Aston Martin going BACKWARDS. Again.
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Aston Martin had a reality check at Imola. Mercedes are long gone.
In this video, we dive deep into the unfolding crisis at Aston Martin, where Fernando Alonso has just faced his worst ever Formula 1 result, finishing a shocking 19th. The team's performance has plummeted, with ineffective upgrades turning their car into a difficult beast to handle. Internal tensions are running high, especially with Lance Stroll benefiting from strategic decisions at Alonso's expense. We explore how a once-promising team is now mired in leadership issues, frustrated investors like Honda and Aramco, and a toxic work environment. Discover the unsettling truth behind Aston Martin's decline, the struggles of their bold upgrade package, and the growing pressure from big investors. Can Aston Martin recover from this slump, or is this the beginning of a steep and irreversible decline? With speculation about Alonso's dissatisfaction and potential team changes, we examine the future of this iconic team. Tune in to uncover the shocking realities and what lies ahead for Aston Martin. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more in-depth F1 insights and updates!
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Aston Martin's F1 season just got EVEN WORSE
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"The Stroll family is one generation away from barking at people"
"Warning: extreme levels of window licking have now been achieved"
- The Mohawk Dude (yes Law I value both of you equally! Yours is the logic and rational angle, Mohawk is, well, I don't really know how to describe it but it is a form of 'it'...)
RocketPoweredMohawk is the F1 GOAT, everyone else is ... MID
RPM is also logical and rational just with more shouting and ad unfriendly humor.
Disgusting! 🤣🤣🤣
ah, a man of culture
Maybe Krack was right when he said that they wanna develop the car more in line with the preferences of Lance.
No way he actually said that...
@@kukelhupf yup, in an older interview he mentioned they wanted to upgrade the car so it was more predictable and Stroll could feel more comfortable in it.
New McLaren livery just dropped 😀
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Is there a preview?
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It so Beautiful
And respect for Senna
Yeah, oh official McLaren YT channel@@REINCHU09
AM : What we do here is go back
*bass drop*
*background aesthetic vocals*
To anyone wondering why Aston Martin is a huge issue, my suggestion would also be to check out RocketPoweredMohawks newest hit piece of investigative journalism. Ladder Father is making excellent points, but the Bathtub Lad is much more willing to be unrated about it.
You would think that at some point the new investors are going to put pressure on papa Stroll to get the window licker out of that seat.
@@WRC-FAN they should pressure Stroll to get Lance off the seat and pair Alonso with Sainz (assuming he gives up on the prospect of replacing Checo).
He shows facts and talk about what most people don't realize. So that worths a watch
Having a trash second driver doesn’t stop your upgrades from working though. Fernando’s input alone should be more than sufficient to ensure at least some positive development occurs in-season.
@@Tehlongcattrue, but someone previously stated that the upgrades were focused on making the car better for Lance.
Pretty sure they're sabotaging Alonso's car to make Lance look half decent, but you cant fool us 😂😂😂
Wouldn't be the first time Papa Stroll has done something like that. Extremely plausible.
Wdym? They already did a race where only Strolls' car had all the upgrades.
If that's not low-key sabotaging, idk what is.
We don't even need to speculate.
It has literally been done for all the world to see.
Alonso's tone and choice of words in the radios and interviews after that visibly changed.
I think they just swapped drivers tbh
@@santicar10 Entirely plausible 🤣
the latest video from the mohawk guy sums it all up perfectly
Absolutely correct!
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Rocketpoweredmohawk?
Ahh that freak I remember thinking he was "edgy" and "funny" jc some times I cringe at my past self
@@jasonkrisko6217 yup
1:28 bro practising for weeks so he can said the thing in one sitting. Amazing.
*So he can said*
Lmao
@@TheFriendlyAssassinProductions Bro practiced for a week so that he can wrote that.
@@TheFriendlyAssassinProductionsAmericans and British people releasing English isn’t everyone’s first language
Lmao
@@olivveira7 I'm Canadian 😭💀
@@TheFriendlyAssassinProductions I understand you usually mean US americans when saying the word ,,americans"...
But isn't Canada technically in (North) America as well haha?😅😂
Reason why Aston Martin is going backwards is because they are going with the “expertise” of lance stroll instead of Alonzo 🤦🏾♂️
I can easily see Honda making a late u-turn on their F1 commitment, if this keeps happening.
They'll just jump in with someone else if that happens, probably Andretti.
@@Dexter037S4 Andretti have already committed to a GM partnership
McLaren again. They'll do it.
@@TheFoggyjones McLaren is committed to a Mercedes partnership. I don't think they're jumping ship to Honda, but we'll see
The worst part is that they started out so strong.
It's not just that they are as bad as always, but that they have fallen so far. It's far more disappointing this way
Really wish all drivers were treated the same when their teams regress. Hope AM get it together, because watching Fernando race is so much fun. Hopefully losing in a race to lance is an outlier. Really hope Aston isnt screwing him over, but you make some REALLY interesting points. I find angry Fernando amd Max are on a tier of their own with Yuki. Lewis didnt deserve that stray 😂😂😂😂
Mclaren livery ❤❤
I mean, its no wonder Seb didn't feel like going through this back in 2022.
Sure, they had a better car in 2023 but no one expected the other trams to get it so wrong.
AM didn't go backwards, they just were caught up by everyone else.
Also congrats on saying the whole imola name in one go lol.
Tbf not progressing forward with the teams around you IS going backwards
The fact that Lance is still there after his constant mediocre performances says everything about the team right now. If they were serious they would have found a new driver that can perform consistently and pull as much performance as possible out of the car, like Fernando. I worry that they are favouring Lance over Fernando and aren’t even using any of Fernando’s feedback. I feel like Lance would not give the same quality of feedback to the engineers which is why the car seems to be moving backwards in terms of upgrades. If Stroll Sr. really wants a championship winning team, he needs to identify roadblocks without bias.
At minimum, Lawrence needs to swap Lance into the test driver seat and get Drugovich in the car, at least for one race weekend
From the outside, it does appear that possibly, Krack (with Papa Stroll's backing) is now really going to base car development on Lance's feedback and preferences. If it doesn't pan out with positive results, that might help Papa justify (to himself and Lance, mostly) finally moving Lance out of the race seat. This would make room for Yuki, thus appeasing Honda, investors, sponsors, and Fernando. Something of a "prove it, Lance" situation.
@@Thuddster I hope you're right, but that might come too late. Lawrence Stroll will keep Lance there as long as Lance's indifference lasts. It might be a "chicken/egg" situation where Lawrence wants Lance there because he thinks Lance still wants to be a Formula 1 driver, and Lance is only there still because he thinks it means so much to his father, lol. Pure speculation, but who knows.
@@MrGulaorou You said perfectly what I've been thinkng. Lance doesn't really seem all that enthused about being in the sport anymore. Either that, or he feels no pressure and thats what we're seeing.
They are serious! Serious about wasting money on mediocrity.
Alonso was trying different setups on the race because the wind tunnel data was not matching behavior on track (Mercedes wind tunnel). He pitted several times gathering data with different ride heights and floor geometry opposite to Lance's. Aston Martin's issues right now is that they lose a ton of downforce on bumpy circuits like Imola, same will happen in Monaco.
You sound like a Lewis Fan mate 😂
Just say he WAS ASS 😂😂😂
@@kanyobanda1206and you sound like a complete ignorant. Unlike your comment, his is actually contributing value.
They can't change ride heights in a pitstop.
@@kanyobanda1206 Okay Alonslow fan
After 150 races, you'd hope that pretty much anyone would be at least as good as Stroll in the same equipment.
ever since they published that the team is built around lance, Alonso's performance has tanked and everything has gone down, despite the fact the start of the season was amazing and once he signed the contract, dip.
I was typing this as you were reaching for the foam LMAO
When does he use the foam?
Another note, if the team is being built around lance, including the upgrades, that could be why alonso is tanking since papa stroll wants his son to win the title in 2026. honda and aramco want a champion and they picture fernando but daddy and son want it for themselves and would rather take the team down with it to try and boost themselves, rather than boosting the team
Alonso's sole job is to be number 2 and to help Lance get further up the field. It's all about Lance. Like Mike Krack has said, this team is built around Lance. The only way Lance is out is if he loses his super licence.
Well the initial surge in Aston Martin's performance was due to Seb's relentless pushing for development and by giving an accurate roadmap of the development path. After the first half which is where the Seb's effect was till Aston were flying, after which the decline is for all of us to see. As Aston had admitted that Seb was a performance engineer and not just the driver.
So, this is the reality of Aston Martin.
I heard some news that Alonso and AM were treating the race as a test and running equal stints on each compound to learn where the gaps are between the wind tunnel and the race track.
McLaren livery is not red and white, but it's still stunning! They really surpassed Ferrari in performance and the livery game!
Daddy Stroll doesn't want a winning team, he wants his son to win. There's a difference. Lawrence is the low key abusive sports dad forcing his son to live out daddy's missed dreams. When you realize this, it all makes sense.
I just need more "defend like a lion" radio calls
Oh yeah. Lance "I used cheatcode in F3 only to win less than half the races in season" Stroll.
Alonso realising that he's just there to make the son look better than he is.
Really proud of Yuki and wants him to get a better car :< VCARB qualy pace is good but still struggle with race pace.
*(Rant about AM's current performance in 2024, from a casual F1 fan's perspective.)*
Aston Martin, you as a team (from Lawerence Stroll to the management team to the engineers hard at work improving the car) need to step up your A-Game. [after the summer break and 2025 pre-season and F1 Season]. I had high hopes for you as another British team *since 2021 (when you bought Racing Point)* to regularly compete for podiums, top 5 finishes and occasional wins by strategy or pure luck [though I doubt it cus, *Max Verstappen.* ]. You had a competitive midfield car last year (8 podiums in 22 race entries)! One-third of the season, and imo right now this is *beyond woeful.* (Sidenote: Haas, Alpine, Williams and Sauber, you guys aren't scot-free)
Honestly guys, *please get your act together.* I'm always hoping for another season like 2012 (6 different drivers from 5 different F1 teams winning a race in that single season, *in a row).*
I *love competition, teams fighting it out for the coveted WDC trophy come Abu Dhabi or Brazil (that's how I got into F1),* and this is *just not it.* If you don't step it up come Monaco or British GP or after the summer break (at least top 5 finish in one of the next few races before summer break after the completion of Spa), *I don't know if I can support you anymore.*
I sincerely hope that this performance from AM (and other teams like Alpine, Sauber [2026-Audi], Haas, Williams and VCARB tanking to develop their car early for next year) isn't part of their current and long-term roadmap because *HOT TAKES for AM (maybe/maybe not, we'll see):*
- Drive to Survive *will eventually* get cancelled by Netflix (because viewership will tank yr-on-yr if the narrative stays the same *[Max Verstappen dominating, occasional podiums from other teams, and Max Verstappen taking the title, rinse and repeat]* and it's boring imo for US audience fans who used to see *different teams win in American Sports* like NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc).
- AM might not be able to compete for F1 WDC come 2026/2027, and *AM gets sold to another investor/manufacturer come 2030/2035.*
Aston Martin are evolving but backward
You mean they are devolving.
@@Jona-cn3leunvolving
soon to be barking at people
@@neddles33 Yeah in breeding has it consequences 🤣🤣🤣
Love the content mate. Keep it up!
I think some are forgetting the effective B spec car Aston Martin brought to Spain 2022 which didn't improve their performance until Singapore, 11 races left. Vettel was fighting for top 5 finish at Baku and Belgium but and was 7th at Britain before the safety car but other than no performance improvements really.
Different situation compared to now but still.
And the other face is that Yuki Tsunoda is slowly climbing up...with rumors he's on Audi's un-official list.....
IMHO….your best post-race analysis in your brief ladder climbing career…bravo!
I don't see Aston Martin fighting at the top as long as Lance is one of those seats. The car can be developed a lot better with the inputs of another talented driver alongside Fernando.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
"a team culture of fear, intimidation, big money/presure" is what we accidentally witnessed last year, when Lance pushed that mechanic, while Aston Martin remained uncomfortably quite on the matter!
The fact AM's campaign evolves solely around the bosses underwhelming son is a madness that's embarrassing to watch - Stroll is humiliating/tarnishing the respected name of Aston Martin!
That last part depends on how you look at it. In F1, this is absolutely true. Outside of F1, Lawrence has done nothing but great things for the Aston Martin brand. From that perspective, the Stroll name is an absolute high point in the story of Aston Martin, especially as the brand appears to be entering a new golden age with the DB12 and other new releases
God I wish Papa Stroll would just let his son go, I still wish we got a Vettel and Alonso team combo for at least 1 year
That's pretty wild that Imola 2024 is Nando's worst F1 result considering that he drove for Minardi! That's actually blown my mind a little bit! 😂
I looked back to check it was true and the worst classified result he got for Minardi was 17th at the 2001 French GP...blew my mind.
As an Aston fan. You’re bang on the money
I think aston Martin's huge jump in performance at the beginning of lasy year has created much higher expectations than the team really needs. They didn't expect to be that good but now they've been outperformed by better teams
Well he did crash in FP3 which hurt this qualifying so his race was already compromised before it even really started. The fact that they can't bring upgrades that improves the car is a true problem since it's for the second season in a row.
I’m convinced Alonso can drive any car to its limit, but he can’t develop it. I might be wrong, and I’m happy to be proven wrong, but it seems like his preference of understeer slows down the car.
I was waiting for this omg 😭😭😭🙏🏾
Dont AM still use the Mercedes Wind Tunnel …
All Mercedes usually say the car looks good in the wind tunnel but not on track, the same issue with AM..
Maybe the Wind Tunnel sim needs recalibrating
I think you're overlooking the fact that the 100% safety car stat was being touted by everyone. Almost every team was hoping for one
It's showing we can't trust the Safety Car to rescue a race.
@@LawVS if the commentatora had know Magnussen was going to be cautious, they probably would have bumped down the 100%
Great observation Lawrence!
Waiting to see how long before Nando starts blessing us with radio gems like GP2. Sroll Sr is F1s version of Jerry Jones Sr.
1:20 I yelled 'Foam of Doubt'...I'm way too invested in Foddy...
1:28... say that 10 times😁
Do you ever sleep bro? Thanks for the content :) 😊
Many years ago it was occasionally suggested that one of the issues with Fernando Alonso was that he wasn't a good development driver and honestly I'm feeling more and more inclined to believe that as AM slide backwards from wherever they started the year and have upgrades fail again and again. To be clear this isn't all his fault; most of it has to be traced to the team's structure and workflow and, let's be real, having a more competent, less apathetic driver in the second seat would absolutely help but you've got to wonder at this stage.
They should make updates for Alonso and not try to please Stroll jr. Every time they bring a update Alonso gets slower.
Hoping it goes well at aston.I really dont wanna see alonso suffer again in the mid field. He is a top driver deserving of the best cars not for his sake but for the sake of the sport as well. some of the best times/seasons in the last 20 years of F1 were the ones where Alonso had championship contending cars.after ferrari it has been all downhill sadly.
I wish AMR gets better. but the way its looking the best they can do for monaco is bring back AMR23 from monaco. Maybe theyll get points easily with it
You cant have a team culture when 1 of your 2 drivers is dragging all the team efforts down.
I mean we can't judge Aston Martin's upgrade as Alonso had a crap weekend. In reality they've been in this position since last years' British Grand Prix apart from the odd race.
already waiting for your thoughts on special mclaren livery😁
imo it’s STUNNING💚💛💙
i feel sorry for Fernando who ended up in the "Stroller" car.
Could AM be focusing the car to the liking of Lance and the feedback from his side of the window
Okay, tin-hat on the Vettel thing, but I couldn't help but notice he skipped the rounds where the Aramco investors would have been in 2022 and I think his 'sickness' was more likely him being briefly sidelined for refusing to toe the party line and pretend he was okay working with one of the more infamous petrochemical companies and human-rights violators in the Saud family on their home soil. I don't think he was very happy there anyway and I think this might have been the final straw.
It does feel incredibly odd. If I ever get to interview Seb I will ask him what was up.
7:39
This aged well. Suprisingly or Unsuprisingly Aston Martin was the only team to be slower than their 2023 Qualifying runs, not helped by the fact that alonso didn't manage to get a clean lap in Q1, but also the fact that even in his fastest Q1 lap, his sector 1 was 0.2s slower than the fastest time set at the time (I think it was piastri).
One idea from a reddit comment I saw was that, the engineers that AM poached from Red Bull esp Dan Fallows bring in whatever concept that made the Red Bull great into the AMR23, but as soon as they bring upgrades which moved away from the concept, thats where the consistency and balance of the car start to fall disappear. I really hope that their new wind tunnel will help mitigate their corelation issues
Goes to show the power of Adrian Newey as an overseer who can refine ideas from afar
Damn I miss Seb. You can tell Seb totally didnt want to be at AM anymore, he was excited for 2021 but it didnt last long.
This is affirming the confession that the team made that the operation built entirely around the Strolls. Room for reasonable doubt is shrinking and it looks increasingly plausible that the upgrade package is being catered towards Lance instead of optimising for pace & consistency.
This is what happens when you have Red Bull's Aero Chief without Newey... Same as Red Bull now have
I think they will get better when they actually get their own wind tunnel, the mercedes one is just trash atm (both teams say that their data from tunnel is not correlating with the track performance)
Take the BR green livery and you will find its similar to the Jordan in the late 90's,had am amazing season and then down it all went.
Did you see the McLaren livery??! It’s so nice!
There’s no way Vettel would’ve known or believed the AMR23 was going to be so much more competitive (it still was never even the second best car on the grid).
what are the chances that in 2026 the Aston Martin Factory will have an Aramco Honda logo on it
1:28 Ah u did the unthinkable
Fellow McMuffin fan, have you seen yonder yellow livery? I'm sure you have. But it's a fun thing to look at. Aston Martin is definitely B-list, so.
Why there no talk about the wind tunnel because look at Mercedes they both using the same wind tunnel maybe there something deeper than just the team.
i am pissed of at Honda, who left (again) left Red Bull with a headache over how they would solve the problem with the engine supplier, for more or less 15min later to come back to F1.. I AM PISSED as a RB supporter. Tho Jos Verstappen had me losing my "passion" for RB, same with Max who sided with his father in that drama chaos.
AM was fast because they had a flexy front wing. The FIA clamped down on it and they have been scrambling ever since. They have recovered some of the performance, but not all. Alonso has been driving the car above its potential, so he's going to have some bad weeks. They blew the opportunity to win Monaco when they were fast. It's not coming back.
A video you should check out on doing is how Carlos Sainz Sr departed from Audi in Dakar to join Ford cause that’s probably why Carlos Sainz Jr isn’t so happy about joining Stake despite a big money from them
Wasn't that because Audi axed their GT3 and Dakar programs in order to focus on F1?
@@parrotantics2046true but the fact it’s Ford who is gonna join Redbull Racing in 2026 could have more to play than most people think
“ my ass crack is itchy’ …..by the end of the season AM will be racing Haas
Thoughts on Pat Symonds to Andretti?
I’m surprised you haven’t posted about Andretti F1 new member of staff. Pat Symonds has resigned from his post with F1 and joined Andretti. Now he wouldn’t do that if they weren’t getting in would he and, he should know working inside the F1 “club” as they seem to want to run it.
Every excuse F1 has raised has been shot down including put lanes aren’t big enough to hold more than 10 F1 cars especially as Spa managed well over 30 cars at the six hour WEC race. Oh, and the coverage was free for all the sessions too.
I've got a kiddo to look after and I'll cover it in my preview video for Monaco.
The professional yappa
On top of a ladda
Has done it again
That mclaren livery though❤
The FOM was suppose to address the US Congress. Do you know what was the result? I see nothing on this topic anywhere.
If Alonso of all people can't hustle that car around the track you really know it's a hunk of crap
Fun content but the bro is like being about to tell us a goosebumps story... how on earth did he examined his presentation options and decided going up the attic to speak about F1 will do the job?😂😂
Like i said though content is decent, keep it up!!
Tbf Lance has had his stint of good driving quite early this year. Let's see if this will be the usual three race period or something more
His indifference tells me otherwise.
Did Aston Martin start going forward? When did I miss that?
When the media bashing and comparing Lance Stroll with Alonso or Vettel ... suddenly Lance Stroll become better and the world champions seems like they don't know how to drive....maybe internal politics made Vettel to leave ☝️☝️☝️
18:45 what's this about Adrian Newey going to Mclaren? Seemed like Mclaren wasn't really is the discussion in spite of Zack and Adrian being friends.
EJ let slip at a dinner chat. Could've been a mistake or letting the cat out of the bag
@1:28 👏👏🥳🥳
If it’s all about the bosses son then I’m sure their building the car around lance if anything more so Alonso and what he prefers. Sure this thought is a bit out there, but it could be something they’ve been doing to make lance not look as bad. If they made the car awesome and Alonso is constantly at the top and lance is at the bottom. It could add even more pressure on papa stroll with the investors , but Them being equally as “bad” can buy them a little bit more time and could give them more wiggle room to say we’re still figuring it out .because now it’s just them struggling as a team vs just the bosses son.
At this point Stroll better sells AM to Aramco, it can´t get worse than it is. At least they might be more dedicated.
Thankfully Alonso finished ahead of Logan which means Logan's streak of being the last car to finish continues.
The first thing AM have to do is get a better #2 driver ..... mini stroller is not that guy. TBH, mini stroller is not even fit for purpose as reserve driver in HAAS; Alpine or Williams. Get Bottas there or Liam Lawson perhaps.
no drugovich deserves his chance
Was there a problem with Alonso’s car, or was it that the “upgrades” just didn’t work?
his brakes were on literal fire on when he was exiting the pits, so it could be
@@miguelcebriancarrasco1907ok, thanks.
I live in Spain as an Aston Martin fan but the S is silent.
I don't see a quick mclaren recovery considering that is mclaren we are talking about. Aston Martin is a relatively new reality that grew too fast and a thing that doesn't work is Lance Stroll that is maybe on par with Sargeant but nothing more. You can rule a team with the iron fist, but you cannot cover the deficiency of your son, Lawrence is wasting money.
The foam of doubt has spoken!
How did Alonso, who literally carried the team back in 2023 couldn't even beat in qualifying pace the two Sauber drivers?
Looks like they are trying to boost Strolls appeal for the new sponsors coming by making Alonso look bad.
Alonso getting another GP2 engine will be funny as hell. 😂
Not me thinking that the comments about the new mclaren livery were talking about aston martin looking as bad as mclaren in their down year 😂
I'm speechless, can't even describe how I'm feeling right now☹
#FallFromGrace #UpgradingBackward