amen to that............love to see one on the Bakersfield sound, too.
For anyone wondering this, there's a 10/10 documentary on it simply called "Muscle Shoals"
Gerard Geer it’s one of my favorite documentaries of all time. I’m just wondering if Rick has any stories or cool facts about that period. Or if he met anyone associated with it.
I went to the premier of the Muscle Shoals film. Both Rick Hall and Jimmy Johnson were there and took questions afterwards. I asked Rick if he compressed and eqed to tape. He talked about compressing the 2 track master mix. He knew the owner of the local radio station. When he would get done mixing a single, Rick would take the mix down to the radio station. His friend would play it over the air for him. Rick would sit in his car and listen to what the station compressor was doing to the mix and then go back and adjust the compression on the master accordingly.
I cant wait till you get a Million Subs. You Deserve It. Thanks Rick.
Amazing video! Rick was so lucky to have learned from Dann Huff. Huff is an amazing producer, session guitarist, and of course guitarist of Giant. Watching this video also tells me where the Dann Huff's sound was coming from, and it is an amazing sound.
Giant's first two albums, Last Of The Runaways and Time To Burn were phenomenal. I have never understood how that band didn't become HUGE.
Just wanted to say how much I’m enjoying this channel! You’re doing a great job and providing a great service. I’m s late comer and found you just recently through 5 Watt World.
I’m a handful of years older than you, Rick, and can really relate to all of your stories and memories of the music biz ! You’ve put me in nostalgia mode. I’ve had the wonderful experience to have worked with some amazing fellow Canadian producers and at some of this country’s best studios, back in the day - Jack Richardson, Bob Ezrin at Nimbus Nine, Thunder Sound, Morgan Earl, all near the “beginning” of things, and Alex Fraser and Ben Richardson (no relation) at Liquid Sound and even Garth Richardson (Jack’s son!) live at festivals, all near the “end” of things.
I stopped recording for $ about three yrs after Pro Tools became ubiquitous.
Loving your posts! And look forward to my bell ringing!
Peace
So for those of us without a fully-stocked mic closet, the takeaway would be to setup a mic with a punchy sound and a mic with a smooth sound, get them in-phase, and blend to taste?
Yes :)
Great to see a tracking/production video again! ... very informative ...thanks Rick!
One of the best guitar tones I ever tracked was with SM57 and a Beyerdynamic M160. Similar to the 121, 57 vibe, but without the figure 8 polar pattern of the 121 picking up the room.
"When I record guitars I always go with the royer"... just like me, because everybody has 1500 euros to buy one... second hand T_T
That was amazing to see and hear. I love the reproduction of the ribbon mikes. It would be interesting to see how little a difference in positioning between the mikes affects the phase difference.
BTW, I bought the Beato book the other day, it's going to take me a long way, thanks Rick.
Fantastic! Invaluable information! Thank you Rick!
I went to the premier of the Muscle Shoals film. Both Rick Hall and Jimmy Johnson were there and took questions afterwards. I asked Rick if he compressed and eqed to tape. He talked about compressing the 2 track master mix. He knew the owner of the local radio station. When he would get done mixing a single, Rick would take the mix down to the radio station. His friend would play it over the air for him. Rick would sit in his car and listen to what the station compressor was doing to the mix and then go back and adjust the compression on the master accordingly.
This is THE SOUND! Thanks and all the best from Poland! Mike
Dude, just hearing these raw tones with miked up amps sound awesome (as opposed to all the amp sims/plugins we now have) - it's just a refreshing sound and tone
I love learning from you guys!
"at the end of the day 57 always wins" - Gary Holt XD
Got the Combo and the Clip - tried it this morning - as you said: KILLER! Thx for this great content of yours 🔥👍🏻🤟 always a pleasure to watch and a lot to learn!
my solution for the dual mic on one stand is to use a "8"/20cm Dual Speedlite Camera Mount Tripod Bracket Flash Extension Bar,8" Dual Tripod Bracket" I found on Amazon.
Simply a flat 8" metal bar with oblong holes allowing for 1/4 or 3/8 mount screws for the mic holder and the center attaches to mic stand. The oblong holes allow sliding to adjust the distance of mics from each other.
Usually used for cameras and flash, but works nicely for a two mic, one stand solution.
This one video should be mandatory viewing for recording guitarists. That is the true sound of electric guitar to me. Great overview!
Another handy mic clip is the Fredman clip. It holds two 57s one on axis and the other at a 55 degree off axis angle. You can blend to taste. Really great for metal guitars.
thanks for doing this! i was just researching this sound
Loved the guitarist's playing, riff, and groove. I can tell he can rock!
I will be ordering one of those clips and watching this vid again when it arrives, I'm sure. More like this, Rick, please!
Thanks. You've got so many great videos.
I totally dig the mic'ing lesson!!! One little nit, that's actually "polarity" rather than phase. Although it is commonly referred to as phase, when the signal waveform is completely inverted, that's polarity. Phase is more subtle, referring to waveform differences of less than 180-degrees, which introduce a lot of subtle changes, particularly in overtone peaks and valleys. The distances are a lot bigger than most people think. The wavelength of A-440 is 78cm, inversion happens at 39cm. (try it with a point source, sine generator and a dead room!) The fun of mic placement is because these interactions become amazingly complex from a math standpoint and the ear is the best judge of the characters.
So far over my head… But as always, immensely enjoyable. Thank you!
Great Stuff Rick. More great vid’s like this please.
Hey! I have an sm57 already and love it but that duo mic sounds great let me go on amazon and order one! *sees $1.150*... T_T im goin to bed..
I did the same thing... but then I found the Royer R10. It’s easily just as good, just a slightly different sound. I would highly recommend that one for $500
Same... Literally.. Haha
Great information Rick and Rhett...I have a Shure 57 for recording guitar..."live"...from the amp...the other mics are pretty spendy for a "weekend warrior"...great to see Dave get in there and get it done...I am old school...and so much enjoy learning things from yous guys...cheers!
Great video. Always enjoy these small enhancements that we can overlook.
Loved this video. Learned a lot.
You’re the man to go to for a video like this so when I did a search in your video came up in the results, this is the first video I watched.
Thanks for this, really useful info
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Another excellent video; I Learned a lot.
I saw Dan Huff play with a band he was in called White Heart back in the 80's. The he really took of with his band Giant. Great player.
He was also the guitarist on a lot of Unguarded.
i dug giant way back when
(Starts checking reverb for 121s used) !!! Thanks love these kinds of videos too!
More brilliance from the only Beato that matters. Thank you Sir!
And thanks for soling the tracks, so we could hear what each mic was bringing.
Great video as always Rick ✌️
Some nice Rush/Journey vibes on that riff Dave played with the Les Paul! Awesome video!
Loved this one!
Excellent vid as always. Great players also.
The Royer sounds lovely. The combo is great.
Amazing Rick, thank you!
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Rick for the tips!
LOVED this video, I'm for sure going to get this mic combo (I already have the Sm57! )
Instantly clicked on the thumbnail as soon as I've spotted it on a main page, thanks for the showcase!
Relevant technical discussion, very nice thank you.
Just got my first 121. Couldn't wait to try it on my Deluxe with a 57 and it did not disappoint.
You're amazing, Rick!
More videos on recording/production techniques please! Much appreciated!
4:16 Playing some spirit of radio but we're too scared of copyright demonetization so just strum it out!
@@joejoesoft I love this channel so much
Sounded a lot like "Stone In Love" to me.
"Spirit of Radio" and Aerosmith's "Mama Kin" had a baby - and then the Eagles "Already Gone" showed up at the end.
@@tisbonus If you are a guitar player, pick up your guitar and play a few quick strums of G, then D, and then the top notes of G, then a full G with the following notes moving around in the bass: C, B (on A string) and G (on the E string). You're playing "Stone In Love"! :)
I don't think Rick is scared of demonetisation so much as frustrated.
Great Video! Please keep the recording/tracking tutorials coming!
Great video, as they always are Rick
Great video thanks dudes!
that's amazing, i didn't know about the tradition of these mics used together but the 57 and 121 are the exactly combination i've used in my amp simulator (Amplitube) for years now just because they sound very good, ...i guess that's a point to the software engineers though.
Sounded great!
VERY INFORMATIVE, as usual
Great video Rick!
Love the K&M stands
Hey Dave rocking the Thin Lizzy T shirt. Yes I am old school rocker. Thanks for showing us the Nashville guitar sound. Pure genius on the two mic holder. 👍 Unlike some things you buy at the store, you wonder how the heck it ever made it into production.
Rick heard about this around 2009, which was back then already the default how they mic guitars. So this problem is maybe 20 years old. But now, engineers answered the problem with a high tech clip. Just wow ;)
Awesome stuff!
Rick and Rhett, the dream team
Love that mic clip! Need one.
Nice tone and impecabble playing. Great riff
nice combination, i didnt have the oportunity to use a Royer but one combination i love is the sm57 with a akg 414 maybe a more aggressive setup but it cuts nice in the mix
I bought one of the new Royer R-10s because it is half the price of the 121 yet gets pretty close to the 121 tone wise (in my opinion). I record all my electric guitars pretty much exactly like you demonstrated, though: R-10 and a 57 through a 1073 clone (Warm Audio WA-273). I sure hope Royer makes a similar clip for the R-10, because the two stand struggle is real!
I dig that new clip. That's a really cool idea.
Well I got the 57 part of the process right - I mic'd up both speakers of my amp, a 57 on the bottom right speaker and a Beta 58a on the top left speaker and when I put them together it sounded like HOLY FIRE. Now I know I need a 121 for my next album, this sounds crazy good
I have a old stereo Electret Condesner mic by Realistic that is powered by 1 AA battery. It is a cool and unique sound and helps avoid the phase issues.
Sounds totally amazing
Chet Atkins shook the change in his pocket and said,"...that's the sound of Nashville..$$$."
Basically broke?
@@TheChadPad I thought he meant it as in the sound of money (rich)... I would imagine Chet would be pretty damn wealthy with all his accolades and involvement in so many projects/productions
@@charliedavis8447 You're correct, that's exactly what Chet meant. He said various different versions of the same thing. In an interview he once said, "It was the sound of money" but I also heard him say one time that maybe he took "the polish" a little too far on those records.
🤣
My band and I make music , it’s surf rock and other kinds of stuff check it out
Was hoping to see Dann Huff. Dude rocks
Excellent video. Thanks for posting. We’re there any boost or drive pedals used on the guitars while tracking? Both sounded so full and rich with the Hi-Watt.
Rhett is such a killer guitar player. Love that dude.
Thanks Rick!
Very cool demo! My own fav mic combo is an EV RE15 with a Beyer M130 (the figure-of-eight mic, not the cardiod M160). It’s a more neutral sound than the 57/Royer combo-almost no proximity effect-but I’m playing mostly on the clean side of things. Yet it’s not too clinical like a condenser mic can be. The 57/Royer combo sure is terrific for rock & roll!
Sounds great! I learned this method from a Royer/Ross Hogarth/ Tim Pierce video a while back. It's the closest to the "in the room" sound. I use a Shure KSM313 in place of the 121 though. It's a super unique ribbon. I prefer the 57 on the cap/cone edge, and the ribbon on the cap. It's a great high gain sound.
Sweet Info with examples! A Golden Nugget!
i've recorded with pedal direct to sonic box to computer and it sounded great, but the pro's always have a pro way to do it,that dual stand is pretty cool!!
An interview with Dann Huff as a guitarist would be great!!!
Those two are just mint🤘👍cheers Rick
I don't have a 121, but I've been doing this with an AEA R84 and 57 and get great results. A little trick that sounds good to me is AEA on the perimeter of speaker at a 45 degree angle back towards the cone and 57 right next to it straight the speaker. Blend levels instead of EQ.
Great video Rick. :)
thanks Rick the best
That Mic Clip is Genius but so simple you have to ask yourself why hadn't it been done before. It is not as if a dual mic set up is unheard of. As a future idea for a topic just how under appreciated Shure Mics have been lately. Just the SM 57 and 58 alone are worth a mention for live work. Condensers are great but are also Feedback Machines in a lot of live set ups. I don't record sound but I do help out with the Sound at Church when they get over their head with things like Mixer Repair, New Cables and Connectors, Getting rid of 60 cycle hum etc. Love your videos they are Great, Keep Em Coming. Thanks a lot.