Miiasaurous "coming back to youtube"
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- **the 2 videos left up are the FIRST apology and this new one**
As I do not have time later this week, here is a video of my initial thoughts on miiasaurous’ comeback to youtube video and how we can look at this through a lens of conflict resolution in the grand scheme of youtube.
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she lied about having bipolar personality disorder not bipolar personality disorder as you implied 2:27
Sorry I got confused in all the mess
*borderline personality disorder
there is no such thing as bipolar personality disorder.
I know it's probably just a typo, but just wanted to correct you. bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder are two completely different disorders, they're not even in the same section of the DSM.
@Leah Bordeaux yes that's a pretty good explanation. bipolar is more to do with mood states (mania and depression, it used to even be called "manic depression" but they changed the name) and BPD is more to do with emotions and an inability to regulate them. miia lied about being bipolar and having a manic episode, but she said that the illness she actually ended up being diagnosed with was BPD instead. personality disorders and mood disorders are definitely different experiences. there's a lot of people that have both, though.
@Leah Bordeaux @Leah Bordeaux for sure. sometimes people even use circular logic when it comes to their "disorder" diagnoses: they exhibit behavior, and the behavior leads to them to being diagnosed with something. then they say that if they do bad behavior, it's because of a disorder. but it's the behavior that lead to the diagnosed disorder, not the other way around ... so it's becomes a circular logic that sometimes doesn't make sense and can often be used as a excuse.
What??
my attitude with influencers now is once they do something i don’t agree with i just stop watching them and don’t give them a second chance after another regurgitated apology. there are SO many channels out there now, there’s an endless supply of chill influencers that i can support. for one miasaurus there’s a dozen actual sex workers and black women creating content and i would much rather support them.
That’s true, because at this point they can’t hold themselves accountable
The way this is facts, influencer gets problematic? Replace them! I’ve done this with so many of my previous ‘faves’ and have ended up finding so many smaller cc with so much personality and a lot more integrity that I love and relate to so much!
frr ive been really trying to get better abt it. sometimes, if im being honest with myself, i can get caught in parasocial relationships, and it can make it harder to step away. but ive been realizing more and more that if someone is constantly pissing me off and making me upset i one way or another, they just arent worth my energy. i still can get stuck wishing that the creator may get better, but usually seeing their piss poor apology and the reaction to it can tip the scales for me
Any recommendations for channels?
@@genevieveroy780 omg heres some of my favorites, sorry if youve heard of them before, but; kuncan dastner, muncat, tara mooknee, some more news, shanspear, tee noir, and jessie gender :)
My issue with her lying and glamorizing the sex work stories is that I was tricked into that lifestyle by a man in his 30s when I was freshly 18. It was creators like her and Tana that made the lifestyle seem cool, funny and “relatable” that had me lying to myself for so long about how hurt I was getting by men and the drug abuse. I was living a delusion that everything was fine until I almost got trafficked (I was kidnapped). Glamorizing the toxic sides of sex work is so dangerous. And please I hope nobody takes this as me saying all sex work is bad. It’s solely about the very toxic, drug abuse and actually dangerous/exploitative side of the industry that very much so exists. People going into ANY sex work need to have true stories to help them know what to look out for. It’s not for the faint of heart and spreading real warnings is imperative to keeping people safe. What she did is the exact opposite of that 😔
Yes that sentiment is so important. It’s also like how Tana would glamorize drug use in a lot of early videos too, in a way making it fun and quirky, not showing any of the true dangers
@@MikasRhetoric Absolutely. Her heavy xanax use was highly influential in the worst of ways.
This is an interesting comment, bc I'm sorry that happened to you but I feel the responsibility falls on RUclips to ensure vids are seen by age-appropriate audiences. FTR I didn't like her content, but as someone who was in my 20s when I saw her stories, it was very obvious that they were fictional. There wasn't any way she could still be school age & have already lived that wild life of a mid-30s addict sx worker. Plus, the way she spoke about both sx & addiction didn't ring true to those who'd experienced that, as Peter Monn pointed out.
@@scarletsletter4466 I was 18 and living that life so I’m not sure what you are talking about. High school age girls absolutely get caught up in that too. Again, an older man tricked me into it. I was fully in the works with celebrity men by 20. I knew several other girls my age in it too (from 20-25). It was not obvious to me that they were fictional stories, as I pointed out you can do a lot to delude yourself into thinking everything is fine as a coping mechanism when caught up in it. Why would her audience have been 30-somethings when she herself was a young adult? I’m sorry but your comment is totally insensitive, biased, and wrong. I’ve spoken about this elsewhere and have had several others share the same sentiments with me about her and Tana.
@@scarletsletter4466 I was also 18+ and already in SW when first watching her videos so your “age appropriate” comment makes no sense. What would RUclips do? Put 25+ as a standard? I’m not a stupid girl. I have a masters degree now in public health and undergrad in biochemical engineering. Just because you caught on that she was lying doesn’t mean everyone else did, and it certainly wasn’t just children.
A part that grinds my gears is that she literally could have just started an asmr channel with all the crazy absurd insane story times like. The blueprint was right there. Make the lying and acting WERK
only 5 seconds in, she replaced the blaccent with hard clapping.
YUP
Hey I'm very curious is hard clapping really meant in a blaccent way?Im from south Asia and people there pretty much does the same especially aunties here(at least from where i live)..I'm being really genuine here
@@clixhe I think it’s just a joke but I’m also no in the community so hopefully someone that will come correct or confirm that
@@clixhe When it comes to talking we also talk with our hands a lot, making certain hand and exaggerated body motions. One of those are clapping the hands. That could be what the OP is talking about. I’m black by the way, and yes I know we don’t all talk the same. But from what I’ve observed at least, AAVE is more than just words. It is an actual dialect and the toneof phrasing matters, as well as body language.
She's gonna be ghetto af regardless like ... let her live lmao
As soon as I saw the video I just sighed. I was a casual viewer of her channel. Mia does have very creative wordplay in her commentary videos. That's what made her entertaining to me. There's a talent under all those lies and its disappointing that she felt the need to be "more". As far as what will become of her, I truly hope she gets better. Just with her actions instead of her words this time.
I hope so too
It is so disappointing, I really hope she can figure things out a bit as she's clearly smart, has many talents she can use to propel herself into a healthier life. I used to do sw and have bpd, I think if she someday gets better and genuinely does her best she still can have a future in entertainment. I am hurt a bit by her lies but also understand she started her channel as a teenager and clearly has had a rough life/has a lot to sort through on her own. I think if she finds a healthier outlet for her lying she could do a lot of good, everyone deserves to be able to improve themselves but I don't think I could trust her for a long time.
I just found out I have ADHD at age 29. The fact that she lied about mental health stuff pisses me the hell off. I’ve been following content creators with ADHD and I’m imagining what it would be like to find out one of them is lying. I would be devastated
I feel you there (it was last year for me at 32)
I can see that, I hope that doesn’t happen
Her latest video she talks about having ADHD. It’s like she learned nothing. Back to her old schnenigans
one of my favorite things about listening to your videos is the fact that you speak so elegantly & informatively yet also will add in "BUT IM STILL A HATING ASS BITCH." just gives me the cozy feel good vibes i need.
I want to be real but also throw in some fun nerd stuff
I found your channel through the original Miiasaurous video (yay follow ups).
I'm about seven minutes into this and it definitely feels like she's soft launching her old personality and seeing how much she can get away with again
That’s such a good point
this just seems like a reach. It could possibly be that she has built this persona for so long that separating herself from it could be difficult. I could be wrong, but looking at all her behaviour now with kind of the idea that there is some kind of malice or underlying manipulation is kind of not helpful. imo
As an Australian I do agree cussing is fantastic. But yeah you need to be cautious with it. Also them being like ‘now about me’ thing. Uhhh? No Mia this isn’t the time
as an american with an australian boyfriend, can agree that we both enjoy friendly cussing. it’s just about right time and right place
I agree with both of you!! And as a Quebecois swearing is a cultural pass time here in both national languages
@@MikasRhetoric oooo I didn’t know you were from Quebec!! Idk why that makes me like you even more than I already did! Lol
I hate bringing Jenna Marbles every time we are in the topic of apologies but the part of her deleting her entire channel reminded me of Jenna addressing her problematic videos while playing them on screen. To this day I still feel like she's the only one that genuinely looked back at her past content and was ashamed of the harmful stuff she put out, but she still acknowledged it as a part of her past and didn't say "uh so that wasnt me lol".
I don't think I will be going back to Mia's channel but I do 100% think that if she did commentary videos with black women, s*x workers etc as guests it would not only help her grow herself but maybe even shout out to youtubers that might not have the following that she has (had?) or even informing people about what s*x work, bipolar disorder** actually are and how people live through it.
That’s a good point too, you should show what you mean by improving on actions
i completely agree. and just so you know, “bpd” means borderline personality disorder, and not bipolar disorder.
@@starylize I corrected it, thank you! I tend to get their names switched up a lot unfortunately
*sighs* Mia was so deeply ableist during their ‘apologies’ that felt a lot more like manipulation than an apology. Haven’t watched them in a long time, since their things like ‘how did that stroke taste’ just isn’t really funny. Especially as someone who’s had two strokes. I don’t think she’s learned anything, it’s been such a short period of time too. If you are doing the work then you need to spend time doing so, she hasn’t spent enough time doing said work.
Agreed, initially, I was alright with it but the more I thought about it the more issues I had with it. I'm wondering if she was kind of banking on people doing that (just watching the video on a surface level), especially since people like me who were former fans of hers really wanted to forgive her, regardless of how bad the apology was.
Also it is not useful to just reiterate the same points
i didn't understand the "how did that stroke taste" thing. i assume it was a joke from her and i've been trying to understand it but since i haven't, it felt very weird for me because i was like "why is she mentioning a stroke right now, this is already so hard to follow"... 😭
@@nathanscore yeah it’s in really really bad taste. It’s also just blatantly making fun of people with speech impediments too. Which is also not okay either. I don’t like that she has been allowed to get away Scott free with the kind of Blatant Ableism she uses in her videos because as usual disabled people are the bottom of the barrel and if we speak out we’re just ‘over reacting’ it’s so tiring
I definitely feel that she has not taken enough time. Kind of typical with BPD. They want to be better and do better, it just, takes years, honestly. Admitting you need that much time is really hard for someone with BPD. They want to be better NOW.
i see people mixing these up alot as mia did in a clip here, Bipolar Disoder is not BPD. Bpd is Borderline Personality Disorder, they are similar in some aspects but very different experiences
Yes I know that I must have slipped and missed it in editing sorry
I think it’s BPAD now, Bipolar Affective Disorder
@@cerebratt2752 No, just bipolar disorder. Or BD
@@marissavillalobos I am not meaning this harshly when I feel I would like to solidify my point and also not downplay your post: I work in a hospital local health district’s mental health service, in documenting clinical notes we use BPAD and Bipolar Affective Disorder. For framing this is in Australia
@@cerebratt2752 I have bipolar disorder but I also live in the US so I understand if it's different there.
I am SO happy to hear someone talking about rhetoric on a more meta level when it comes to this stuff. It’s insanely valuable for people to learn how content like this can be positioned and perceived beyond just taking people at face value. You’re brill 🎉
Thank you so much!! Rhetoric is a part of every day life and I’m trying to show that with these videos
I didn’t even realize she made another apology 💀 I can’t keep count anymore
It’s unfortunately 3
For some reason I have the strong feeling that Mia didn’t learn and heal in those two months, that she was just chilling in her apartment and suddenly remembered that she had a channel and wanted to “do things right”. Maybe I think this way because I had a friend who had the same issues as Mia (lying, hurting people, etc) and always claimed that she would change when in the end she was always the same. It’s a pity and it is really sad because I know she will never change, I don’t know what this kind of people have but they never do.
just watched the intro, loveee how you explain your methodology, and actually uplift other creators
I want commentary to be a community again, and I’ll do everything that I can with my itty bitty channel
i had to dip out when mia started crying bc that is super manipulative to do while making an apology video when she easily could’ve just filmed the video again
this was such a head trip, she is literally digging herself deeper, i wish she at least took a longer break so this didnt feel like rubbing salt onto an open wound for a lot of people
Yes and also keeping the first apology but no other videos was so bizarre
you're one of the greats, man. Creator or Commenter, we need you.
🥰 that really means a lot
I came running 🏃
I have followed her from the very beginning and honestly seeing her apology made me feel conflicted although i kinda feel like she really meant what she said, I'm still unsure about it
Well we can all share our opinions here, regardless if you agree with me or not
well it's clear to me that mia will never learn. it's obvious the break was to wait out and find a good moment to release a comeback video, not to "learn" or anything like that. on a lighter note, if i were in their situation, i would make a comeback when the try guys shit hit the fan so people wouldn't notice right away (as they are busy watching compilations of ned being a weirdo) and i could slowly crawl back hehe
How the fuck would you know that lmao. I don’t care either way but like you have no idea. So fucking weird.
I wouldn't say she'll never change, people with BPD always want to be better right now, but it ends up being delusional and manipulative when you have not taken the proper time.
I am a sex worker and am bipolar I, I am incredibly unhappy with the things she said and can’t even imagine how the Black community feels.
I saw her upload her return video and I was like "I'm not gonna watch it, I'm just gonna wait to hear everyone else's reactions" lmao
I'm white so I don't feel very comfortable forming a solid opinion on Mia
I feel that
For me personally, what pisses me off is the fact she was a commentary RUclipsr, who used to critique others' actions and talk about how she wouldn't do the things they did. She would poke fun at the "apology videos". Now she's doing the same thing she would make a commentary video about. She literally made a video of Tana Montego even though what she did is in the same category ( Lying about $3x work, blaccent, and mental health stuff).It's hypocritical.
I love hearing you say “clout” while also sounding so educated and articulate!😭💓
Might as well limit your own use of AAVE if you’re going to talk about someone apologizing for doing that very thing. Because it “do be” hypocritical.
That was a slip, at some point I was using things she said but I didn’t script this fully either
@@MikasRhetoric just use AAVE Jesus Christ u Americans need to grow up
Again I am not American
@@MikasRhetoric whatever u are stop being so sensitive at ur big age
the squish gang in my office is not impressed with the shenanigans of ms miiasaurous, but i'll reserve judgement until we see how the channel progresses. maybe she has some actual interesting takes in the works. even if she isn't personally invested in doing better it would be a good business move for her to take the free advice you're handing out so i cant see why she wouldnt
I am also holding out for her still to an extent
I feel like she almost doesn't mind shedding subscribers, because the ones that stick around and put up with her after...everything...will be easier to wrap around her little finger. A bit like when scam emails are riddled with spelling errors to filter out people who realise it's bullshit.
Oh that’s a good point
I just discovered your channel and I love it!! You're so good with words and explaining!! Love you!!
That’s so sweet thank you and I am happy you are here :)
i was hoping you’d cover this!! i really appreciate your insight and framing, thank you for your analysis!!
Thank you!
I always get so excited when I see you posted a new video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, I’m grateful for you all
I'd like to appreciate the sentence "I do be a hater ass bitch" for a moment. I love it!
Thank you I try
Sorry I'm corny as hell, and maybe have said this in the past. But, I'm so
glad you're here on RUclips! I really value hearing your thoughts and educated opinions on many situations. Given the choice of you or another YTer, speaking on the same issue, I choose you most every time. I don't even always agree with your take, idk, I think I just find the way you approach topics refreshing.
Anyway, thanks for being you I guess. Lmao what even is this comment
Oh also you deserve more subs and attention! Just wanted to throw that out there
That’s so sweet thank you!!!!!!
i like coming to your channel because i learn how to resolve conflict also. thanks for posting your thoughts and opinions, Mika!
Eye look is poppin 💜 Always excited to see a new vid from you Mika ☺️
Thank you for your support and I hope you like what you see 😊😊✨
you were so quick to post on this! after some time digesting everything said by a number of communities and people, i've been really unsure how to take any recent updates on the situation, so it's nice hearing your input as always !💜
I am happy you appreciate my opinions!!
I actually have no idea who she is but the swearing instantly didn't sit right with me. I also swear quite a bit but when you're trying to make a serious video for people you've hurt- maybe don't swear so casually?
Also, loving that eyeshadow
I totally agree and thank you ❤️✨
I really wish she would’ve started with highlighting creators in this video by crediting Nadja and Daniel’s podcast/ Nadja’s individual response videos. IMO Mia clearly watched those and took notes, and that should be credited respectively! Bc of those videos I became a fan of their podcast too aside the mia stuff. Also haven’t even watched your video yet but sure it’s a good one lol. Appreciate your content!
Yeah it was odd to mention highlighting people and then not doing it in the video
i don't know what it is, every time i see you gesture to the squish gang the literal gesture of it makes my heart so happy
🥰🥰
(this is a compliment unrelated to the topic) i love your channel so much! i’ve only watched a few videos on alr and foodie beauty, but it’s so relaxing to watch while i’m falling asleep. there’s no music, your voice is so comforting and you look deeper into the behaviors of the people your making a video abt, then use literature and what some consider to be “study materials” to drive your points further along. how could i not be drawn to your content? your channel is too good to be true ❤️
That’s so sweet thank you, I am really honoured to have my videos lighten your day
I like to think me commenting "nice blaccent" on her videos had something to do with her apology. Chances are, it didn't. Nut in my mind she saw them and thought about her actions. I mean, after about the 3rd or 4th time I did it, she did happen to make her apology video...that, and the video she made where she was trying on clothes and kept calling herself fat is what made me see how ridiculous she is. She's skinny with a compl3tely flat stomach and just sounded so mean girl doing it or fake humble or something. I think this is her fake humbleness coming out again.
as soon as i saw she had uploaded i was looking forward to your video on it 😂 i didn't expect to be blessed this soon tho!
eta for ~the discourse~: I fucking hate this new 'apology'. It was 100% unneccesary, and the whole thing is just Mia taking 6 minutes to say what she could have said in 30-45 seconds at the beginning of a real video where she actually *does* the things she made this garbage fire video to make sure everyone knows she's going to do. Nobody wants to hear about what she's going to do, we want to see her do it. She's not helping the communities she harmed by making a video all about the things she's (supposedly) going to do to help out, she's just helping herself (and doing a piss poor job of that as well).
And the worst part is the avalanche of people in her comments who aren't in the communities she hurt saying (I shit you not) "I'm not black or a sex worker and I don't have BPD so it's not my place to accept this apology, *but* I do think you've done everything right and done a perfect job of taking accountability and you shouldn't feel bad and I'm so glad you're back on youtube don't listen to the haters!!!"
The cognitive dissonance is unreal.
I was going to go through the comments and then literally forgot 😭😭😭
@@MikasRhetoric girl spare yourself it's not worth the headache 😂 i will say the most uplifting thing is that the flop comments have no likes meanwhile the one's roasting her have a much better response
I also went to the comments and was somewhat surprised at how many uncritical ones there were! Thank you for posting this video so quickly, I knew I felt weird and kind of icky after this third redundant applogy video but couldn't quite articulate my feelings
I just watched your initial video after watching Paige’s video. Few days later and Mia decides to come back to RUclips 😂 the timing is insane lol
I love that
Hey just want to say I love your videos so much and I'm super happy that you have posted a lot recently, I love videos like this and you always make them in such a good way entertainment-wise and educational wise lol, idk but yeah.
You’re so sweet thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
This comeback feels so worrisome tbh
Thanks for covering this!! and for making videos at all. 🎶 much love to Jason also
tbh I feel like I can’t accept or even really comment on the return because I wasn’t one of the groups she profited from. however, all I can do is listen to those groups and see what they say and what they think.
That is fair and valid
Thought about this and I know I just said on Twitter that it was well-received and that's like, not true lol, based on the recent comments and all of the points you made about it. (sorry about the long comment again lol, I think it might be interesting to hear it from a former fan's perspective)
I also think that I can only comment on the mental health front (since I have bipolar), and I thought the apology was ok BUT...
Thinking about it, I literally was so willing to forgive her that I overlooked a lot of the issues from the video she made, which is interesting (kind of reminds me of the rhetoric section), and how she appealed to emotion in a really calculated way, especially for that performative donation thing like jesus christ, also I was also ready to forgive her on behalf of black and POC people without even realizing it which is like, not ok
I'm not going to watch her videos anymore for that exact reason, thanks for the really well-thought-out and insightful video.
Thank you for being open minded even as a fan
@@MikasRhetoric Of course! I think it's important for fans of people to be critical of their faves, just bc I like someone doesn't mean I can't like, be critical of them, 'know? (I don't like Mia anymore though lol, I'm not a fan after this shitshow)
People have this thing where they think their faves are untouchable (hello parasocial relationships) and it's soooo bad
Love your videos!! Your critical analysis is actually helping me to write my uni essays in a more critical way so thank you ❤️
That is amazing!! I hope for success in your academics
I love these videos on this! The points you choose to address seem very relevant and from a place of empathy as well. It's really nice to listen to ♥.
Thank you 🥺❤️❤️
I AM OBSESSED WITH THIS MAKEUP LOOK!!! Also you're out here blowing my mind with the clap board audio thing
Do you mean how I got her to clap at the same time as me?
@@MikasRhetoric about how the clapper board thing in movies is supposed to sync the audio and video or whatever
i could be wrong but i think “do be” is AAVE because using the habitual be is AAVE. so i would just keep that in mind since you even talk about the other person using aave and then you might be doing the same. again, i could be wrong and i don’t mean this in a hateful way. just sharing information
she should have never left if she was just gonna come back. she should’ve just apologized, did some work, and moved on. i feel like canceling herself was to make ppl feel bad for her
I didnt know this was happening. I watched them for like a month but i forgot about their existence and this pops up on my recommendation. I can’t believe this happened.
Their entire channel was wiped for like 2 months
@@MikasRhetoric I just saw that. It’s genuinely sad how many people i used to watch come out to be bad people. But i guess that’s just the way the world works
Idk.. but considering what the topic of your video did.. hearing you use AAVE in a way that comes across like it's to be humorous kinda fell flat and was a bit off-putting, tbh. It seems to me like you could've made your points more clear if you hadn't done that. As of now it kinda looks like it's more of a "rules for thee, but not for me". At least in that aspect. Again just my opinion.
Also, I might be wrong, but I thought the video she left up was the 1st apology. I thought I remembered she had notes in the 2nd one, but I didn't see them in the one that's up now.. but maybe I just didn't pay enough attention. I did have to pause/rewind a few times.
Ok so as far as the ‘do be’ I actually did not know that was AAVE, believe me or not, I 100% had no clue. The only time I purposely leaned into anything was the tone for calling myself a ‘hater ass Bitch’ to which I was just trying to sound like miia’s weird apology tone nothing more than that really. I’m sorry I did not know, I am not making a persona out of blackness in the way she was portrayed, I literally just didn’t know
@@MikasRhetoric oh no, Mika... that's not at all what I meant!! I was definitely NOT saying that you were putting on a persona nor did I think that for even one second. I genuinely took it as you were making jokes, but to me (so someone else could totally have the exact opposite reaction from me) bc of the subject material it just didn't hit the right spot and kinda took away from the importance of the points you were making. I 100000% believe that you didn't know. That's kinda the problem with AAVE, it's become so ingrained in English (especially North American slang) that non-black POC's have no clue where it comes from half the time.
Just to hit on the 2nd thing I said, I checked again and the apology video that Miia has up is definitely her 1st one. In the 2nd she tells us that she has BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder for those who don't know, I know Mika does), but in the one that's up right now she says she doesn't want to say what it is to protect others who have the same diagnosis, so that they wouldn't be painted with the same brush as her. Hopefully I made sense lol
@@TheMunchkinita2509 I thought the long one was the second one that’s why I think. I got hacked recently so I didn’t have the files to get the two back that I downloaded a while ago so I just clicked on while recording and thought that looked like the second one. I’ll add a correction to the description.
@@MikasRhetoric if I could change 1 thing about social media culture, it would be that all "watchers" of content were respectful when speaking to creators and that all creators were as receptive to comments that aren't all about sunshine and rainbows like you are. Thank you for taking the time and for doing it with such grace... it's barely past 10am here and you've already snagged my mvp award for the day! 😂😂 (just being silly, please no one read too much into my joke)
She conveniently stayed as vague as possible so that her remaining fans might forget how bad it was and new fans don't know what's going on. I'm curious how her next video will be, I'm all for people trying to change for the better. At the same time, the way she carried this video makes me feel that these few months weren't enough to really reflect on the years (!) of deceit and using BIPOC, people with mental health struggles and sex workers as a costume to add spice to her personality. Unlearning an entire personality you crafted for so many years doesn't wash away that quickly.
It's so hard. thing = bad, but she's a human being and there are so many "white" (or someone who benefits from that community) privileged kids with a camera who profited from minorities for decades and she's the rare case that actually admits doing it. I hope I'm wrong and that she's going through a journey to improve herself, rather than throwing everything under the rug. She might have hidden everything, but at least she doesn't profit from it either.
I also hope she improves, and I feel like she should have turned ads off for now, or included examples in her video rather than just scrubbing everything away as if it was never there
@@MikasRhetoric The reason I mentioned profit is because turning off ads is.. weird when I see controversial videos over the years. Some youtubers mention they turned it off, only to lie about it or turn it on later on. A lot of creators are forced to play ads even when they don't get revenue and it can be confusing for the viewers and it can make viewers upset anyways. Now people can be 100% sure. She could also remove the apology videos in the future (removing one of the 2 videos is already proof that it's possible) when everyone forgets about it and leave her old content and new fans or dedicated fans won't care for it. Turn those ads on and caching. She will also benefit from the views and sponsors and it can benefit her to continue contracts or create new ones based on content she doesn't support anymore. she can use the money for charity, but we'll never know how much she earns from it.
I'm all for archival purposes and I've seen several youtubers who either remove their years of hard work and start again or delete their entire channel. Although it can be a way to hide your past, I'm also for allowing people to start over again, because some people will follow you for years and use your content against you at everything they say. Lindsay Ellis is a perfect example of someone who made videos over a decade and every tiny controversy was collected and used against her. People do not give creators on the internet a chance to learn and grow no matter what they do. And I think removing content for your own mental health as valid, even if it's unfair for the viewers.
To put yourself out there, admit your mistakes should be enough in my opinion (if you do it well), because giving examples can refuel anger or it can feel disingenuous if you create a video essay to cancel yourself and we know she focused on authenticity and relatability like the clapping and cursing. She barely edits and researches content she made, so I won't expect high quality video with examples anyways. Sometimes people make apology videos not only because they are sorry, but to keep as many followers you already have.
The most successful youtubers seem to at least seem authentic. I'm not sure how anyone can trust anything she says now
I wish there was more authenticity still left on the platform
@@MikasRhetoric yeah, it seems impossible when a person reaches a certain amount of subscribers, which i understand to an extent, you'd be more nervous of people trying to find you. That's a far cry from the big whoppers Mia told though lol!
Loved this video! I have followed mia and liked her content when i watched, but i didnt follow her closely or watch every video. i didnt realize at the time the problematic parts. i only found out there was controversy when she posted her initial apology. I think my issue w her recent video is that it felt too neither here nor there in a way. the swearing in the beginning could have just been cut out, it was irrelevant and confusing. one minute shes joking, the next shes tearing up. It felt weird. i feel like she should have just came back and been casual/jokey/normal and said "hey im back, follow if you want, but if not thats fine" OR if she wanted to make the video that she did, cut out the swearing, dont make jokes, and keep it more serious. I felt like she was trying to re-explain and re-apologize without actually getting into what happened and it just made me confused on what the point of that short video even was.
I totally agree with this, it felt like 30 minutes but it was 5. And there was only 30 seconds of actual conversation in it really
I have bpd and even though she's not lying about her bpd (as far as we know), this disorder already has so much stigma around it and people who have something against those with bpd (a lot more than you probably realize) will use this as an example of why you can't trust anyone with bpd. So, she is also hurting a community that she is a part of.
Yes I agree, same sentiment as the first video I made
She tried not to disclose her diagnosis because of the stigma but people got very mad at that, she didnt even know her diagnosis during the time where she lied, its unfair to blame ourselves and each other for our own discrimination and its also not fair to get angrier at someone with a diagnosis than someone without
@@bluebeesmarple I'm aware, but it doesn't change the consequences.
@@Ollie_nel of course, but it’s not right to blame the victim over the agressor cause the victim did something stupid/isn’t a good person
@@bluebeesmarple I never said that the stigma is her fault, i'm just saying that it could be a consequence
I love your videos just wanted to say that. Always a treat to find great commentary channels like yourself! 😁
Thank you!! 🥰🥰
I didn't watch it. Cuz why should I. I'm tired of these disappearing acts most of these tubers love doing when they in deep shit, like people are gonna forget. And then. They come back? Like someone asked? They broke their audience's trust, and being black and bipolar, it irritates me. From your video, she came back like manipulators of my past. "Hey! I know I fucked your view of me and disrespected you and everyone, but how are your kids?" Like nothing happened. Regardless of what she said, I can't help but roll my eyes.
I’m bipolar and her lying about it pissed me off, I’m so tired of people pretending to have mental illness to be “quirky” they don’t understand this shit ruins relationships and jobs. Some people aren’t even here anymore because of it. And her acting all chipper like it’s not a big deal makes it worse
Love your videos so muchh!!! You're doing great! :)
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Mika two days in a row 😍
That purple shade on your eyes is so pretty btw 💜
Thank you!! This is the last upload for the week because I have family visiting but today was my only free day for the week so I thought I would make the most of it
It’s iconic as heck I love the look
Thank you so much this video. As always the video was amazing ❤
Thank you for watching and supporting its so cool making content for you all
love when we get another negative face for bpd 🤪🤩🤡 (whether mia has it or not, there’s already that public statement which does the damage)
Yes I agree and I just hope she makes it right overtime
@@MikasRhetoric i do too! there’s lots of stigma already, and i just want anyone with bpd, or symptoms related, to thrive bc shiz is hard
Love your eyeshadow!! So happy to see squishgang as well
Thank you!!!!
i wanna thank you a lot for your explanations on rhetoric. i watch a lot of videos on things that happen on the internet, but there are certain things i can't understand as an autistic person, and there is an extra layer added as english is not my first language. your videos are very well built and they are helpful for me because some people could talk about that situation and said "cussing heavily is so inappropriate for this video" and i would't have understood why. you actually explained the contexts in where cussing is acceptable and why it is inappropriate for this video. i could find a lot more examples of how you're helping me understand oral communication. i really like that i can come to your channel and be used to your format, your soft voice, your clear diction and how well you explain things that i've desperately tried, but failed, to understand before. you're like a guide to understand why and how people communicate the way they do 😭😭
This means so much to me truly, that is the goal of this channel and you’ve made me feel like I am succeeding in that goal
@@MikasRhetoric i'm so glad 💜
Congratulations on 20k!!! 🎉
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Your content is very valuable, it's admirable to take your education and apply it in such a context to make that information and knowledge more accessible to so many people, a lot of whom most likely don't have that same education. Great video!
Thank you!
Can’t speak on the blaccent because it’s not my place (although I think it’s extremely wrong, I cannot speak from a place of personal experience). BUT I am bipolar, a seggs worker, and sober from hard substances. Don’t accept her apology or think she’s changed at all, sorry.
Also I do know she has BPD, not bipolar disorder. But she lied and said she was bipolar to seem more “palatable” or whatever. Nope. Not for me.
That’s true, and yeah I got confused a little in the video and didn’t catch it in editing
@@MikasRhetoric no shade to you at all! They have similar sounding names and share a lot of the same symptoms, it’s very easy to get confused if you don’t have one (or both). I just wanted to distinguish that I know she’s borderline, not bipolar. Regardless, another eloquent and well thought-out video from you that I enjoyed a lot :) you are the rhetoric queen!
I just really can’t seem to get back into miia tbh.. I feel so lied to like I was subbed to a fake personality and I’m now learning this personality has nothing in common with mine.. I just can’t forgive and forget honestly
"I do be"... Criticizing her use of aave while unconsciously using aave.
I don’t know her, but I always appreciate your takes on these Internet personalities. And I definitely appreciate having more frequent videos. :)
Thank you
I’m trying to upload more but we will see how things go
Did she upload it on her regular channel? I can't even find the channel.
Yes she did is it gone again??
@@MikasRhetoric Unfortunately I was just spelling her name wrong. Boooooo I wanted it to be gone.
thank you for covering this return video. i didn’t want to give her the view.
It was 5 minutes of not much really
Giiiirl that eyeshadow combo mwah chefs kissss
Thank you!!!
Been waiting for someone to break this down. Glad you are on top of it!
Happy to report on it
2:00 entirely unrelated but i appreciate the little info plug in about why they got those 'chop clips' on film sets in your first point about editing out the clap.
okay back to the video now!
bestie is back to slay another day - what eyeshadow is the pink/purple colour on your inner lid? it's so pretty
That makeup is in the description of all the videos, but most of the shadows are from the Kaleidos Flower Punk pallet, and the purple colour is the blue shimmer from the pallet mixed with colourpop ice dream
@@MikasRhetoric stunning thank you
Also…a note as I’m almost 6 minutes into your video, when I first discovered Miiasaurous’s channel I was like “oh she seems cool and funny and clearly is a respected RUclipsr” (this was before all the stuff she admitted to) it was obvious that she has made it her full-time job to make RUclips content, so I wanted to see what her net worth is because I have this weird fascination with how much money some of these content creators are able to make, and it was stated to be around $1.5million but also some sources say it’s $400k and I have no idea which is accurate (although the million is stated on more websites than the 400k). So either way she’s been making a pretty decent living off her channel up until she outed herself. Now she has a tarnished rep she’s going to be sharing the money from her *new* videos with these communities despite being super not clear about how much or when she’ll be posting videos that make money. She needs a job outside of RUclips tbh.
I genuinely appreciate your channel
I appreciate you :)))
i saw that she uplaoded a video and tried watching it just to see what she had to say n when she started swearing so much without being a minute in, i couldn't watch it. there's swearing to like make a point, then there's that unnecessary amount of swearing that makes everything uncomfortable, makes the person seem sort of childish and not to be taken seriously and that's the feeling i got from her 'apology'.
Is the use of aave in this video supposed to be ironic😅? I’m a little confused. Otherwise great video!!
I was trying to mock her a little
Edit: after reading more comments I thought you meant the tone I had for a little, in reality I think you meant my saying ‘do be’. If that is the case I actually did not know that was AAVE, I just thought it was from the saying ‘it do be like that sometimes’ I won’t use it anymore. Sorry I was unsure exactly what you meant when I saw this
@@MikasRhetoric Jesus ‘I won’t use it anymore’ sofffttttttt
Comment for engagement cause why is this channel so underrated?
Aww thank you so much!! I am just happy to be able to make content in general
idk if this info is important for your channel but i just wanted to let you know youtube unsubbed me from your channel wtf. love your content so much, it’s nice having a Canadian commentator on here the same age as me :)
Thank you for your continued support
The cussing IMMEDIATELY threw me off not gonna lie, her whole cadence of the situation made me unable to take her serious.
Funny enough? Pretty sure that was a point that was made beforehand as well by others and that even she’s acknowledged. Re-take it without swearing if you’re growing, imo.
I’m willing to see people grow, but nothing indicates to me that there’s been growth especially just in 1/2 months.
And I feel like people in her comments saying “I can see the growth!” are just enabling the opposite 🤷♀️ I’m mixed & a SW, and I don’t know, I feel like I need to see a lot more before I’m willing to get on the yessss queennnn bandwagon. This is still the Internet, people still lie, and we have only seen ONE 5 minute video (that is not very flattering in the first place) I think people need to be careful with who they so easily forgive so quickly, might bite you in the ass.
Yep! She should have maybe addressed that too like ‘give yourselves time to forgive me’ or something like that
@@MikasRhetoric we can only hope she takes into consideration what people have to say because nobody is praying for anybody’s downfall! Also wondering what kind of content will come out next since they rly shouldn’t be talking about anyone else (imo), I think that would help with seeing where the growth really lies
I just went to her video to see the comment section and how people are taking her come back and wow was I surprised and not in a good way. They were talking about how she accepted all that and apologized without anyone actually pointing out them and all that and that she has now grown from all that and I don’t understand how they see any growth? How can you decide growth without actually seeing any actual growth🙄
I actually found your channel through Petty Paige's video! So hey, that worked! 😆 Love your content.
Thanks and I love your name and pfp reference 👀
I watched that video and immediately felt like she was just making fun of everyone with it.
The apology was wack tbh and got deleted. I also don’t appreciate how she doesn’t engage w actual critism she faced…
idk I find it all kinda disingenuous and I don’t think they have changed much, I think it’s convenient for Mia to make cash off the followers she built by being toxic and appropriating black culture and SWers and I’m just not convinced a few shout outs about black businesses is enough to reconcile her harms and like idk perpetuating weird stereotypes about SWers and black people.
I think maybe therapy will be better for them and also a brand new channel imo.
What book are you reading from btw 😊
Oh it forgot to put the book in the description, I will add it later!! (I’m at school right now)
@@MikasRhetoric thank you have a great day!
Your content is exactly what I am looking for ! Werk
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Two uploads in as many days?? Queen
Thank you I am on the grind
New fav Mika quote “howld awn”
Yes Mika was hoping you'd comment on this 🖤
Yes it was requested so I came through for the people!
@@MikasRhetoric if the next video isn't her and people from communities she's effected , talking openly etc I can't see how she can move forward. I won't hold my breath
Thanks for the update! Loved the way you approached this from the lens of conflict resolution!
To me, her video just seemed disingenuous or kind of fake- not that we know what's going on in someone else's mind but it reminded me of bad acting.
Not to be judgemental at all, i really hope she does feel sincere about it.
I guess we will have to see if she really does do what she says she will do with her donating and such and most of all- respecting different people and groups and just being herself.
Can't wait for whatever topic you're covering next! 😀 ✋️
I hopefully can get to my Keemstar manifesto next
This is what bothers me the most, out of all of the things she did, having weird body language is criticized way too much, its hurtful cause im neurodivergent and people said shitty things to me about it my whole life, now i can see how most people really think (fyi shes neurodivergent too)
Honestly, I have bpd and just wish people were done with this issue and focused on much more important things (ppl can care about many things at once, sure, but cmon, there are far more problematic people and issues to be dissecting)
Ikr? Theres problematic things to talk about if people wanted to but what i mostly see is nitpicking at small things, sometimes even stupid stuff, what is the point of this?
@@bluebeesmarple it’s obvious how mia’s tormenting herself over this, she wasn’t right to profit off all those lies but I think she genuinely regrets it and is ashamed. eventually we need to move on tbh. Kanye’s rhetoric for example is much more problematic and interesting to dissect and he’s clearly unapologetic about it. Not to say that I don’t value mika’s work and research, which I do. But if I wanted to watch drama I’d go to petty paige’s channel or smth
Have not watched the whole video, just got to the point where she said she was donating the proceeds from her videos to those communities and like...she could just do a regular job, donate her own dang money and not have it all advertised on her social media. One of my pet peeves is when people do stuff like give money to a homeless person then post about it
I guess it’s because people said before that they wouldn’t believe that she would donate
@@MikasRhetoric whether or not those people believed her wouldn't matter if she didn't return to being a public figure imo
Tbh, I watched Mia for a bit, but her first "apology" sucked imo, and the things she lied about are things that affect me and my family, so im just over her. There's too many genuine creators out there for me to waste my time watching someone I no longer respect or even like. I fully believe in believing people when they show you who they really are the first time. I've been lied to so many times in my real life, and I don't need to be watching creators who lie in order to get clicks. It's just not my thing.