Generating SPIN on the forehand
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I really love that you've made all this available for us to watch! Much appreciated!
I am watching your videos, and this one is one of the best! Especially, I like your physical explanation about why we need to stay low at 3:14. And the advice to keep the racket down the ball really helps to make spin more
and forward
I like how you immediately stop the repetitions when you see something that needs to be changed. often times coaches just keep feeding balls which reinforces that error nad players get used to it
True...Good observation on that
@@vicbade9702 fanks
I feel like I'm on the court. Great job. Thanks Patrick🙏
I've many friends who often say me that in a tennis player is important just the strenght of the arms... I always try to explain how, contrary to how it seems, legs work is basic. Surely if a player has an excellent muscle in his(or her) arms, he(or she) is advantageous, but without the proper work of her legs she can push the ball at high level.
something I find helpful when fixing a technicality of my strokes is to play into the back fence. that way I don't focus on where the ball goes instead I focus on my stroke production.
Also when you have top spin , ball returns to you back with spin and then another thing I noticed is if you hold your racket at the very butt and loosen the wrist with momentum and have wide stance extended elbow , you can create so much power and top spin
Stroke construction you mean
@@vicbade9702 no
What does play into the back fence mean?
@@richieortiz5 Hit against the fence of the court
Mouratoglou giving free advices is a proof on how much love he has for tennis and tennis players. He and other youtube coaches are inspiring people to play better tenis and all the other bennefits that happens when you embrace an sport. Way to go coanch. Thanks a lot
Mouratoglou is a great coach. He diagnoses immediately, prescribes the fix, and teaches in such a way that his students understand and apply. Fun to watch.
Could you please post a video how to handle low pace , close to the net ball (drop shot)?
The hand passing first is a great tip. Pushing forward tends to make us open up too soon. The trick is to push forward without opening up too soon. They teach the same in baseball hitting, where they teach you not to open up your tront shoulder too soon.
Where do we leave the "arm lag" them?
I am learning tennis but I also play golf and opening up the left shoulder too soon is a disaster. When I do it in tennis is a disaster as well
Feels like watching a Tennis doctor fixing some issues for his patients. Like: "Hello Dr. Mouratoglou, I have some issue with my forehand. Please can you fix it."
I can understand that staying low helps you take the balls from below, but if you watch the professional players, the barely bend their knees and you will note that when they are practicing, they crush the balls from baseline in standing position with high margin of error
The insight on this channel is incredible. Thanks very much for giving us a window to this level of coaching.
Excellent I look forward to applying these tips tonight
Great one again. staying low through the shot helps to generate topspin for real. Thx
Great video instructional video. Thank you for posting these tips.
damn she’s good. thought she was coco gauff for a second there
Likewise 😊😊😉
She looks nothing like coco but aight
She has a major hitch on her forehand that needs to be fixed!
subscribed! Your videos have been soooo helpful, more than the tennis lessons I've paid for. I wish you were my coach! we need you in SF.
hi Patrick, For the spin shot, you don't press with your body weight? At the beginning you indicated that the weight of the body should be applied to the ball, perhaps when the spin is applied it is no longer done... thanks
she is naturally good at tennis. soaks his advise immediatly
Very very insightful Mr Mouratoglou! Your tips are so good.
What strikes me however is that tennis coaches often refer to topspin as 'spin'. But there are of course more kinds of spin: sidespin and underspin aka slice. Now people may wonder what spin you mean by just reading the video title.
Patrick, are you currently giving lessons at Florida Atlantic University in Boca?
@Patrick Mouratoglou Do you suggest having the racket face neutral or slightly closed on the forehand at the contact point?
Keep it up posting these great videos!
Another great lesson 👍👍👍
Super good lesson merci bcp
Great insight coach Patrick, you are a star coach 💪💪💪
Amazing content, thanks a lot for this videos.
Patrick again teasing us in these tight shorts which highlight his fascinating but cheeks
Amazing lesson for improving top spin just by taking the ball under and driving it
In additional, stay lower and then....
Thankyou so very much. You are a Excellent Coach and person sharing your gift of teaching
I sharing with all the kids I know that play
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Thank you so much!
🔥🔥🔥 thank you for sharing this
Nice tips for more topspin for forehand no nonsense 👍 👏
Hello Mr Mouratoglou, I have a question, when you teaching loose up the the wrist and the hand, If do that by brash the ball so que hit tup spring, the question is, slap the ball with loose hand OR brash the ball up and thats it? Thanks
this is me, amazing, I'm standing way too high on contact and not pushing body through the ball - I more transfer weight from side to side or lean back
Where’s my “topspin Pro” for that exercise at home when I have no EXPENSIVE coach feeder ?
my dad thinks he is as good as Patrick 😆
She's so good and confident in her movemenet! That really inspires me!
You want her to drop the racquet at the end of her stroke preparation and spin more as a result. However, she soon falls back into her automatisms. See 11:00 and beyond
Very good demonstration. I’m wondering how to move fast while my body stay low
THANHYU, I like your lesson very much.
Forehand top spin is easy. What about backhand?!
Patrick is great btw
Thank you for the drill on being close to the net and working on spin , I personally don't have a problem on offenseive forehand or backhand but I wanna work more on the spin on a defensive shot
Wait, did he edit aka remove that segment in this video in the beginning saying there’s some issues with her staying low? Interesting 🧐
Perfect coaching more power
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Great, Push, Good Job, Oooh !!! - l went hate it.
very good ..many thanks
do a vid on increasing racquet head speed
“The hand passes, then the body follows “
Nice job sir
The best coach ever
Is it 30€ an hour ?
Beast!
Thanks a lot!
Coco Gauff
Zaire Clark
At long last I've come up with my own revolutionary forehand, which is quite a breakthrough in my tennis career. Of course, I still have to prove that my forehand is as effective as powerful vis-a-vis many opponents. But I take pride in my creativity. I'm a rec player though.
Great video!
Superb
Hi Patrick. I am an older club player who plays with a continental grip. Can I create top spin with a continental grip? How?
The grip is unrelated to spin; spin is entirely related to face angle and swing path. If you play with a semi-western/western grip the face is closed with the same swing as you would do with a continental grip. This why the semi-western forehand is done with the crooked elbow close to the torso and the ball is hit “down”, high off the bounce (the half-volley is very difficult for the western grip player). Also note the western grip forehand topspin clears the net with a high arc. The continental topspin forehand is more a flat arc, although it still has tremendous spin. The advantage of the high bounce topspin is that it is more difficult for,the receiving player to time the swing.
@@Osnosis I have no clue what you just said in all thar explanation. I will ask someone else to translate.
@@janetburke7837 The short answer to your question is yes. The how is explained in my original answer. The angle of the racquet face RELATIVE to the flight of the incoming ball is what creates spin. The larger question is contact point and whether the spin drives the ball down before it crosses the net, or after. If you watch Nadal (the biggest spin producer of western grip players) you will notice the ball clears the net quite high. This isn't possible with a continental grip, but you can generate a flat shot with topspin by hit the ball at the height of its incoming post-bounce trajectory. Hope that helps.
@@Osnosis Thanks so much. 😆
Love it!
Really good!
Thanks.
Nadal tennis academy teaches nadal forehand, and nadal backhand is different also from what mouratoglou teaches. Can anyone see the difference? Nadal groundstrokes have more spin..
Can you figure out the difference in technique? I figured it out. Happy researching
spit it out
Hand it over
The Spanish way of tennis is to clear the next by a couple of feet and hitting with a lot of spin on the ground strokes. They also pride themselves on superior fitness and excellent footwork. Don't believe me look at all the Spaniards on the ATP Tour they all have excellent movement. The Nadal tennis academy doesn't teach to hit his same exact forehand and backhand however they do teach the Spanish style of tennis which is different than what's taught in the USA and other parts of the world. Nadal's academy as well as Jc Ferrero academy teach the modern game just like most academies around the world.
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Sir mostly player use top spin/ flat ?? Consistency top spin or flat ?? who is more important top spin or flat short forhand/backhand use in matches matches Sir ???
Ok so flat isn’t really that great. Topspin is much better, but it still has to be a bit flat. Watch other players from the back side
If you look at the world's greatest players particularly on the ATP tour, you see all the modern forehands hit with topspin to have margin for error when there hitting the ball hard. If you don't believe me watch any RUclips video of a court level view and you will see how much pop and spin, they get on the ball. If they didn't have any topspin, then the balls would be flat with no margin for error, however if the incoming shot presents itself to be hit flat then they will flatten the shot out a lil more then they usually do. Medvedev has very flat shots on both wings and is most likely the only player in the top fifty if not top one hundred that hits his ground strokes flat. If you look at Alcaraz and even Nadal they both hit with a lot of spin obviously Nadal has more spin then Alcaraz, but both of their shots are very safe, and you will also notice the next clearance is a couple of feet as well for added safety on the shot. This is the Spanish way tennis is taught in Spain.
@@bballah9969 "however if the incoming shot presents itself to be hit flat then they will flatten the shot out a lil more then they usually do." Why? Is it because it is more difficult to impart topspin on an incoming flat ball vs an incoming tops in ball?
What about using the wrist action to create more top spin?
The wrist is a natural byproduct of the kinetic chain when hitting the ball it's not forced it comes naturally as you come out of the slot on the forehand. Look up Rick Macci on here and watch his videos on the forehand very fundamentally sound and correct he talks about using the ground, as power is created from the ground up by the kinetic chain for spin and pop on the ground strokes. If you look at every single top professional they all use the kinetic chain on there ground strokes using a semi or open stance on the forehand along with a nice shoulder turn-uni turn.
The stay low advice is questionable. If you look at Zverev, Nadal, Carlos…, they stay low only at loading phase then push off ground and hit the ball, their head is higher than at the loading phase. It’s the same as in baseball, batter first bend the knees but at contact, they are no longer in the bending position. Unless the incoming ball is really low, if you unwind but still keep your knees bend, you’ll put a lot of stress on your knees.
I'm pretty sure "stay low" is just a cue for the exact loading you're talking about. The athlete in the video pushes off after loading low on almost every shot, and he doesn't correct it, and in fact routinely calls those shots "perfect."
@@johnnyblackrants7625 when she was about to hit, he kept saying stay low stay low, her head level ended up not moving higher. If you watch his previous video with this student, he instructed her to keep the head leveled through out the shot. And didn’t he ask her to push him with knee bend vs stand tall and told her to keep knee bend so she can deliver more power? The analogy of pushing someone and striking a ball is just wrong.
I agree with you (about the "staying low on legs" fact) . Another detail that puzzles me : when hitting the ball, the right shoulder stays completely behind, and the only arm moves forward... If you look at good top spin forehand players, the right hand (and entire right arm) pulls forward the right shoulder. That (good) young girl keeps her shoulders line absolutely parallel to the net, from the beginning of the shot to the end! (though she does better playing crosscourt shots)
@@bournejason66
Sorry my man the only one here that is wrong is you lol! Who is going to know more you or him? This guy is an awesome player and coach and is well respected around the world his track record speaks for himself! The analogy of pushing someone and striking a ball is to show if you push someone when you're standing up erect you're not getting that power easily and efficiently compared as to when your low and your using your legs to create power from the ground up, this is called the kinetic chain look it up. All top touring pros use the kinetic chain on the ground strokes in order to get more pop and spin on the ball. This is the modern way of tennis played today this style never existed in the seventies or eighties as the grips and stance were different and players were taught to finish the stroke over the shoulder. This simply does not exist any more lol!
If you look at a pro boxer is hitting you with an upper cut or a hook standing straight up? Of course not there knees are bent and there center of gravity is low there is a reason for this in order to move efficiently and to hit with massive power.
B Ballah just draw a line of Nadal or Alcaraz’s head when they are in loading phase, then draw another line of their head at contact, you’ll see the contact line is higher than at loading. Don’t believe me or Patrick, watch it yourself
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'Stay low' ??
Nonsense coaching - worst channel for tennis - official.
im not a tennis expert but i can se this girls forehand sucks. no power
There is a pause in the backswing, needs more fluidity. Need to see it under pressure.
Not taking into consideration that she holds the racket in the middle of the grip, way less leverage than normal grip.
@@bugynites09
Exactly the pause is a hitch on her forehand which will not allow her to get maximum pop and spin on her shots.
Patrick needs to include a description with the video. Who is this girl?
It looks like she attends and possibly plays for Florida Atlantic University and has booked a private lesson with Patrick.
Zaire Clarke
Coach my whole arm is in pain especially when I hit my forehand. Mostly around above the elbow and right under the shoulder in the muscle… and also on top of the wrist… I think it has to do with the way I hit my forehand. I really feel the tension and everything just feels forced when I hit, and PAINFUL. Please assist on how to hit a forehand and at that with ease and spin and up to where should I load my racket before I hit the forehand and the wrist work and the body (hip) as well.🥲🥲🥲