“ PROCEED AND REPORT ” 1943 RESTRICTED U.S. NAVY OFFICER PROCEDURES & CUSTOMS TRAINING FILM 78044
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This U.S. Navy indoctrination film "Proceed and Report" opens with a note informing viewers it was initially to be shown to authorized personnel only (:10). It was produced under the supervision of the Bureau of Aeronautics by Warner Brothers Pictures Inc. (:22). The film was created with the intention to update newly commissioned officers with Navy customs and procedures. It follows the antics of an ill-equipped senior officer as he incorrectly behaves. Throughout the film proper procedure is discussed by narration. NAS Pensacola School is pictured with a long stream of trainee pilots and officers marching in (1:07). The tour first visits the administration building (1:09). Two officers exit with deployment papers (1:17). The Third Officer packs for deployment aboard ship (2:07). Four uniforms are selected (2:17). His peer throws the leaving man’s flight gear at him as he must also bring this (2:23). The well informed officer explains pay accounts, medical records and other vital information is available in the ‘Navy Reg;’ Navy Regulations (2:46). Murphy realizes he has ten days of leave time (3:17). He leaps from a cab to board a train just in time (3:26). He meets with a Second Officer; Williams (4:09). Both discuss final destinations (4:14). Officer Williams admits he is only eight weeks in (4:37). He questions when to salute other personnel (4:50). The Third Officer responds with jokes (4:50). Rank is discussed (5:04) as both cuff sleeves and gold stripes are visible to viewers. A train conductor appears (5:04). Murphy leaps up for a salute believing him to be a captain due to his three gold strips (5:07). The train whizzes through the night (5:18) over the Golden Gate bridge in San Francisco (5:21). The pair report to the commandant (5:32) upon arrival. The narrator pauses the film to show a breach of etiquette (5:36). A junior should not walk on a senior’s right (5:42). They enter Twelfth Naval District; headquartered in San Francisco since 1903 (5:45). Williams is assigned to Mare Island (6:06). They salute as they part ways (6:25). Murphy arrives at the Navy Landing (6:41) for the officer’s boat. The film mentions junior officers must enter boats ahead of seniors (7:25). He slips into the front (7:40) noticing the rest of the boat is crammed. Murphy also sparks up a cigarette which he is not to do (7:49). He throws the butt to the ground (7:52). As they exit the boat (8:06) seniors lead the juniors. The Quarter deck is saluted (8:15). Murphy mentions a trunk which he is expecting to be delivered (8:47). Murphy shakes hands with the Commander (9:12) and gives him his orders. Lieutenant Johnson enters (9:36) and takes Murphy to see the Captain. Both men remove their hats as they enter (10:08). They head to the Ward Room (11:01) where the narrator explains strict rules exist here. Murphy pays the mess bill (11:59) and the mess share (12:11). Murphy is taken to his room (13:00). Murphy removes his jacket (13:29) and heads for the ship deck (13:36) smiling and sparking up a cigarette. The narrator stops Murphy, informing him he broke multiple rules (14:10). Murphy reemerges with jacket and hat still on (14:23). He salutes as he approaches the quarterdeck (14:26). Other rules include keeping hands from pants pockets (14:36), colors of socks and uniform must match and smoking is also prohibited. He salutes a senior officer (14:44). His trunk is tossed into the water (14:52). The narrator informs the viewers a crate or carton must be used (15:04). Specific times are set for meal times (15:24). Murphy is informed the Captain will be in attendance and that he must stand up whenever the captain addresses him (15:58). The Captain enters (16:14). Proper seating is discussed (16:20). Proper etiquette is discussed (16:39). They enjoy coffee at the meal’s end (16:53). The Captain stands to address the hall (17:10). Murphy sands as the Captain mentions his name (17:19). The Captain asks him to remain seated (17:20). The Captain reinforces the idea that Navy Customs and regulations must be upheld (18:13). This film was presented by the Bureau of Aeronautics (18:20).
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Remember that a ship at sea can seem like a lonely place. Far away from land. Far away from family. Far away from humanity. In the days of sail, one could know who was walking past their bunk based on smell alone. It’s a unique working / living environment, high population density, high testosterone, little personal space, industrial setting for work / living / social / personal.
Even as ships routine can become very consistent, the emotions can become inconsistent based on factors listed above. The traditions give a consistent discipline, hopefully keeping order and keeping the command mission ready.
How about the Bosun's driving the boats in their dress blues!? Never saw that happen.
Also they were pretty casual about boarding the ship. We had to stop in front of the OOD, do a right or left face, salute the Ensign (the US flag with just the star field), and say "Request permission to come aboard sir"!
We'd say "sir" even if the OOD was a Chief or First Class PO.
There was nothing casual about this routine.
Learning to fly an F6F or TBM must have been easy compared to learning the shipboard etiquette!
You've got to love them tossing the guy's steamer trunk over the side while the ship's in port! Only in 1943!!🤣
Many don't realize that officers don't get anything for free. They pay their mess bill out of pocket and well as for uniforms. While enlisted receive everything at no charge. When you join ships company as an enlisted E-1 thru E-3 you have to pull one 90 day temporarily assigned duty (TAD) and that's usually working the mess decks. They call it KP duty in the Army. But other services need to be filled as well. The last place you want to get is the laundry. The best duty is working for the officers wardroom, which is what I got. I took care of all the officers state rooms, their laundry and dry cleaning and all their bedding like sheets, blankets, pillows etc. I had a master key for every room on the ship except the captain, the XO and the department heads. Those were a separate job. My favorite part was that when the air wing was not aboard, there were dozens of empty staterooms. I would take one for myself. My normal berthing compartment was crammed with 100 guys like sardines in a can. Having your own private room was a luxury.
Way to go.
They don't get anything for free, but get paid 5-6x enlisted of same experience.
@@thomasjefferson5727Hehe I guess it's all relative. if you're bringing home $3000 a month (after taxes) but have to pay a measily $200 a month for meals and a one time $400 for your uniforms, that's still $2800 a month ignoring the one time uniform fee. Everyone else making $1600 a month but getting food and board for free, you're still making $1200 more than everyone else.
Both get paid for food. The money is deducted back from enlisted personnel that eat at the chow hall. Officers don’t have to eat at the chow hall so they use the money for groceries, or they pay to eat at the chow hall.
US Navy retired! 1982-2003. USS Semmes DDG 18, USS Cape Cod AD 43, USS Kinkaid DD 965, USS Whidbey Island LSD 41, USS Wasp LHD 1, Operations Specialist A School FCTCLANT Dam Neck Virginia, COMUSNAVCENT Bahrain, and Fleet Information Warfare Center Little Creek Amphibious Base VA.
I was stationed at NAS Whidbey Island for about a year and didn't know there was an LSD of that name until I saw your comment.
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I LOVE IT
My dad would of had to watch this in 1942
If he's still with us, please give him my thanks for his service.
Steve B He might've watched a different film, this one is from 1943.
@@G.Freeman92 What are you talking about? "Would of had to" is perfectly acceptable English.
Fred Behrend It's acceptable to the level that anyone who isn't a braindead idiot can understand what it means. You need to find something better to do with your time than correct people's grammar in the comment section of World War Two training films.
I can se why this was restricted information. Imagine a Japanese midget submarine bringing an agent ashore and having him get onto that launch. Since he knows all of the reporting, customs and procedures, once he's aboard the USS Iowa...well, I hate to imagine what havoc might ensue. Even worse, the Japanese agent might not pay his $15 mess bill and the wardroom budget might not balance!
kristov29 - Being a well trained, thoroughly informed agent, he of course would arrive completely prepared to pay his Mess Bill in American currency, get 10% off his Cigars and Cokes, and contribute his share to the fund set up to cover fluctuating costs of meals. About $37.50 from this particular example for 1943.
But weren't all such charges already handled by the basic military budget? Surely the enlisted men were not billed in actual dollars for the cost of their food? But, for officers having to pay out of their pocket for such basic items hardly seems like an advantage of being commissioned. I understand they had to bear a large part of the cost of other items such as uniforms and so forth, as well.
Although why it was described as a fund set up to cover future increases AND decreases in the cost of meals still escapes me. The decrease in costs should not require additional funds, unless he means simply a place to put it if the charges decrease, (which is unlikely, given the already high cost of waging war in general) and there needs to be a place to store the overage.
Officers receive a one-time initial uniform allowance which is fairly insignificant, and non-taxable Basic Allowance for Subsistence monthly. Beyond that BAS, Officers' meals are not funded ashore or afloat... costs to restock food while underway or in foreign port fluctuates, particularly in wartime, when deployment schedules are not known far in advance. Enlisted are provided meals and uniforms. signed, Satisfied Customer, LCDR US Navy Retired (17 years ago)!
P.S., Trunks and other large items were routinely thrown over the side, a little 'welcome to the real fleet' for the smartass new Ensigns, hence the smirks beforehand!
Patricia McGill - Firstly, thank you for your service! 👍 (Renders snappy salute! I still remember how from my High School AFJROTC days! 😉 I worked out 3 years of academics in 2 years, because the high school I went to my Sophomore year (1972) was still struggling it's way out of the chauvinistic dark ages and wasn't taking girls! 😲 And it was a brand new high school! But the instructors were still "old school," even though the USAAF had women in it since WWII, and well before the Air Corps was a separate service! Anyway, I made a lot of the right noises in the right people's ears, and it was definitely co-ed by the beginning of the next year! I moved away after the end of that year, and ended up in another school where their program was already co-ed since the beginning! I was there the last two years of high school, worked my tail off, did 3 years of academic work in two, made 1st female officer (2nd Lt then 1st Lt) in the corps history, and had my own all female drill team my Senior year! I WAS going into the USAF of course, and was supposed to depart MEPS with a stripe on my sleeve already. I also had aced all sections of the ASVABs except mechanics, which I only missed by one question. They even offered me the opportunity to retake it to see if I could improve it, but I said no thanks - I had what I needed for the jobs I was interested in taking up, so I let it be. Got all through the physical, until we got to the eye test, where 1/4 of a damned diopter did me in! The limit was -5.00, and I was -5.25!! No waivers, and I didn't even want to be a pilot! Anyway - enough of my life! Sorry to get bogged down in my life - this is supposed to be about you!
Where were you stationed during your enlistment? Ever make it to Norfolk, Virginia or close to there? What was yput;vvvvvv6v
A lot of these videos were for official use only until recently when they were declassified and made publicly available since nothing anyone gains from the videos would affect any current situations nor change the past. It kind of shows the origin of such customs and a "perspective" on how things were at the time, but a lot of the training back then still applies to this day because it was sound in logic then and still sound now, even as technology advances and sides change. Though it is unfortunate to hear and see volatile language and actions that wouldn't have been appropriate even at the time (they joke a LOT about how their racism was justified because of the nature of the war, but hindsight's 20/20). But when they're not making other cultures look like idiots (thus diminishing the value of the lives ACTUALLY lost during the war by making us look stupid), the training itself is on point.
5:20 Well golly, no one can possibly figure THIS out! 🤣😭
XD Hollywood just wants to be like New York, the target of every raid in movieland. XD
Many of the customs are still the same.
Also: When the aviator boards the ship, why do he and the other ensign call each other "sir"? Aren't they of the some rank (ensign)? Is this just a custom when boarding?
All Ensigns are addressed as Sir. All other higher ranks are addressed by their rank. Thats Navy custom.
This is the U.S Navy, would would the Royal Navy be like?
Probably much the same. The U.S. Navy inherited all that from the Royal Navy
So it was a "restricted" film ?
What for, because of the risk teaching the enemy to be polite ?
Any information about or customs and movements could be useful for spies. If an enemy knows things like how our promotions work and how we refer to each other, it's much easier for them to hide in plain sight. An enemy or spy recognizing the insignia and knowing how to refer to higher ups would blend in seamlessly, but you hear someone on the ship call a petty officer "Sir" or salute a non-commissioned officer, it'll draw attention to them. Sometimes the best way to get an enemy to reveal themselves is to watch for the guy overdoing it.
Another question: How come the newer officer on the train, who say's he's only been in the Navy for 8 weeks, is already a lieutenant and he outranks the aviator who's been in for 8 months but is an ensign? Thanks!
He's probably qualified in some useful skill and was bumped up in rank to take on a position where he'd be most useful. Stuff like construction engineers joining up as Majors to command engineering companies.
Yeah I think if you come in with real world experience and certifications, you can climb the ranks much faster. When my cousin joined the Navy at around 28 (he's a bit older than me), he was appointed Officer because he had a lot of experience and degrees to back up his skills. Most people enlisting are fresh out of highschool and the military is their first fulltime job or they're doing it before college/alongside college. The Military is just a job like any other form of employment so if you have the credentials and experience, you can climb the ladder faster.
@@MarioMastar Good explanation, thanks!
Could someone please tell me: Why do some of these officers wear navy blue covers and others wear white ones? And when did the navy stop using the blue covers? Thanks!
What are "blue" (or white) "covers"?
@@schoolssectionMeans what it says on the tin. Jackets, and pants. what you see on the outside., (or what he sees, I only see gray covers. XD)
So..were these real Navy people...or just actors to make this film?
I think a mix of both, the main characters are actors but the background men were likely real personnel. Since in reality, the time it takes to film these cases wouldn't match the real time it takes for the story to actually transgress, and real people of high rank wouldn't have time to film a story.
why the timer?
Here's the issue: this film and others like it may have been made by taxpayers, but the U.S. Government in its infinite wisdom, threw it away. Tens of thousands of films were destroyed and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like this on online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
So, in the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous RUclips users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content. We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to deal with these kind of issues.
thank you
@@PeriscopeFilm Thank God you managed to save some of these jewels. I am fascinated by these old films. It's like time traveling. If a few counters are the price to pay, that is a pittance. Liked and subbed.
@@PeriscopeFilmYour'e doing a great service to all of us. It not only is fascinating to see what things were like back then, but it also keeps our govt honest. as watching these videos in hindsight and comparing it with the stories our grandparents who lived through it tell us, we can compare things and genuinely help improve how we run our military in modern day. Like when they finally got rid of the "Shark attack" because they realized that all it did was scare recruits and make them regret joining. the new system encourages them to work together and MOTIVATES them to keep moving forward, something we desparately need so we don't get convinced to turn our weapons on our commanders and politicians like other countries have experienced.
Ahh '' The old man '' 🧐
It does sound more endearing when they say it like that. Even if it sounds disrespectful to the untrained ear. XD
Rather be a pirate🏴☠️
With pirates, there is no rank, everyone is treated equal on the ship. The Captain and Quartermaster positions are merely jobs everyone agreed person A and B should handle and of course, EVERYONE on a pirate ship wanted to be there. No drafting unless you're a prisoner, but...both Navies and Pirates treat prisoners like dirt.
"Topics include Vietnam, Cold War, Air Force, Space Exploration and much more - in a 1943 film. LOL!
Mike L - You're joking, of course....😬
As well as internet, telecom warfar, Afghanistan, and the war on Ukraine - in a 1943 film. XD
@@sharid76 Why would a retired US Navy Chief Petty Officer joke about such serious issues?
Upstairs ? L.O.L. its "Topside" in the Navy. These must be actors.
XD my favorite comments are the ones from people who actually served who can point out hollywood's mistakes and assumptions. XD
Remove hat when entering wardroom? WTH ?? Who wears a hat inside a ship anyway?
Surely they didn't actually pitch such items as large trunks overboard while the ship was still at anchor in the harbor?? Having various assorted large pieces of luggage floating about was not only extremely wasteful, but presented themselves as a menace to navigation? I can't imagine they would be a benefit to the propellers which would probably chew them up into chunks!
Yes, I already know there aren't adequate storage spaces for such items on a real ship, for this movie certainly gave a false impression of the "wide open spaces" and roominess available in the crew quarters. At first glance here, you'd think all the officers quarters were each bigger than my living room, and should be able to stow at least two trunks apiece, but that's certainly not the case, then or now. I've been on the USS Theodore Roosevelt myself, in Norfolk, pre-9/11, on a personally guided tour, and the crew spaces are anything but roomy.
Good information, and THANK YOU for your service!
I thought officers ones would be a bit roomier then the rest of the sailors
@@lordjor96 The officer's quarters are much roomier than enlisted. The space those two Jr O's had would have been berths for probably about 12-14 Jr enlisted depending on the type of ship.
I think we had to get pass the 3 mile line before we could chuck stuff overboard. I don't think it would have been done in port like this.
A lot of these movies were written with Hollywood entertainment in mind. a LOT Of things they do should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. The point comes across well though, like yeah don't bring an expensive luggage on the ship, it's not a vacation or a trip. But some aspects of it makes the military as a whole look incompetent for not telling the man what would happen to his luggage if he did bring it on. Still it's memorable and drives the point home which is ultimately the point of having these guys fail so shockingly. I can almost bet NO one brought expensive cases on the ship after seeing this movie just for the fear it'll be yoinked over the edge.
Squids.
Masturbation. The pastime of naval seaman today, and you better believe there was plenty of chicken choking going on back during WW2 aboard ship as well.
That explains their "Desparation for dames" in most of these movies. I mean absolutely shameless, even if they're married with kids. XD