@Sean Tottenham okay, so he would've been a 10 time champ, sorry. People make too big of a deal of the marrying Stephanie stuff when it comes to his wrestling legacy. The marriage has probably helped him backstage. I believe that. But HHH would've had a lot of title runs regardless.
The problem with this statement is it can be said about just about everyone in the WWE right now. Cause who is the guy that draws money? Lesnar? Reigns? I don't think there's much evidence of them or anyone else in the company now being actual draws since WWE have positioned themselves as to where the brand is the draw.
Spot-on especially considering the fact that wrestling fans don't know none of his relatives, and the fact that their married life is mostly private especially when it comes to his three daughters.
Absolutely. Even watching the interactions he had with his buddies in the 90s and early 2000s. I think sense he lived a different lifestyle, being a non drinker or doing any recreational drugs, it seemed to me he was a bit out of place. But adjusted himself to fit with certain groups. I am NOT saying he wasn't/isnt truly friends with the Kliq but he never showed me that true closeness you see when Hall and Nash are together or the like.
@@madamefeast4824 I think nash and him have a good relationship. And we all know how close he was to shawn all those years. I think it's just his personality that he doesn't show a lot of the gushy side of it to a whole lot of people.
Austin getting hurt, the Rock leaving for Hollywood, Brett Hart leaving for WCW and marrying Stephanie McMahon all greatly contributed to HHH's success.
HHH's long, drawn out promos were absolutely unbearable 😭 I remember when he would start droning on & on, I'd go to the kitchen & start cooking up something to eat....by the time I was done, & came back in the room, he was only half way through. Absolute snooze fest.
@@zaryalace7475 Absolutely. His problem was always that he saw himself on a level with guys like Rock and Austin, and he wasn't. He was a good wrestler and a good heel, but he needed those top level guys to play off of, and when they left, he couldn't fill the void.
I'd say his promos from 2001 on are mostly garbage. Although it was kinda funny that wm he wrestled where he was saying it almost a joke cena was the one he had to beat. And of course those infamous promos on Booker t in 2003 were reprehensible. But he was the best heel in the biz in 2000. On the mic, in the ring, he was really good. He played his role well.
Cause you're talking about the game uhhhh and right now you better watch what you say uhhhh because tonight uhhhh in this very ring uhhhh you will be in fighting uhhhhh with one of the greats uhhhh
As Randy Savage said about Hulk Hogan during their feud from 1989, that same statement can be applied to Triple H. "You just couldn't stand to see the champion in action! So you had to get your grandstandin' and hotdoggin' in!"
I love that Jim doesn't ass kiss the Kliq like every other backstage "politician". You can tell, he REALLY have a strong distaste for them, especially HHH and HBK
I like to imagine HHH, with all his success, with his position in wrestling cemented, as the heir apparent to the company, has waking nightmares about how he'll never get his win back against Alex Wright.
He could always hire him for a week and get the win back. Lol. Hogan did it with warrior in 98 and wasn't even an executive. He might as well have been but technically wasn't. Lol
If Curtain call doesnt happen, HHH wins KOTR 96 and we don't get Austin 3:16 promo. If HBK doesnt back out of the match with Brett Hart, we never get WM13 Austin vs Hart. Appreciate the way things happened.
Jim couldn't be more on point, more 1000% right on, with his HHH assessment. In any other era, he's a pure legend. When he's working with The Rock, Austin, Take, Cena, Michaels, etc., he is the foil in their matches He's the guy they cut promos on. Someone has to work the matches when the real stars come out. HHH was that dude. He gets exposed when the real superstars are around. He's the very top of the 2nd tier.
I've always said HHH is a smart mark that got into the business. He's everything the old school guys hate, it's just that HHH looks like the prototypical wrestler and the others don't.
Good observation. I never thought of it like that. He's that one guy that slipped through the cracks and made it through pure luck alone and positioning, not talent.
El Hajj Malik El give him a break, he saved Steve Austin from that fan who entered the ring in their match. He was a good dude who watched out for his fellow wrestler.
Matthias Thulman I think he got arrested and that’s the last we heard of it. If it happened during the social media era I’m sure they would have interviewed him. 😂
People hate on HHH but he’s the one guy you could rely on as a heel to be consistently booed. A lot of guys want to be the anti-hero heel but they end up getting cheered which is ultimately a failure (Think Dean Ambrose, Kevin Owens). Late 99 to early 2001 was so great because not only did you have Rock and Austin doing their best work, they also had an opponent to work with that people genuinely wanted to see get their ass kicked.
You nailed it. Being a consistently good heel is waaaaaay harder than it seems. HHH wasn’t the absolute best guy but he was absolutely one of the most consistent characters and workers.
You could put a broom against Austin and Rock and it'd draw as much heat as HHH did. Vince and Angle were getting more heat than HHH ever did in same time period.
Jim Ross did to good of a job when he use to call Triple H matches every other word coming out of his mouth game this game that and cerebral assassin this and cerebral assassin that and some people drank the koolaid. He was ok he got lucky to be around probably the best group of wrestlers that i has ever seen and before that he was on wcw around some of the best minds in wrestling the only match i remember of him was when he was still on wcw it was against Ricky Steamboat it was the last time i ever saw Ricky wrestled ever again.
@@darthknowl9222 no doubt. His feud with bret is what really propelled him. Then later in 97 he was feuding with vince fucking McMahon. You can't get a much better push than that. Plus, his character was symbolic of the zeitgeist at the time: anti-authority, foul-mouthed, bad-ass, edgy, beer-swilling. His character was absolutely perfect for the time. I'll admit he bit the sandman in some ways. But sandman didn't have 1/5 of the talent Austin did. Austin's character was right place, right time. But Steve Williams could've pulled off a lot of different things. His WCW character was pretty good at times. They just didn't do much with it. And I liked the whole "I'm better than all these bingo hall jackoffs" stuck-up superstar character he had in ECW. but stone cold got popular because Austin had the talent to pull it off but also one of the greatest prolonged pushes ever from late 96 until his neck surgery late 99.
I watched wrestling non-stop from 1985, until HHH's never ending monster push started in the early 2000s with him beating everyone and starting every RAW with 20min promos saying "uhh" at the end of every sentence. It was years before I started watching consistently again.
Triple H wasnt that fucking bad lmfao was it not Cena waving his hand in front of his face and pretending to be a black guy that did it in the early 2000s ?
Triple H in a nutshell: an egomaniac from day one, did a lot of questionable things during his tenure, not quite the big attraction because he was somewhat lost between Steve Austin and the Rock and basically held RAW hostage from 2003 to 2006 during his reign of terror. But even with all that, he's the best guy to run the WWE if Vince lets go.
Triple H was always good, but not better than a lot of midcarders from his time. Imagine if Goldust, Val Venis, Al Snow, D'lo Brown, Farooq...etc. made the right friends backstage and positioned themselves to excel.
@J Crash you just displayed the most mark behavior ever you don't know a thing about me and you're assuming shit cause you're just another fan in their feelings..omg I love triple h how dare you lmao gtfoh and BTW tell me one significant thing triple h has actually contributed to wrestling you a fan of a leech, when I put like that you're worse than a mark
HHH had more intensity than other heels. He was also dedicated, talented, knowledgeable etc. He surrounded himself with power players early on. He also volunteered early on to participate in creative etc. I don't think his marriage to Stephanie is what made him a main eventer.
Like him but I think Rock, Mankind, and Austin came by it honestly, in the sense that HHH politicized more & without politics, much like Diesel, wouldn't draw on his own accord.
@@briguy459 Let's not forget he was booked to win KotR until the Curtain Call happened. They were more keen to push him than Austin in 1996, HHH was punished for breaking kayfabe and Austin got the push instead, which in turn created Austin 3:16
@@regorf HHH was my favorite wrestler until Kurt Angle came around, I'm probably a bigger mark for his flying knee to punches, headhold to knee, kick to pedigree era move set than most. I don't think anyone think he's a mid carder, but he's had alotta luck with having HBK as a freind, always being in creative/Vince' s ear, and befriending and eventually marrying Stephanie to possibly replace VKM in the end. Seriously though, we'll see the day when his last match is him winning against the Rock though.. at least I wouldn't put it past him.
The thing I respect most about Triple H is that he had a lot of career ending situations in both his body and character, yet he managed to stay relevant for so long. That Katie Vick angle could've killed both HHH and Kane's careers but both are still able to have presence on the ring.
How could that have killed their careers? It wasn't as big of a deal as the IWC makes it out to be. Also - THEY BOTH HAD LONG TERM GUARANTEED CONTRACTS. They were already made men and weren't going anywhere.
@Danny Isambard Nobody mentions this, but I bet dealing with Stephanie is the hardest part of his wrestling career, especially during this decade (even Dusty Rhodes got in trouble just for putting his hand on her face during a promo lol).
@Justin Sharpe It was fine. It was mid pack of title runs. Wasn't the best. Wasn't the worst. But it doesn't compare to Bret's run. The company was so confident he could draw, they put him in the ring with the best worker in the world to win the belt at a house show and then the biggest star the industry has ever known wanted to work with him so bad, they had Bret lose to Yokozuna 5 minutes before Hulk got the belt. Now that's a run!
@Justin Sharpe Gosh, man, yeah... create your reality like you need it, because you hate Shawn Michaels based on some internet crowd opinions. My goodness...
Triple H in my opinion is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. He has had an amazing wrestling career, 14 time World Champion (9 time WWE/F Champion, 5 time World Heavyweight Champion) 5 time WWE/F Intercontinental Champion, 2 time WWF European Champion, 2 time WWE/F Tag Team Champion, 1 time WWE Unified Tag Team Champion, 1997 King of the Ring Winner, 2002 Royal Rumble Match Winner, 2016 Royal Rumble Match Winner, Triple Crown Champion, Grand Slam Champion, WWE Hall of Famer (2019) with D-Generation X. Feuded with WWE Legends like Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rock, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista, Brock Lesnar, Kane etc. Has had 2 serious Quad Injuries and recovered as fast as humanly possible. He has Great Promo skills, Great In-Ring Worker, Excellent Physique (2002 weighing 272 pounds like a Beast). Been part of D-Generation X, Evolution, has been involved in the Greatest storylines, he has evolved his character. Been part of the 1st ever Elimination Chamber Match at Survivor Series in 2002. Now is running NXT the best brand in WWE today. Triple H will become the heir of the WWE and will make WWE great again. Because he is the Game and he is that Damn Good!. Triple H is my all-time favorite Wrestler.
Hate him or love him he was a great heel during the attitude era, he was a student of the game, loved the sport and was crossover who was a heel but got baby face status with the fans later on. He has given a lot to the game no pun intended and deserves his respect, the attitude era would not have been the same without him. You think HHH wasn't over watch his Madison Square garden return the pop will give you chills.
Bret Hart’s assessment of HHH is the best I’ve heard in summarizing his work. From my recollection it was something along the lines of, ‘when has he ever had a truly great match? When has he ever done something new? He’s good not great.’
Just off the top of my head no holds barred vs cactus, hell in a cell vs cactus, 3 stages of hell vs stone cold, both WrestleMania matches vs the Undertaker, ladder match vs Rock for IC title.
Cornette didn't consider that H could have sincerely meant the apology when he apologized initially, but him saying " I didn't mean the apology" on Raw was a work, Cornette didn't consider that? lol Wow
@@seyvend well as you know he hates Russo for all the wrong reasons, just like I have people hating me over video games (sad but true!) so of course he'll blame Russo for any little thing. I don't think the "Curtain Call" idea was Russo's idea, it was HBK's and HHH and I've read that they got Vince's approval before hand, so if that's the case, Helmsley shouldn't have gotten "punished" for it.
@@Rick-si1re Vince punished HHH so he could keep the locker room from revolting. Think about how many dudes would've jumped to WCW if he hadn't punished anyone. Not saying that I agree with Vince's decision to allow it and dodge responsibility.
I guess but Trips shouldn't have taken all that heat is all I'm saying. I did hear the "boys" were upset about it and Helmsley had to apologize to everyone about it, and if that's the case HBK should have had to do the same thing since he was in on it as well and he was still there. People always go "Shawn was the Champion so they couldn't do anything to him" how does him being champion effect him apologizing to everyone about it, he was just as guilty as HHH.
He worked different between his blue blood and cerebral assassin phases. Not that it matters, you could make that statement about anyone in wrestling. It's all equally hyperbole from fans to dismiss talent they don't like.
There were times HHH worked great matches, but he was always working with either great wrestlers, like HBK or great performers like Austin or Foley. But fact is, dude was a very good worker. His promos weren’t the absolute worst, but they damn sure couldn’t compare to Flair, Rock, Austin, Jericho or Foley (or many others). And considering he’s viewed by many as the most competent wrestling mind on the company today, doesn’t mean his knowledge of history and the business is poor - it’s absolutely not - but it also says a lot about the dumpster fire that is WWE as a whole. His 25 year plan, though... that will go down in history.
He had great matches with foley, Benoit, taka michonoku on raw, Jericho, Jeff Hardy, triple h in 2000 had one of the greatest years a wrestler has ever had stop it
Kam Fisher Triple H was carried in those matches. But when it was time for Triple H to carry someone to a good matche he fails everytime , for example : Randy vs HHH at WM25, Sheamus vs HHH at WM26 and the list goes on
HHH is a legend. I've been watching him since day one...He's no Ric Flair but he has become he own entity in the pro wrestling business. He's old school., and has a great mind for the business. He's not in the top 5 or 10. But I would definitely put him in my top 25 of all time overall.
In ring he's not terrible but he's also no Kurt Angle. I agree absolutely with mic skills I think he's one of the best. The thing with Triple H I think a lot of people like him is his character. Comes out with a awesome theme song and he has a great look and awesome finisher.
Stephen Crane Triple H vs HBK for the European title where he ran the ropes and gingerly covered Michaels, Triple H vs Booker T at WM XIX where he took nearly a minute to cover him after one Pedigree and won, Triple H vs Chris Jericho where he ‘lost’ and won back the belt in April 2000, being handed the World Title by Bischoff, re-writing the Angle-Steph storyline because he argued no one would believe Steph would leave him for Kurt, re-writing the Y2J storyline heading into X8 because his character would never be dumb enough to not know he was being cheated on, backing out of three planned babyface turns in 2000-01, his match with Sting at WM 31..just off the top of my head; he gets a walk on all those too?
@@guyincognito5706 You forgot when the Warrior buried the shit out of HHH. when he came back. It was only seconds long but I loved that match. Despite the wins and loses, HHH will always be a legend to me.
@@guyincognito5706 They were booking decisions, by Vince, so yes. The only thing I have issue with Trips is the Curtain Call but that's just because Corny riled me up about it.
Right?! I hated him back in the day! The year 2000, especially Wrestlemainia 16, was The Rock's time. He was the hottest thing in wrestling at the time! Trips was super jealous of him.
I don’t have a problem with Triple H saying he wasn’t sorry for what happened at the curtain call. If Vince couldn’t punish HBK then why should HHH take a punishment? I would have been pissed off about it, too. If you make someone apologize for something, how sorry do you think they really are? Either everyone gets punished or no one does.
Triple H is a perfectly acceptable wrestler but the only reason he's regarded as a big deal is because he married into the McMahon family and so WWE revisionist history promotes him as being on the Mount Rushmore of wrestling. He's Larry Zbyszko from an alternate universe where the AWA put the belt on Hulk Hogan and didn't die out. During the peak of WWF success Triple H was at best the number four or five guy. Once Austin, Rock and Foley were out of the way and he became the top guy the business tanked. Turns out that big audience wasn't tuning into Raw to see him. If he wasn't the promotor's son-in-law that kind of correlation between falling ratings and him becoming the focus of the show would probably have gotten him shoved down the card and he would eventually have been cut when his contract was up.
Best explanation 👌 I also thought WWF started reaching when he was getting more air-time. At one point, it seemed like: "The HHH show" and it was about as excited as listening to Stephanie screech things.
He would have always been a big deal he only married Steph in 03. He was really hot from at least 98. The whole his whole success is because of the marriage is just untrue. The LEVEL of his success is directly linked to his marriage though
HHH is a B+ player who was the guy who worked with THE GUY.... His friends then his marriage made him main event.... his work would have made him Mid Card to upper mid card... he was only Main Event because of who he knew and timing... What he has done with NXT and such since is his true legacy
@@ValiantWrestling they used to be called transitional champions... Their reigns were short, mostly to take a belt off a face and give it to the next face they were pushing
It’s interesting to know that Cornette has some degree of respect for HHH after all these years. Thats an ever-shortening short list after he kicked Brian Zane from it
I think Jim is wrong here. He is too focused on the early Attitude era. Triple H was the guy that worked with the guy then. But he developed into the preeminent heel in ruthless aggression era. Never was my favourite but gotta give credit where credit is due. He is a lot more than who he married or backstage politicking. One of the great heel promos of all time by the early 2000’s.
I guess if you think long, rambling promos that don’t go anywhere are entertaining to listen to, then he was a good promo. But if you live in reality, you’d know everyone was bored of his promos.
@@GracefulEloquence I was in the crowds and watching the TVs back then and that is revisionist history. People got bored of him on top by late aughts and early 2010s.
My two cents. I'm an old wrestling fan, and I've been a fan of Triple H. For years, he's kept me entertained. It's not derogatory to say to he worked with "the guy". Not only can everyone not be "the guy", but it's smart to be the foil, to "the guy". I think a few people could learn from that. You're not going to match or eclipse the top heroic figure, take tye opposite route. His impact, on multiple levels. To the day, I'm happy when I see him on the program.
I think this is a pretty fair summary of HHH, he was a very good but not great performer. I think it was Bret Hart who said “name a 5 star HHH match” when asked about him and said many of the same things. Competent wrestler with a good look but never had a list of must-see matches like his contemporaries did.
I've said it before and I say it again Triple H is B+ talent with a type A personality and type A personalities can't to be anything less than number 1 much less number 5 or even 7
Triple H was equally the top guy with The Rock after Austin left for surgery. And he is objectively a top 20 all-time draw. To call Hunter a B+ player is like calling The Undertaker the same thing. Things are more complicated than you HHHaters make them out to be.
ISetYourFaceOnFire that promo he cut on why he attacked Austin was the best HHH promo of all time. In the ring, he can work at a good rate, he’s no Eddie Guerrero but he has a good understanding of the psychology. But his promos in the attitude era were the best he was on the mic.
He was a fantastic heel. It was unfortunate to be around when the Rock and Austin were there in the sense that they were miles ahead of him but he was right up there. Everyone loved to hate him after the glory years of dx.
He could do "smug" better than anyone. Look at the drawing in the thumbnail with how HHH tipped his head back to make the viewer look up his nose, The guy who ran foxcatcher did that in real life as a powermove.
Very insightful. Sometimes I thought HHH talked too long in ring segments. But my favorite Segments was when he was going against Cactus Jack it felt so personal. HHH a dictator and Cactus Jack a lunatic.
Stone Cold, The Rock, Mankind, HHH, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Cena the 90's-early 2000's era was so packed with talent on top
My favorite Triple H moment was when he came out as behind being involved in the stone cold hit and run. The way he foreshadowed it telling Austin "DTA don't trust anyone as a face at the time. The low point for me is the PG era when he talking about putting smiles on faces like its the circus. You can't say that and be a heel.
I feel like I'm on crazy pills... NXT sucks, it's boring, shitty wrestling with generic, small, non-charismatic guys. It doesn't draw. HHH doesn't draw and what he is turning the WWE in to wont draw (and isn't).
@@supermanXL well character pov what's triple he's most dastardly deed then name edges I'd have to give it to hunter and you know it will come out to play when he's in Vince spot especially with the 3 generation talents so may be children to the father's triple h has fueded with
True that's what's missing on the main roster theirs no must see rivalry only thing that comes to mind is champia vs Gargano I mean they tried it with Ambrose and Rollins but it fell flat and that's a easy angle I'm talking about the second fued I did enjoy the first but triple has guess you can remember First being the Rock also Foley, HBK and Batista and Taker I didn't name Austin cause t they only have had one match worth mentioning and that's at No Way Out 2001 I believe but WWE today lacks the fueds where people are having like the IC title with rock and triple h where to guys are reaching the top business is just to fast in 2019
Triple H's "selfish" attitude is what made him one of the best heels in the early 2000s, honestly. Nobody as big of a prick as he was would of never been able to pull off the character he did at the time, in my opinion.
THE PROPHECY yeah. Him and Jericho , all those bloody matches, he did his thing, idk what that guy is talking about how people changed the channel on triple H and how he didn’t get people in seats. He most definitely did
Triple H is easy one of the best hands down.. technical wise and has that rare mind for the business. Well rounded and his promos kill every time 🤷🏽♂️.. have to disagree with ole Corny on this one..
Joseph Nicolino the induction means what, in the grand scheme of things? A speech? Acknowledgement by the company? The company writes its own narrative at will on anything and everything, and if they wanted to, could undo it all tomorrow.
HHH is the greatest heel ever, period. No one has done more dastardly deeds on TV than him. JR used to lose his mind commentating his matches because he'd be so enraged at H smashing fools with the hammer
@@steveg2251 I agree! HHH did rip off the Franchise gimmick from Shane Douglas from ECW from 92 to 99 but was a cheap, carbon copy of Shane Douglas in 99 wwf as the Game anyways.
Thanks for speaking the truth Jim. Triple H was the top heel to work with the real stars. Rock, Austin, Jericho, Angle. When he shaved the beard and became a Ric Flair tribute act, business dived. As a wrestler, Triple H did a lot more harm than good. I'll give him credit for NXT.
Go up to any stranger in the street and ask them what a Chris Jericho is. They'll look at you dumbfounded. Then go up to another stranger and spit water in their face. Instant flashback to HHH smashing Austin with a sledgehammer.
HHH was one of few wrestlers who were over even as a heel .. Still remember when he returned from the Quad injury I’ve never heard a pop like that EVER !
Triple H is one of the best ever in the WWE. Telling a story in the ring and the build plus he was in all the memorable rivalries. His rivalry with Foley, Rock and HBK are three of the best ever and 1999 through to 2004 he was great. He says he loves the wrestling busniess and now he's in a great postion to shape it in his vision and I have no issue with that at all.
Basically I even heard back in the day that when HHH was given a script to follow and HHH would ask if he was going over and if he wouldn’t he would start ripping the scripts and I even heard something like Vince Mchmahon let HHH do whatever he want because HHH was marrying vinces daughter and it was like if your marrying the bosses daughter you could do whatever u want
Others have said it yeah he was the guy that worked with THE guy ..he was never main even fotc material and if he never married into the family he wouldn't have but maybe one or two title reigns
I tell you what, I was born in 1990, and started watching WWF when I was about 8. Naturally, me and all my friends held backyard wrestling matches and always performed finishers. Nothing hurt quite as bad as when we did our awful interpretation of the Pedigree. I was convinced it was a truly brutal move and always respected it as a finisher.
@@Arm2586 no Vince grandfather founded the company. Then he gave it to Vince father, then vince father gave the company to Vince. Vince has brothers and sisters but he is the oldest
I was never a fan of HHH. I found him boring. I'd tune into Raw and if it began with "TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAAME!", I'd change the channel. The McMahon/Helmsley era made me stop watching wrestling for a while. He didn't seem to me to be in the same league as Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Jericho, etc.
Disagree with Corny on this one. Triple H is awesome. Very good in the ring, stepped up on a main event scale regularly, great look, and great on the mike. And a tough as nails hard ass worker. Yes he married the bosses daughter. Yes that obviously has tremendously helped his career, but he’s proven time and again he’s an all time great.
HHH is an upper midcard talent with a push. Never had any business winning a prestigious title. But he's in good company because most championships since him should never have been champ. I guess he could have been the heel that switched the belt from Backlund to Hogan. Or Bruno to Pedro. But never the focal champ.
I swear all these anti HHH people are just plain stupid, you know DX became more popular and profitable when triple h was the leader right? You know he was voted the best wrestler in 2000 right? You know he’s been one of the greatest heels to the point people hated him winning all the time, you know from late 1999-2001 he was the best wrestler on the planet and you can look back on the wwe network nobody comes close.
@@kamfisher1714 look back? I was there watching when it happened. And I actually liked him. I just never thought he was the star they made him out to be. And in ring he jus lacked something. I never saw a workrate better than Benoit, Jericho or Kobashi that year. Or Angle. He was pushed hard and positioned to have high impact matches in 2000. And DX was raunchy cheap humour at the right place at the right time. If I were Eric Bischoff I would have ended them completely with one decision; when he showed up at Nitro and parked outside the arena with megaphones I would have sent a camera crew with Meng, Scott Norton, and Barbarian and I would have told then to go out there and beat those guys up on camera for real. But I digress. An over heel stable and being cosiness among the best ever are two different things.
Επαμεινωνδας Κοσμας out be? Dude you must’ve been blind or deaf, the pops he had in 2000 were big either if he was booed or cheered, when Austin was out he carried the load with the rock that whole year especially late 1999, he was having great matches with taka michonoku on raw dude, triple h was better than Jericho and Benoit in 2000 I don’t know how you forget he was the biggest heel in the company while they were getting the highest ratings ever by a wrestling company, he’s not that good on the mic but he isn’t bad either
Επαμεινωνδας Κοσμας he was positioned into that role of having impact matches ? No he was simply better than everyone else, the rock is not a better wrestler than triple h if you think so you don’t know anything about wrestling, wwf at the time didn’t make triple h have the great matches he did it himself, plus he was a 2x wwf champion before the storyline with Stephanie too, Vince has always loved HHH because he actually gives a fuck about the business
@@kamfisher1714 ever? Nah. The Saturday Night Main Events of the late 80s were still the highest ratings ever. And on cable TBS with GCW in the late 70s was a powerhouse. 98 to 2000 was a fad. And his pops paled in comparison to Rock. But I dealt you your delusional HHH on forums plenty back in 2000 telling you all it was overhyped. Kobashi was still better in 2000. And in 2001 Mutoh showed everyone what an all time great year looks like. I know I'll never convince you otherwise. I don't care to. Just don't think I didn't see all those matches, reactions, and sales reports back then.
Did HHH have talent ? Yes . Did HHH have the look Yes . Did HHH Capitalize on the family of who he is involved and married too? Absolutely! 👍
He was getting a push before he ever started dating her.
@@hellohell77 yeah but he was always secondary
Were guys clearly better that never got a push yes!
@Sean Tottenham okay, so he would've been a 10 time champ, sorry. People make too big of a deal of the marrying Stephanie stuff when it comes to his wrestling legacy. The marriage has probably helped him backstage. I believe that. But HHH would've had a lot of title runs regardless.
hellohell77 he would not be a 10x champ wtf lmaoooo
"The guy that worked with the guy that drew money." Perfect.
So what Seth Rollins is now :3
carrastealth Pretty much. Rollins has how many main title runs compared to both Reigns and Ambrose/Moxley now?
That’s a perfect way to sum him up
The problem with this statement is it can be said about just about everyone in the WWE right now. Cause who is the guy that draws money? Lesnar? Reigns? I don't think there's much evidence of them or anyone else in the company now being actual draws since WWE have positioned themselves as to where the brand is the draw.
That quote applies to Jim Cornette himself rather than Triple H.
I've always felt HHH is a loner that rode with the best people to get where he needed to be. If it's not with the Kliq it's with the McMahons.
I totally agree because with his clean living he shouldn't have been anywhere near and would not have liked the rampant drug use within the group
Spot-on especially considering the fact that wrestling fans don't know none of his relatives, and the fact that their married life is mostly private especially when it comes to his three daughters.
Absolutely. Even watching the interactions he had with his buddies in the 90s and early 2000s. I think sense he lived a different lifestyle, being a non drinker or doing any recreational drugs, it seemed to me he was a bit out of place. But adjusted himself to fit with certain groups. I am NOT saying he wasn't/isnt truly friends with the Kliq but he never showed me that true closeness you see when Hall and Nash are together or the like.
Still one of my favorite wrestlers. He was great in the ring.
@@madamefeast4824 I think nash and him have a good relationship. And we all know how close he was to shawn all those years. I think it's just his personality that he doesn't show a lot of the gushy side of it to a whole lot of people.
Austin getting hurt, the Rock leaving for Hollywood, Brett Hart leaving for WCW and marrying Stephanie McMahon all greatly contributed to HHH's success.
And Shawn getting hurt
Yeah. Good point. It was good luck really, all those events happening in his favor
Agreed. HHH was in the right place at the right time
And Vince liking guys who look like Triple H
That last one especially
Kinda looks like bobby hill in that drawing
Looks like Hank catching Bobby modeling big boy clothes at the Mall.
Lmao
@MrChisleblast That boy ain't right.
Yup
Almost choked on my cigarette🤣🤣
HHH's long, drawn out promos were absolutely unbearable 😭 I remember when he would start droning on & on, I'd go to the kitchen & start cooking up something to eat....by the time I was done, & came back in the room, he was only half way through. Absolute snooze fest.
In the middle of the ringaaaaa!!!!!
HHH's boring reign helped contribute to a mass exodus of fans, marking the end of the Attitude Era.
@@zaryalace7475 Absolutely. His problem was always that he saw himself on a level with guys like Rock and Austin, and he wasn't. He was a good wrestler and a good heel, but he needed those top level guys to play off of, and when they left, he couldn't fill the void.
I'd say his promos from 2001 on are mostly garbage. Although it was kinda funny that wm he wrestled where he was saying it almost a joke cena was the one he had to beat. And of course those infamous promos on Booker t in 2003 were reprehensible. But he was the best heel in the biz in 2000. On the mic, in the ring, he was really good. He played his role well.
Cause you're talking about the game uhhhh
and right now you better watch what you say uhhhh
because tonight uhhhh
in this very ring uhhhh
you will be in fighting uhhhhh
with one of the greats uhhhh
As Randy Savage said about Hulk Hogan during their feud from 1989, that same statement can be applied to Triple H. "You just couldn't stand to see the champion in action! So you had to get your grandstandin' and hotdoggin' in!"
I love that Jim doesn't ass kiss the Kliq like every other backstage "politician". You can tell, he REALLY have a strong distaste for them, especially HHH and HBK
For fucks sakes learn english
@@chillincharlie9792 If you can't grasp that, then YOU for fucks sakes need to read more often to help you comprehend wtf you're reading ;-)
Yet Bret Hart is seen as the bad guy and The Kilq are seen as the heroes. Both HBK and HHH tried to keep down Austin and Rock, two scumbags.
Cause he knows what dirty sh_t they did to other people...
Jim hates HBK but he’s never hated HHH he’s actually been pretty complimentary of him recently
I like to imagine HHH, with all his success, with his position in wrestling cemented, as the heir apparent to the company, has waking nightmares about how he'll never get his win back against Alex Wright.
He could always hire him for a week and get the win back. Lol. Hogan did it with warrior in 98 and wasn't even an executive. He might as well have been but technically wasn't. Lol
Who ?
@@BakedNConfused Das Wunderkind, the reason Hunter held such a grudge against wcw.
You forgot about Kurt Angle was in that era also.
@Jon Luci Angle at one point was WWE's most payed wrestler, if not at least Top 3.
@Jon Luci
2000 Kurt Angle was the truth
@@CraigSmithII best technician ever in my eyes
Everybody forgot about Kirk Angel
Lol
@@RandalfElVikingo sir what year was that when Kurt angle was the top 3 highest payed wrestler?
If Curtain call doesnt happen, HHH wins KOTR 96 and we don't get Austin 3:16 promo. If HBK doesnt back out of the match with Brett Hart, we never get WM13 Austin vs Hart. Appreciate the way things happened.
"Let's talk about Triple H's punishment for the Curtain Call."
'Let me tell you about that piece of shit Vince Russo." - Jim Cornette.
Triple H's fueds with the The Rock and Mick Foley/Mankind were amazing
Jim couldn't be more on point, more 1000% right on, with his HHH assessment. In any other era, he's a pure legend. When he's working with The Rock, Austin, Take, Cena, Michaels, etc., he is the foil in their matches
He's the guy they cut promos on. Someone has to work the matches when the real stars come out.
HHH was that dude. He gets exposed when the real superstars are around. He's the very top of the 2nd tier.
I've always said HHH is a smart mark that got into the business. He's everything the old school guys hate, it's just that HHH looks like the prototypical wrestler and the others don't.
Good observation. I never thought of it like that. He's that one guy that slipped through the cracks and made it through pure luck alone and positioning, not talent.
El Hajj Malik El give him a break, he saved Steve Austin from that fan who entered the ring in their match. He was a good dude who watched out for his fellow wrestler.
@@af6744 what happened with that? The fan running in, I mean
Matthias Thulman I think he got arrested and that’s the last we heard of it. If it happened during the social media era I’m sure they would have interviewed him. 😂
@@af6744 lol probably
“Keith Lee and Ole Bro chasing Generico around..”
I got a giggle out of that 😆
People hate on HHH but he’s the one guy you could rely on as a heel to be consistently booed. A lot of guys want to be the anti-hero heel but they end up getting cheered which is ultimately a failure (Think Dean Ambrose, Kevin Owens).
Late 99 to early 2001 was so great because not only did you have Rock and Austin doing their best work, they also had an opponent to work with that people genuinely wanted to see get their ass kicked.
1999 Heel DX was my favorite Triple H.
yeah not enough good heels nowadays that actually get hated imo, from Jericho to MJF to Adam Cole to Rollins they still get cheers.
You nailed it. Being a consistently good heel is waaaaaay harder than it seems. HHH wasn’t the absolute best guy but he was absolutely one of the most consistent characters and workers.
Hhh is not a anti hero stone cold was
You could put a broom against Austin and Rock and it'd draw as much heat as HHH did. Vince and Angle were getting more heat than HHH ever did in same time period.
Completely agree with Jim on this was great at working with great guys
Well said. Not insulting at all but pretty dead on. The reason people act like he's so great is because wwe propaganda tells you he is.
Jim Ross did to good of a job when he use to call Triple H matches every other word coming out of his mouth game this game that and cerebral assassin this and cerebral assassin that and some people drank the koolaid. He was ok he got lucky to be around probably the best group of wrestlers that i has ever seen and before that he was on wcw around some of the best minds in wrestling the only match i remember of him was when he was still on wcw it was against Ricky Steamboat it was the last time i ever saw Ricky wrestled ever again.
Lmao y’all are idiots. His resume speaks for itself. Amazing matches and feuds and here you write this stupid shit.
His actions with the curtain call, and subsequent punishment is what helped propel Austin.
you´re forgetting the greatest match in mania history with Bret...
Tokes Alotta I was never into Austin. He bit the Sandman’s gimmick. If it wasn’t for HHH getting punished, would Austin be as big as he was?
@@darthknowl9222 I think so
@@darthknowl9222 I think it depended on the fans pop towards Austin but yeah the attitude era may very well not have happened.
@@darthknowl9222 no doubt. His feud with bret is what really propelled him. Then later in 97 he was feuding with vince fucking McMahon. You can't get a much better push than that. Plus, his character was symbolic of the zeitgeist at the time: anti-authority, foul-mouthed, bad-ass, edgy, beer-swilling. His character was absolutely perfect for the time. I'll admit he bit the sandman in some ways. But sandman didn't have 1/5 of the talent Austin did. Austin's character was right place, right time. But Steve Williams could've pulled off a lot of different things. His WCW character was pretty good at times. They just didn't do much with it. And I liked the whole "I'm better than all these bingo hall jackoffs" stuck-up superstar character he had in ECW. but stone cold got popular because Austin had the talent to pull it off but also one of the greatest prolonged pushes ever from late 96 until his neck surgery late 99.
I always loved the "The guy who worked with the guy THAT drew money!" quote lol
I watched wrestling non-stop from 1985, until HHH's never ending monster push started in the early 2000s with him beating everyone and starting every RAW with 20min promos saying "uhh" at the end of every sentence.
It was years before I started watching consistently again.
Triple H wasnt that fucking bad lmfao was it not Cena waving his hand in front of his face and pretending to be a black guy that did it in the early 2000s ?
@@jamiewalsh9184 I'll never understand what people saw in Cena. Most embarrassing act in wrestling imo. Even the snaje sock puppet was self-aware
I always liked the character hhh.
4 out of 10.
@@ashleyx3822eh 7/10
@@bryanlovetake1129 7/10 is fair. My comment was a Bret hart quote
@@ashleyx3822 oh ok
I loved hating him.
Imagine how funny it would be if HHH was still the Snobby Hunter Hearst Helmsley character to this day.😅
I would absolutely love that
Who knows? He might bring it back once he’s in charge.
He still kinda is
Bring it back!
Triple H in a nutshell: an egomaniac from day one, did a lot of questionable things during his tenure, not quite the big attraction because he was somewhat lost between Steve Austin and the Rock and basically held RAW hostage from 2003 to 2006 during his reign of terror. But even with all that, he's the best guy to run the WWE if Vince lets go.
maxcady360 💯
2005 not 2006
Give me Shane o Mac over HHH. NXT is a good reason why wrestling sucks now. Indie geeks with no charisma
Triple H was always good, but not better than a lot of midcarders from his time. Imagine if Goldust, Val Venis, Al Snow, D'lo Brown, Farooq...etc. made the right friends backstage and positioned themselves to excel.
Reign of terror
-perfect
Say what you want about HHH, but the man loves this business.
Believe in Yourself he loves putting himself over
@@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats Egomaniac since day one.
debatable
So do I but I'm not a multiple time world champion who gets over ppl he has no business even valeting for
@J Crash you just displayed the most mark behavior ever you don't know a thing about me and you're assuming shit cause you're just another fan in their feelings..omg I love triple h how dare you lmao gtfoh and BTW tell me one significant thing triple h has actually contributed to wrestling you a fan of a leech, when I put like that you're worse than a mark
HHH had more intensity than other heels. He was also dedicated, talented, knowledgeable etc. He surrounded himself with power players early on. He also volunteered early on to participate in creative etc. I don't think his marriage to Stephanie is what made him a main eventer.
Tokes Alotta in the words of Donald Trump: "Wrong. Wrong. Wrong."
Like him but I think Rock, Mankind, and Austin came by it honestly, in the sense that HHH politicized more & without politics, much like Diesel, wouldn't draw on his own accord.
@@briguy459 Let's not forget he was booked to win KotR until the Curtain Call happened. They were more keen to push him than Austin in 1996, HHH was punished for breaking kayfabe and Austin got the push instead, which in turn created Austin 3:16
@@regorf HHH was my favorite wrestler until Kurt Angle came around, I'm probably a bigger mark for his flying knee to punches, headhold to knee, kick to pedigree era move set than most. I don't think anyone think he's a mid carder, but he's had alotta luck with having HBK as a freind, always being in creative/Vince' s ear, and befriending and eventually marrying Stephanie to possibly replace VKM in the end. Seriously though, we'll see the day when his last match is him winning against the Rock though.. at least I wouldn't put it past him.
Tokes Alotta it def played a part though... he wouldn’t of been as successful had he not married Stephanie
The thing I respect most about Triple H is that he had a lot of career ending situations in both his body and character, yet he managed to stay relevant for so long.
That Katie Vick angle could've killed both HHH and Kane's careers but both are still able to have presence on the ring.
How could that have killed their careers? It wasn't as big of a deal as the IWC makes it out to be. Also - THEY BOTH HAD LONG TERM GUARANTEED CONTRACTS. They were already made men and weren't going anywhere.
@@quentinkaasa47 the reign of terror isn't what the IWC makes it out to be.
it wasnt a big deal it was a comedic angle
Quentin Kaasa people can be fired
@Danny Isambard Nobody mentions this, but I bet dealing with Stephanie is the hardest part of his wrestling career, especially during this decade (even Dusty Rhodes got in trouble just for putting his hand on her face during a promo lol).
"We all know what HHH stands for and the H in HBK..."
@Justin Sharpe let me guess your a salty Bret fan still?
@Justin Sharpe Bret did not have a better career than Shawn Michaels.
@Justin Sharpe Bret Hart is 8 years older than Shawn Michaels. Sounds like Shawn won his title at a younger age.
@Justin Sharpe It was fine. It was mid pack of title runs. Wasn't the best. Wasn't the worst. But it doesn't compare to Bret's run. The company was so confident he could draw, they put him in the ring with the best worker in the world to win the belt at a house show and then the biggest star the industry has ever known wanted to work with him so bad, they had Bret lose to Yokozuna 5 minutes before Hulk got the belt. Now that's a run!
@Justin Sharpe Gosh, man, yeah... create your reality like you need it, because you hate Shawn Michaels based on some internet crowd opinions. My goodness...
Triple H in my opinion is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. He has had an amazing wrestling career, 14 time World Champion (9 time WWE/F Champion, 5 time World Heavyweight Champion) 5 time WWE/F Intercontinental Champion, 2 time WWF European Champion, 2 time WWE/F Tag Team Champion, 1 time WWE Unified Tag Team Champion, 1997 King of the Ring Winner, 2002 Royal Rumble Match Winner, 2016 Royal Rumble Match Winner, Triple Crown Champion, Grand Slam Champion, WWE Hall of Famer (2019) with D-Generation X. Feuded with WWE Legends like Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rock, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista, Brock Lesnar, Kane etc. Has had 2 serious Quad Injuries and recovered as fast as humanly possible. He has Great Promo skills, Great In-Ring Worker, Excellent Physique (2002 weighing 272 pounds like a Beast). Been part of D-Generation X, Evolution, has been involved in the Greatest storylines, he has evolved his character. Been part of the 1st ever Elimination Chamber Match at Survivor Series in 2002. Now is running NXT the best brand in WWE today. Triple H will become the heir of the WWE and will make WWE great again. Because he is the Game and he is that Damn Good!. Triple H is my all-time favorite Wrestler.
Hate him or love him he was a great heel during the attitude era, he was a student of the game, loved the sport and was crossover who was a heel but got baby face status with the fans later on. He has given a lot to the game no pun intended and deserves his respect, the attitude era would not have been the same without him. You think HHH wasn't over watch his Madison Square garden return the pop will give you chills.
@John Mateus Ok clown
Every time he brings up Russo 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
And Republicans or Trump 🤷♂️
@Nick Garver yeah like how you Republicans always bring up Joe Biden or democrats 😆
@Nick Garver yeah like how you Republicans always bring up Joe Biden or democrats 😆
" Its my time " Heel triple H was one of the best.
Couldn't agree more. To bad it was short lived.
Bret Hart’s assessment of HHH is the best I’ve heard in summarizing his work. From my recollection it was something along the lines of, ‘when has he ever had a truly great match? When has he ever done something new? He’s good not great.’
Just off the top of my head no holds barred vs cactus, hell in a cell vs cactus, 3 stages of hell vs stone cold, both WrestleMania matches vs the Undertaker, ladder match vs Rock for IC title.
Cornette didn't consider that H could have sincerely meant the apology when he apologized initially, but him saying " I didn't mean the apology" on Raw was a work, Cornette didn't consider that? lol Wow
He even put it on a plate for himself to blame Russo for that and he didn’t. Strange.
@@seyvend well as you know he hates Russo for all the wrong reasons, just like I have people hating me over video games (sad but true!) so of course he'll blame Russo for any little thing. I don't think the "Curtain Call" idea was Russo's idea, it was HBK's and HHH and I've read that they got Vince's approval before hand, so if that's the case, Helmsley shouldn't have gotten "punished" for it.
@@Rick-si1re The wrong reasons?
No wonder people hate you, you sound like one of those knowitalls who actually knows very little.
@@Rick-si1re Vince punished HHH so he could keep the locker room from revolting. Think about how many dudes would've jumped to WCW if he hadn't punished anyone.
Not saying that I agree with Vince's decision to allow it and dodge responsibility.
I guess but Trips shouldn't have taken all that heat is all I'm saying. I did hear the "boys" were upset about it and Helmsley had to apologize to everyone about it, and if that's the case HBK should have had to do the same thing since he was in on it as well and he was still there. People always go "Shawn was the Champion so they couldn't do anything to him" how does him being champion effect him apologizing to everyone about it, he was just as guilty as HHH.
Triple H was one of the best heels in the ruthless aggression era from especially in the evolution days when he was world heavyweight champion.
if you've seen one triple h match, you've seen em all...
He worked different between his blue blood and cerebral assassin phases. Not that it matters, you could make that statement about anyone in wrestling. It's all equally hyperbole from fans to dismiss talent they don't like.
But Triple H Hell in a Cell matches tho...
There were times HHH worked great matches, but he was always working with either great wrestlers, like HBK or great performers like Austin or Foley. But fact is, dude was a very good worker. His promos weren’t the absolute worst, but they damn sure couldn’t compare to Flair, Rock, Austin, Jericho or Foley (or many others). And considering he’s viewed by many as the most competent wrestling mind on the company today, doesn’t mean his knowledge of history and the business is poor - it’s absolutely not - but it also says a lot about the dumpster fire that is WWE as a whole. His 25 year plan, though... that will go down in history.
Triple H have great performances in gimmick matches.
In the Single matches (normal) he is not so great.
@@rafaelc.8364 hes great. Triple h vs mike awesome or shane douglas woulda been money
Every Triple H match is him getting the sledgehammer and covering the top with his hand.
He had great matches with foley, Benoit, taka michonoku on raw, Jericho, Jeff Hardy, triple h in 2000 had one of the greatest years a wrestler has ever had stop it
Kam Fisher
Triple H was carried in those matches. But when it was time for Triple H to carry someone to a good matche he fails everytime , for example : Randy vs HHH at WM25, Sheamus vs HHH at WM26 and the list goes on
Cornette trying to give HHH advice is kind of heartwarming.
"he isn't fond of fart jokes"
did jim sleep through dx days?
Probably blames that on Shawn.
nO BECAUSE ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 14 THAT FINDS FART JOKES FUNNY HAS A MAXIMUM IQ OF 4
HHH is a legend. I've been watching him since day one...He's no Ric Flair but he has become he own entity in the pro wrestling business. He's old school., and has a great mind for the business. He's not in the top 5 or 10. But I would definitely put him in my top 25 of all time overall.
Mike Mirch you don’t know anything about wrestling
Kam Fisher Oh no, You hurt my feelings, LOL 😂
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WRESTLING!!!!! 👊 😂😂
bee boo Your a racist and an idiot.
In ring he's not terrible but he's also no Kurt Angle. I agree absolutely with mic skills I think he's one of the best. The thing with Triple H I think a lot of people like him is his character. Comes out with a awesome theme song and he has a great look and awesome finisher.
Trips backflipped into pigshit to put over one of the Godwinns, he gets a walk for that.
Henry O Godwinn. I miss those slop matches.
@@semyaza555 That's right. Thanks for sparking my memory.
Stephen Crane Triple H vs HBK for the European title where he ran the ropes and gingerly covered Michaels, Triple H vs Booker T at WM XIX where he took nearly a minute to cover him after one Pedigree and won, Triple H vs Chris Jericho where he ‘lost’ and won back the belt in April 2000, being handed the World Title by Bischoff, re-writing the Angle-Steph storyline because he argued no one would believe Steph would leave him for Kurt, re-writing the Y2J storyline heading into X8 because his character would never be dumb enough to not know he was being cheated on, backing out of three planned babyface turns in 2000-01, his match with Sting at WM 31..just off the top of my head; he gets a walk on all those too?
@@guyincognito5706 You forgot when the Warrior buried the shit out of HHH. when he came back. It was only seconds long but I loved that match. Despite the wins and loses, HHH will always be a legend to me.
@@guyincognito5706 They were booking decisions, by Vince, so yes. The only thing I have issue with Trips is the Curtain Call but that's just because Corny riled me up about it.
"A new Jim Cornette video? Skip it. I've heard everything from him already."
"Jim's going to sing."
**clicks**
HHH did great in-ring work in 2000 with Foley, Rock and Angle - and was the best heel in that year. He was never the same after his injury in 2001.
Ryan G word because if he was around during the invasion storyline he could have helped wcw or wwf
"Dooley, sittin' down the holler,
Dooley, tryin' ta make a collar,
Dooley, lend me a dollar,
Gonna pay ya back some day."
William Cox
Dooley, slipping up the holler
Dooley, tryin to make a dollar
Dooley, give me a lil swaller
And I’ll pay you back some day
Thanks for the correction.
I thought HHH ruined so many early 2000’s PPV’s because him in title contention weakened my view of other top guys.
Right?! I hated him back in the day! The year 2000, especially Wrestlemainia 16, was The Rock's time. He was the hottest thing in wrestling at the time! Trips was super jealous of him.
I though correct.
But isn’t that your fault for a weak view of top guys
Sting should have wrestled The Undertaker not HHH.
@@elhajjmalikel6266 Oh shit, you hated a heel? Damn, he did such a bad job.
HHH MGS return IS one of the greatest pops of all Times
I'm so glad that Jim is back on a wrestling show again on a regular weekly basis. I LOVE watching N.W.A. Powerrrr 💥 on Tuesday nights....
And... It's gone.
I don’t have a problem with Triple H saying he wasn’t sorry for what happened at the curtain call. If Vince couldn’t punish HBK then why should HHH take a punishment? I would have been pissed off about it, too. If you make someone apologize for something, how sorry do you think they really are? Either everyone gets punished or no one does.
Triple H is a perfectly acceptable wrestler but the only reason he's regarded as a big deal is because he married into the McMahon family and so WWE revisionist history promotes him as being on the Mount Rushmore of wrestling. He's Larry Zbyszko from an alternate universe where the AWA put the belt on Hulk Hogan and didn't die out.
During the peak of WWF success Triple H was at best the number four or five guy. Once Austin, Rock and Foley were out of the way and he became the top guy the business tanked. Turns out that big audience wasn't tuning into Raw to see him. If he wasn't the promotor's son-in-law that kind of correlation between falling ratings and him becoming the focus of the show would probably have gotten him shoved down the card and he would eventually have been cut when his contract was up.
Best explanation 👌
I also thought WWF started reaching when he was getting more air-time. At one point, it seemed like: "The HHH show" and it was about as excited as listening to Stephanie screech things.
He would have always been a big deal he only married Steph in 03. He was really hot from at least 98. The whole his whole success is because of the marriage is just untrue. The LEVEL of his success is directly linked to his marriage though
HHH is a B+ player who was the guy who worked with THE GUY.... His friends then his marriage made him main event.... his work would have made him Mid Card to upper mid card... he was only Main Event because of who he knew and timing... What he has done with NXT and such since is his true legacy
He was wwf champion before he dated Stephanie.
@@ad206 And like Michael's lost it within a couple of months winning it because he couldn't draw.
@@ValiantWrestling It was 1996. Nobody in the WWF was drawing when what was going on in WCW was much more interesting.
@@ad206which was the result if timing
@@ValiantWrestling they used to be called transitional champions... Their reigns were short, mostly to take a belt off a face and give it to the next face they were pushing
It’s interesting to know that Cornette has some degree of respect for HHH after all these years. Thats an ever-shortening short list after he kicked Brian Zane from it
Good. Brain Zane sucks
Love when Cornette sighs before a story lol
I think Jim is wrong here. He is too focused on the early Attitude era. Triple H was the guy that worked with the guy then. But he developed into the preeminent heel in ruthless aggression era. Never was my favourite but gotta give credit where credit is due.
He is a lot more than who he married or backstage politicking. One of the great heel promos of all time by the early 2000’s.
I guess if you think long, rambling promos that don’t go anywhere are entertaining to listen to, then he was a good promo. But if you live in reality, you’d know everyone was bored of his promos.
@@GracefulEloquence I was in the crowds and watching the TVs back then and that is revisionist history. People got bored of him on top by late aughts and early 2010s.
Jim’s ability to call out adult swim show quotes is hilarious
My two cents. I'm an old wrestling fan, and I've been a fan of Triple H. For years, he's kept me entertained. It's not derogatory to say to he worked with "the guy". Not only can everyone not be "the guy", but it's smart to be the foil, to "the guy". I think a few people could learn from that. You're not going to match or eclipse the top heroic figure, take tye opposite route. His impact, on multiple levels. To the day, I'm happy when I see him on the program.
People say being 2nd or 3rd wheel to The Rock and Stone Cold is a bad thing. I doubt someone like Val Venis would have done as well in that role.
actually, with all do respect, I always thought Triple H is much better at cutting promos than Taker
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
I think this is a pretty fair summary of HHH, he was a very good but not great performer. I think it was Bret Hart who said “name a 5 star HHH match” when asked about him and said many of the same things. Competent wrestler with a good look but never had a list of must-see matches like his contemporaries did.
Hunter is the king of gimmick matches, which to most fans are must-see over Bret's best matches.
Any match HHH had with Mick foley is 5 stars imo. The Street Fight and the HIAC are classics.
@@quentinkaasa47 AHAHAHAHAHA
@@CarlMarxPunk ironic that both got stipulations in them.
@@BlackenedLiam What's ironic about it?
It's all about the game!!!
He had world titles, got Stephanie and the company. Hez pretty fucking boss 😎👍
Triple H is like the best B+ player of all time. When you need someone to face the top guy
I've said it before and I say it again Triple H is B+ talent with a type A personality and type A personalities can't to be anything less than number 1 much less number 5 or even 7
2000 heel triple h was amazing. he was A+ that year.
Triple H was equally the top guy with The Rock after Austin left for surgery. And he is objectively a top 20 all-time draw.
To call Hunter a B+ player is like calling The Undertaker the same thing. Things are more complicated than you HHHaters make them out to be.
ISetYourFaceOnFire that promo he cut on why he attacked Austin was the best HHH promo of all time. In the ring, he can work at a good rate, he’s no Eddie Guerrero but he has a good understanding of the psychology. But his promos in the attitude era were the best he was on the mic.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire won wrestler of the year over rock taker and kurt
I agree with Jim on everything but i always thought Hunter saying he didnt mean the apology was in character.
How often are HHH matches mentioned in anyone's "best matches" list outside of WWE sanctioned material.?
Heh. Good point.
He was a fantastic heel. It was unfortunate to be around when the Rock and Austin were there in the sense that they were miles ahead of him but he was right up there. Everyone loved to hate him after the glory years of dx.
He could do "smug" better than anyone. Look at the drawing in the thumbnail with how HHH tipped his head back to make the viewer look up his nose, The guy who ran foxcatcher did that in real life as a powermove.
Slayer
just
waste
never forget that Rick Flair is The Dirtiest Player in The Game
*Ric
“Dick Flair” -Shane Douglas
"Ass kissing, butt sucking, backstabber"
- Scott Steiner
and a racist...
Very insightful. Sometimes I thought HHH talked too long in ring segments. But my favorite Segments was when he was going against Cactus Jack it felt so personal. HHH a dictator and Cactus Jack a lunatic.
Stone Cold, The Rock, Mankind, HHH, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Cena the 90's-early 2000's era was so packed with talent on top
Bret
My favorite Triple H moment was when he came out as behind being involved in the stone cold hit and run. The way he foreshadowed it telling Austin "DTA don't trust anyone as a face at the time. The low point for me is the PG era when he talking about putting smiles on faces like its the circus. You can't say that and be a heel.
They only did that because they saw that it wasn’t gonna be a big payoff having it just be rikishi.
...."Well here's DEWEYs question" 😂😂😂😂
I feel like I'm on crazy pills... NXT sucks, it's boring, shitty wrestling with generic, small, non-charismatic guys. It doesn't draw. HHH doesn't draw and what he is turning the WWE in to wont draw (and isn't).
Right on you know wrestling 👍
Dude! I was just watching that episode of Andy Griffith show. The darlings were awesome.
Jim has said this about HHH for years still holds up but he is best heel of my generation, 1995 till today. In my opinion
@Dante Carroll Edge was the better heel during that time
@@supermanXL Edge was a really solid heel. I think Triple H was better as a heel to tweener from his initial feud with John Cena to 2010ish.
@@sketchstevens5859 Edge could do it all and he was a better evil genius then HHH
I hated edge more than anyone ever, I miss him so much
@@supermanXL well character pov what's triple he's most dastardly deed then name edges I'd have to give it to hunter and you know it will come out to play when he's in Vince spot especially with the 3 generation talents so may be children to the father's triple h has fueded with
“Back stage maneuvering” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Triple H has the best matches with the best guys that he can make the most money with--Jim Cornette. Still stands to this day
So true
True that's what's missing on the main roster theirs no must see rivalry only thing that comes to mind is champia vs Gargano I mean they tried it with Ambrose and Rollins but it fell flat and that's a easy angle I'm talking about the second fued I did enjoy the first but triple has guess you can remember First being the Rock also Foley, HBK and Batista and Taker I didn't name Austin cause t they only have had one match worth mentioning and that's at No Way Out 2001 I believe but WWE today lacks the fueds where people are having like the IC title with rock and triple h where to guys are reaching the top business is just to fast in 2019
^Survivor Series 2000 and No Mercy '99 are worth mentioning. They also had a big brawl at a dome show in the lead up to No Mercy.
Triple H's "selfish" attitude is what made him one of the best heels in the early 2000s, honestly. Nobody as big of a prick as he was would of never been able to pull off the character he did at the time, in my opinion.
#Respect
THE PROPHECY yeah. Him and Jericho , all those bloody matches, he did his thing, idk what that guy is talking about how people changed the channel on triple H and how he didn’t get people in seats. He most definitely did
Triple H is easy one of the best hands down.. technical wise and has that rare mind for the business. Well rounded and his promos kill every time 🤷🏽♂️.. have to disagree with ole Corny on this one..
Yup .his mic work was outstanding . Anyone who gets Motorhead to play there entrance ,is gold in my books.
Best heel of all time. One of the best technical wrestlers of all time. Best ring general of all time too.
JBL was a far better heel
He got Bruno Sammartino to be in the Hall of Fame, so I forgive him
Joseph Nicolino the induction means what, in the grand scheme of things? A speech? Acknowledgement by the company? The company writes its own narrative at will on anything and everything, and if they wanted to, could undo it all tomorrow.
Great!!! He finally joined the ranks of such as Pete Rose, Snoop Dogg and Drew Carey, fucking....awesome
WWEkids hof is a joke buddy.
HHH is the greatest heel ever, period. No one has done more dastardly deeds on TV than him. JR used to lose his mind commentating his matches because he'd be so enraged at H smashing fools with the hammer
He's definitely one of the greatest heels outside the ring
@@markl5998 Yeah, I can't argue with that lol. I don't generally choose my favorite performers based on who they are in real life tho
Better than Flair, Hollywood Hogan in wcw, Harley Race, Roddy Piper? Your delusional!
Not even close to the greatest heel. Not an intimidating heel, not a great sneaky heel either.
@@steveg2251 I agree! HHH did rip off the Franchise gimmick from Shane Douglas from ECW from 92 to 99 but was a cheap, carbon copy of Shane Douglas in 99 wwf as the Game anyways.
Thanks for speaking the truth Jim. Triple H was the top heel to work with the real stars. Rock, Austin, Jericho, Angle.
When he shaved the beard and became a Ric Flair tribute act, business dived. As a wrestler, Triple H did a lot more harm than good.
I'll give him credit for NXT.
@Nilkamal mahato
Hhh, regal and Michael cole
It was all of em plus dusty
Jericho and Angle were never up to par on Hunter's star level.
@@quentinkaasa47 the hell they weren't
Go up to any stranger in the street and ask them what a Chris Jericho is. They'll look at you dumbfounded. Then go up to another stranger and spit water in their face. Instant flashback to HHH smashing Austin with a sledgehammer.
Jim was more than fair here. Didn’t let his personal feelings go overboard and called it how he saw it
I think Triple H has a big nose.
His forehead game is worse.
good for sniffing out dimes
What happens if Triple H walks with an erection into a wall?
He hits his nose
Brian Chill wow u hit the nail on the head UNDERRATED COMENT
He looks a lot like Sam Eagle from the muppets. They’re practically twins.
I like HHH. He was good heel and he had his moments
Triple H is in his own category. Definitely one of the most successful wrestlers.
HHH was one of few wrestlers who were over even as a heel .. Still remember when he returned from the Quad injury I’ve never heard a pop like that EVER !
"Because he has the keys to the kingdom" - Jim Cornette
Triple H is one of the best ever in the WWE. Telling a story in the ring and the build plus he was in all the memorable rivalries. His rivalry with Foley, Rock and HBK are three of the best ever and 1999 through to 2004 he was great. He says he loves the wrestling busniess and now he's in a great postion to shape it in his vision and I have no issue with that at all.
Its also sad that a 50 yr old against another one have to help sell a wrestling ppv because young talent doesn't have with the creative team.
Basically I even heard back in the day that when HHH was given a script to follow and HHH would ask if he was going over and if he wouldn’t he would start ripping the scripts and I even heard something like Vince Mchmahon let HHH do whatever he want because HHH was marrying vinces daughter and it was like if your marrying the bosses daughter you could do whatever u want
Others have said it yeah he was the guy that worked with THE guy ..he was never main even fotc material and if he never married into the family he wouldn't have but maybe one or two title reigns
I tell you what, I was born in 1990, and started watching WWF when I was about 8. Naturally, me and all my friends held backyard wrestling matches and always performed finishers. Nothing hurt quite as bad as when we did our awful interpretation of the Pedigree.
I was convinced it was a truly brutal move and always respected it as a finisher.
psshhh that's nothin I gave my friend a ddt on concret once lmao
Triple H in early 2000s used to really piss me off as a kid lmao he was a great heel
Great promos = Randy Savage , Rick Flair
You people are silly. VINCE will never leave his company to HHH while he have a SON. The company has always went from father to son
Well...it went from father to son once. So your statement is a little misleading
@@Arm2586 no Vince grandfather founded the company. Then he gave it to Vince father, then vince father gave the company to Vince. Vince has brothers and sisters but he is the oldest
Triple h looks like bobby hill in that thumbnail hahahahaha 😂😁😂😁😂😁
I was never a fan of HHH. I found him boring. I'd tune into Raw and if it began with "TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAAME!", I'd change the channel. The McMahon/Helmsley era made me stop watching wrestling for a while. He didn't seem to me to be in the same league as Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Jericho, etc.
Same exact situation here
Triple H was using "Higher Brain Pattern" during the McMahon/Helmsley era. Nice try though.
Disagree with Corny on this one. Triple H is awesome. Very good in the ring, stepped up on a main event scale regularly, great look, and great on the mike. And a tough as nails hard ass worker. Yes he married the bosses daughter. Yes that obviously has tremendously helped his career, but he’s proven time and again he’s an all time great.
HHH is an upper midcard talent with a push. Never had any business winning a prestigious title. But he's in good company because most championships since him should never have been champ.
I guess he could have been the heel that switched the belt from Backlund to Hogan. Or Bruno to Pedro. But never the focal champ.
I swear all these anti HHH people are just plain stupid, you know DX became more popular and profitable when triple h was the leader right? You know he was voted the best wrestler in 2000 right? You know he’s been one of the greatest heels to the point people hated him winning all the time, you know from late 1999-2001 he was the best wrestler on the planet and you can look back on the wwe network nobody comes close.
@@kamfisher1714 look back? I was there watching when it happened. And I actually liked him.
I just never thought he was the star they made him out to be. And in ring he jus lacked something. I never saw a workrate better than Benoit, Jericho or Kobashi that year. Or Angle.
He was pushed hard and positioned to have high impact matches in 2000.
And DX was raunchy cheap humour at the right place at the right time.
If I were Eric Bischoff I would have ended them completely with one decision; when he showed up at Nitro and parked outside the arena with megaphones I would have sent a camera crew with Meng, Scott Norton, and Barbarian and I would have told then to go out there and beat those guys up on camera for real. But I digress. An over heel stable and being cosiness among the best ever are two different things.
Επαμεινωνδας Κοσμας out be? Dude you must’ve been blind or deaf, the pops he had in 2000 were big either if he was booed or cheered, when Austin was out he carried the load with the rock that whole year especially late 1999, he was having great matches with taka michonoku on raw dude, triple h was better than Jericho and Benoit in 2000 I don’t know how you forget he was the biggest heel in the company while they were getting the highest ratings ever by a wrestling company, he’s not that good on the mic but he isn’t bad either
Επαμεινωνδας Κοσμας he was positioned into that role of having impact matches ? No he was simply better than everyone else, the rock is not a better wrestler than triple h if you think so you don’t know anything about wrestling, wwf at the time didn’t make triple h have the great matches he did it himself, plus he was a 2x wwf champion before the storyline with Stephanie too, Vince has always loved HHH because he actually gives a fuck about the business
@@kamfisher1714 ever? Nah. The Saturday Night Main Events of the late 80s were still the highest ratings ever. And on cable TBS with GCW in the late 70s was a powerhouse. 98 to 2000 was a fad. And his pops paled in comparison to Rock.
But I dealt you your delusional HHH on forums plenty back in 2000 telling you all it was overhyped. Kobashi was still better in 2000. And in 2001 Mutoh showed everyone what an all time great year looks like.
I know I'll never convince you otherwise. I don't care to. Just don't think I didn't see all those matches, reactions, and sales reports back then.