What if Earth was a Moon of Jupiter?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2017
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In this video, we will talk about Earth being a moon of Jupiter.
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"South America has been completely eliminated"
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What would Earth be like if it was a moon of Jupiter AND Jupiter & moons (including Earth) were at Earth's orbit?
what if... the moon had a moon?
Galaxion earth would capture it
It does
@66760 they're lil metal boxes from earth
Galaxion The moon is a moon…
It is impossible
I think the Moon is too close to Earth to have its own moons. Moons around our Moon would either crash on the Moon or be captured by Earth. I think that's a general problem with moons. They would need to orbit their planet real far, or be real massive, to keep their own moons.
That would be an interesting project to see where the Moon would have to be, to have a moon!
Try to simulate this scenario:
1. The Sun will be class M star.
2. Jupiter sized planet orbits it in Goldilocks zone
3. Place a few earth sized planet as moons over this Jupiter- all of them with locked rotation.
This scenario would overcome problem of terrestrial planet tidally locked to close class M star. Terrestrial planet(moon) will be tidally locked to gas planet.
Peter Švančárek So many damn habitable planets
The gas giants would lose its mass much faster and the moons would be left orbiting the Sun, or themselves and the Sun.
It sounds like a proof of concept on how to negate tidal lock that would otherwise occur in direct orbit around an MxV star. Would Earth have a stable orbit around said gas giant?
wow
Jupiter in goldilock zone is very interesting scenario. A gas giant with probably many habitable moons!
We would be fucked.
Alex D 2016 More like wouldn't exist to be fucked.
thesupersonicstig Exactly.
Alex D 2016 lol
Alex D 2016 WAIT UNTIL YOU FIND OUT THST YOU CANNOT DEBUNK THE FLAT EARTH THEORY.
Toxic Lucidity What the fuck ?
If earth was a moon of Jupiter, it would host no life.
You can actually place the jupiter closer to the sun like 1-1,5 AU to get ideal temperature.
6:59 it was io that hit into earth lol
You can see it coming at earth at 6:45
Rom Flo K
Im pretty sure Earth chased Io down.
Canabro no I think it was io that chased down earth but earth could of went a little toward io. maybe your right
Rom Flo
Be interesting to put Earth where Mars is with our Moon orbiting the Earth and really see if that is a habitable zone or whether it is too far from the Sun.
It’s called the Goldilocks Zone and its in fact within its boundaries right now and so is Venus yet we have yet to see life on either planet
what if Jupiter(with all it's moons)where at the point where earth is and earth orbit Jupiter
It would turn into a big ball of lava. Just imagine the incredible tidal energy combined with already existing incredible solar energy...
Well that and the gas giants tend to produce a lot of radiation , it wouldn't be good
Jupiter has more gravity than Earth so, Earth will start orbiting Jupiter
I like that idea. Put Jupiter at Earth's distance, then put Earth into Jupiter orbit, but make it a high orbit or inclination to reduce the number of eclipses from happening on every orbit (for climate purposes). Pull Earth's moon in so it continues to orbit Earth.
Wouldn't that be Pandora (Avatar)
I've been waiting forever for this episode! Thanks!
Would you do one where Jupiter is where the Earth is now and then find a habitable zone for Earth within Jupiter's orbit?
Between the added heat from the tidal heating and the significant energy input from Jupitershine assuming Jupiter was orbiting the Sun where the Earth is now and Earth at the same 330,000 km distance from Jupiter as in this video Jupiter would illuminate the Earth at ~1.25% the level that Sol itself does with reflected light. Not sure if US2 takes that into account though and while that might not sound like much it's still north of 2 Petawatts or to put that into perspective the equivalent of a 500 kiloton nuclear weapon per second. Or put another way enough energy every second to cover humanity's current energy demands (total primary energy demand that is) for around 3-4 millennia.
So yeah kinda makes a difference add to that the fact that the tidal heating was peaking at about double that amount again and yeah I think would need to move Jupiter a few million km further out to stop Earth from experiencing global warming quite a bit faster and more drastic than currently assumed. On the upside totally gotta get me some geothermal energy stocks if this happens.
What if Earth was positioned at the edge of Jupiter's hill sphere?
True that would reduce both of those effects pretty significantly then again also come to thing of it I forgot to take into account the fact that Jupiter would eclipse the Sun for hours each orbit too so it might balance out that way.
I imagine that it would be best to orbit Jupiter's poles instead of the equator, otherwise we'd sweep through the radiation belt.
Barnard Rabenold I don't know if earth would be habitable if Jupiter orbited in earth's orbit and earth orbited Jupiter because we would get tremendous tidal forces from Jupiter in addition to the heat from the sun. However, if Jupiter orbited a little further from the sun than earth does (say in a mars orbit) theoretically there would be a sweet spot where the reduction in heat from the sun is exactly offset by heat from increased tidal forces. That would be interesting to see.
It would make us like, Pandora from Avatar...?
And.. Uh, i think I ran out of idea
I’m curious to see how Venus would fare with its much thicker atmosphere.
This was uploaded on my birthday :) Nice vid Anton!
this video really shocked me xD really well done keep up the good work! :D
You should remember Anton that volcanic eruptions are causing drops of temperature, because volcanic ashes are lowering the temperature and increasing albedo
in this case i think "earth" would be a lot like saturns moon Enceladus being covered in ice with an underground ocean
Dustin M enceladus has way more water than earth does
Earth wouldn’t have an Underground Ocean. Earth has very little water compared to Enceladus.
It was Africa, not South America :P
Good riddance!
Finally someone that noticed that
it was s america :D
I think he chickened out from fear of being called racist. It wasn't politically correct. LOL
Video Idea: What if Earth and Mars were in a binary system?
Mars would be more like a moon of Earth, a very big moon. Earth and Venus would be a more equal binary system since they are almost the exact same size and mass.
7:30 "that was pretty cool"
*Half of the earth exploded*
I sense a lack of empathy here...
I prefer Saturn that way we'd have a nice view of it's rings
lol true but it would be way colder than jupiter
Rom Flo I question about it, I know
Rom Flo what the video said about what would happen around Jupiter, same thing will possibly happen around Saturn as well.
Charles 7 lol only if Jupiter had rings like Saturn
Rom Flo it kinda does however it's hard to tell with the naked eye.
The look of the sky would be different too... during the day you'd see the dark backside of jupiter and you would also have the day dark for a few hours. In the night the sky would show the light side of jupiter... Very weird to imagine that xD
jupiter looks like 144p in 2k space
Have Neptune as its only moon for a demonstration of the newest exomoon they think they found. :)
Very good! A scenario I would like to see explored is what would Earth be like if it didn't have a tilted axes.
What if all moons orbited earth
your dream came true lucky young one
Cool! Thanks for posting.
''We don't know how it happened, but It happened'' Lmao
I don't mind a supposed-3 minute video becoming over 10 mins if it's Anton
Venus as a moon of jupiter!!!
ChristopherPalacios8 A very good question.I suppose that it still would be at least not colder than Earth or even a little bit warmer.
Fantastic, amazing software, great presentation.
I wonder about eclipses taken place on Earth, especially from Jupiter!! Pitch Black??😮😮
maybe :)
+rmatt24 Indeed there would be no direct solar illumination at all not even the corona, that said it may not actually be completely pitch black depending where the other moons are they would all be crescents if any illuminated ones were visible at the time but depending how close they were in their orbit several of the larger ones could reflect quite a bit of light despite the lower solar intensity out there. Especially when you bare in mind our moon is really quite dark compared to such as Europa.
Jupiter itself would be gargantuan in the sky some 48 times the diameter of the moon or about 2,300 times the visual size while the Sun would be 5 times smaller in diameter or around 25 times smaller in area. Making it some 240 times smaller in diameter than Jupiter or 57,600 times smaller in area.
That said even if the Earth were tidally locked to Jupiter the fact that it would eclipse the Sun every day (unless Earths orbit was inclined way outside the plane of most of the orbits in the system) that doesn't mean it would be dark all the time, the Jupitershine would actually be really bright even with the sun being 25 times dimmer, the 2300 times larger size in the sky would still make it about 90 times as bright as the full moon where we are now. Ok sure that would still be more than 20,000 times dimmer than the noon Sun here on current Earth but it's still not dark you could easily walk around with just the Jupitershine and see where you were going and stuff not that you would perhaps want to you know with the whole it's goddamn freezing out there part but heh...
Good post.
So the term would be called the Jovian Eclipse? 😮
rmatt24 dark matter
This didn’t look at sanario of the expanding sun in the future, where you would want to change the orbit of the earth to prevent it from being absorbed by the sun. That’s where a Jupiter orbit makes sense as at that time the core of earth might not work as well as it used too, and Jupiter’s magnetosphere would act as a shield for the expanding star.
Jupiter actually radiates more energy than it receives from the sun
I have now watched 7 of these "what da math" videos and have yet to see any math :/
Interesting test, wonderful Anton! I was hoping tidal energy and atmosphere would have kept warmer.
What about Ganymedes or Titan or Europa at orbit closer to Sun?
THE INTRO IS AWESOME
Earth:i thought i we're a planet-
Jupiter: *cha cha real smooth*
I see those trajectory lines of the moons and planets in your simulation. But does that include the path the solar system takes through our galaxy ?
Jupiter did once orbit closer to Sun within its goldilocks zone, until Sun captured Saturn. Jupiter was attracted to Saturn and moved out, freezing Ganymede. Earth and Mars were tidally locked to Saturn which was a brown dwarf star at that time, considering Earth and Mars closely share Saturn's axial tilt.
I never thought about the fact that Multiple if not all the Galilean moons could’ve been habitable for potentially hundreds if not thousands of years. I doubt they wouldve had much time to cool off tho and then for life.
How about doing something like this except have the entire Jupiter moon system plus earth orbit where earth currently orbits! this would be awesome to see what happens!
I recall a paperback book in the 1980s whose cover showed Earth in orbit around a gas giant. So maybe a video where Jupiter is following Earth orbit, and put the Earth around Jupiter, but at an inclination, so you get some eclipses but not on every orbit. Also, pull our moon in so it sticks with us, not ripped away.
Hi Anton, what if one of jupiters moons, or even saturns moon (e.g. titan) is placed on earths position, what could be overved over longer period of time? sorry, just a random question.
Crash something into something for it to self create a entirely different character that doesn't yet exist in our Solar System.
If we lived on a moon of Jupiter, we would know more about Jupiter and its moons, and maybe even go to the moons
I'd like to suggest revisiting this scenario, but on Earth's orbit, maybe slightly away, to take tidal heating in to account. I don't know this simulation, but it most likely does not simulate crust behavior like winds blowing speeds water tides and volcano activity, those would be interesting.
you squished Io with Earth!
A World Out of Time by Larry Niven. Earth is in orbit around a super-hot Jupiter
It was up that collided with earth
i meant io not up
If Jupiter becomes a problem we can always dismantle it and use its parts to build space stations.
Mm.. can The moon still be "earths moon" while earth is a Jupiters moon🤔
Rodrigo Ballon Landa what? I am confused
saturn like the moon would orbit earth and earth would orbit jupiter. The moon woul be like a moon's moon. But idk if it's possible, the moon would be attracted by jupiter and either crash into it or become its moon like earth.
Rodrigo Ballon Landa No, cause it will get captured by jupiter.
Mok. Will be crashed by jupter
What this has taught me is that if you could magically move moons of Jupiter around a similar star to our own in the habitable zone many could be very like earth. We have a massive moon though so that's also noted.
It would be cool to have Earth and a moon of Jupiter.
Cesare Vesdani ya it would be cool
I don't think so
So cool!!
After 2 hours
*earth got destroyed be Jupiter's moons*
It would be cool, *literally*
Wow was he on coffee? Lots of energy on this one !!!!
How long would one day be? Is is possible for the Earth to not be tidally locked?
what program is this? it looks really neat!
Earth is been classified as a jovian moon. Venus is now the biggest rocky planet
if earth was a moon of Jupiter, it will be the largest moon in the solar system
6:56 Didn't you merge Earth and Io?
BTW, what about placing Earth a little closer to Jupiter to make tidal effects even bigger to the extent where Earth would be able to keep liquid water? Would it be very narrow margin in terms of Jupiter-Earth distance and (maybe) time (I mean the temperature wouldn't be sustainable for long time) ? Maybe instead of moving it closer to the Jupiter we would make its orbit more eccentric to augment the tidal forces?
Replace all the gallilean moons with the terrestrial planets in this order inner to outer: Mars, Mercury, Earth, Venus. That will recreate the size order of the jovian moons.
Where is the habitable zone around VY Canis Majoris and Beetlejuice if there is even one?
Now what if we also moved Jupiter to where Earth is now? Would we be able to be far enough from Jupiter that the tidal forces don't turn us into Io while being close enough that there wouldn't be wild temperature swings every day?
I want this program! Where can I get it?
Move the earth all the way out to orbit Jupiter and it gets cold.....Imagine that.
What if the moon was made of bluecheese and there was a purple comb at the north pole just sitting there? Yeah
This was interesting, but now I have to wonder how the moons of Jupiter would fare if they were in the goldilocks zone.
Can you do one of a hypothetical planet orbiting Vega?
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What if we had a Gas Giant a bit smaller than Jupiter in Earth's Orbit/1 AU from the Sun, and Earth and Mars were moons of Gas Giant Goldilocks?
You could place Jupiter in the Earth's present orbit, and then place the Earth as the moon, at this distance, we won't freeze, but cause of tidal effects, it will probably be much hotter
What if you moved jumpiter in the Orbit of earth and then let earth orbit jupiter, but a bit further away in its orbit?
I have a suggestion: try to bring the earth sized planets (Mars, but also Pluto) and moons (Io, Europa, Titan ...) in our solar system into earth's orbit and see what happen to them after a few million years.
What if your face was a moon of Jupiter?OOOOHHHHHHHH!!!
sir may i know what is the name of the software that you are using please
whe all this simulations are going, I wonder what time scale was used? was time accelerated? where this is indicated? is it happening in certain time in the history? can we move the simulation to any point we want?
what is the program name that u make that simulations ?
I think the greenhouse gasses would be 4x as much if we were burning more fuel to stay warm. Also I want to see the moon fly away
I would bet if it was a pretty far out orbit it would be a lot more stable in terms of collisions in terms of crashing into other celestial bodies.
What application you are using in this simulation?
What sostware u use??
what is this simulator ? where can I get this from !
Do a video about how close to jupiter would earth need to be in order to see jupiter and the sun as the same size like sun and moon are and what the effects would be.
Thank you for answer a question that I've always had on my mind. yes, really. 😉😎
I'd like to know what would happen if a gas giant like Jupiter were in the habitable zone of a star like the sun along with all of it's moons.
"Billions of years," "billions of years," "billions of years." There was no billions of years, only thousands of years.
What would happen to the atmosphere in these conditions?
Make another video with Jupiter at earths orbit and no threat from Jupiter's other moons colliding with earth. How far would earth have to orbit to eliminate most tidal forces and the radiation from Jupiter?
8:11
If Hot Pockets were made of antimatter, would they also be "hot on the inside, cold on the outside?"
Ah yes finally
There would be a enormousness tidal wave from Jupiter's gravity!
hi may i ask what program this is???
you forgot to mention that earth also gets less sun due to Jupiter being in the way a significant portion of the time
I wonder how bright nights would be with Jupiter in them?
Damn... and I was wondering how cool it would be to live on a -planet- moon orbiting Jupiter.
Perhaps if Jupiter were closer to the sun, the circumstances would be more favorable for an Earth-like moon. But wouldn't its gases evaporate from being in such close relative orbit to the Sun or would it survive as a Hot Jupiter?
I'm no expert, but something tells me Jupiter's clouds wouldn't stand up too well.
6:40 io: "Ima get youuu"
What if Jupiter, with Earth orbiting around it, was at 1AU from the Sun? Or maybe just a little bit further away to compensate for the tidal heating?
Wut happens if you grabed a planet from galaxy pegusus and combine it with the sun
Re: Asteroid and planetary bombardments in the early Solar System (including the Late Heavy Bombardment and earlier such eras): Perhaps at one point Jupiter and Saturn, the two largest bodies in the Solar System, got into 2:1 orbital resonance, because of which the other Solar System bodies were badly shaken up. If so, that may have caused Neptune and Uranus to change places, so that Uranus, which heretofore had been farthest from the Sun, took up an orbit between Saturn and everything beyond, while Neptune took up an orbit between Uranus and the Kuyper Belt objects.Could you discuss that possibility?
Where would be the "Goldilocks Zone" for this Jupiter-Earth system ? That is, *where* could we move the system so that life would have it's best chances?
Larry Niven wrote about this, "Larry Niven - A world out of time ISBN-13: 978-0345336965" Excellent Sci-Fi Story worth reading.