Unbiased Review of iLoud MTM MKII

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @ErinsAudioCorner
    @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад +43

    This is my shortest review ever. 😁😁 To be fair, I didn't intend it to be that way. It's just that they're pretty standard desktop speakers that don't do anything really wrong. Just a few nits to pick but otherwise, excellent desktop speakers.

    • @marcosvictor4935
      @marcosvictor4935 4 месяца назад

      Great review, thanks!

    • @jekhoo93
      @jekhoo93 4 месяца назад +2

      How does this compare to something like 5inch entry level monitors under $500?

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад +4

      ⁠that would depend on which model you’re talking about. I’ve reviewed a fair number of them so you should be able to look at those reviews and find your answer.

    • @MrCommunistGen
      @MrCommunistGen 4 месяца назад

      I appreciate the brevity. If there's nothing else to say, better not to just keep talking for the sake of it. Save your time and ours 😄

    • @DizzyVizzle
      @DizzyVizzle 4 месяца назад

      Given that these are the same price as the sale price on LSX LT, which would you buy with your $800?

  • @FOH3663
    @FOH3663 4 месяца назад +11

    Astute point wrt ~86dB nearfied/midfield, as that's why 85dB is most often used professionally as a mix anchoring level for consistency and translation, etc., w/mixing and mastering.
    iirc, that aligns w/OSHA's suggestions as well, for 8hr exposure, A weighted.

  • @john57125
    @john57125 3 месяца назад +5

    I just bought these last week and they're really quite good. The frequency response I've measured against smaller genelec and kh80s and the results are surprisingly close, even giving the edge to the MTMs at some frequencies. Yes they don't get loud and they don't get extremely deep but for a small sized desktop speaker or monitors besides the slight treble bump they are extremely linear and the built in dynamic EQ with the mic makes them sound a lot better. The imaging is also fantastic. Compared to the competition I really thought these were worth it, at least in my use case.

  • @bluesteelbass
    @bluesteelbass 4 месяца назад +7

    I have the originals, and was so satisfied with them, I purchased the Precision 6. The crossover point was set to 120Hz for the MTM's. I do not comprehend complaints about bass response with such tiny speakers. Physics is physics, period. Even the Precision 6 are helped with a subwoofer, with crossover point at 100Hz.
    Very small sweet spot for the MTM design, which is what the MTM design is known for. Having them away from a wall is required, as is required from any speaker that is rear ported. Sound stage is very good, with very accurate positioning after calibration. I would be hard pressed to find any speaker in that size capable of similar sound reproduction for a desk setup.

    • @themastroiannis
      @themastroiannis 4 месяца назад +1

      How do you like your Precision 6? been wondering about getting a second pair for my studio. I have a pair of Neumann KH310 which I like a lot but would be nice to have something different to compare. My mixes are for classical and jazz so don't need/care for a bloated bass!

    • @bluesteelbass
      @bluesteelbass 4 месяца назад +2

      @@themastroiannis I really like them. Unless you are listening to organ music, these will be more than adequate. They dig deep without bloat if not using a subwoofer. The precision series uses 4 point room correction instead of 1 point, so you can "expand" the listening area's sweet spot by widening the 4 points during calibration. As they are not MTM, the sweet spot is wider as well. They do not sound as good tilted for angle versus directly straight on tweeter to your ear on a platform. The platform I use is from the desk: softwood, hardwood, softwood, hardwood, followed by the included isolation pads. The source is an RME ADI-2 DAC FS Black, and a Fireface UCX II is used for multiple inputs, directly plugged into the ADI-2, for reference as to sources.
      Positioning left-right is dramatically improved compared to MTM. Sound stage depth as well is infinitely better, the MTM's have a shallow sound stage depth, but can not be beat at the price point compared to others.

    • @BogdanWeiss
      @BogdanWeiss 3 месяца назад

      Sweet spot is by no means related to D'Apollito ( MTM ) driver configuration - Linkwitz Riley 2-nd order has a broader polar response than LR4 ( that's more common in pro applications ) if you have any supporting your claim, I'ed love to know., otherwise I will have to call it out as a "Myth" that hangs around like a bad smell ;-) A bit like "egg shell crate" as an acoustical solution - that one always gets FacePalming :-)

    • @bluesteelbass
      @bluesteelbass 3 месяца назад

      @@BogdanWeiss You just went from a physical speaker configuration to a crossover type in your statement. Weird.

    • @BogdanWeiss
      @BogdanWeiss 3 месяца назад

      @@bluesteelbass It's the "essence" of a D'Apollito configuration & what's "weired" is that you don't know it & you made a broad statement about MTM & imaging

  • @martheunen
    @martheunen 3 месяца назад +4

    I've heard these a couple months ago when i was on a long weekend break with some friends. We rented a small house and a friend brought these speakers with him. The house had stone floors and massive amounts of large glass windows. Nonetheless when I heard the speakers I was pleasantly surprised how good they sounded. When we crancked them up I could clearly hear they ran out of gas but at moderate levels they sounded quite nice. Especially the midrange was very 'clear' if you will. I did notice a bump in the highs but it wasnt so much unpleasant as it was noticable compared to what I am used to listening to at home and at work.
    The narrow dispersion in your measurements might well explain why they still sounded so 'behaved' in a stone floor and glass 'walls' room.
    I think if anyone has the budget for these for a desk or (very) small room then they won't be disappointed.
    If however you are planning on mixing mastering then I am pretty sure there are better options out there even at that price point.
    Just depends on a lot of things, for example the type of directivity just to name one.
    Thanks for your review Erin!
    As you say: the data helped me understand what I heard! :)

    • @AvatarofHate
      @AvatarofHate 2 часа назад

      Can you pls name what would you also recommend on this price range for mix and master? Thank you!

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul Месяц назад +1

    Awesome testing! These are gonna be my first monitoring and multimedia desktop speakers. Love how compact they are

  • @Kynect2Hymn
    @Kynect2Hymn 3 месяца назад +1

    I have these speakers, bought them as a B pair to my Focal Trio's. First off, the transient response is pretty incredible with these. If you set these on a desk, apply correction, and mix; you can honestly get a great mix straight out of the box. The high end is definitely boosted, as seen in your frequency response measurement, but this can be fixed with correction. All in all these things are fantastic for the price, as well as portability.

  • @MadLadsAnonymous
    @MadLadsAnonymous 4 месяца назад +4

    The two actives I'd love to see measured that I've been recommended recently:
    PSB AM5
    Focal Shape 65

  • @nickstephens7046
    @nickstephens7046 4 месяца назад +5

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING, YOUR PASSION AND EVERYTHING

  • @Jayiyagi
    @Jayiyagi 4 месяца назад +7

    Thanks for the review!

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm 3 месяца назад +2

    CerwinVega! Has a new powered 10” 3 way studio monitor out that would be really neat to see some measurements on. It plays loud and very clear. I’m pretty sure they would send you a pair. They are very easy to get a hold of through a phone call 🙏🔈👍🏻

  • @rickgrimes4845
    @rickgrimes4845 4 месяца назад +1

    I have the iLoud Micro Monitors and they are great. Definitely sound bigger than they are. Amazing for the size and perfect if you have little space available.

  • @piotrgraniszewski8544
    @piotrgraniszewski8544 Месяц назад

    Bought those speakers for a compact 2.0 bedroom TV setup on mic stands and I agree that the treble is a little bit hot if not tuned. The bass near the wall is really good. It doesn't quite shake the bed, but you're not really missing out on musical content too much.
    The MTM design is funky. It doesn't hold a candle to my pair of Genelec 8331A when it comes to consistency.
    I will be replacing the iLouds with an all-Genelec 2.1 setup soon enough. The iLouds belong to a tight nearfield desk setup. That said, I am impressed by their clarity at medium range (3m). It appears that the tight dispersion has some upsides. I needed a stop-gap solution and I figured they will be easy to put on a desk later on.

  • @johncallison4745
    @johncallison4745 4 месяца назад +1

    Erin, again great review, I liked this one very much, I am rocking the Logitech g560 system the sub is quite large but it does not matter where I put it. This system for my works so so well. I use my eq on computer to fine tune but, the system arguably is as good as some of my book shelf speakers I have had over the years. I have it mostly for game system but, I also listen to music often on them. Loved your review. Cannot wait for the next. caviot- I had a Bang & Olufsen 8000 system (got lost in a fire, grrrr) back in the day. They have lots of various gadgets from soundbars to home speakers to portables. Would be cool to see you get your hands on some of them. The system I had Coupled with a pair of ADS L810 was stunning in sound and looks. Take care, Payers to you and your family.

  • @michielp1392
    @michielp1392 3 дня назад

    Good info, can you do a similair review of the micro pros?

  • @imqqmi
    @imqqmi 4 месяца назад +1

    I've tried designing desktop speaker myself and it's hard! Especially if you put them on the desk and against a wall, it's very boomy. And in my room it can get pretty loud and the response is pretty much flat. Distortion is much higher than my full size floor standers which is expected. Interesting review, a lot of similarities with my design, except I have a 2 way design with single but high excursion midrange woofer driver. The tweeter is a full range driver.

  • @sebastianbaran9645
    @sebastianbaran9645 4 месяца назад +1

    I was hoping you would review this one. Thanks!

  • @CiabaMusic
    @CiabaMusic 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the review. I asked in the the Kali LP UNF review comments if they were comparable with the iLouds MTM, but you didn't reviewed them at that time. So I ask you again, Kali LP UNF or the MTMs? For context, I'm using a pair of Mk1 MTM and I don't like port chuffing and very little headroom, using them to mix/play electronic music in a small home studio.

    • @1337sim1
      @1337sim1 4 месяца назад +4

      I think you can see in the Kali review that they have better distortion and compression metrics.
      But the MTM has the calibration to get rid of room modes.
      What's more important to you?

    • @CiabaMusic
      @CiabaMusic 4 месяца назад +2

      @@1337sim1 thanks for pointing that out! So if the Kalis would "solve" the headroom problem (and probably port chuffing) I guess I have my winner here. I can add room correction with like a t.racks DSP and REW and still spend less money than the MTMs stand alone. With its 4 outs It could be also useful to throw a subwoofer into the equation, or eventually add a Kali WS6.2 and call it a day. Thank you

  • @danielebellezza8699
    @danielebellezza8699 2 месяца назад

    Thanx for the review 🔥🔥
    For the mix & master of bass house songs, which of these or the Focal Alpha twin do you recommend I buy as the main monitor?

  • @HeatedInaCup
    @HeatedInaCup 4 месяца назад +2

    I ended up returning my iLoud Micros after very audible distortion way before the light switched to red letting me know it was clipping, like really low listening volumes. Not sure if it was an issue with my speaker specifically, or just a nature of the beast for such a small speaker. Thought about going with the MTM thinking more size and more SPL meaning less chance of the above, but after reading about all the QC issues on the MKI, avoided it. The MKII definitely made my ears perk up because I really wanted to like the iLouds given their performance on a paper. Nice to see a review from one of my favorites finally on the MKII. I am out of the market now for near fields- but really hope for good things from this speaker and hope it has less issues than the original MKI.
    Edit: for reference, I ended up going with the Kali MM-6 and paired both the micro and the MM-6 with my SVS PB 1000 Pro. Playing the MM-6 at the same volume as the Micros, I preferred the Micros. The iLoud monitors really are great, I'm just torn on their QC based on my own experience, and what I've seen people go through online. Kali customer service on the other hand is leagues above and beyond.

    • @sudd3660
      @sudd3660 4 месяца назад +1

      the brand(ik multimedia) also makes a more expensive and larger version, the iLoud Precision MTM.

    • @alexanderjellison3063
      @alexanderjellison3063 4 месяца назад +3

      Sounds like they were defective. I've had a pair of the Micros for a few years and they get crazy loud before any distortion. They'll just limit the bass past a certain volume level. They're currently mounted above my stove in the kitchen and shake the whole room without any audible distortion. Way too much bass even with the switch at -3dB, but they're just super fun kitchen speakers.

  • @dparm1984
    @dparm1984 3 месяца назад

    I've got a pair of the regular iLoud Micro Monitor, if you'd ever like to review them, Erin! Been enjoying them for several years now.

  • @dreadziarz
    @dreadziarz Месяц назад

    How do you connect these to a desktop? Do you SLR to some kind of extenral sound card?

  • @TMeier
    @TMeier 2 месяца назад

    I'd like to see your take on the Edifier S3000 mk2. They're in a similar price range. A pro-audio mixer I like recently switched to them for studio monitors and raves about them.

  • @AlienAmbient
    @AlienAmbient 21 день назад

    Does the calibration run in the DSP or OS?

  • @lejkovski
    @lejkovski Месяц назад

    How about using this speakers as the amplification for stage piano, for home use? What about the delay during the live playing? Speakers included in yamaha ck61 are not good enough for daily use. Please advise

  • @nomad1517
    @nomad1517 Месяц назад

    Do a review of the ADAM D3V desktop monitors please. Thank you. 🙂

  • @vettesweetnos
    @vettesweetnos 3 месяца назад

    I spend a decent amount of time at my desktop and have went from Focal aria 905 to Ascend Acoustics Luna to kef ls50 meta. Been happy with the metas and couldn't go any bigger. Would you recommend the ls50 meta as endgame for $1000 to $1500 range for desktop? Or something else?

  • @richh650
    @richh650 4 месяца назад

    Good and clear review letting the numbers do the talking....

  • @JayKaye_Vortecx
    @JayKaye_Vortecx 3 месяца назад

    Thank you! learnt a lot!. defiantly getting these :)

  • @GoldiorSG
    @GoldiorSG 3 месяца назад

    Neumann KH80 vs iLoud MTM MKII if they are the same price?
    Looking for the best sounding compact studio speakers, which would be the better buy?
    I have access to both Neumann MA1 and ARC 3 / ARC 4 and Sonarworks

  • @thevoiceofgrandmother
    @thevoiceofgrandmother 3 месяца назад

    Conflicted because I'm weighing these against the LP-UNF. The MTM are priced at $1300/pair where I live versus the $350 for the Kali. I intend to use them for general listening in my vinyl set up (technics 1210 + DJ mixer into a high-end SPL DAC) both in nearfield while selecting songs (DJ stuff) and then further down the room as I sit on the couch and just listen for pleasure. Caveat is I’m restricted to just 5 inches of space between the back of the speaker and the wall. Given all of that, would you still recommend LP-UNF over the MTM MKII? Decent bass is important to me.

  • @Ve8g
    @Ve8g 2 месяца назад

    How deos it compare with the iloud MTM MKII ??

  • @RadekPilich
    @RadekPilich 2 месяца назад +1

    vs. Kali IN-UNF?

  • @delsurmusic
    @delsurmusic 2 месяца назад

    What do you think of these speakers for an Atmos set up (ceiling speakers)?

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 2 месяца назад

    hoping for a review of the new iloud Pro

  • @NosEL34
    @NosEL34 4 месяца назад

    Great review as always. What do use for EQ/PEQ/DSP? Just curious what devices or programs you use for personal use.
    Thanks!!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад +1

      I honestly don’t even remember the name of the program anymore. I had made a post asking for suggestions and went with the popular vote there. I’ll try to remember to look when I get a minute.

    • @chrisvinicombe9947
      @chrisvinicombe9947 4 месяца назад

      These speakers have software for eq, phase, emulation, and room correction. See the zeos review for some details (if you can put up with his ramblings)

    • @officialchill1706
      @officialchill1706 4 месяца назад +1

      EQ APO

    • @NosEL34
      @NosEL34 4 месяца назад

      ​@@officialchill1706👍

    • @NosEL34
      @NosEL34 4 месяца назад

      ​@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah👍

  • @lukabosnjak3829
    @lukabosnjak3829 4 месяца назад +2

    Id probably spend slightly more for the Neumann kh80 dsp... What's your opinion on this comparison?

    • @Audio_Simon
      @Audio_Simon 4 месяца назад +2

      KH80 is probably a more balanced design, but it is bigger and more expensive.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад +4

      I’d take the Neumann.

    • @celinean1
      @celinean1 4 месяца назад +3

      I tried both at the same time, for nearfield. I liked the iLoud a bit more, especially with room correction (antimode X2) . Neutral enough, but with much better bass extension. Plus it has built in room correction.

    • @Audio_Simon
      @Audio_Simon 4 месяца назад

      @celinean1 IMHO getting the tweeter and woofer to merge well becomes more important for nearfield than far-field. The 3" woofer in the iLoud vs. 5" woofer in KH80 should help there. Although the 'benefit' of the vertical mtm notch is debatable. Thanks for sharing your direct experience 👍

  • @1337sim1
    @1337sim1 4 месяца назад

    Looking at the compression data... Is that what Skrillex meant by "d-d-d-drop the bass" ? 😋

  • @DWHarper62
    @DWHarper62 4 месяца назад

    I've never seen anyone place these speakers on their "side"... It would also take up way more desk space and overall horizontal space in the room...

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 Месяц назад

    Theres no site writeup yet

  • @wack...
    @wack... 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for the video

  • @WWeiss-nv5vz
    @WWeiss-nv5vz 4 месяца назад

    How do speakers like these compare with small studio monitors?

    • @ubacow7109
      @ubacow7109 4 месяца назад

      I mean these are small studio monitors

  • @liamporter1137
    @liamporter1137 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 4 месяца назад +1

    I found that "THE" major change in Sound-Quality of my Home Theater is... THE QUALITY OF THE BROADCAST OR MEDIA ITSELF.

    •  4 месяца назад

      ok

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 месяца назад

      ... garbage in, garbage out

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 3 месяца назад

      It does help but lower quality stuff CAN STILL SOUND DECENT ON GOOD SPEAKERS

  • @nonothing9685
    @nonothing9685 4 месяца назад

    Do you ever wonder if these companies design these speakers assuming people will have them near walls for the bass gain? Or am i just giving them too much credit?

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад +2

      They do. The good ones include DSP settings for this. Kali, Genelec, Neumann and others. This one has a bass extension knob but namely comes with the EQ mic and software.

    • @hom2fu
      @hom2fu 4 месяца назад

      they do. the expensive(passive speaker) have 3 different crossover you can pick.

  • @navidmahmood876
    @navidmahmood876 4 месяца назад

    Somehow these have a lower f3 and f10 than klipsch tower speakers!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  4 месяца назад

      DSP boost. But they run out of steam earlier than the Klipsch.

  • @TechnoAssassin-vx6zf
    @TechnoAssassin-vx6zf 2 месяца назад

    IK website say they are minus 10db at 36hz……😬😬😬 your graph shows minus 10 at 45hz 😬😬😬 and around 35hz on your graph they are around minus 30db……😬😬😬😬😬😬😬

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 4 месяца назад

    PERSONALLY, I would enjoy Hearing About the 'Construction-Quality' of Speaker "DRIVERS", How they're made, Who Makes the Best, and How Many Speaker Fabricators' 'Make Their Own Drivers'.... or don't. .

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 месяца назад

      Very few mfrs make their own drivers, that's what driver build houses are for.
      Many claim they design their drivers, a few actually do, then they work with an oem to build them custom.
      However the vast majority utilize off the shelf drivers and implement them into their own loudspeaker offering.
      Even Wilson has their drivers built ... they have however, begun to make their own capacitors in house (no small task).

  • @johnmensah7206
    @johnmensah7206 3 месяца назад

    Erin u doing a great job.i asked about the fiera 8 in the other forum and u sad u have it...if u don't want it you can cut me a deal and I will get it from u if that's ok.thanks

  • @danielezzet8870
    @danielezzet8870 4 месяца назад

    The directivity and linearity looks worse than the first generation mtm (at least comparing from the ASR results)

  • @sebastianbaran9645
    @sebastianbaran9645 4 месяца назад

    Yikes. Glad I went with the Neumann KH120 II's.

  • @christianreichelt824
    @christianreichelt824 3 месяца назад

    I wanna buy some deodorant and a new T-Shirt? Do you smell it through the internet??

  • @davidfuller581
    @davidfuller581 4 месяца назад

    Pretty unsurprising - lots of bass extension at small size = basically no SPL capabilities. It's already starting to have a bad time at 86dB.

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 месяца назад

      Indeed!
      Somewhat akin to in-ears, ... superb extension, but no level!

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 3 месяца назад

      ​@@FOH3663idk, my Bose in ears are more than enough. Their downside is cable microphonics. I only add a little extra bass which I seen to prefer in headphones, and a small dip at 5kHz
      That said I noticed my AKG over ears seem to run out of coil excursion on higher level bass content. Which is also boosted with my tuning. Luckily I seldom listen at such levels.

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 3 месяца назад

      @@RennieAsh
      Sweet. I've got great in-ears too.
      I was just making a loudspeaker physics joke that any size driver can have extension, if you forsake level.

  • @seanb3303
    @seanb3303 4 месяца назад +2

    iLoud? Lol on the Chinese branding

    • @bc8Sooners
      @bc8Sooners 4 месяца назад +1

      The company website said it started in Modena, Italy, their website listed Italy address and Florida US address.

    • @seanb3303
      @seanb3303 4 месяца назад +1

      @@bc8Sooners maybe they got their branding from Fiverr 😂

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 4 месяца назад

    They've just too expensive for what they are

  • @patrickinglis1030
    @patrickinglis1030 4 месяца назад +1

    Not intersting. What about usb, compare to line in. What compare to. Do you like it. Too short review

  • @Roddy451
    @Roddy451 4 месяца назад

    mhtirogla