Why Synopsys Bought Ansys (For $35 Billion)

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  • @semajnollissor661
    @semajnollissor661 11 месяцев назад +333

    Wow, sold the company for the price of only 70 multiphysics licenses.

    • @amityummit
      @amityummit 11 месяцев назад

      @@ashifarman4813He is Sarcastically mentioning the very expensive Multiphysics Software from Ansys.

  • @AlecMuller
    @AlecMuller 11 месяцев назад +345

    I'm a mechanical engineer (independent contractor, so I have to pay out of pocket to rent software). I rented a stand-alone seat of ANSYS (structural + thermal + SolidWorks Plug-in) for a year and a half for a project, and it cost more than 2X as much as my car. It's powerful, but *man*, it's expensive.

    • @salmiakki5638
      @salmiakki5638 11 месяцев назад +36

      That's every commercial license for a CAD (to a smaller degree), FEM, or CFD SW unfortunately

    • @lucasbueno7534
      @lucasbueno7534 11 месяцев назад +26

      Some analysis can be executed in open source software - OpenFOAM and CalculiX.

    • @EuphoricDan
      @EuphoricDan 11 месяцев назад +53

      There's free Finite Element Analysis software that's maintained by the Finnish Government called Elmer FEM. It's a bit wonky to get everything integrated into a workflow but it does all the things, and is free.

    • @NvidiaRTX5080
      @NvidiaRTX5080 11 месяцев назад

      @@salmiakki5638 hey when your engineers cost 200k/yr, 50k is nothing for software that can double their efficiency

    • @DMSparky
      @DMSparky 11 месяцев назад +28

      @@EuphoricDanbased Finland.

  • @q45ij54q
    @q45ij54q 11 месяцев назад +168

    Ansys also owns Redhawk which is the industry-leading IR/EM analysis tool. This was a hole in their backend design flow that I'm sure Synopsys wanted to fill. Cadence has Voltus for this type of verification and now Synopsys has responded.

    • @piercebros
      @piercebros 11 месяцев назад +1

      interesting!

    • @Cokoladni
      @Cokoladni 11 месяцев назад +1

      what is ir em analysis?

    • @LostieTrekieTechie
      @LostieTrekieTechie 11 месяцев назад +3

      They also bought AGI (formerly: Analytical Graphics Inc, now: Ansys Government Initiatives) a year or two ago, who track satellites and do geospatial simulations, and a few years back they created and spun off cesium (3D maps in web browsers).

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@LostieTrekieTechie - just to clarify, ANSYS did not spin off Cesium, AGI did the spin off as part of the (many) events involved in ANSYS acquiring AGI. Former AGI employee number 37 posting here.

    • @projecttitanium-slowishdriver
      @projecttitanium-slowishdriver 11 месяцев назад

      Hopefully Ansys start to a make workable programs. The programs are too famoust to corrupt files and delete simulation results.
      I have even wrote a parady ”the project must go on” from the ”the show must on ”because of Ansys

  • @erik9671
    @erik9671 11 месяцев назад +154

    As a Mech. Engineer who has mostly interacted with Ansys as a general Mechanical FEM software (Stresses, Eigenfrequencies) its a nice suprise to see software from the CAE-Sector show up on your channel. A big Advantage of ANsys as a simulation software I have seen a lot of people proclaim over other CFD/FEM/Thermal programs is that it has a lot of different modules, and is steadily connecting them (e.g.: Heat Transfer + the thermal impact on material properties under heat). Have you considered covering general CAD (i.e. Modelling) Software? Might not be highly relevant to your main topic of semiconductors, but I think it would be nice to see a coverage of the 2D->2.5D->3D evolution of Software, and the modern trends (integrated FEM (aka what you tend to call CAE in this video), CAD-CAM...).

    • @zilog1
      @zilog1 11 месяцев назад +3

      I'm a fan of silicon graphics computers and this is the perfect topic to bring up that company with those types of machines, those machines are so cool.😊

    • @TheOnlyDamien
      @TheOnlyDamien 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@zilog1 There are dozens of us! Something so incredibly fascinating about those old monoliths.

    • @annakquinn7084
      @annakquinn7084 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ansys is segmented and the ui is cumbersome. Siemens got better integration

  • @conor7154
    @conor7154 11 месяцев назад +446

    I put a bid in too, but I guess they didn’t want my 2000 dollars 😤

    • @mustaphaben2921
      @mustaphaben2921 11 месяцев назад +8

      Not enough try again

    • @THE_ONLY_REAL_WAFFLE
      @THE_ONLY_REAL_WAFFLE 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@mustaphaben29212001?

    • @Hepad_
      @Hepad_ 11 месяцев назад +21

      Skill issue

    • @rafikvolkov2677
      @rafikvolkov2677 11 месяцев назад +12

      They were probably hesitant with giving you a license at that price.

    • @xymaryai8283
      @xymaryai8283 11 месяцев назад +30

      they were too intimidated, you gotta send them chocolates to break the tension

  • @davidgunther8428
    @davidgunther8428 11 месяцев назад +78

    Amazing growth for Ansys: from $35 million to $35 billion in 30 years.
    Heat transfer is being taken very seriously.

    • @antoy384
      @antoy384 11 месяцев назад +4

      If everyone is paid fatly, that’s some nice wealth redistribution towards employees then. I often think about it with my company: Every buck I save on employees produces 10 bucks on valuation of my shares.
      (Real story: I try to differentiate employees who f me over from those who are genuine) (and now we have an absolutely awesome team).

    • @emrahny
      @emrahny 11 месяцев назад +2

      not heat only. semi and electrical analysis brings more than half of rev

    • @nanolog522
      @nanolog522 6 месяцев назад

      Its more than that. Their softwares are used for basically every single product and most steps of development. HFSS is used to simulate EM behaviour of devices for everything from small RF chips to wifi enabled coffee machines. They have SPEOS and Lumerical to simulate photonic chips up to how light behaves inside a newly designed car, the list ist pretty long.

  • @ats89117
    @ats89117 11 месяцев назад +72

    Wow, $35 billion for ANSYS? The per seat cost was already astronomical and I guess it will get even higher now...

    • @AnnatarTheMaia
      @AnnatarTheMaia 11 месяцев назад +12

      Hey, it's specialized software which is extremely useful for a very broad number of problems, and that kind of utility costs!

  • @lld4ae
    @lld4ae 11 месяцев назад +14

    We definitely need more videos of this caliber and expertise on RUclips! They are truly valuable and deserving of recognition. 👍❤️

  • @rodU65
    @rodU65 11 месяцев назад +36

    "Fluids are not like solids"❤🤯

  • @dmitriikruglov320
    @dmitriikruglov320 11 месяцев назад +9

    As somebody who works in a semiconductor company and uses Ansys tools daily, I have to say this video summarizes things 100% accurately.

  • @peterheynmoller2581
    @peterheynmoller2581 11 месяцев назад +10

    I find it very inspiring to watch any of your semiconductor videos as I am currently studying electrical engineering and we have a course that is related to circuit design (mostly analog) on a silicon level. It's really great to have a peak into cutting edge from time to time! It's amazing, your videos are both entertaining and motivate me to study... Insane combo!

  • @gabrielabrantes5317
    @gabrielabrantes5317 11 месяцев назад +4

    I was just running a CFD simulation on ansys and you uploaded this video, so nice to see an youtuber that I follow talking about something that I use everyday.

  • @timv598
    @timv598 11 месяцев назад +41

    You had me at "In the 1960s, John Swanson was working at the Westinghouse Astronuclear Lab in Pittsburgh.He went there to work on nuclear-fueled rockets with the goal of going to Mars - the NERVA " What an incredible series of words, I'd love to see what Vonnegut/Clarke/Asimov/Gibson/Haldeman/Heinlein would do with that as the first line of a short story.

    • @vbrotherita
      @vbrotherita 11 месяцев назад +4

      Nice observation from you, tech corporates history gets really engaging at times.

    • @eliavrad2845
      @eliavrad2845 11 месяцев назад +2

      I'm impressed with the restraint of calling it NERVA, which I'm sure they did just so they could call the full working version MINERVA

  • @towlie911
    @towlie911 11 месяцев назад +94

    Correct pronunciation of Euler is to read it as “Oiler”
    Based on the word Eule or owl in German. Thanks for the video!

    • @jpkotta
      @jpkotta 11 месяцев назад +14

      I will now pronounce it as "owler".

    • @kawafahra
      @kawafahra 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jpkotta °v°

    • @billschannel1116
      @billschannel1116 11 месяцев назад +4

      I have to thank you. Not sure why but you caused me to search for a similar words pronounciation. I googled it on the phone and discovered google not only has pronunciation (which I expected) but it actually will listen to you say the word and write out your mistakes. Thanks!

    • @nick21614
      @nick21614 11 месяцев назад +1

      Nice you can say it that way in German then. In English, it is pronounced you-ler.

  • @wasimshaikh1665
    @wasimshaikh1665 11 месяцев назад +18

    I work on Ansys everyday but never knew the history

  • @woolfel
    @woolfel 11 месяцев назад +46

    another great video. If only tech review youtubers would realize how tough it is to design and build chips, maybe they would shut up about performance benchmarks. fact that AMD and Apple can keep increasing performance every year is an amazing achievement that people take fore granted

  • @googleyoutubechannel8554
    @googleyoutubechannel8554 11 месяцев назад +10

    This critical misconception has permeated everything in physics and engineering and is so damaging: "the complex non-linear equations that _govern_ fluid dynamics". no. just no. the flavor of algebra, and equations we express in that specific algebra, that we've invented, are just imprecise _models_ of fluid dynamics.
    This isn't a subtle difference in language, it's a fundamental and enormously damaging misconception that holds back human progress.

    • @semajnollissor661
      @semajnollissor661 11 месяцев назад +5

      Not only that, but the underlying mathematical differences between solid modeling and fluid modeling mean that (in general) any model that includes fluid-structure interaction cannot be arbitrarily scaled. That's why wind tunnels are still being built.
      Also, I find it somewhat ironic that ANSYS (the structural FEA application) is one of those applications that does not easily take advantage of parallel computing, given that the company was purchased with the goal of aiding the chiplet design process.

    • @samfedorka5629
      @samfedorka5629 11 месяцев назад +1

      There are software like COMSOL that operate on the constitutive relationships: solving the first-principles equations inside mesh cells and the boundary relationships between them. Monte Carlo simulations (more common in research, but do exist in some industries) also operate similarly. Confusing these with the sort of CFD simulation that ANSYS does in a genera-audience video like this does not hold back human progress. The humans making progress use all sorts of different tools for their simulation. There is even a third archetype that gets some use, and that's before we get into the FFT/ IFT versions of all the above.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 11 месяцев назад

      All it takes to accelerate human progress….
      Is grab the bull by the horns, and use your calculus skills…
      More time spent complaining about what another person has done, is one more day wasted not getting to the place you want to be…
      You can be a billionaire… get on your horse and ride!
      😃

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 11 месяцев назад

      Aye. People seem to think the imprecise models they use actually drive reality. And then complain when reality disagrees. Physics approximates reality, nothing "governs" nature.

    • @Eng_Simoes
      @Eng_Simoes 4 месяца назад

      In electromagnetics there is nothing imprecise.

  • @efarren1563
    @efarren1563 11 месяцев назад +43

    How do you pump out quality videos so fast?!

    • @EffigyOfCorrectOpinions
      @EffigyOfCorrectOpinions 11 месяцев назад +6

      Listen to how tired his voice sounds in this video. That's how. Our boi just trucks through the pain

    • @efarren1563
      @efarren1563 11 месяцев назад +3

      @micro-organism-pv5gd I don't think the voice-over is the time-consuming part. The research is the impressive part

  • @scarletkittyeyes
    @scarletkittyeyes 11 месяцев назад +9

    man do I not miss the math of my fluid dynamics class. never take 2 programming classes and 2 physics classes in 1 quarter unless you are genuinely obsessed with both 😂

    • @rahulvats95
      @rahulvats95 11 месяцев назад

      Navier stokes equation and it's solution. 😅

  • @henrychan720
    @henrychan720 11 месяцев назад +46

    It’s pronounced “Oiler” not “Euler”

    • @makerspace533
      @makerspace533 11 месяцев назад +9

      He did that just to make sure we were listening.

    • @Hepad_
      @Hepad_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      If you want to be pedantic you might as well recommend the real pronunciation

    • @codejunki567
      @codejunki567 11 месяцев назад +1

      So is Euclidean pronounced "oiclidean?"

    • @guaposneeze
      @guaposneeze 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@codejunki567 Euclid, much to his shame, wasn't a German speaker. So his name isn't said with a German pronunciation.

    • @codejunki567
      @codejunki567 11 месяцев назад

      @guaposneeze Cool, just curious, never heard that before.

  • @_sahildahat_
    @_sahildahat_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a Chemical engineer who has worked with ANSYS fluent & built some structural components which we later tested out. It is an awesome software which works great & I am really amazed to see the fluid simulations. We had Computational Fluid Dynamics as a subject which deals with various parts as also explained in the video.

  • @beautifulsmall
    @beautifulsmall 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ansys, steep learning curve, every time. Excellent if you have the time and the crashes don't demoralize you too much. Great video.

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 11 месяцев назад +24

    Somewhere in the bowels of each automotive company, someone has the data on how they know all those plastic parts on your car's engine will turn brittle and fail. All modelled in Ansys I'm sure.

    • @Eng_Simoes
      @Eng_Simoes 4 месяца назад

      Actually not. Dassault, MSC, Altair and Siemens are stronger in automotive

  • @maxdelayer
    @maxdelayer 11 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you for the synopsis!

  • @b.6603
    @b.6603 11 месяцев назад +31

    Another note on anti-monopoly issues: given how crucial thermal simulation is for advanced packaging, Synopsis could shut off this capability for competitors such as Cadence
    I don't know if there are competitors to Ansys that could fill this role as a complementary solution to other EDA vendors

    • @JorenVaes
      @JorenVaes 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don't think that would fly in most of the world with respect to anti competitive practices. The only thing that comes close is that I've heard (but not myself seen) that Cadence, for example, gives discounts for EMX if cadence is always your first supplier for any tool they have in their portfolio. In other words, if you also want to use Keysight RFPro, you pay more for EMX.

    • @flexeos
      @flexeos 11 месяцев назад +3

      Siemens went the other way. They have a whole range of CAE tools including thermal and the acquired Mentor to add the EDA side of things

    • @rfengr00
      @rfengr00 11 месяцев назад +5

      Cadence already has Celsius, and they bought AWR for the RFIC and EM tools.

    • @mahussain1
      @mahussain1 11 месяцев назад

      Why no one is talking about Comsol?

    • @rfengr00
      @rfengr00 11 месяцев назад

      @@mahussain1Comsol probably works great for truly coupled problem like RF -> heat -> deformation -> RF but it doesn’t target any specific problem well.

  • @nitroxide17
    @nitroxide17 11 месяцев назад +3

    I had no idea ansys was born from NERVA project... wow!

  • @TrackZero
    @TrackZero 11 месяцев назад +20

    "the poor hornet", this is the moment I realized Asianometry is unhinged. ;D

  • @binent2093
    @binent2093 11 месяцев назад +5

    This can be summarized as virtually prototyping a design from “silicon to system.” Imagine a design flow that starts at a chip and goes all the way through package to pcb to automobile.

  • @keithdow8327
    @keithdow8327 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @DigitalJedi
    @DigitalJedi 11 месяцев назад +2

    I actually did my PhD on optimizing MCM packages. Balancing heat density and inter-chip latency due to distance was a huge tradeoff I had to consider. I think a great example of this now is looking at Intel's Sapphire and Emerald Rapids CPUs with the cores spread out away from the EMIB interconnects is a great example of this need.

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 11 месяцев назад +2

    One thing missing from academia teaching of tech history is biography, which you cover. It is amazing how important agency and human decision is for change.

  • @AZ-if2mj
    @AZ-if2mj 11 месяцев назад +5

    Not even a mention? The core design of eUV and every laser, imaging, illumination, etc. optical application is designed and analyzed on Code-V (Synopsys) and Zemax (Ansys). Now, Synopsys and Synopsys. As a Zemax user, I am concerned what will happen to Zemax.

    • @emoryjenkins6481
      @emoryjenkins6481 11 месяцев назад

      Zemax is trash tho

    • @Twinson1
      @Twinson1 9 месяцев назад

      Lumerical and Rsoft will also become one company. The entire optics simulation industry will become highly concentrated. I am afraid they will stop rolling out features because the market is locked down. Of course, price hikes are a given.

  • @ivocyrillo
    @ivocyrillo 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you and thanks to every asionmetrics Patreons.

  • @caonabocruzG
    @caonabocruzG 11 месяцев назад +5

    A software company so useful and revolutionary as ANSYS was sold cheaper than Tweeter...
    Inb4: advertising, data mining, etc. I know, but still...

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 11 месяцев назад

      Because twitter was bought by a rather low intelligence individual

    • @Mandragara
      @Mandragara 11 месяцев назад +2

      Musk over paying for something doesn't really say much about ANSYS

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 11 месяцев назад +15

    Ansys workbench is quite useful: you can do stress, CFD and even EM given the write package was downloaded.

    • @projecttitanium-slowishdriver
      @projecttitanium-slowishdriver 11 месяцев назад +2

      Also can corrupt your project easily and destroy everything. It is famous for this 😂

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 11 месяцев назад

      @@projecttitanium-slowishdriver ahh, something to be mindful of. Thanks for the info👍

  • @nitroxide17
    @nitroxide17 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ansys also has Helic which a electro magnetic simulator useful for on die structures like large interconnects and inductors.

  • @titaniummechanism3214
    @titaniummechanism3214 11 месяцев назад +2

    I only clicked on this because I build powerful servers on a daily basis and CFD is one of the more useful ways of really leveraging all that computing power. Simulating thermodynamics in processors using processors is wonderful, we went full circle ;)

  • @casey206969
    @casey206969 11 месяцев назад +14

    I think they bought it cause the names both end in "sys"

  • @sunroad7228
    @sunroad7228 11 месяцев назад +1

    "In any system of energy, Control is what consumes energy the most.
    No energy store holds enough energy to extract an amount of energy equal to the total energy it stores.
    No system of energy can deliver sum useful energy in excess of the total energy put into constructing it.
    This universal truth applies to all systems.
    Energy, like time, flows from past to future"(2017).

  • @alexkosinski2581
    @alexkosinski2581 11 месяцев назад +2

    This package design is definitely the intermediate future thing… The main problems will definitely be focused around cooling. Reminds me of the dawn of high rises in cities, we built up for specialization and climate control as we built upwards it was a learning process. The typical heat sink and heat dissipator/IHS isn’t going to work as well as it used to anymore..

  • @capability-snob
    @capability-snob 11 месяцев назад +2

    I remember implementing Finite Elephant Method in school - such a beautiful algorithm. I wanted to compliment you on your quality subtitles, we can really tell the care that went into getting them right.

    • @Eng_Simoes
      @Eng_Simoes 4 месяца назад

      You should get your money back

  • @logantodd5943
    @logantodd5943 11 месяцев назад +9

    Finally a video that “takes place” in Pittsburgh! My home town. My friend works at Ansys and I work just down the road!

  • @toobigtofit3584
    @toobigtofit3584 11 месяцев назад +9

    I was thrown off a bit yesterday when it was announced Renesas was buying Altium.

    • @ChiefBridgeFuser
      @ChiefBridgeFuser 11 месяцев назад +3

      Strange place for me to get my news - YT comments. Thanks for the news. Hopefully Renesas doesn't screw up Altium.

    • @VEC7ORlt
      @VEC7ORlt 11 месяцев назад +2

      Cant screw up something that is already f-d.

    • @ChiefBridgeFuser
      @ChiefBridgeFuser 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@VEC7ORltFor us, it's been better than a sharp stick in the eye.

    • @toobigtofit3584
      @toobigtofit3584 11 месяцев назад

      @@ChiefBridgeFuser Altium 24 has been mostly stable ish for me. Though I just got a runtime error 231.

    • @xenuburger7924
      @xenuburger7924 11 месяцев назад +3

      After a 20 year love affair with Altium, our team is moving on. Kicad is pretty good these days. I'd rather stick with Altium but eventually I will be forced to get with the program.

  • @venkateshinguva4062
    @venkateshinguva4062 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome that you mention Welch! He's the father of staggered grids. Staggered grids are the future of CFD. If only Perot will figure out his 3D mimetic interpolation for polyhedrals.

  • @niceguy6440
    @niceguy6440 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ansys's HFSS software is also something of a modern marvel IMO - definitely one of my favorite suites out there.

  • @vivekchand4316
    @vivekchand4316 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video...I have always enjoyed your videos....Ansys also has Lumerical FDTD solutions...which are used for optical interconnects, etc. Eventually, all interconnects on these chips might be replaced by light based interconnects to reduced heat...

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon1962 11 месяцев назад +6

    Just to put that in context, a few years back, IBM bought Redhat for US $37 bil.
    And Apple is worth (I googled this before typing it) US $2.4 Trillion.
    We are talking about a substantial purchase, but not insane by any means.

  • @attilavs2
    @attilavs2 11 месяцев назад +4

    That's a sweet thumbnail if i ever saw one

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 11 месяцев назад +14

    I will say that maybe $35 billion is too much, it represents 17 years of Ansys revenue, not earnings. They are growing pretty fast: 8.33% but the net Income is less than $500M. This will kind of problematic numbers, normally leading to employee reduction and cost-cutting as the C-level executives try to justify the purchase. Clearly letting go of talent and cut R&D and workers' satisfaction is not going to increase the value of ANSY, but it could get the C-Lebeks bonuses. The other way around it, normally, is trying to get a monopoly and increase the prices, a lot. We need to change the legal framework to allow both the stockholders and the courts to make the C-Levels responsible for dealing with it, and force them to show that they make financial sense under penalty. $35 billion is around 41% of Synopsys' market cap.

    • @ajarivas72
      @ajarivas72 11 месяцев назад

      IA will do FEA and CFD in seconds without any calculations.

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 11 месяцев назад

      Your analysis, questioning the rationale for buying Ansys for $35B is astute.. There must be at least some semblance of a counter-argument which persuaded both the execs, as well as other financial stakeholders that claims to warrant the purchase price. I doubt that rationale would be to monopolize the product, as that surely would result in years of costly litigation, with an eventual loss.
      My WAG (Wild Ass Guess) is that Ansys will continue, but that the engineers may also have an ambitious 'skunkworks' project for components that uniquely serve the chip industry. For example,
      #1) With sizes shrinking to a couple nanometers and smaller, there may be quantum effects that are yet to be modeled.
      #2) IBM and others have begun experimenting with using light (nanometer sized LEDs and photosensors in a 3d matrix to fan-out
      signals. So, perhaps the package could emulate physics inclusive of optics, which at that speed and scale are nonlinear.
      #3) I've read of advantages to pulsing fluids instead of continuous flow (e.g. heartbeat). That may be applicable at nano scale.
      #4) I once did a little work on MEMS. While Ansys can already simulate MEMS, including multi-physics, such as electrical input/output
      of piezoelectric materials, there may be much more to this, especially at nanoscale.
      I may be overly optimistic, but my WAG is that there's some futuristic prospect to warrant such a huge gamble, something better than just upping the price for the product's use, or monopolizing it.

    • @mx2000
      @mx2000 11 месяцев назад

      The lever isn’t cost here. I predict that they will jack up the cost licenses massively. Ansys is already so entrenched in many design processes, companies will pay up.

  • @tkzsfen
    @tkzsfen 11 месяцев назад +3

    As if Ansys is the only company in the field CFD. I think that they were searching for other options and this boosted the price for buying Ansys, because the others were not for sale.

  • @AmandaHuggenkiss
    @AmandaHuggenkiss 11 месяцев назад +4

    🎵You say soulder, I say sodder; let’s call the whole thing off! 🎵

  • @starman7906
    @starman7906 11 месяцев назад +5

    As a CAE engineer, I would argue that your perspective may be biased. The semiconductor industry is relatively small compared to the billions these companies earn by charging hundreds of thousands in licensing fees each year from universities and R&D labs.
    ANSYS, the world leader in CAE, has changed ownership multiple times and has acquired numerous CAE companies to gain access to their solvers, such as Fluent and ICEM for CFD, and LS-DYNA for automotive crash analysis. Now, they are introducing ADINA, which uses the same technology as LS-DYNA, potentially threatening its existence.
    Moreover, ANSYS faces stiff competition from Dassault's Abaqus, Altair, MSC, and COMSOL. Interestingly, in the semiconductor and laser R&D sectors, COMSOL is widely used, while ANSYS is predominantly used in mechanical systems and HVAC.

    • @binojgeorge8079
      @binojgeorge8079 11 месяцев назад +1

      Did you forget Simcenter Star CCM+ The industry standard

    • @meneldal
      @meneldal 11 месяцев назад

      I don't think Synopsys must be doing too bad with revenue when half the projects I've been in have talks of adding a couple hundreds of licenses of VCS mid project to keep up with the regression eating up all of them.

  • @bug5654
    @bug5654 11 месяцев назад +1

    "The poor hornet."
    Ok, now you lost me.

  • @jamesocker5235
    @jamesocker5235 11 месяцев назад +1

    Micron had kgd (known good die)process where we would take good die and place in temp package and do full burn in testing, then removed the die from package and sold it for early ceramic packaged MCM, multi chip modules. Good money in KGD back then.

  • @wtfyman
    @wtfyman 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ansys, whilst powerful, reminds me of using a piece of software from 2 decades ago. They acquired lots of companies and simply bolted it all together, and unfrotunately the user experience reflects this. I wish it had a UI/UX like COMSOL. Unfortuantely for COMSOL it falls over when trying to do anythign remotely complex.
    As a Mech E with lots of experience in this field, it was nice to watch a video on something closer to home!

    • @samfedorka5629
      @samfedorka5629 11 месяцев назад +1

      As an EE who is just starting to use COMSOL, I wish their UI were more intuitive, all the options for your solution are buried 5 layers deep. I agree that Ansys' bolting stuff together isn't great either: taking a mechanical simulation and then doing an RF simulation on it can get annoying. But I found that using a single tool from them wasn't too bad to set up and do optometric sweeps.

    • @paulblair898
      @paulblair898 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think the caveat with comsol is that it is so flexible it lets you setup simulation in inefficient ways that don't lend themselves to complex problems; More planning is required when setting up boundary conditions and even solving with comsol over ansys, but on the flip side comsol can simulate things ansys can't.

    • @asdzt123
      @asdzt123 11 месяцев назад

      Without having used abaqus a lot the impression I get is they have stuck to their core product and refined it.
      Whereas ansys has been shopping companies around like crazy to have a piece of software for every application without any intention to refine and perfect anything (for example I fear for LS-Dyna development)

  • @beehard44
    @beehard44 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ansys is likely up there close to the ranks of ASML, some company not in the common man's consciousness but responsible for a huge portion of everything we have and enjoy today. It's stupid powerful and absolutely essential for some black magic engineering (e.g. RF)

    • @asdzt123
      @asdzt123 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ansys has to face stiffer competition than ASML. They don't have any revolutionary technology unknown to anyone else. They have a history of buying all kind of businesses in the simulation world and integrating them into their portfolio, whereas their competitors usually stay with their core product/business. So ansys has very few if any big competitors with such a range of simulation products but there are plenty within each simulation niche (mechanical, CFD, electromagnetics...)

  • @bend3842
    @bend3842 11 месяцев назад

    Let's not forget tha SNPS sells tools and services ( in my experience expensive rates but down to business consultants, which is rare enough to point out )
    Ansys is an opportunity to expend their business on both front and get to merge the contact list from sales.
    Also a way to not be behind Siemens that has a whole lot of tools in both physical simulation and EDA after the mentor acquisition.
    Probably one of the most impactful merge in EE field in ages.

  • @CalgarGTX
    @CalgarGTX 11 месяцев назад +1

    we are gonna need solid copper vertical fins going through the whole 3D chip

  • @pauldzim
    @pauldzim 11 месяцев назад

    I used to work for Synopsys about 10 years ago, never imagined they would have $35 billion dollars lying around to make this kind of acquisition. Wow!

  • @ChiefBridgeFuser
    @ChiefBridgeFuser 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was just down at the location where the Astronuclear lab was, Large PA. Company there does EMC testing, among other things.

  • @ronaryel6445
    @ronaryel6445 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice video and great research. By the way, Euler is pronounced Oiler.

  • @rtrc7976
    @rtrc7976 9 месяцев назад

    Some good points mentioned in the video but the main reason that enabled Synopsys to buy ANSYS for such a huge amount is the stock price of SNPS. The semiconductor industry has hit the peak and that can be seen in the growth of market cap of both SNPS and Cadence. The end users of the tools created by SNPS and CDNS also use CAE tools to do system level simulations like electronics cooling, aerothermal analysis of automotives and many more. So, both CDNS and SNPS saw this as an opportunity to use their stock price advantage to buy CAE companies. Infact CDNS approached ANSYS for acquisition which ANSYS then used as a bargaining chip to go to SNPS and get higher bid. It all worked out well for ANSYS in the end but I guess we'll see the effect of that huge price tag in the form of layoffs and license cost increases over the next year or two.

  • @designedbyheinz.ginkulmwes2948
    @designedbyheinz.ginkulmwes2948 9 месяцев назад

    If not the most powerful engineering skill that can be leveraged through Ansys [Workbench] is the coupling of multiple physics analysis tools. For example: Electromagnetics, Mechanics and Fluid mechanics being coupled in a direct fluid structure magnetism coupling is huge! Ofc one has to get the time steps right, have equally good knowledge of alle the tools and physics behind it & still have the vision for the design. But I think coupling + design automation to a certain point alone with the models and tools we have atm will increase the performance of computer chips a lot in the next years. What a time to be alife!

  • @brunosardine1
    @brunosardine1 11 месяцев назад +3

    i dont think ive ever seen someone sympathize with the hornet over bees before

  • @treygraves8588
    @treygraves8588 11 месяцев назад

    As someone in the industry, I have always heard via pronounced ‘vee uh’, not ‘vy uh’ . Very good synopsis. Thanks

  • @physiqueDrummond
    @physiqueDrummond 11 месяцев назад +3

    No mention of the Navier-Stokes existence and smoothness problem and its associated US$1 million prize? 🙂

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 11 месяцев назад +2

      The entire point of CFD is engineers giving up on that problem and resorting to numerical integration

    • @asdzt123
      @asdzt123 11 месяцев назад

      @@dsdy1205 More like the mathematicians. The engineers need to solve problems in the real world and they use whatever they can to get results.

  • @newbie8051
    @newbie8051 11 месяцев назад

    Ansys became a sponsor for the CAD club in our university a week ago
    and Damn, I see Ansys everywhere in my feed nowadays

  • @Doom2pro
    @Doom2pro 11 месяцев назад +1

    Waiting for a fab to create silicon-copper-water heat pipes / vapor chambers to stuff in between layers to remove heat.

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo 11 месяцев назад

    I think the best way to do this is to combine photonics with electronics with the electronic layer on top and photonic feed mechanisms around the outside. Photonics while very sensitive in individual wavelengths to structural deformation is a problem, the interactions are exactly predictable based on temperature and so can be adapted to with a broader band signal. Then you get no heat produced by the underlying compute layer and all the heat readily offloaded in the electronic layer which serves as the I/O and memory. You can stack the photonics layers, well you have to at this point. Getting photonics small enough is the challenge and progress is being made.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 11 месяцев назад

    One of my favorite advancements is the advancements of software that utilizes our best hardware to run very complex simulations. It's such a beneficial way to visualize and improve many different systems and aspects in a system. It's only limited to how accurate we can be with our measurements. Hense why I think we might be seeing the crisis in cosmology? Maybe we just don't have a good enough grasp on the immense scales throughout our universe and the way all of those immense scales interact with each other in the environment of space. Such as galactic filaments, entire galaxies, black holes, the list goes on and on. There's so many factors playing a part of very complex systems even in nebulas and so it only seems reasonable that we might not have a accurate enough grasp on these measurements to get accurate enough simulations when they do simulations of behaviors through out the universe.. Just a random thought I had

  • @SF-fb6lv
    @SF-fb6lv 11 месяцев назад

    6:01 Leonard's last name is pronounced like 'oiler'; the Houston Oilers were named in honor of his work.

  • @ErikS-
    @ErikS- 11 месяцев назад +4

    I used them both in my early engineering days - 2001. I saw license prices and was shocked.
    I personally hope though we will have a credible open source alternative in the future! With the fast progress in particle simulation for e.g. games, I think that should be possible.

    • @asdzt123
      @asdzt123 11 месяцев назад

      Niche applications and a lot of man-hours to develop. I used salome-meca and it was a pain in the ass. Good if you want to use it for your PhD, but not for consulting/productivity/quick turnaround.
      Even when talking about parametric 3D CAD there are very few open source alternatives.
      In CFD there is open-foam, which is very powerful but it demands a lot from the user.

  • @thefatmoop
    @thefatmoop 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was looking into using ansys for some software development. Sounded great until they wanted 45k$/year per license and were new to that industry :P At that price we developed our own software.

  • @dedpossum66
    @dedpossum66 11 месяцев назад +3

    At 6:08, Euler is pronounced “oiler” no “yueler”

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 11 месяцев назад +3

      I’m glad he didn’t say Bueller ;)

  • @ilijapjescic5102
    @ilijapjescic5102 11 месяцев назад +1

    The simulation software is of questionable use, since thermodynamics relies on a significant statistical sample. Once you are down to micrometer size the laws of thermodynamics become "weird" and non-intuitive. I am not convinced that this , simulation needs, is the reason to buy ANSYS. But definitely a good purchase!

  • @DMSparky
    @DMSparky 11 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone support this creator! That way we can get more awesome videos like this one!

  • @bubaks2
    @bubaks2 11 месяцев назад

    Would live to see a video on the history of these companies. How they grew, and the people behind the scenes.

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans 11 месяцев назад +1

    Makes you wonder if a new design could put a big old heat sink on BOTH sides of the CPUs ? A bit of a 'packaging' design change for the motherboard, an edge connnected 'Hole' in the board, with access to both sides of the chip to the Heat Sinks, fans, and fluids. Most amazing to me isn't the huge chips but the advancements in Low power processing. Less power, less heat. Redesigning chips to provide maximum computation with minimal heat would allow for more design options. Maybe even sell CPUs as a 'Block' instead of chip.

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 11 месяцев назад

      Right. Exposing top and bottom of chips to heat transfer has been done before, I've seen it most often for power components. Processors have a bit of an issue in that they need hundreds/thousands of pins, so the package size needs to increase a lot to push all of them to the perimeter, it can also hurt latency in some scenarios. Under a processor is also a great place for filtering capacitors, you needs to push those out too.
      Fortunately, most thermal constrained processors use the pins and bga balls as a heat sink - not all of them carry data lines, and the ones that carry power are split into many pins that are distributed across the package. Some have done it badly - see failure of bga graphics chips in laptops and gaming consoles around the 2010s. The thermal design for these has improved, some use gold plated vias between bga balls (like seen in the video 10:22) and active cooling with thin vapour chambers in mobile phones. If you can get the heat away fast enough, you can conduct trough the board sufficiently without resorting to more exotic packaging.

  • @hugoboyce9648
    @hugoboyce9648 11 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if we can draw any parallels with Renesas buying Altium

  • @jamesocker5235
    @jamesocker5235 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fea is used today to value engineer the newer cars so all value rests with manufacturer and the customer gets the shaft.

  • @lexzbuddy
    @lexzbuddy 11 месяцев назад +11

    Ansys, 10K per license. Most of the studies done on Ansys are a huge waste of time and little more than a colour show. Sorry but after 35+ years as an engineer I really have little time for FEA like Ansys. It's a handy aid but really not worth the time & effort. 35 billion, wow, well done!

    • @adityakulkarni4549
      @adityakulkarni4549 11 месяцев назад

      Can you elaborate?

    • @alexandershendi7428
      @alexandershendi7428 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@adityakulkarni4549He probably means that no FEA program, no matter how sophisticated, can be a substitute for thinking and properly understanding the problem. While that's true, I (IMHO) think he's a little bit too harsh. With today's computing power you can solve amazing problems.

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 11 месяцев назад

      @@alexandershendi7428 Simulations produce designs that can still fail in the real world. There's no substitute for proper testing and validation. Simulations only help when you know very little about the problems, or starting designs from scratch - which is almost never for an experienced engineer.

    • @alexandershendi7428
      @alexandershendi7428 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaulSpades I wholeheartedly agree that validation and testing are always necessary. However simulations can help to narrow the design space. Otherwise you are stuck in a build->test->scrap->design cycle.

    • @asdzt123
      @asdzt123 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well it depends on the industry. It's not the same to design gym equipment than nuclear reactors.

  • @lord_of_love_and_thunder
    @lord_of_love_and_thunder 11 месяцев назад +6

    I am sorry but your description of FEA is quite far off the mark. Discretization (breaking up a domain into smaller units) has nothing to do with prediction being easier on the smaller units. In fact predictions even in extremely small units near corners for example, can be much harder than larger units in the middle of a domain. Discretization in FEA is necessitated by the nature of function approximation, namely piecewise polynomials. These piecewise polynomials are non-zero only over a small region, hence small geometrical units are a natural corollary. Where prediction is easy or difficult depends on the underlying physics, the geometry of the domain and the suitability of the functions we have choosen to approximate the solution.

  • @taiwanluthiers
    @taiwanluthiers 11 месяцев назад

    Someone asked me to learn about FEA saying there's a lot of jobs for this, but without an engineering degree, and at my age it would be a waste of time to get one, it's pointless. I haven't really got a clue how FEA works.

  • @Helyanweh
    @Helyanweh 11 месяцев назад

    Nah, multi-chip packages will also see their way into smartphones. They're packaging the RAM into the SoC package already, which some may argue already makes it a multi-chip package.

  • @Chunwei-zq1dn
    @Chunwei-zq1dn 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Jon, great video.
    I am always wondering what the differences are between Synopsys and Cadences.
    To me they seem to be doing identical things.

  • @tokolococo
    @tokolococo 11 месяцев назад

    Great vids man

  • @gdubaz
    @gdubaz 11 месяцев назад +1

    I worked for a direct competitor of ANSYS in the ‘90’s (SDRC) and the company I work for now OEMs the technology that ANSYS’ Minerva application is based on. Lot of memories in those old photos.
    There is precedent for a huge industrial company owning a CAE company - Siemens has owned NASTRAN and Dassault has owned ABACUS for a while now.
    FYI - Euler is pronounced “Oiler”, solder is “sodder” . . . but you nailed von Neumann 😊

  • @stevengill1736
    @stevengill1736 2 месяца назад

    Totally amazing! Talk about a formula with multiple variables...am I mistaken, or would this benefit from machine learning, eg LLMs? (just as I wrote this, Jon mentioned it)
    Synopsis, wow, I'm impressed. Same thing's happening with molecular design in pharmaceutical development, and all sorts of other material designing fields.....thanks Jon, I missed this one when it came out....

  • @g00dgh0st
    @g00dgh0st 11 месяцев назад +1

    love these shorter videos.

  • @robertwen2444
    @robertwen2444 9 месяцев назад

    Great video! When you mentioned that 3DIC is unlikely to be implemented in smartphones, is it due to thermal issues? Because I thought stacking them can further miniaturize the whole system and thats why a lot of wearable/portable devices are looking at SiP. Thank you!

  • @costr89
    @costr89 11 месяцев назад

    literally no one:
    asianometry: poor hornet

  • @bikalimark
    @bikalimark 11 месяцев назад +1

    11:12 the part that you came for

  • @raylopez99
    @raylopez99 11 месяцев назад +1

    "Why Synopsys Bought Ansys (For $35 Billion)" - because they are using Synopsys stock like cash to buy Ansys and the stock market is at all time highs? Just a thought.

  • @bluesquare23
    @bluesquare23 11 месяцев назад +1

    Risc architecture is gonna change everything!

    •  11 месяцев назад

      Synopsys also bought Imperas, probably for their RISC-V stuff.

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 11 месяцев назад

      There, there. It did. In the '90s.

  • @SosaKinkos
    @SosaKinkos 11 месяцев назад

    I firmly believe after seeing sora this is only a few years away from being worthless

  • @jackflash6377
    @jackflash6377 11 месяцев назад

    Train an LLM on all those three letter design elements and you won't need Ansys.

  •  11 месяцев назад

    Everyone talks about ANSYS but Synopsys also bought Imperas.

  • @hu-ry
    @hu-ry 11 месяцев назад +1

    this might as well be an opportunity for Dassault Systemes Electromagnetics simulations to gain some market share

  • @Pallethands
    @Pallethands 11 месяцев назад

    @6:05 references and resources go there

  • @rajumondal4283
    @rajumondal4283 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you it was semi detailed ❤