Big shoutout to my guy Friday for editing down the majority of this video! Made my finishing touches way easier to go through, he came in super clutch. Show him some love in the comments too! ALSO! Thoughts on the overlayed gameplay clips everyone? I try to add those when I can, curious to know if there are any strong feelings about keeping them/leaving them out. Let me know! And please, if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel! Super close to 1k!!!
Unova Elite Four: We're the Elite Four. D I E Alola Elite Four: We're the Elite Four. E X T R A D I E Paldea Elite Four: We're the Elite Four. Prepare to D I E
I orefer the Gym version, I think the elite version wasn't just pitched down but also sped up slightly, something about it is just off. I still love it, but for me it's in A.
I think gen 6’s theme is underrated. It has that bass drop in the middle that makes my musical heart sing in delight. Too bad the battle is over most of the time before you can hear it
hahaha yeah the fight itself is pretty free, but the theme definitely does some cool things too! If they had just found ways to not have so much downtime of nothing happening in the theme in between all the cool stuff, it'd certainly be higher on here. Appreciate you checking this one out though!
Maybe cuz I'm a smash player, I thought ellite 4 from Alola went crazy but it was because I'm used to the mix with Lunala/Solgaleo that made it so great music
Hahaha thank you!! That one is definitely on my radar, I've got a couple that I'm deciding between currently so we'll see which one ends up being next!
Dunno if it was mentioned in the stream VoD, but the part at 13:47 is a slowed down version of the Hoenn E4 theme. (Specifically this part 3:00). Funnily enough, both are used right before the song loops again, kind of a neat homage.
Was definitely a big fan of the Sword and Shield gym theme, one of the big standouts from the gen 8 OST! Sometimes I like the cheering and sometimes I'd rather it not be there, but I think as long as battles don't drag on too long with the cheering in the background, it adds a great flare to the song. Hope you enjoy the vid when you do get around to watching it!
@@Brassydoots fair enough, if the fight drags on it can get a bit tired, but i love how its just the last pokemon, a last stand and the true challenge, as the gigantamax it, the crowd goes wild, we gotta remember gym leaders are usually really strong, so getting to see them down to their last would be truly exhilerating
Feel like the quality of the gameplay should never take away from the banger music. I like a lot about Scarlet and Violet but the soundtrack is the best part of the game, bar none. So much great music.
My first game was Pokémon Ultra Sun, so I really came here to see your reaction to the Elite Four theme. Needless to say, I’m happy with the placement. ALOLA PRIDE BABYYYYYYY!
hahaha thank you! I always find myself jamming out to these songs, they're just so good! Many of them hold a special place in my heart so those are hard NOT to bop out to, but even ones I haven't heard before catch me off guard sometimes and I just have to start moving along to them lol. Appreciate you checking this one out!
aye bro i subbed to you for these ranking of pokemon themes some of ya takes i do and dont agree with but ik one thing we finna jam on these regaurdless
@@bricecass2208 hahaha for sure, thank you man! I never expect anyone to agree with all of my takes on these, I just do it for entertainment and discussion! Appreciate you checking them out 🤝
Damn you had me with the title… but sadly it wasn’t with Masters remixes. Those E4 remixes for every character are the best in the pokemon series. Most are better than the base version for sure. Especially Kalos goes hard, each and everyone of the 4.
@@blackglurakx2409 yeah the masters remixes are hit or miss for me, I don’t include them because I already have so many themes to get through usually, gotta keep the video from dragging on hahaha. I’m sure some of the themes are solid though!
Was waiting for this (& also this time was moving my fingers, hands or bobbing my head at the same time as you were to the music). After seeing other E4 rankings (even a Masters one), I wondered what your thoughts were on them. Glad to hear we can shake hands in agreement about Gen5 & 9 having the most banging tracks outta the whole list, tho I'd make a case for Marnie belonging there too, as explained much better by a separate comment that a song being repurposed for the same character used earlier in the game isn't the same as & fair to compare with say, a set of trainers (Gym leaders) that have their song get reworked & used for entirely different trainer batch (Elite4) when you're thinking they both are in same vein. We're just talking about 1 character whose main theme is modified later on that can make a significant difference in enjoyment while playing (this isn't like Sinnoh E4 theme where it's barely changed) & not shared by anyone else besides the Team Yell intro. Your question may next go to "Hop has a 2nd entirely original battle theme for the league, but why doesn't Marnie?" well cuz he's uncontestedly the main rival of the game (unfortunately... ), so he receives extra attention over her & Bede.
Hahahaha I'm glad you were able to dance along with me! I've had a lot of people bring up Pokemon masters over the last few years on these tierlists, and the main reason I don't rank those is because of how much extra time they would add to these lists, as well as it not being a true mainline entry. I plan on giving a lot of them a listen at some point and sharing my thoughts though! As for the argument for Marnie's theme, I definitely hear you and mostly agree tbh. This was one of those situations where it was tough to figure out how I really wanted to rank it and just had to make a decision to keep things moving. I'd likely put it in the top tier if I had to do it over again, but I'm also personally content with where it ended up either way. Definitely a totally fair argument that I wouldn't really argue against honestly. Thanks for watching this one!!
Smash Bros Ultimate made a remix of the Sun/Moon Elite 4 theme that goes absolutely crazy. It fills in the parts the 3ds couldn't quite do justice. It also has some of the Solgaleo/Lunala theme in it, which mixed in quite well. My only complaint is it loops in kind of a weird way
@@ericeasley7633 I know exactly which remix you’re talking about, and it is very good! I kinda have the same feelings about how it loops too, was always a bit jarring to hear in longer matches, but definitely still a fun listen!
There's a little Easter egg in the music behind BW's elite four theme and the low health theme, the elite four theme is really similar to a slowed down version of it, implying that some serious battling is about to go down.
Great Tierlist! I would love for you to give the themes of Pokémon Masters EX a chance, each member of the Elite Four has their own battle theme (except for Hassel who is not yet in the game)
@@fabianreyes8593 hey thank you! I’ve had a lot of people ask about Pokémon masters over the last few years, I might give that game’s themes a video at some point down the line! I’m not a big fan of the game itself but from what I hear the music is solid so perhaps one of these days we’ll tackle them. Thanks for checking this one out!!
I see the Chaos of Pokémon Battle Royale infront of my Eyes when Listening to the Gen 5 Theme. Also as i said i am a Gen 6 Kid but aside from Flordelis Theme Flare Theme and Prof Sycamors Theme nothing in X and Y is Worth Mentioning Musikwise. So im not Telling you to "Go Hear them Again". I kinda Forgot Gen 7 Slaps so Hard altho it Sounds like a Elden Ring Boss Theme. Hop is Probably the Only NOT Douchebag Rival who is Decent and had a good Story. Like he Adores his Brother who is the Champion he feels such a Pressure of Becoming just as Great as him he Stumbles from one Fight into the Next and Makes Unnececary Enemys untill he Realizes to be a Great Pokemon Trained you dont have to be the Strongest but be a Type of Trainer you want to be and eventually becomes the Profs Assistant. Anyway E4 Themes NGL kinda Mid most are just Remakes or Updates to Existing ones and Exept Gen 5 None are that Memorable😊
@@Meveloon800 haha the gen 6 joke in the video was not directed at you don’t worry, this was recorded long before that conversation. I don’t like Hop’s story quite as much as you do but I certainly can see where you’re coming from there. It’s pretty solid and at least stays true to itself throughout the game which I can appreciate. Overall though these elite four themes were a bit more underwhelming than I thought they’d be, save for the bangers at the top. The scarlet/violet themes really helped this list.
I think what may have made the SwSh theme fall flat for you was the fact that the theme is dynamic and changes depending on what happens in battle, but it's hard to represent in RUclips loops, though they usually put it at the end and don't have that part loop. There's a different part for when you've just beaten a Pokemon, for when you've just lost a Pokemon, and when you're on the final Pokemon. The final Pokemon theme is the most substantial, and that's where it really ramps up and gets intense, but I don't think you listened enough to get to that part, so you ended up not taking it into consideration while ranking.
@@thekirbyguy4576 hey Kirby guy! The lack of taking the final Pokémon theme into account was not intentional/some scheme against ranking sword and shield fairly haha, I listened to a handful of different videos on RUclips and never heard a final Pokémon theme in them, and having only ever heard it once in game many years ago, I didn’t remember that the final Pokémon theme was even a thing in that game until recently. I’ve tried to find the final Pokémon theme isolated and can’t seem to find anything, so if you know somewhere on RUclips I can hear it let me know! I’d be happy to give you my thoughts on it.
@Brassydoots It's in the 2nd half of Pokeli's upload of the Elite Leaders theme. One half is the normal version, and the other is the final theme ruclips.net/video/r5LyE9yq6os/видео.htmlsi=_8owT7J6vckRb6__
Alright gents, thanks for helping me find that part of the song. I just went back and listened to it and even checked my twitch VOD to make sure I hadn't missed it, and sure enough I cut off the loop right before it was going to transition to the second part of the theme (that initial loop lasts for quite a while hahaha). I think the second phase of the theme adds some nice flavor to the song for sure, I don't mind the crowd noise even if it gets a little tiring to listen to after a while. It doesn't do enough to move it into A-tier for me personally, but it does make me feel a lot better about the overall theme being more dynamic than I originally gave it credit for. Thank you for bringing that second part to my attention!!!
Great tier list! In my opinion the original Hoenn elite 4 theme is just as good as the unova one (both are absolute bangers), but that's a minor nitpick. I also disagree regarding Marnie's Theme. Remember: Those fights at the end of the main game are not fights against an established group of four strong trainers (no "classic" Elite 4). They are fights against other participants of the gym challenge. In my opinion, the theme of a trainer is part of his/her identity (unless it shouldn't fit the trainer it belongs to). So it would feel wrong to use a completely different theme for that final battle. Re - using the own theme while making it more epic to fit the situation (fighting for the title of being champion inside a stadium filled with lots of spectators)... I can't think of anything more fitting to tell the opponent "This is me! This is me in my (supposedly) best state and I'm giving all I've got in order to win this fight! So Marnie's theme shouldn't be ranked lower for being "repurposed" Plus: Marnie is my favourite character from Sw/Sh and her theme is my favourite theme. So for me, it will always be an Absolute Banger! :-D
@@roadrunner9332 hey! Thanks for disagreeing so respectfully, I actually very much can see your point there. It’s a fair one too! I think for me, I’d have just preferred the repurposed themes to be a bit more remixed than they were. They could’ve used the motif from each one to make something fresh yet familiar for their big moments at the end, but I also recognize that would’ve added a lot of work to the composers plates too haha. I’m with you on Marnie’s theme though, it’s such a great theme and one I go back to all the time. Thank you for checking out this video, I appreciate the convo!
Hey! I had someone else bring that up too, but I can't find that version anywhere on RUclips. I asked if they knew where I could listen to it but they never provided a link, so if you have the secret sauce I'd love to hear the last bit of that theme! Appreciate you checking this one out regardless!
ruclips.net/video/fuVntKQ2jGQ/видео.htmlsi=SlPSSTGEYD6gUOP4 This channel has a lot of Pokémon’s soundtracks archived- as well as composers and arrangers credited based on their previous works we know of. Could be useful if you want to continue these types of videos.
Lemme ask you, was Marnie theme copyright claimed? I had this issue because some twat made a barely any different remix of that and fed it to Content ID
@@Raptorade no thankfully it wasn’t claimed this time, though that sounds like exactly something that would happen on RUclips lol. Sorry you had to deal with that at one point, I’ve dealt with a few claims previously but they thankfully all went away eventually.
I’m gonna say it now, I have never really liked the gen 5 elite four theme yet everyone else does, I can’t come around to enjoying it, gen 3 is for sure the best elite four theme
@@Cameron-r7z and that’s fine! Everyone has their own preferences. I’m definitely with ya on the gen 3 theme being great though! Super iconic theme for sure.
Hey! I don't have much experience with Masters, as I'm not a huge fan of the game itself. I've heard that some of themes are pretty solid but I'd probably have to rank them all against each other, because adding them into these tier lists would make these videos WAY longer hahaha. Maybe one of these days I'll listen to them and throw them on a list!
@@Brassydoots no worries! yeah, technically listening to all of them is equal to listening to ALL the battle themes from ALL the main series games. i’ll be waiting for any feedback/reactions, hope you’ll enjoy some of them!
@@paul5201 if you’re referring to rival themes I’ve already done one for those! I also have one for the evil team grunt themes. Evil team leader themes are coming in the future!
@@sonatawashere LOL I sometimes forget themes and either remember them as I’m doing the list live or someone will remind me in the chat. Though I think even then I’ve missed a theme or two before, I can’t remember hahaha. Thanks for checking this one out!
We are basically the same person when listening to music, gotta move with it lol. But yeah, personally i miss the more... I guess traditionally pokemon sounding e4 themes, they've gotten weird and experimental with em gen 5 onward, but it's been a mixed bag on if i like em or not. Even the ones i do like, I'd listen to Hoenn or Sinnoh's over them any day still lol.
@@MagillanicaLouM hahaha dude I HAVE to jam out to them, especially when it’s one I know I like! Glad I’m not the only one that does that 😅 I hear you though, the e4 themes have been really hit or miss after gen 5. I like the direction the recent ones have gone at least in gen 9, but gen 6 and 7 were definitely…. interesting… Appreciate you checking this one out though, and thanks for subscribing too!!
I love all those themes homie, I'd just prefer they didn't repurpose themes they already used for different situations. That's just me though, if you like them more than the gen 5 one, that's fine, you do you!
Big shoutout to my guy Friday for editing down the majority of this video! Made my finishing touches way easier to go through, he came in super clutch. Show him some love in the comments too!
ALSO! Thoughts on the overlayed gameplay clips everyone? I try to add those when I can, curious to know if there are any strong feelings about keeping them/leaving them out. Let me know! And please, if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel! Super close to 1k!!!
Those that say "The elite four themes in the odd numbered (main series) games go harder" are definitely right.
@@BlueBilly I’ve never heard someone say this until now, but this hat does seem to be pretty accurate hahaha!
In the comments sections under videos where creators compile every elite four theme, commenters do say that
@@BlueBilly ahhhh that’s where you’re seeing it, gotcha! That makes sense then hahaha
Unova Elite Four:
We're the Elite Four.
D I E
Alola Elite Four:
We're the Elite Four.
E X T R A D I E
Paldea Elite Four:
We're the Elite Four.
Prepare to D I E
Glad you're doing more of these. Love em.
@@truegreen7 always a pleasure to have you stop by to watch these my man, thank you so much!!
Gen 5 is 100% a certified banger.
@@Gunni4091 it goes SO hard, such an iconic theme
Favorite theme with gen 7's
Gen 5 music overall just goes so hard.
I don't care what anyone says, Gen 4 may be slightly changed Gym theme... BUT IT IS STILL A TOTAL BANGER
@@lewycraft you’re not wrong hahaha, easy absolute banger tier theme if it was gym leader themes!
I orefer the Gym version, I think the elite version wasn't just pitched down but also sped up slightly, something about it is just off. I still love it, but for me it's in A.
I think gen 6’s theme is underrated. It has that bass drop in the middle that makes my musical heart sing in delight. Too bad the battle is over most of the time before you can hear it
hahaha yeah the fight itself is pretty free, but the theme definitely does some cool things too! If they had just found ways to not have so much downtime of nothing happening in the theme in between all the cool stuff, it'd certainly be higher on here. Appreciate you checking this one out though!
2:14 Hoenn
4:50 Hoenn remakes
7:30 Sinnoh
10:00 Sinnoh remakes
12:29 Unova
15:15 Kalos
20:10 Alola
23:23 Galar
27:36 Galar champion cup Hop
29:46 Galar champion cup Marnie
32:40 Paldea
35:25 Paldea BB
Unova's will always be my fav ngl
@@Hollowdin it’ll be a hard one to top for sure. They really cooked with that one.
Maybe cuz I'm a smash player, I thought ellite 4 from Alola went crazy but it was because I'm used to the mix with Lunala/Solgaleo that made it so great music
@@Grima9312 no you’re definitely valid, all the smash remixes go crazy hard. I’m with you there hahaha
You're so good at doing these tier lists I swear. Next up: wild battle themes?
Hahaha thank you!! That one is definitely on my radar, I've got a couple that I'm deciding between currently so we'll see which one ends up being next!
Dancing to the Black and White theme. What a bop!
@@KeelysMadd an all timer right there. Such a great theme!
Dunno if it was mentioned in the stream VoD, but the part at 13:47 is a slowed down version of the Hoenn E4 theme. (Specifically this part 3:00). Funnily enough, both are used right before the song loops again, kind of a neat homage.
@@SimAbes wait I never noticed this before but you’re so right! That is so dope actually, thanks for the insight!
I honestly love your tier list. The absolute bangers are my top 3 elite four themes of all time!
@@YljaTheBowler hey thank you so much!! Glad at least someone out there agrees with some of my rankings hahaha
Havent watched the video, but i gotta say, sword and shield gym themes were phenomenal, the crowd cheering and chanting was the cherry on top
Was definitely a big fan of the Sword and Shield gym theme, one of the big standouts from the gen 8 OST! Sometimes I like the cheering and sometimes I'd rather it not be there, but I think as long as battles don't drag on too long with the cheering in the background, it adds a great flare to the song. Hope you enjoy the vid when you do get around to watching it!
@@Brassydoots fair enough, if the fight drags on it can get a bit tired, but i love how its just the last pokemon, a last stand and the true challenge, as the gigantamax it, the crowd goes wild, we gotta remember gym leaders are usually really strong, so getting to see them down to their last would be truly exhilerating
39:23 For all the shit we give scarlet and violet, and well deserved at that, they really did a good job on the music.
Feel like the quality of the gameplay should never take away from the banger music. I like a lot about Scarlet and Violet but the soundtrack is the best part of the game, bar none. So much great music.
You absolutely should do the masters soundtrack. Each individual elite four member from every region gets a theme and they are BANGERS
@@alexroth882 so I’ve heard! Definitely something I’ll have to look into at some point 🤝 thanks for checking this one out!!
My first game was Pokémon Ultra Sun, so I really came here to see your reaction to the Elite Four theme. Needless to say, I’m happy with the placement.
ALOLA PRIDE BABYYYYYYY!
@@3ch033v3 hahaha I’m glad it was acceptable for ya, hope it was an enjoyable vid overall! Gen 7 theme was solid for sure 🤝
Off-topic from the video, but I love how you just bop out with the themes you like! It's really nice to see people visibly appreciate what they enjoy.
hahaha thank you! I always find myself jamming out to these songs, they're just so good! Many of them hold a special place in my heart so those are hard NOT to bop out to, but even ones I haven't heard before catch me off guard sometimes and I just have to start moving along to them lol. Appreciate you checking this one out!
aye bro i subbed to you for these ranking of pokemon themes some of ya takes i do and dont agree with but ik one thing we finna jam on these regaurdless
@@bricecass2208 hahaha for sure, thank you man! I never expect anyone to agree with all of my takes on these, I just do it for entertainment and discussion! Appreciate you checking them out 🤝
YESS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE saving this for later can't wait to watch his rxn to gen 5 lol
@@nabilelhageali4068 definitely one of the harder batches of songs I’ve had to rank, hope you enjoy when you get around to watching it! 🤝
i didn't play sw/sh but marnie's theme is nuts
I love marnie's theme, it goes so hard. One of my favorite songs from that game!
I love that there’s a slight reference in the BBA theme to the original Unova E4 at the end
@@puregaming2002 SAME! BBA theme is so dope
Damn you had me with the title… but sadly it wasn’t with Masters remixes. Those E4 remixes for every character are the best in the pokemon series. Most are better than the base version for sure. Especially Kalos goes hard, each and everyone of the 4.
@@blackglurakx2409 yeah the masters remixes are hit or miss for me, I don’t include them because I already have so many themes to get through usually, gotta keep the video from dragging on hahaha. I’m sure some of the themes are solid though!
This was a video worth hyping up over the past many days ❤
I know how much people love the tier lists, wanted to make sure those tuning in knew there was something fun coming up.
You should try the individual remixes of the themes for Pokemon Masters EX too! The soundtrack in that game is insane overall.
@@gigifabulous that’s what people have been telling me! Will definitely have to check those out at some point down the road!!
Was waiting for this (& also this time was moving my fingers, hands or bobbing my head at the same time as you were to the music). After seeing other E4 rankings (even a Masters one), I wondered what your thoughts were on them. Glad to hear we can shake hands in agreement about Gen5 & 9 having the most banging tracks outta the whole list, tho I'd make a case for Marnie belonging there too, as explained much better by a separate comment that a song being repurposed for the same character used earlier in the game isn't the same as & fair to compare with say, a set of trainers (Gym leaders) that have their song get reworked & used for entirely different trainer batch (Elite4) when you're thinking they both are in same vein. We're just talking about 1 character whose main theme is modified later on that can make a significant difference in enjoyment while playing (this isn't like Sinnoh E4 theme where it's barely changed) & not shared by anyone else besides the Team Yell intro. Your question may next go to "Hop has a 2nd entirely original battle theme for the league, but why doesn't Marnie?" well cuz he's uncontestedly the main rival of the game (unfortunately... ), so he receives extra attention over her & Bede.
Hahahaha I'm glad you were able to dance along with me! I've had a lot of people bring up Pokemon masters over the last few years on these tierlists, and the main reason I don't rank those is because of how much extra time they would add to these lists, as well as it not being a true mainline entry. I plan on giving a lot of them a listen at some point and sharing my thoughts though! As for the argument for Marnie's theme, I definitely hear you and mostly agree tbh. This was one of those situations where it was tough to figure out how I really wanted to rank it and just had to make a decision to keep things moving. I'd likely put it in the top tier if I had to do it over again, but I'm also personally content with where it ended up either way. Definitely a totally fair argument that I wouldn't really argue against honestly. Thanks for watching this one!!
Smash Bros Ultimate made a remix of the Sun/Moon Elite 4 theme that goes absolutely crazy. It fills in the parts the 3ds couldn't quite do justice. It also has some of the Solgaleo/Lunala theme in it, which mixed in quite well. My only complaint is it loops in kind of a weird way
@@ericeasley7633 I know exactly which remix you’re talking about, and it is very good! I kinda have the same feelings about how it loops too, was always a bit jarring to hear in longer matches, but definitely still a fun listen!
There's a little Easter egg in the music behind BW's elite four theme and the low health theme, the elite four theme is really similar to a slowed down version of it, implying that some serious battling is about to go down.
Gen 9 DLC, Hoenn and Unova are the best
@@g0567 this guy has good taste folks 🤝
Great Tierlist!
I would love for you to give the themes of Pokémon Masters EX a chance, each member of the Elite Four has their own battle theme (except for Hassel who is not yet in the game)
@@fabianreyes8593 hey thank you! I’ve had a lot of people ask about Pokémon masters over the last few years, I might give that game’s themes a video at some point down the line! I’m not a big fan of the game itself but from what I hear the music is solid so perhaps one of these days we’ll tackle them. Thanks for checking this one out!!
Pokemon black was my first Pokemon Game.
@@Vahria-2_Rivaha-4_ not a bad one to start on that’s for sure! Great game.
for me it was white
I choose white especially because i liked Reshiram more than Zekrom as aTeenager.
I see the Chaos of Pokémon Battle Royale infront of my Eyes when Listening to the Gen 5 Theme.
Also as i said i am a Gen 6 Kid but aside from Flordelis Theme Flare Theme and Prof Sycamors Theme nothing in X and Y is Worth Mentioning Musikwise. So im not Telling you to "Go Hear them Again".
I kinda Forgot Gen 7 Slaps so Hard altho it Sounds like a Elden Ring Boss Theme.
Hop is Probably the Only NOT Douchebag Rival who is Decent and had a good Story.
Like he Adores his Brother who is the Champion he feels such a Pressure of Becoming just as Great as him he Stumbles from one Fight into the Next and Makes Unnececary Enemys untill he Realizes to be a Great Pokemon Trained you dont have to be the Strongest but be a Type of Trainer you want to be and eventually becomes the Profs Assistant.
Anyway E4 Themes NGL kinda Mid most are just Remakes or Updates to Existing ones and Exept Gen 5 None are that Memorable😊
@@Meveloon800 haha the gen 6 joke in the video was not directed at you don’t worry, this was recorded long before that conversation. I don’t like Hop’s story quite as much as you do but I certainly can see where you’re coming from there. It’s pretty solid and at least stays true to itself throughout the game which I can appreciate. Overall though these elite four themes were a bit more underwhelming than I thought they’d be, save for the bangers at the top. The scarlet/violet themes really helped this list.
I think what may have made the SwSh theme fall flat for you was the fact that the theme is dynamic and changes depending on what happens in battle, but it's hard to represent in RUclips loops, though they usually put it at the end and don't have that part loop. There's a different part for when you've just beaten a Pokemon, for when you've just lost a Pokemon, and when you're on the final Pokemon. The final Pokemon theme is the most substantial, and that's where it really ramps up and gets intense, but I don't think you listened enough to get to that part, so you ended up not taking it into consideration while ranking.
@@thekirbyguy4576 hey Kirby guy! The lack of taking the final Pokémon theme into account was not intentional/some scheme against ranking sword and shield fairly haha, I listened to a handful of different videos on RUclips and never heard a final Pokémon theme in them, and having only ever heard it once in game many years ago, I didn’t remember that the final Pokémon theme was even a thing in that game until recently. I’ve tried to find the final Pokémon theme isolated and can’t seem to find anything, so if you know somewhere on RUclips I can hear it let me know! I’d be happy to give you my thoughts on it.
@Brassydoots It's in the 2nd half of Pokeli's upload of the Elite Leaders theme. One half is the normal version, and the other is the final theme
ruclips.net/video/r5LyE9yq6os/видео.htmlsi=_8owT7J6vckRb6__
@@megarayquaza2240 just saw this, ignore my last reply to you haha, thanks!!
Alright gents, thanks for helping me find that part of the song. I just went back and listened to it and even checked my twitch VOD to make sure I hadn't missed it, and sure enough I cut off the loop right before it was going to transition to the second part of the theme (that initial loop lasts for quite a while hahaha). I think the second phase of the theme adds some nice flavor to the song for sure, I don't mind the crowd noise even if it gets a little tiring to listen to after a while. It doesn't do enough to move it into A-tier for me personally, but it does make me feel a lot better about the overall theme being more dynamic than I originally gave it credit for. Thank you for bringing that second part to my attention!!!
The only change in SwSh theme is when the Ace comes out
They needed to use Touhou Trumpets for the ORAS E4 remix
@@blue_the_boy_kisser touhou trumpets would go crazy lmao
@@Brassydoots Not ORAS, but...
ruclips.net/video/yzrR3KOmaR4/видео.htmlsi=vNqqWvvlp5z1B94y
Someone did it for the gen 5 E4
Great tier list!
In my opinion the original Hoenn elite 4 theme is just as good as the unova one (both are absolute bangers), but that's a minor nitpick.
I also disagree regarding Marnie's Theme.
Remember: Those fights at the end of the main game are not fights against an established group of four strong trainers (no "classic" Elite 4). They are fights against other participants of the gym challenge. In my opinion, the theme of a trainer is part of his/her identity (unless it shouldn't fit the trainer it belongs to). So it would feel wrong to use a completely different theme for that final battle. Re - using the own theme while making it more epic to fit the situation (fighting for the title of being champion inside a stadium filled with lots of spectators)... I can't think of anything more fitting to tell the opponent "This is me! This is me in my (supposedly) best state and I'm giving all I've got in order to win this fight!
So Marnie's theme shouldn't be ranked lower for being "repurposed"
Plus: Marnie is my favourite character from Sw/Sh and her theme is my favourite theme. So for me, it will always be an Absolute Banger!
:-D
@@roadrunner9332 hey! Thanks for disagreeing so respectfully, I actually very much can see your point there. It’s a fair one too! I think for me, I’d have just preferred the repurposed themes to be a bit more remixed than they were. They could’ve used the motif from each one to make something fresh yet familiar for their big moments at the end, but I also recognize that would’ve added a lot of work to the composers plates too haha. I’m with you on Marnie’s theme though, it’s such a great theme and one I go back to all the time. Thank you for checking out this video, I appreciate the convo!
out of all the elite 4 themes. gen 7 legit goes the hardest
@@MasterGamer15 it does go crazy hard that’s for sure. Gen 7 has a pretty great soundtrack overall tbh, a lot of iconic themes
Gen 8's Elite Leader theme does change for the last pokemon like the gym leader theme. Did you listen to that version?
Hey! I had someone else bring that up too, but I can't find that version anywhere on RUclips. I asked if they knew where I could listen to it but they never provided a link, so if you have the secret sauce I'd love to hear the last bit of that theme! Appreciate you checking this one out regardless!
ruclips.net/video/fuVntKQ2jGQ/видео.htmlsi=SlPSSTGEYD6gUOP4 This channel has a lot of Pokémon’s soundtracks archived- as well as composers and arrangers credited based on their previous works we know of. Could be useful if you want to continue these types of videos.
Yessss love this
@@JJYvette Glad you liked it JJ!!
The most pog comment in your comments to ever hit your comments man.
@@KeelysMadd omg I know this guy wtffffff
Lemme ask you, was Marnie theme copyright claimed?
I had this issue because some twat made a barely any different remix of that and fed it to Content ID
@@Raptorade no thankfully it wasn’t claimed this time, though that sounds like exactly something that would happen on RUclips lol. Sorry you had to deal with that at one point, I’ve dealt with a few claims previously but they thankfully all went away eventually.
I’m gonna say it now, I have never really liked the gen 5 elite four theme yet everyone else does, I can’t come around to enjoying it, gen 3 is for sure the best elite four theme
@@Cameron-r7z and that’s fine! Everyone has their own preferences. I’m definitely with ya on the gen 3 theme being great though! Super iconic theme for sure.
I thought you meant like the theme as in the patterns of the trainers.
LOL that would be quite the different tier list that's for sure!
Did Bede's theme not count? He was an in-between battle before Nessa-Bea/Allister-Raihan
it's the exact same theme. it doesn't get remixed like hop and marnie
pokemon masters when?
Hey! I don't have much experience with Masters, as I'm not a huge fan of the game itself. I've heard that some of themes are pretty solid but I'd probably have to rank them all against each other, because adding them into these tier lists would make these videos WAY longer hahaha. Maybe one of these days I'll listen to them and throw them on a list!
@@Brassydoots no worries! yeah, technically listening to all of them is equal to listening to ALL the battle themes from ALL the main series games. i’ll be waiting for any feedback/reactions, hope you’ll enjoy some of them!
Pokemon antagonist themes
@@paul5201 if you’re referring to rival themes I’ve already done one for those! I also have one for the evil team grunt themes. Evil team leader themes are coming in the future!
You skipped the BB league and the sinnoh remakes
Edit: nevermind you didn’t skip them
@@sonatawashere LOL I sometimes forget themes and either remember them as I’m doing the list live or someone will remind me in the chat. Though I think even then I’ve missed a theme or two before, I can’t remember hahaha. Thanks for checking this one out!
All the odd numbered gens are too good, 5 is best followed by 7 and 3 in 3rd
@@tehross425 the comments have shown the gen 7 theme a lot of love here, and I’m glad to see it. They did a pretty good job with it, very solid theme!
Calling it now, gen 3 s tier
I respect the confidence hahaha, gen 3 og theme is a great one for sure!
i truly dislike gen 9 elite 4 song because of glitch i had on my first playthrough, this first part non stop is so awfull
We are basically the same person when listening to music, gotta move with it lol. But yeah, personally i miss the more... I guess traditionally pokemon sounding e4 themes, they've gotten weird and experimental with em gen 5 onward, but it's been a mixed bag on if i like em or not. Even the ones i do like, I'd listen to Hoenn or Sinnoh's over them any day still lol.
@@MagillanicaLouM hahaha dude I HAVE to jam out to them, especially when it’s one I know I like! Glad I’m not the only one that does that 😅 I hear you though, the e4 themes have been really hit or miss after gen 5. I like the direction the recent ones have gone at least in gen 9, but gen 6 and 7 were definitely…. interesting… Appreciate you checking this one out though, and thanks for subscribing too!!
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@@justo2484 LETS GO JUSTO WOOOO
@@Brassydoots btw gen 3 og is an absolute banger love the vids bro
@@justo2484 I appreciate that, thank you!! I do love that gen 3 soundfont, it’s got a special place in my heart for sure.
now this is some garbage tastw
Who cares if its just a repurposed theme. How is the gen 5 song better than marnies or even gen 4s
I love all those themes homie, I'd just prefer they didn't repurpose themes they already used for different situations. That's just me though, if you like them more than the gen 5 one, that's fine, you do you!
@Brassydoots no worries, brother. Opinions are opinions.
That's because it is... Theyre bangers for sure, but there are better ones