Totally agree. A no BS this is it, this is how it packs and this is how it works .... just bought my son his first 27 kit and sent him this video to explain it to him as Covid means I'm in France and he is in the UK and I can't show him in person. Great vid
Hi! I totally agree to your review. This system is just a joy and so fun to use. If you want even more fun and a little challenge when cooking I will recommend the Trangia 28 Mini. It's tiny and require you think twice to figure out how your meal will be a succes. Highly recommended! Happy cooking from Denmark.
THANKS FOR A FINE DEMONSTRATION OF AN ICONIC SET! Post-Viet Nam, many 'Righteous' Backpackers were rocking Trangia or Sigg equipment. I confess I opted for Coleman PeakOne gas stoves because they did not require priming in cold weather and they produced a stronger flame. In those early times, I did not see a double windscreen system like this on the trail. It is a game changer. I have ALWAYS wanted a Trangia tea kettle...but we were backpacking as a family and needed to heat or boil more water. The low and wide Trangia kettle design offers great stability...and I have seen current Bushcrafters even use them to do Ramen Noodle packs and to eat the result right from the kettle. THAT'S efficient use of equipment.
Thank you very much for your comment! I was in my mid 40s before I got into the contemporary wild camping/ bush crafting. I have been blown away with the advances in design just in the years I have been doing this. There are some designs that are timeless and will used "as is" forever!
Excellent review! Full of rock solid, straightforward, and still comprehensive information. And I too have watched a LOT of RUclips stove reviews. This one does stand out. I own many many stove systems. But when it comes to backpacking I've used the same Trangia spirit burner for nearly 30 years in both fair weather and foul. No moving parts, nothing to wear out or break. Silent operation (as opposed the "landing jet" sound of many of my other stoves). Reliable. Reasonably efficient. And a good "cooker". There's so much emphasis on "speed" these days that most stove designs have become blow torch water boilers that can't cook without scorching. I've never understood "the rush" when I'm out backpacking or camping. The whole idea is to get off the clock and slow down. The idea that I'm going to be timing my stove in the backcountry just seems silly to me. What I want is a quiet, rock-solid-reliable stove that can boil water while I pitch camp, but can also cook bacon or fry an egg without a white hot spot on the bottom of my pan. Trangia fits that bill and has never let me down.
Firebox sells a gas burner attachment for their Firebox twig stove, which also fits into the Trangia. The Trangia gas burner costs about $80, while Firebox sells their burner for $35. For alternative fuels, you can use gel fire starter if you have a small bowl that fits the lower wind screen. Trangia sells such a bowl but you can use anything you have. The gel doesn't smell as bad as solid fuel tablets.
This is the best and most informative review of the trangia 27 I have seen on RUclips. Great info on the shape of the handle. I never heard this before and very interesting to learn. I love using the 27 for cooking proper meals and getting an even distribution of heat.I also love the fact its soooo quite. Great video sir 👍
Thank you Joe! I've been using mine quite a lot lately! I want to order the equivalent version in the 25 model for when I camp with others. I LOVE Trangia's products! Old Tech Still Works! At times much better than new!
I love my trangia and all the useful trangia accessories I use along side it. I have purchased many stoves over the years, all great in their own niche ways but I always find myself packing one or other combination of my trangia sets for most of my adventures. It's size, weight and efficiency is probably not optimal and I wouldn't accept that in most of the other equipment I use but for some reason I forgive my trangia equipment for all those things, unconditional love I guess. I know it will never let me down, period. Any failure has always been down to me and my operator error, not my trangia equipment. Great video and a big thumbs up from across the pond here in England.
Thank you very much Dave! I couldn't agree more! I too have many stoves and like/love them all for different reasons. Trangia, has earn my respect and captured my heart. Should my fortunes improve I will most definitely be purchasing MANY MORE Trangia Products!!!!
Haha. Watching you disassemble your Trangia Cookset so smoothly reminded me of when we were trained to disassemble and reassemble our M-16's in US Army basic training. It would have been even more impressive if you showed everyone at the end you did it all while blindfolded.
Awesome review, best ive seen on the trangia 👌, absolutely love my 27 kit wouldnt be without it, and im a man of many stoves 🤣. ATB from across the pond 🇬🇧
Thank you VERY MUCH! I will never stop using it! I am saving up for an UBER 25, with all the accessories they make for it for overlanding car camping! I can't wait until I can purchase it!
@@boonedockery7220 sounds a plan brother, I have many gas stoves MSR, jetboil etc, but it's the functionality and durability of the trangia equipment just sets it apart, prefer my 27 over any other stove I own. Purchased the green fuel bottles after watching your video, there still way cheaper on the trangia site 👌
Best did i have seen on this item todate. I have 27 tranjia. Aluminium great bit of kit. There is an army version and stainless steel version. If youd used thoese for your fire pit instead of the alumunium bodies type. I think that would have worked for a fire pit solid fuel coke wood etc even wax firelighters.. Its very versatile kit i have a kettle not trajiaand does fit wind shield. . I also have another tranjia burner its just aluminium tin but does fit the shields. This just cost £2.00 from camping store in uk Have a good new year.
Thank You Very Much. When I have the time to do so, I love to research the history and development of the items in my kit. I always research the items before I drop the coin on them but there are few items worthy of going down "The Rabbit Hole" in order to satisfy my curiosity. I originally was going to purchase a Swiss Surplus Meta 50 but every retailer I found was sold out. Back then they were selling for $15 to $20. Now they are highly collectible and IF you can find one you'll be paying "Collector Prices".
Love my Trangia gear, you can actually cook on it vice just boil. Quick tip: buy some Bar Keepers Friend (like a very soft Comet Cleanser) to clean any discoloration or blackening on your Trangia gear. Do Not use it on the non-stick surfaces. Works very well. Thanks for the excellent and very thorough video.
good design endures time... Trangia is still the best alcohol stove & cooking system, by far. My back-up system is a Firebox twig stove, which is also a great design, very efficient and very small. Because of open-flame-burner restrictions I am considering buying the butane adapter for my Trangia, although I am a not a great fan of gas cartouches (environmental issues). If a lot of output is needed then I use my old reliable Primus or Whispy. Fuel efficiency and weight are an issue to consider, but even so the traditional Trangia system makes a lot of sense, especially since alcohol is so cheap and readily available, and that there are no moving parts that could fail, besides it is so silent (not the case with my beloved Primus). I also have a Titanium alternative, which is great, but Ti pots are poor for cooking (cooking is not like boiling). All in all, even knowing that my Trangia might not be the most "efficient" stove, I would still prefer it over any other brand/model. And besides, do you really think that a couple seconds more of boiling time would make ANY difference when you are outdoors enjoying the scenery? are you really in that a rush? c'mon... greetings from wild, wet, windy and wonderful western Patagonia
Wow, that was quite a comment! I'll simply reply with a simple "Yeah! What He Said!"..... Thank you so much for your valuable input, It's greatly appreciated!
Great Review, The gas burner is made so that in cold conditions the gas canister can be inverted so liquid fuel goes to the burner and the burner has a heating loop, I have cooked a full roast dinner using a Trangia 25 using the gas burner with a cast iron pot on top, It produced plenty of heat to cook the roast. A+ for the Trangia design as a lifetime cook set that can be passed onto the next generation, and they are virtually unbreakable for motorcycle camping.
Rob, I agree whole heartedly! I bought an adapter that will fit a standard butane canister. I'm going to try it out this weekend. It's not practical for backpacking but great for vehicle camping. Have a great day!
Thank You! I deeply appreciate that! I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes! Hopefully, others can learn a little bit from both my successes and failures.
Great review, Trangia sells a gel/solid fuel cup with lid. The most versatile & efficient cook system still going & they keep improving their product. Thank you for sharing.
As always, great content! Keep up the good work, and those who fast forward through your talk on your videos miss out on tons of great information! I enjoy your long rants! Keep them going!
I use this for a month or more at a time in the arctic every summer. You can’t really use all those mini sets for anything substantial our there. Too wet, windy, too few cooking options. The trangia is enough of a kitchen that if you know what you are doing you can bake, fry, deep fry, boil, steam or whatever else you put your mind to. It’s economical with the fuel and functions reliably, and every detail about it has been carefully thought out and then field-tested for ever. I live off a bag of rice a few onions and seafood I get spearfishing when I am out - and I want to be able to cook in a varied and creative ways and get good results.
@@boonedockery7220 Right. I usually only get to reheat whatever has been already cooked on it. I’ve had a bag of the freezedried stuff in my bag for 5 years now, as an emergency backup. I always forget about it and it never gets eaten xD
@@andygrayson7485 I guess it could be. Ive been considering something like that for a while, but I don’t have a camera, let alone a waterproof one - and there is an issue of batteries. I keep a phone charged for emergencies (aside from a garmin inreach) and weather forecasts and I can keep that running with a portable solar panel and a couple of powerbanks, but I doubt it would sustain charging a bunch of camera gear, especially if it was going in the water as well ….
Hi from a Brit expat living in Malaysia 🇲🇾. Came across your channel in my YT feed today, loved it and subscribed. Have been dying to get one of the Trangia storm cookers for a number of years now and finally bit the bullet last month, although I had to order mine from the UK as they're difficult to source locally. Unfortunately due to a series of postal strikes in the UK, what normally takes less than a week to reach me is still stuck in the colossal mail backlog over there. All the Trangia accesories I ordered online from Trangia suppliers in Taiwan arrived in 5 days! . At least I have my trusty Firebox Gen 2 to rely on when I go out on a hike in the meantime 👍. Looking forward to catching up with the backlog of your videos in the weeks ahead. Happy Holidays and all the best for the year ahead.
Hello, And welcome to the channel! First of all I apologize for the delay in my reply. I had 5 of my videos that "went NUTS" and my normal two or three comments that appear daily increased to hundreds. I have had to deal with numerous personal issues to include the death of my Mother. I have been replying to comments daily and I still have more than 1,000 to go. Hopefully you have received your Trangia storm cooker and have had numerous opportunities to use it. Your Firebox G2 is an awesome stove as well. I used my Firebox for the entire winter camping season last year. It more than proved it's worth! Thank you for your holiday wishes. For the most part it was a wonderful holiday season. I trust yours was as well. Blessings!
@@boonedockery7220 thanks for getting back to me. Sorry to learn of your loss. My condolences. My Trangia 25- 7 eventually arrived last week after a 21/2 month journey. Have tried it out at home; what an awesome bit of kit. Hope to get out this week to try it out in the field although it's been very wet this last few months as it's our rainy season....but still damn hot!. Take care and good luck catching up with your responses. Love the channel btw 👍🇲🇾
Unlike some types of camping stove, Trangia spirit burner stoves are perfectly safe to use in a domestic kitchen. This can be important if you live off-grid, or where household gas/electricity supplies can be interrupted, or where mains power is expensive.
What a great and comprehensive review, It's clear to me that you have a lot of experience using the cooking system, this gives me proper reason to trust your judgement. Thank you very much for your time and energy put into this well made video! Greetings from Sweden!
Thank You Very Much! I love the Trangia System! Eventually, I would like to purchase the other Trangia systems. An old design that will stand the test of time well into the future! I am very pleased you enjoyed the video. I know I have a lot to learn about video production.😉😀 Have a fantastic day!
As you are now probably aware, Trangia stock a small dish so that you can use hexamine tablets as an alternate heat source. Great video by the way..... Going to have to find my T25 set and use it when travelling.
I like the trangia design to hold fuel in the stove when done. However, I used to custom build Alcohol Stoves for fun and i did a lot of experimenting with several different materials and port designs. I made one that was a fierce cooker that would boil 2 cups of water in 2.5 minutes.
Great video! Thanks a million. I just picked up the Model 27 windshields and now, I am waiting for the Duossal pots and pan to get back in stock. I'm looking forward to many years of cooking with this neat little stove kit. Thanks again! You did a great job!
Thank you very much Russell! I absolutely love my 27! I would love to pick up the 25 and the mini one of these days as well. Trangia, has really set the bar on effective, quality, simple, and efficient cookware and systems. Thank you again for your comment, it is very much appreciated!!!!
Not sure if you were able to find it or not but as of today, the Duossal pots are still not in stock on the Trangia website. I did manage to find it on Amazon Japan if you can wait for the month shipping and does seem to have a ~$25 markup on the set.
For me the best Trangia are the Storm Cooker 27-21 UL/D with Gas Burner, I have the Kettle 27 Small, 0.6 L and ditch the small pan, so one large pan and a kettle. I ditched the spirit burner many years ago, it takes much too long time to cook and uses too much spirit, so gas cooks much faster and uses not much gas, so it is a much more light weight solution with the gas burner ! Highly recommended.
Many thanks for an awesome review that has information no other person has ever mentioned in watched videos. I've just ordered my 25-2 set (3-4 people/family) and intend to get the 27 for UL backpacking trips. The only problem I had was a choice between aluminium and HA-aluminium. Finally I decided full HA as I personally don't believe in non-stick coating based on my experiences with frying pans - they usually don't last very long (non-stick coating start to peel off) and food usually starts to stick anyway after some use even though am super cautious when choosing the right utensils or clean it strictly according to instructions. I have a set of decent quality 6 years old HA kitchen pans and they still work like brand new so am more of a HA fan - it's a personal research and choice. Trangia used to sell UL Duossal Cooker (two sheets of aluminium for better heat distribution and steel for durability pressed together) version but they've been replaced by UL-HA or full HA ones - slightly less weight, apparently similar durability, very good heat distribution / less hot spots, no corrosion and less maintenance than steel (a lot of pro chefs use steel although indoors). Steel requires more maintenance and some say is better for cooking or frying on fats to avoid sticking whereas HA can get away without fat for certain foods (I'd add some anyway for better taste or to avoid sticking depending on type of food and cooking/frying time, an example comparison of HA vs Duossal ruclips.net/video/vtGQCvoNxBY/видео.html). I might get the UL Duossal just to test myself the difference - saying that if I manage to find one available as it's really hard to buy both full HA or Duossal that are usually out of stock.
Wow David!!!!! This Is Exactly Why I Love the Comment Section!!!! Anyone that watched my video will receive X amount of information based on my experience and research. When they read the comments and see a comment like this, they receive even more information to disseminate! Knowledge weighs nothing, yet at times it's difficult to find good information. I have had very good luck with HA aluminum. I generally use ghee when I use my HA fry pans. I am not a fan of "non-stick" surfaces for all the reasons you listed. I want a 25 set just because of the increased cooking capacity. It's been a real learning experience to determine the correct recipe/amount of food to be cooked per cook set!!!! It has all been fun! Thanks again David!
Just got the 27-21 the 27 duossal with all the cook wear in that material. Been out of stock for many months, to a year (I might have gotten an email that I missed). Got the email today that they were back in stock so I hastily made an order so I would get one. So hopefully it will arrive in a few days. Looking forward to it.
THANK YOU! I love doing the research for my videos! For every 30 minutes of my review videos, I spend hours of time doing the research and I love every second of it! I'm thankful I was able to share something new with you.
As you say, it is not "the best" in anything, BUT it is a simple, compact and COMPLETE system that can be added to as you increase your needs or wear out certain components. While other kitchens are smaller and lighter they also have to have all extra pots and pans and wind shields added to them. In Sweden they are handed down through the generations for new experiences in the outdoors.
I enjoy stove/cook systems that have stood the test of time. learning to use them as they were intended to be used. I enjoy building things but not so much in to modifying things like this. I think using them as they were intended to be used, in it's way pays tribute to those that developed them years ago. The accessories that Trangia has made over the years does not change the design, but enhances it's usefulness. Coleman cooks stoves are the closest thing like the Trangia we have in the states. I love the older ones. There are several companies (Coleman included) that sell replacement parts for models dating back to 75 years. Those old stoves with replaced faulty parts work as well and are as reliable (if not more so than) as the new ones. I truly enjoyed researching the history of Trangia and seeing the product development over the years. I deeply appreciate the history.
@@boonedockery7220 mine is from the early 70:s, my father handed it down to me some 25 years ago. I think it´s about the same size as the modern 25 series. The only maintenance required is replacing the o-ring in the burner lid and keeping all the parts clean. I have been thinking of upgrading the stand for the burner so I get the hole for the gas fuel line but I kinda like the fact that with alcohol you always know how much fuel you have left and you dont neeed to bring more than you need. Which to me is essential when going out on a 7-10 day hike.
Thanks so much for the great review! You’re a great spokesman for Trangia. I just had a friend bring back a Trangia 25 from Sweden so I’m pretty excited to start using it!
Thank You! It would be nice if Trangia liked or commented on the video! I just think it's a great set. I would love to own the 25. Perhaps sometime in the future. The 27 is okay of one person but sometimes I have a big appetite and want to cook more than I can with the 27. Let me know how you like that 25 and please share your experiences with it!
I’ve watched several Trangia 27 reviews, yours is one of the best. Good job man. I own one and my thoughts were the same as yours. One of its greatest assets is wind protection, a good test would be how different cooksets perform in a stiff wind.
Thank You! I have several stoves I enjoy using. Everyone for a slightly different reason. I really like getting feedback from people that use the same items and reading their experiences. Thank you for doing that. Look for a review on the Solo Stove soon. That was a real challenge to master.
Yes, agreed. I learned a lot from this review. I just went through a power outage and couldn't even warm up the food that I had put aside. I am considering the larger one, the 25 for the purpose of relatively safe indoor cooking during a power outage rather than propane or even butane. It looks like you could easily boil pasta, vegetables, and fry eggs, etc..
@@lorimav another great thing with both the 25 & 27 is there stability, no worries of your pot or pan slipping off like on a small camp stove especially if you are cooking full meals instead of just boiling water.
Thank You Brian! I have just been enlightened to a few facts about the Solo Stove, so, if you were interested, don't buy one! I'll put up a video about it ASAP. The Trangia 27 is the bomb! As soon as I can I'll order the 25! 👍👍👍
I just found your channel and had to subscribe, lots of interesting topics and reviews. I have this set and love it, I’ve added the 25 frying pan and the bigger pot with lid, got the bigger Trangia strap and everything nests perfectly. I also have the mini, I think is called the 28 for hikes etc and as emergency in my car. I see you have another video with a Firebox, these 2 are my favorites as you can run any kind of fuel having both. Something to note is that in a fire ban you are allowed only canister fuel in which case both Trangia and Firebox can be used. Thanks for an outstanding video, glad I found your channel.
Thank You Carmen! First of all I apologize for the delay in responding to your comment. Secondly, I love the Trangia systems and accessories! I would love to own all of them! My Firebox stove performed very well over the winter, I used it with every fuel source I could think of. I appreciate your kind words and your subscription very much! Have a fantastic day!
Great video! keep it up as I always enjoy the content. I'm actually going to looks at getting some of this gear for my car camping / overlanding / get the fam out of the house trips. Thanks for sharing!
If you are shooting for car camping, I'd go with the 25, it's larger. I will check and see if my "Whisper light" will work with my 27. If it works you could use yours and find a picnic table to cook on! 😉😆😂😆😂👍
Thank You VERY Much! Every time I review a video I have produced I always realize I have forgotten things I should have added. I guess I am my worst critic. The Trangia system is amazing and extremely versatile. I hope that I did it justice to the degree that I could at the time. I really want to revisit this system after I add the 25 and the Mini to my collection. Thank you for your subscription, I sincerely hope you find more of my videos that you enjoy as well. Welcome to the family and I look forward to your future comments! Peace be with you my friend!
I just discovered you channel and have subscribed. I hope to find some recipe ideas there too. Great video. You strip that set down like Gomer Pyle! Loved it! Anyway, I really like my Trangia and that you use liters instead of ounces / quarts. All the best!
Adam, Thank You! I am deeply enamored Tragia products. I most definitely want all of their stove products and accessories!!! Just waiting on that lottery win! Hahahahaaa... Thank you for the advise!
@@boonedockery7220Yeah man I'm waiting on that lottery too. My stove collection has slowly grown over the past 30 plus years. Have something for every occasion. Keep on them videos ya doing goog!
Really informative and helpful video. Thanks so much for doing this video. I have a small jetfoil stove that uses a small propane canister, and wondered about a spirit fueled stove. This video took the mystery out of how spirit fueled stove works!!
Thank You Karen! I have many stoves of various types. I enjoy using all of them for different reasons. This Trangia cook set is an absolute joy to "cook" with. I opted to go with the MSR Reactor over the Jetboil many years ago when I chose a high speed water boiling stove (primarily due to it's larger capacity). Both do what they were intended to do masterfully! The 27 affords me the ability to boil large or small amounts of water (much slower than the Jetboil) or to cook a meal from raw ingredients just like I can at home (and anything in between). I do plan on purchasing the larger 25 in the future. That way I could cook for several people and they can pack the food (load sharing at work). I own several Trangia products and none of them have disappointed me. I have plans for many more stove and Trangia product videos in the future, so check back every once and a while, you might just see another item that strikes your fancy. Thanks Again Karen, Happy Wild Cooking!
Thank You!!!! I just used my 27 last weekend to film an MRE Review. I'll exploit any excuse to use it!!! 😉👍 You probably couldn't tell but I have a little Norse DNA😉...... Thanks again for your kind comment!👍
When you add steel plate to replace burner for solid fuel tablets, you have one option more. Solid fuel is little bit messy and smell like fish, but extremely reliable.
Wow, Thank You Very Much! I just a couple of your beautifully artistic videos. I am humbled and grateful! I can't wait to watch the rest of your videos Sir!
No Jeremy, I have not. Have you? I suppose I could do a very controlled test of Kerosene, Diesel, Lamp Oil and Petrol. It could be as much of a "This is why you should never do this" as a test to see if it works. I fear the Kerosene and Lamp Oil will burn very sooty and could impede the burner performance, perhaps the same with Diesel. The flash point and explosive quality of Petrol will be hazardous to light. Also the higher burn temperature of Petrol may compromise the metal the burner is made of. Okay, you planted the seed.... now to plan the tests.......
That would be a great idea! I know you can get multi-fuel stoves but never tried it with the Trang’s a burner. Always had plenty of “meths” - short for methylated sprits - back in Africa! Only problem was my tracker kept filtering it through half a loaf of bread and drinking the damn stuff! Here in the uk I use the gas attachment but was thinking of getting the meths burner as a backup. Sign me up for your experiments! Stay well, J.
More than 30 years ago, when I was young and stupid, I tried kerosene and white gas in my Trangia burner. It did not work well. The kerosene was hard to light, but once lit, flared up very badly. The white gas was a big ball of flame. I would not use these burners with anything other than alcohol.
@@boonedockery7220 what I'm seeing is way better than a cantine or bottle system combine this with a firebox type twig stove, it would be perfection for my quad. I've been developing my own dehydrated meals Need to get out but it's cold here in North California thanks for your videos
Boonedockery, I understand the paper/cardboard protector for the frying pan nonstick but doesn’t the pot lid strainer do the same thing? Not saying redundancy isn’t good. I’m just wondering. I’m waiting for the Duossal pots to come back in stock so I can get a 25 set for canoe camping. I was going to add the bigger nonstick pan with the folding handle and use the strainer lid between the top pan and the nonstick pan to protect it. Love to know what you think of that.
Prior to purchasing my kettle and multi-disk, I retained the shipping card that separated the fry pan from the rest of the kit. If you've watched any of my other stove videos you'll notice I retain and use all the shipping bags and the like. They protect them to some degree, the help reduce noise, the help keep the components clean and it keeps eating/cooking components separated from solid fuel residue. That's just what I do and why I do it. When I purchased the kettle and the multi-disk, I continued to use the shipping card. all plastics are abrasive to some degree. The surface of the multi-disc is smooth and will slide to some degree, back and forth on the none stick surface of the fry pan. The multi-disk is also hard so, the surface will not give when secured. Even with the retention strap tightened securely the interior components do move. My shipping card is fairly saturated with coking oil, which makes it somewhat tacky. The fry pan does not slide on it as it does the multi-disk. The complete kit, now with kettle and multi-disk stabilizes everything inside the cook pots very well. The shipping card between the multi-disk and the fry pan creates just enough of a separation between the multi-disk and fry pan the two never touch. with the slight tackiness of the shipping card permits no shifting or sliding to create eventual wear on the non-stick surface of the fry pan. That's just what I do and why I do it. The same protection could be achieved many ways. A silicone pot holder would work great. I know it's a complicated answer to a simple question, but, that's just me.... Eventually I will purchase many more products from Trangia, cook sets and accessories alike. Your acquiring a 25 for canoe camping is brilliant as is your decision to purchase the Duossal pots and larger fry pan!!!!!! For one person, the 27 is just fine. I just have to keep in mind when I cook I have to think SINGLE SERVINGS..... I've over loaded mine a few times. I doubt you'll have that problem with the 25!!!!! PLEASE let me know how everything works out and how you like the 25! I hope my long winded reply helped answer your question James. I'm eagerly anticipating your thoughts on the 25! Cheers!
great review! have you ever tried a kovea spider with the trangia 27? im looking to get the 27 and im wondering if the spider would fit nicely within the lower windscreen
Thanks for a great video! I think one of the big advantages of the Trangia fuel bottles is the button. If you pour alcohol from a normal (eg: soda) bottle and the burner is too hot (or still burning), then the flame will go into the bottle, melt it, and you have a major fire. Don't ask me how I know :(. With the button on the Trangia bottle, if the fuel catches fire while you are pouring it, just let go of the button (or the whole bottle) and the fuel flow and airflow stops.
John, that is both frightening and hilarious! I couldn't agree more with your safety assessment of the pour spout. That button also allows a precise pour even in small openings as well. 👍
I have been using my trusty Trangia since 1972 and never had a single problem. The spirit burner is a bit bashed up but works perfectly. I only ever use bioethanol in it nowadays as it burns cleaner and does not stink like methylated spirits ( i think you call it denatured alcohol ,in America).Also how have you managed to stop the handle of your kettle getting heat shrivel ??? everyone i know has a gnarly handle on the kettle.
Tony, That Is A Fantastic Testimony To the Quality Of The Trangia! I generally try to take the heat guard off my kettle when i cook with it but I do forget from time to time. I believe the very ends of mine are starting to roughen up a bit. I might just go ahead and order a couple more as I know I'm probably going to forget about it and wind up melting it good and proper!😅😆😅😆😅 .
@@boonedockery7220 Personally i wouldn,t bother, it just adds to the character. and there is an added bonus in that it actually makes for a better grip 😃
I'm with you on using bioethanol. I hate meths. It stinks and if you spill any on your gear you're stuck with the smell. If you get some on your fingers and then accidentally put a finger in your mouth it tastes vile and the taste lingers.
Trangia lower windshield holes are punched at outside to inside. Result is sharp edges. Using drill bit by hand is good way to fix it. Bigger holes by sandpaper. If you polish upper inner wall to shiny, it reflect heat more efficiency. Best pot color is black.
Aluminum may melt in open fire. I wish titanium Trangias were still made. In fact, i wish even more that they would come up with a version that is specifically made to double as a wood stove as well.
Strange to have you tell us about Trangia, when they’ve been on the market for so long , and used by so many people. I use a titanium Trangia burner, with all sorts of other titanium pots and wind breaks. Been using mine for 30 yrs or so now. So what do I say to you? Thanks for ? Well, not very much, but thanks anyway.
I didn't feel the video was necessarily needed to make people aware that it exists as if it were a well kept secret. I just LOVE the cook set! I know and have camped with several people that were aware it was out there, yet until they saw me using it, they honestly never considered purchasing one. Because it's a long time, tried and true design, a lot of "modern" wild campers and bushcrafter's won't give it a chance. Preferring to go with the latest and greatest thing on the market. I am saving up for an Uber 25 set, and I can't wait until I can order it! Please don't take offense to this, but, I don't really need your personal thanks for the video. I'm certain I have enlightened many people to the Trangia 27 as a possible option in cook sets that might not have ever seen them in the light I presented them. I do however appreciate you taking time to watch some (or all) of it. Perhaps one day I might produce a video that you will feel is worthy of appreciation. Until then, I trust your journey will be peaceful and fulfilling.
The link I shared was the ONLY place that had them in stock when I ordered mine, and, it was much less expensive than what I was seeing state side. Because order purchase price was what it was, shipping was free and I had it from Sweden within a week.
@@boonedockery7220 Thanks had a look, unfortunately they won't ship that to Canada, some wanker complained that they might get confused with a drinking bottle? Go figure
Retha, (If you are referring to Colemans White Gas camp fuel) you NEVER want to use anything but alcohol in the Trangia alcohol burner. The white gas is basically gasoline/petrol and will explode into a fireball upon ignition, VERY DANGEROUS! (if you are referring to Colemans Bottled Propane) You can purchase a propane bottle adapter that will allow you to use the Trangia Gas Burner with the propane bottle. I own one and it works beautifully! Have a great day Retha!
Never put aluminium in fire unless there is something in it to cool it down. You can very well use a pot or the kettle to boil water etc in a camp fire but using the wind shield for a fire is a no no. As you found out... Wood will burn at 300 degrees C and increase its temperature up till 600 degrees C while burning, and wood gases even higher, about same as melting point for aluminium.
It is very interesting that you asked that. During one of my journeys down the rabbit hole doing research, I happened upon an older cooking system that was very similar to the Trangia. It utilized a type of solid fuel tab very similar to the Esbit tabs. The really interesting thing about this system was that the container the heat tab was placed to burn was a gasification burner that functioned just like a wood gasification stove. It was about the same size and shape as a large tuna tin. I have to get back down that rabbit hole because I am very intrigued by the design and potential of such a burner. Thank you very much for asking that question, and, to answer it I would say YES! I bet you could!😉😄👍
I just received a reply from you with a link in my notifications, however, it isn't showing up here. That is indeed the stove I was referring to. With all the feedback I've received from the video, I will be doing a follow-up. I am starting a search for a Meta-50. Hopefully I can find one at a reasonable price.
I will try to find a fuel tablet burner but I'm certain "IF" I can find one it will be way more than I would be able to pay. I might just have to draw some illustrations....
That's Crazy! The first one of those bottles I purchased was from a Canadian Business.... Granted they may have changed the rules since then.... It's the best fuel bottle design I've ever used. Hopefully they will come to their senses and allow the sales.
I love my trangia 25. I recently picked up a couple of the evernew titanium alcohol burners. With a silicone bracelet the evernew fits the trangia. Really like the evernew.
@@boonedockery7220 You're welcome! Sorry for the tone of my comment. Was in a bad mood, kind of. Trangia is a great piece of kit. I bought mine in 1994 and it still works. It's the smaller one with Duosal pots (aluminium on the outside - stainless steel on the inside). Greetings from Sweden :)
Fuel bottles. If you need get it out safely, make two hoses thru a cap. One just thru and other up to half way a bottle hight. Fuel come only one way out, caused of pressure differences between hoses. For carry and storage, use normal cap.
Thank you very much, Mark! I try to cover as many bases as I can with my videos. Most folks want a pithy 8 to 15-minute "review". I personally find those videos to be fluff, uninformative, and based on little to no experience with the product. I won't review anything unless I feel I have used it extensively enough to really know how it performs and holds up to long-term use. If you talk with the Folks from Trangia, tell them they can call my agent about doing commercials for them😆😄😅😆😄😅😆😄😅!!!!!! Have a great day Mark! I'm glad you liked the video!👍
Trangia is cool and all, but aluminium is a pass for me. Not only for the pots. For most parts too. Making a fire underneath is an important backup. Personally I prefer everything stainless steel.
@@boonedockery7220 I’ve just had to listen a second time, I thought you had said you could use it in a Trangia, you actually were saying about using a Trangia bottle to store it. To someone who wasn’t familiar with trangia, it might have sounded as if you were suggesting it could be used in the burner.
Good info as always. Love getting your two cents. Could you shoot me an email if you still have my address. Would love to run somethings by you and would like first swing on gear you are wanting to get rid of.
Quick question. If the Trangia cooking system uses pot, pans and kettles made from Aluminium then you are poisoning yourself with aluminium oxide. Even the non stick surface coating (Teflon) on the upmarket Trangia cookware is cancer causing, so are you aware of this?. Chiefs etc are not permitted to cook with Aluminium, copper or Teflon coating. Only Stainless steel, cast-iron or pure ceramic cookware can be used. My Trangia gear has been thrown out other than the burner and now I use the MSR stainless cooking gear. Love your videos
Thank you so much for your comment Mikey. I'll start off by telling you I am aware of the health risks associated with using aluminum and non-stick surface cookware. I am also aware that it takes many many years of exposure to chemicals and carcinogens to suffer (depending on individual genetic disposition) any ill affects of these hazards. I use this cook set rarely, perhaps several times in a year. I am not in anyway fearful of being harmed by my cookware. Trangia now has a product line called Duossal. Stainless Steel on the inside and Aluminum on the outside. All the safety of stainless steel with less than half the weight. Even Esbit has a line of stainless steel cook sets. Just to add this for anyone other than you that may read this, The Aluminum Oxide being released by any aluminum cookware is all contingent on the acidity level of what is being cooked or consumed. Furthermore the longer the contents rest in said cookware will also affect the amount of aluminum oxide. If you are boiling pasta, the amount is for all general purposes, non-existent. Tomato based pasta sauce, might be measurable on a minuscule level. Leave pasta sauce in an aluminum container for a couple weeks the amount increases. Nothing harmful unless you consumed high acid foods stored for long periods of time for many years. However, that being said, if you ate the pasta sauce from an aluminum container after two weeks, you would spit it out and throw it away as it would taint the flavor to the point it is unpalatable. Mikey I do not mean to marginalize your concerns, as a matter of fact I applaud you for taking a stand and doing what is best for your health. I pray you have a long happy life!
Yes, over prolonged use. I do not use any of my aluminum / non-stick cookware enough to worry about it. It's my educated choice, to each their own. Thank you for posting your comment for those that are not aware of this.
Possibly the best review of the Trangia system on RUclips. And believe me I've watched a lot of them! You're a great presenter.
Wow, thank you!!!!! I will continue to keep this production formula then. I'm very pleased you liked it Eddie!!!!
Totally agree. A no BS this is it, this is how it packs and this is how it works .... just bought my son his first 27 kit and sent him this video to explain it to him as Covid means I'm in France and he is in the UK and I can't show him in person. Great vid
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Completely agree! And Ive seen A LOT of stove reviews.
One of the best, if not the best review, I've ever seen on anything on youtube.
I am truly humbled by your words..... Thank you!
Hi! I totally agree to your review. This system is just a joy and so fun to use. If you want even more fun and a little challenge when cooking I will recommend the Trangia 28 Mini. It's tiny and require you think twice to figure out how your meal will be a succes. Highly recommended! Happy cooking from Denmark.
Thanks for the tip! I will check out the 28 mini!
THANKS FOR A FINE DEMONSTRATION OF AN ICONIC SET! Post-Viet Nam, many 'Righteous' Backpackers were rocking Trangia or Sigg equipment. I confess I opted for Coleman PeakOne gas stoves because they did not require priming in cold weather and they produced a stronger flame. In those early times, I did not see a double windscreen system like this on the trail. It is a game changer. I have ALWAYS wanted a Trangia tea kettle...but we were backpacking as a family and needed to heat or boil more water. The low and wide Trangia kettle design offers great stability...and I have seen current Bushcrafters even use them to do Ramen Noodle packs and to eat the result right from the kettle. THAT'S efficient use of equipment.
Thank you very much for your comment! I was in my mid 40s before I got into the contemporary wild camping/ bush crafting. I have been blown away with the advances in design just in the years I have been doing this. There are some designs that are timeless and will used "as is" forever!
Excellent review! Full of rock solid, straightforward, and still comprehensive information. And I too have watched a LOT of RUclips stove reviews. This one does stand out.
I own many many stove systems. But when it comes to backpacking I've used the same Trangia spirit burner for nearly 30 years in both fair weather and foul. No moving parts, nothing to wear out or break. Silent operation (as opposed the "landing jet" sound of many of my other stoves). Reliable. Reasonably efficient. And a good "cooker".
There's so much emphasis on "speed" these days that most stove designs have become blow torch water boilers that can't cook without scorching. I've never understood "the rush" when I'm out backpacking or camping. The whole idea is to get off the clock and slow down. The idea that I'm going to be timing my stove in the backcountry just seems silly to me.
What I want is a quiet, rock-solid-reliable stove that can boil water while I pitch camp, but can also cook bacon or fry an egg without a white hot spot on the bottom of my pan. Trangia fits that bill and has never let me down.
Firebox sells a gas burner attachment for their Firebox twig stove, which also fits into the Trangia. The Trangia gas burner costs about $80, while Firebox sells their burner for $35.
For alternative fuels, you can use gel fire starter if you have a small bowl that fits the lower wind screen. Trangia sells such a bowl but you can use anything you have. The gel doesn't smell as bad as solid fuel tablets.
This is the best and most informative review of the trangia 27 I have seen on RUclips. Great info on the shape of the handle. I never heard this before and very interesting to learn. I love using the 27 for cooking proper meals and getting an even distribution of heat.I also love the fact its soooo quite. Great video sir 👍
Thank you Joe! I've been using mine quite a lot lately! I want to order the equivalent version in the 25 model for when I camp with others. I LOVE Trangia's products! Old Tech Still Works! At times much better than new!
I love my trangia and all the useful trangia accessories I use along side it. I have purchased many stoves over the years, all great in their own niche ways but I always find myself packing one or other combination of my trangia sets for most of my adventures. It's size, weight and efficiency is probably not optimal and I wouldn't accept that in most of the other equipment I use but for some reason I forgive my trangia equipment for all those things, unconditional love I guess. I know it will never let me down, period. Any failure has always been down to me and my operator error, not my trangia equipment. Great video and a big thumbs up from across the pond here in England.
Thank you very much Dave! I couldn't agree more! I too have many stoves and like/love them all for different reasons. Trangia, has earn my respect and captured my heart. Should my fortunes improve I will most definitely be purchasing MANY MORE Trangia Products!!!!
Haha. Watching you disassemble your Trangia Cookset so smoothly reminded me of when we were trained to
disassemble and reassemble our M-16's in US Army basic training.
It would have been even more impressive if you showed everyone at the end you did it all while blindfolded.
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!Bill23799, I agree with your comment. For me it was disassemble and reassemble our M-1 Garand in US Army basic training; 1962. Oops, showing my age.
Awesome review, best ive seen on the trangia 👌, absolutely love my 27 kit wouldnt be without it, and im a man of many stoves 🤣. ATB from across the pond 🇬🇧
Thank you VERY MUCH! I will never stop using it! I am saving up for an UBER 25, with all the accessories they make for it for overlanding car camping! I can't wait until I can purchase it!
@@boonedockery7220 sounds a plan brother, I have many gas stoves MSR, jetboil etc, but it's the functionality and durability of the trangia equipment just sets it apart, prefer my 27 over any other stove I own. Purchased the green fuel bottles after watching your video, there still way cheaper on the trangia site 👌
Best did i have seen on this item todate. I have 27 tranjia.
Aluminium great bit of kit. There is an army version and stainless steel version. If youd used thoese for your fire pit instead of the alumunium bodies type. I think that would have worked for a fire pit solid fuel coke wood etc even wax firelighters..
Its very versatile kit i have a kettle not trajiaand does fit wind shield.
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I also have another tranjia burner its just aluminium tin but does fit the shields. This just cost £2.00 from camping store in uk
Have a good new year.
Thank You Very Much. When I have the time to do so, I love to research the history and development of the items in my kit. I always research the items before I drop the coin on them but there are few items worthy of going down "The Rabbit Hole" in order to satisfy my curiosity.
I originally was going to purchase a Swiss Surplus Meta 50 but every retailer I found was sold out. Back then they were selling for $15 to $20. Now they are highly collectible and IF you can find one you'll be paying "Collector Prices".
Love my Trangia gear, you can actually cook on it vice just boil. Quick tip: buy some Bar Keepers Friend (like a very soft Comet Cleanser) to clean any discoloration or blackening on your Trangia gear. Do Not use it on the non-stick surfaces. Works very well. Thanks for the excellent and very thorough video.
Great Tip Scott! My wife uses Bar Keepers Friend on all of our stainless steel surfaces in our kitchen. I'll give it a try. Thanks again!
good design endures time... Trangia is still the best alcohol stove & cooking system, by far. My back-up system is a Firebox twig stove, which is also a great design, very efficient and very small. Because of open-flame-burner restrictions I am considering buying the butane adapter for my Trangia, although I am a not a great fan of gas cartouches (environmental issues). If a lot of output is needed then I use my old reliable Primus or Whispy. Fuel efficiency and weight are an issue to consider, but even so the traditional Trangia system makes a lot of sense, especially since alcohol is so cheap and readily available, and that there are no moving parts that could fail, besides it is so silent (not the case with my beloved Primus). I also have a Titanium alternative, which is great, but Ti pots are poor for cooking (cooking is not like boiling). All in all, even knowing that my Trangia might not be the most "efficient" stove, I would still prefer it over any other brand/model. And besides, do you really think that a couple seconds more of boiling time would make ANY difference when you are outdoors enjoying the scenery? are you really in that a rush? c'mon... greetings from wild, wet, windy and wonderful western Patagonia
Wow, that was quite a comment! I'll simply reply with a simple "Yeah! What He Said!"..... Thank you so much for your valuable input, It's greatly appreciated!
Great Review, The gas burner is made so that in cold conditions the gas canister can be inverted so liquid fuel goes to the burner and the burner has a heating loop, I have cooked a full roast dinner using a Trangia 25 using the gas burner with a cast iron pot on top, It produced plenty of heat to cook the roast. A+ for the Trangia design as a lifetime cook set that can be passed onto the next generation, and they are virtually unbreakable for motorcycle camping.
Rob, I agree whole heartedly! I bought an adapter that will fit a standard butane canister. I'm going to try it out this weekend. It's not practical for backpacking but great for vehicle camping. Have a great day!
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Great review, an honest as the day.
Nothing better than putting your hand up an owning it.
Cheers from the land down under
Thank You! I deeply appreciate that! I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes! Hopefully, others can learn a little bit from both my successes and failures.
Excellent review of a system that has been actually used. Thank you, refreshing.
Thank You! I just try to keep things real!
@@boonedockery7220It shows. 🙌
Great review, Trangia sells a gel/solid fuel cup with lid. The most versatile & efficient cook system still going & they keep improving their product. Thank you for sharing.
I absolutely love your reviews. Informative, straightforward and funny. Great stuff👍
Thank You! Perhaps you could tell my wife about the "Funny" part! Hahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
As always, great content! Keep up the good work, and those who fast forward through your talk on your videos miss out on tons of great information! I enjoy your long rants! Keep them going!
Thank You! I plan to keep moving forward. Gotta get through the holidays and the content will improve. Thanks again!
I use this for a month or more at a time in the arctic every summer. You can’t really use all those mini sets for anything substantial our there. Too wet, windy, too few cooking options. The trangia is enough of a kitchen that if you know what you are doing you can bake, fry, deep fry, boil, steam or whatever else you put your mind to. It’s economical with the fuel and functions reliably, and every detail about it has been carefully thought out and then field-tested for ever. I live off a bag of rice a few onions and seafood I get spearfishing when I am out - and I want to be able to cook in a varied and creative ways and get good results.
All of what you wrote sounds awesome! I prefer to use my Trangia in the winter when I want to actually cook (not reheat).
@@boonedockery7220 Right. I usually only get to reheat whatever has been already cooked on it. I’ve had a bag of the freezedried stuff in my bag for 5 years now, as an emergency backup. I always forget about it and it never gets eaten xD
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spearfishing and Trangia cooking would be an amazing video ???
@@andygrayson7485 I guess it could be. Ive been considering something like that for a while, but I don’t have a camera, let alone a waterproof one - and there is an issue of batteries. I keep a phone charged for emergencies (aside from a garmin inreach) and weather forecasts and I can keep that running with a portable solar panel and a couple of powerbanks, but I doubt it would sustain charging a bunch of camera gear, especially if it was going in the water as well ….
Hi from a Brit expat living in Malaysia 🇲🇾. Came across your channel in my YT feed today, loved it and subscribed. Have been dying to get one of the Trangia storm cookers for a number of years now and finally bit the bullet last month, although I had to order mine from the UK as they're difficult to source locally. Unfortunately due to a series of postal strikes in the UK, what normally takes less than a week to reach me is still stuck in the colossal mail backlog over there. All the Trangia accesories I ordered online from Trangia suppliers in Taiwan arrived in 5 days! . At least I have my trusty Firebox Gen 2 to rely on when I go out on a hike in the meantime 👍. Looking forward to catching up with the backlog of your videos in the weeks ahead. Happy Holidays and all the best for the year ahead.
Hello, And welcome to the channel! First of all I apologize for the delay in my reply. I had 5 of my videos that "went NUTS" and my normal two or three comments that appear daily increased to hundreds. I have had to deal with numerous personal issues to include the death of my Mother. I have been replying to comments daily and I still have more than 1,000 to go.
Hopefully you have received your Trangia storm cooker and have had numerous opportunities to use it. Your Firebox G2 is an awesome stove as well. I used my Firebox for the entire winter camping season last year. It more than proved it's worth!
Thank you for your holiday wishes. For the most part it was a wonderful holiday season. I trust yours was as well. Blessings!
@@boonedockery7220 thanks for getting back to me. Sorry to learn of your loss. My condolences. My Trangia 25- 7 eventually arrived last week after a 21/2 month journey. Have tried it out at home; what an awesome bit of kit. Hope to get out this week to try it out in the field although it's been very wet this last few months as it's our rainy season....but still damn hot!. Take care and good luck catching up with your responses. Love the channel btw 👍🇲🇾
Unlike some types of camping stove, Trangia spirit burner stoves are perfectly safe to use in a domestic kitchen.
This can be important if you live off-grid, or where household gas/electricity supplies can be interrupted, or where mains power is expensive.
What a great and comprehensive review, It's clear to me that you have a lot of experience using the cooking system, this gives me proper reason to trust your judgement.
Thank you very much for your time and energy put into this well made video! Greetings from Sweden!
Thank You Very Much! I love the Trangia System! Eventually, I would like to purchase the other Trangia systems. An old design that will stand the test of time well into the future! I am very pleased you enjoyed the video. I know I have a lot to learn about video production.😉😀 Have a fantastic day!
As you are now probably aware, Trangia stock a small dish so that you can use hexamine tablets as an alternate heat source. Great video by the way..... Going to have to find my T25 set and use it when travelling.
Thank you for posting this! Folks need to know everything they can about this set!
I like the trangia design to hold fuel in the stove when done. However, I used to custom build
Alcohol Stoves for fun and i did a lot of experimenting with several different materials and port designs.
I made one that was a fierce cooker that would boil 2 cups of water in 2.5 minutes.
😳😳😳DANG!!!!! That's Impressive!
nice vid....had my 27 for about 9 years now and its as good as the day i bought it. bashed and well loved and brilliant bit of kit ..cheers
Thank you Chris! I agree with you whole heartedly, The 27 IS a Brilliant bit Of Kit! Cheers!
Great video! Thanks a million. I just picked up the Model 27 windshields and now, I am waiting for the Duossal pots and pan to get back in stock. I'm looking forward to many years of cooking with this neat little stove kit. Thanks again! You did a great job!
Thank you very much Russell! I absolutely love my 27! I would love to pick up the 25 and the mini one of these days as well. Trangia, has really set the bar on effective, quality, simple, and efficient cookware and systems. Thank you again for your comment, it is very much appreciated!!!!
@@boonedockery7220 I absolutely agree! You are very welcome, my Friend! Keep up the good work!
Not sure if you were able to find it or not but as of today, the Duossal pots are still not in stock on the Trangia website. I did manage to find it on Amazon Japan if you can wait for the month shipping and does seem to have a ~$25 markup on the set.
Finally got to sit down and watch this, Need to invest in a spirit burner
I know there are many on they market and quite a few have their own special gimmicks. The Trangia is the best I have ever used.
For me the best Trangia are the Storm Cooker 27-21 UL/D with Gas Burner, I have the Kettle 27 Small, 0.6 L and ditch the small pan, so one large pan and a kettle. I ditched the spirit burner many years ago, it takes much too long time to cook and uses too much spirit, so gas cooks much faster and uses not much gas, so it is a much more light weight solution with the gas burner ! Highly recommended.
I agree, I have the gas burner and love it! There are a couple things I want to try with it, but overall, It's an amazing cook set!
Many thanks for an awesome review that has information no other person has ever mentioned in watched videos. I've just ordered my 25-2 set (3-4 people/family) and intend to get the 27 for UL backpacking trips. The only problem I had was a choice between aluminium and HA-aluminium. Finally I decided full HA as I personally don't believe in non-stick coating based on my experiences with frying pans - they usually don't last very long (non-stick coating start to peel off) and food usually starts to stick anyway after some use even though am super cautious when choosing the right utensils or clean it strictly according to instructions. I have a set of decent quality 6 years old HA kitchen pans and they still work like brand new so am more of a HA fan - it's a personal research and choice. Trangia used to sell UL Duossal Cooker (two sheets of aluminium for better heat distribution and steel for durability pressed together) version but they've been replaced by UL-HA or full HA ones - slightly less weight, apparently similar durability, very good heat distribution / less hot spots, no corrosion and less maintenance than steel (a lot of pro chefs use steel although indoors). Steel requires more maintenance and some say is better for cooking or frying on fats to avoid sticking whereas HA can get away without fat for certain foods (I'd add some anyway for better taste or to avoid sticking depending on type of food and cooking/frying time, an example comparison of HA vs Duossal ruclips.net/video/vtGQCvoNxBY/видео.html). I might get the UL Duossal just to test myself the difference - saying that if I manage to find one available as it's really hard to buy both full HA or Duossal that are usually out of stock.
Wow David!!!!! This Is Exactly Why I Love the Comment Section!!!! Anyone that watched my video will receive X amount of information based on my experience and research. When they read the comments and see a comment like this, they receive even more information to disseminate! Knowledge weighs nothing, yet at times it's difficult to find good information.
I have had very good luck with HA aluminum. I generally use ghee when I use my HA fry pans. I am not a fan of "non-stick" surfaces for all the reasons you listed. I want a 25 set just because of the increased cooking capacity. It's been a real learning experience to determine the correct recipe/amount of food to be cooked per cook set!!!! It has all been fun!
Thanks again David!
Just got the 27-21 the 27 duossal with all the cook wear in that material. Been out of stock for many months, to a year (I might have gotten an email that I missed). Got the email today that they were back in stock so I hastily made an order so I would get one. So hopefully it will arrive in a few days. Looking forward to it.
Great video! Informative and interesting. Thanks for sharing the history behind the handle design. I learned something new.
THANK YOU! I love doing the research for my videos! For every 30 minutes of my review videos, I spend hours of time doing the research and I love every second of it! I'm thankful I was able to share something new with you.
As you say, it is not "the best" in anything, BUT it is a simple, compact and COMPLETE system that can be added to as you increase your needs or wear out certain components. While other kitchens are smaller and lighter they also have to have all extra pots and pans and wind shields added to them. In Sweden they are handed down through the generations for new experiences in the outdoors.
I enjoy stove/cook systems that have stood the test of time. learning to use them as they were intended to be used. I enjoy building things but not so much in to modifying things like this. I think using them as they were intended to be used, in it's way pays tribute to those that developed them years ago. The accessories that Trangia has made over the years does not change the design, but enhances it's usefulness. Coleman cooks stoves are the closest thing like the Trangia we have in the states. I love the older ones. There are several companies (Coleman included) that sell replacement parts for models dating back to 75 years. Those old stoves with replaced faulty parts work as well and are as reliable (if not more so than) as the new ones. I truly enjoyed researching the history of Trangia and seeing the product development over the years. I deeply appreciate the history.
@@boonedockery7220 mine is from the early 70:s, my father handed it down to me some 25 years ago. I think it´s about the same size as the modern 25 series. The only maintenance required is replacing the o-ring in the burner lid and keeping all the parts clean. I have been thinking of upgrading the stand for the burner so I get the hole for the gas fuel line but I kinda like the fact that with alcohol you always know how much fuel you have left and you dont neeed to bring more than you need. Which to me is essential when going out on a 7-10 day hike.
Thanks so much for the great review! You’re a great spokesman for Trangia. I just had a friend bring back a Trangia 25 from Sweden so I’m pretty excited to start using it!
Thank You! It would be nice if Trangia liked or commented on the video! I just think it's a great set. I would love to own the 25. Perhaps sometime in the future. The 27 is okay of one person but sometimes I have a big appetite and want to cook more than I can with the 27. Let me know how you like that 25 and please share your experiences with it!
@@boonedockery7220 Will do!
Thanks for that. I had the same idea, but was a bit concerned about the aluminium. Luckily I watched this video before using the Trangia as an Hobo.
Learning through mistakes, whether they are your own or others is a powerful lesson well learned.
I’ve watched several Trangia 27 reviews, yours is one of the best. Good job man.
I own one and my thoughts were the same as yours.
One of its greatest assets is wind protection, a good test would be how different cooksets perform in a stiff wind.
Thank You! I have several stoves I enjoy using. Everyone for a slightly different reason. I really like getting feedback from people that use the same items and reading their experiences. Thank you for doing that. Look for a review on the Solo Stove soon. That was a real challenge to master.
Yes, agreed. I learned a lot from this review. I just went through a power outage and couldn't even warm up the food that I had put aside. I am considering the larger one, the 25 for the purpose of relatively safe indoor cooking during a power outage rather than propane or even butane. It looks like you could easily boil pasta, vegetables, and fry eggs, etc..
@@lorimav another great thing with both the 25 & 27 is there stability, no worries of your pot or pan slipping off like on a small camp stove especially if you are cooking full meals instead of just boiling water.
@@lorimav I'm practically praying for a power outage so I can use mine!
@@oxxnarrdflame8865 yes indeed no more wobbly canister-top stoves and skinny cookpots for me!
I really enjoyed your review. I just bought one. I will see what other great content you have. Thumbs up.
Thank You Brian! I have just been enlightened to a few facts about the Solo Stove, so, if you were interested, don't buy one! I'll put up a video about it ASAP. The Trangia 27 is the bomb! As soon as I can I'll order the 25! 👍👍👍
Mr. Timms this is awesome!
Thank You Shayne! I hope you like more of my videos! Take Care Brother!
Another informative video; thanks again for this info.
It's my pleasure, and thank you!
I just found your channel and had to subscribe, lots of interesting topics and reviews. I have this set and love it, I’ve added the 25 frying pan and the bigger pot with lid, got the bigger Trangia strap and everything nests perfectly. I also have the mini, I think is called the 28 for hikes etc and as emergency in my car. I see you have another video with a Firebox, these 2 are my favorites as you can run any kind of fuel having both. Something to note is that in a fire ban you are allowed only canister fuel in which case both Trangia and Firebox can be used. Thanks for an outstanding video, glad I found your channel.
Thank You Carmen! First of all I apologize for the delay in responding to your comment. Secondly, I love the Trangia systems and accessories! I would love to own all of them! My Firebox stove performed very well over the winter, I used it with every fuel source I could think of. I appreciate your kind words and your subscription very much! Have a fantastic day!
Great video! keep it up as I always enjoy the content. I'm actually going to looks at getting some of this gear for my car camping / overlanding / get the fam out of the house trips. Thanks for sharing!
If you are shooting for car camping, I'd go with the 25, it's larger. I will check and see if my "Whisper light" will work with my 27. If it works you could use yours and find a picnic table to cook on! 😉😆😂😆😂👍
Still love your videos
Thank You Very Much Wyatt! I appreciate that!👍
One of the best or maybe THE BEST Trangia review. Cheers from Germany. +SUB
Thank You VERY Much! Every time I review a video I have produced I always realize I have forgotten things I should have added. I guess I am my worst critic. The Trangia system is amazing and extremely versatile. I hope that I did it justice to the degree that I could at the time. I really want to revisit this system after I add the 25 and the Mini to my collection. Thank you for your subscription, I sincerely hope you find more of my videos that you enjoy as well. Welcome to the family and I look forward to your future comments! Peace be with you my friend!
I just discovered you channel and have subscribed. I hope to find some recipe ideas there too.
Great video. You strip that set down like Gomer Pyle! Loved it!
Anyway, I really like my Trangia and that you use liters instead of ounces / quarts.
All the best!
Thank You And Welcome To The Family!
I really like your CGI created Cold Breath. It made me almost feel like you
were standing in sub zero temps.
Liked and Subbed.
Yeah, My "Crew" on my "production team" takes care of all that stuff. I'm just eye candy!😳😳😳😳😅😆😄😅😆😄 Thank You! Welcome to the family!
Very good review,i love mine too.Thanks from Stockholm.
Thank you very much Peter! I deeply appreciate the compliment!
Nice review.. I have all three sizes and love em. I prefer the non stick for easy cleanup on the trail.
Adam, Thank You! I am deeply enamored Tragia products. I most definitely want all of their stove products and accessories!!! Just waiting on that lottery win! Hahahahaaa... Thank you for the advise!
@@boonedockery7220Yeah man I'm waiting on that lottery too. My stove collection has slowly grown over the past 30 plus years. Have something for every occasion. Keep on them videos ya doing goog!
Really informative and helpful video. Thanks so much for doing this video. I have a small jetfoil stove that uses a small propane canister, and wondered about a spirit fueled stove. This video took the mystery out of how spirit fueled stove works!!
Thank You Karen! I have many stoves of various types. I enjoy using all of them for different reasons. This Trangia cook set is an absolute joy to "cook" with. I opted to go with the MSR Reactor over the Jetboil many years ago when I chose a high speed water boiling stove (primarily due to it's larger capacity). Both do what they were intended to do masterfully! The 27 affords me the ability to boil large or small amounts of water (much slower than the Jetboil) or to cook a meal from raw ingredients just like I can at home (and anything in between). I do plan on purchasing the larger 25 in the future. That way I could cook for several people and they can pack the food (load sharing at work). I own several Trangia products and none of them have disappointed me. I have plans for many more stove and Trangia product videos in the future, so check back every once and a while, you might just see another item that strikes your fancy. Thanks Again Karen, Happy Wild Cooking!
Great video 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Fantastic review, thank you!😀 Just ordered a 27-3. Greetings from Norway!
Thank You!!!! I just used my 27 last weekend to film an MRE Review. I'll exploit any excuse to use it!!! 😉👍 You probably couldn't tell but I have a little Norse DNA😉...... Thanks again for your kind comment!👍
Just ordered my 27 and can’t wait for it to arrive
@@mrjenybean I'm certain you'll love it!
Excellent video.
Thanks and God bless.
:))
Thank You And God Bless You Brother!
i feel the woods calling...
It calls far more often than I can answer brother!
Once again an interesting video!
Thank you very much!
When you add steel plate to replace burner for solid fuel tablets, you have one option more. Solid fuel is little bit messy and smell like fish, but extremely reliable.
I noticed Trangia sell a dish that fits in the spirit burner space. One could use Gelled or Solid fuel in them.
@@boonedockery7220 I wohder if post-covid supplies of hand gel will work in the gel burner?!
@@eddieallen6401 Especially when companies like dragon fire have always advertised their products can serve as hand sanitizer ....
Good video review. Just a thought, take old base and remove the grill area. then may work as a small wood stove as you tried.
Thank you and thanks for the idea. I haven't thrown it away yet, so I'll take a look at it and see what I can do with it.👍
what awesome presentation - you have a gift :)
Wow, Thank You Very Much! I just a couple of your beautifully artistic videos. I am humbled and grateful! I can't wait to watch the rest of your videos Sir!
@@boonedockery7220 thanks and i am glad you like my soundrecordings/video too. Will take an eye on yours future videos too. Have a great time
@@gregorv4951 Thank You!
Trangia start 100 year ago. They know what do for nature people
Agreed!
One of the best reviews of the Trangia cook set I've ever seen! Really enjoyable to watch! Have you ever used petrol or diesel in your meths burner?
No Jeremy, I have not. Have you? I suppose I could do a very controlled test of Kerosene, Diesel, Lamp Oil and Petrol. It could be as much of a "This is why you should never do this" as a test to see if it works. I fear the Kerosene and Lamp Oil will burn very sooty and could impede the burner performance, perhaps the same with Diesel. The flash point and explosive quality of Petrol will be hazardous to light. Also the higher burn temperature of Petrol may compromise the metal the burner is made of. Okay, you planted the seed.... now to plan the tests.......
That would be a great idea! I know you can get multi-fuel stoves but never tried it with the Trang’s a burner. Always had plenty of “meths” - short for methylated sprits - back in Africa! Only problem was my tracker kept filtering it through half a loaf of bread and drinking the damn stuff! Here in the uk I use the gas attachment but was thinking of getting the meths burner as a backup. Sign me up for your experiments! Stay well, J.
More than 30 years ago, when I was young and stupid, I tried kerosene and white gas in my Trangia burner. It did not work well. The kerosene was hard to light, but once lit, flared up very badly. The white gas was a big ball of flame. I would not use these burners with anything other than alcohol.
Another great video!
Thank You! More cooking video's to come with this set!
Looks very stable low and wide
I've never had it tip or get blown over.
@@boonedockery7220 what I'm seeing is way better than a cantine or bottle system combine this with a firebox type twig stove, it would be perfection for my quad. I've been developing my own dehydrated meals
Need to get out but it's cold here in North California thanks for your videos
Thank u
You are very welcome Peter!
Very well done!
Thank you very much John!
Thx, great tutoutial
Thank You!
Excellent video. I have the duossal one myself....typo
Thank You Andrew! I love the variety of set possibilities Trangia offers. Truly something for everyone!
Boonedockery, I understand the paper/cardboard protector for the frying pan nonstick but doesn’t the pot lid strainer do the same thing? Not saying redundancy isn’t good. I’m just wondering. I’m waiting for the Duossal pots to come back in stock so I can get a 25 set for canoe camping. I was going to add the bigger nonstick pan with the folding handle and use the strainer lid between the top pan and the nonstick pan to protect it. Love to know what you think of that.
Prior to purchasing my kettle and multi-disk, I retained the shipping card that separated the fry pan from the rest of the kit. If you've watched any of my other stove videos you'll notice I retain and use all the shipping bags and the like. They protect them to some degree, the help reduce noise, the help keep the components clean and it keeps eating/cooking components separated from solid fuel residue. That's just what I do and why I do it.
When I purchased the kettle and the multi-disk, I continued to use the shipping card. all plastics are abrasive to some degree. The surface of the multi-disc is smooth and will slide to some degree, back and forth on the none stick surface of the fry pan. The multi-disk is also hard so, the surface will not give when secured. Even with the retention strap tightened securely the interior components do move.
My shipping card is fairly saturated with coking oil, which makes it somewhat tacky. The fry pan does not slide on it as it does the multi-disk. The complete kit, now with kettle and multi-disk stabilizes everything inside the cook pots very well. The shipping card between the multi-disk and the fry pan creates just enough of a separation between the multi-disk and fry pan the two never touch. with the slight tackiness of the shipping card permits no shifting or sliding to create eventual wear on the non-stick surface of the fry pan.
That's just what I do and why I do it. The same protection could be achieved many ways. A silicone pot holder would work great. I know it's a complicated answer to a simple question, but, that's just me....
Eventually I will purchase many more products from Trangia, cook sets and accessories alike. Your acquiring a 25 for canoe camping is brilliant as is your decision to purchase the Duossal pots and larger fry pan!!!!!!
For one person, the 27 is just fine. I just have to keep in mind when I cook I have to think SINGLE SERVINGS..... I've over loaded mine a few times. I doubt you'll have that problem with the 25!!!!!
PLEASE let me know how everything works out and how you like the 25! I hope my long winded reply helped answer your question James. I'm eagerly anticipating your thoughts on the 25! Cheers!
@@boonedockery7220 Brilliant! Thanks man.
@@jamesnoland3445 Any time James! I'm glad I could help! have a fantastic day!
In case you want to know, the duossal is back in stock if you haven't gotten it yet 👌
@@AlexKall Thanks man!
great review! have you ever tried a kovea spider with the trangia 27? im looking to get the 27 and im wondering if the spider would fit nicely within the lower windscreen
No, I have not. It would be very cool if it were conducive with the system!
Thanks for a great video! I think one of the big advantages of the Trangia fuel bottles is the button. If you pour alcohol from a normal (eg: soda) bottle and the burner is too hot (or still burning), then the flame will go into the bottle, melt it, and you have a major fire. Don't ask me how I know :(. With the button on the Trangia bottle, if the fuel catches fire while you are pouring it, just let go of the button (or the whole bottle) and the fuel flow and airflow stops.
John, that is both frightening and hilarious! I couldn't agree more with your safety assessment of the pour spout. That button also allows a precise pour even in small openings as well. 👍
Awsome video! I just subscribed. Now you need the 2.5 liter billy that the 27 drops into.....
Thank You Very Much! I would Love to get the 2.5 liter billy! Perhaps, someday.....
I have been using my trusty Trangia since 1972 and never had a single problem. The spirit burner is a bit bashed up but works perfectly. I only ever use bioethanol in it nowadays as it burns cleaner and does not stink like methylated spirits ( i think you call it denatured alcohol ,in America).Also how have you managed to stop the handle of your kettle getting heat shrivel ??? everyone i know has a gnarly handle on the kettle.
Tony, That Is A Fantastic Testimony To the Quality Of The Trangia! I generally try to take the heat guard off my kettle when i cook with it but I do forget from time to time. I believe the very ends of mine are starting to roughen up a bit. I might just go ahead and order a couple more as I know I'm probably going to forget about it and wind up melting it good and proper!😅😆😅😆😅 .
@@boonedockery7220 Personally i wouldn,t bother, it just adds to the character. and there is an added bonus in that it actually makes for a better grip 😃
@@tonypattison7971 True Dat!!!!
I'm with you on using bioethanol. I hate meths. It stinks and if you spill any on your gear you're stuck with the smell. If you get some on your fingers and then accidentally put a finger in your mouth it tastes vile and the taste lingers.
Excellent. Liked and sub’d. 😎🤘
Thank You Very Much John! I Deeply Appreciate It!
12:20 Small flame ring diameter, screw top of canister, gas burners are compatible with trangia set. Just put set, top of it.
Thank you for the info!
Trangia lower windshield holes are punched at outside to inside. Result is sharp edges. Using drill bit by hand is good way to fix it. Bigger holes by sandpaper. If you polish upper inner wall to shiny, it reflect heat more efficiency. Best pot color is black.
Thank you for the info!
It's a great video.
どうもありがとうございました！
Great review 👏
Thank You Very Much Nicholas!
Got mine of amazon today getting ready for a camping trip all round the English Surrey hills
@@nicholashurley5659 Fantastic! I'd love to get back to England and camp some more!
Bro England would love to have u
@@nicholashurley5659 It won't be soon, but I will return!
This guy looks strikingly similar to an art teacher I had 20 years ago.
Shane, I've been teaching for 30 years now. I'll probably stick around until they kick me out of the building! 😆😂😂😆
Its him! Teaches the Art of being Outside and enjoying it
Aluminum may melt in open fire. I wish titanium Trangias were still made. In fact, i wish even more that they would come up with a version that is specifically made to double as a wood stove as well.
That is a brilliant idea!
it also conserves heat
Strange to have you tell us about Trangia, when they’ve been on the market for so long , and used by so many people. I use a titanium Trangia burner, with all sorts of other titanium pots and wind breaks. Been using mine for 30 yrs or so now. So what do I say to you? Thanks for ? Well, not very much, but thanks anyway.
I didn't feel the video was necessarily needed to make people aware that it exists as if it were a well kept secret. I just LOVE the cook set! I know and have camped with several people that were aware it was out there, yet until they saw me using it, they honestly never considered purchasing one. Because it's a long time, tried and true design, a lot of "modern" wild campers and bushcrafter's won't give it a chance. Preferring to go with the latest and greatest thing on the market. I am saving up for an Uber 25 set, and I can't wait until I can order it!
Please don't take offense to this, but, I don't really need your personal thanks for the video. I'm certain I have enlightened many people to the Trangia 27 as a possible option in cook sets that might not have ever seen them in the light I presented them. I do however appreciate you taking time to watch some (or all) of it. Perhaps one day I might produce a video that you will feel is worthy of appreciation. Until then, I trust your journey will be peaceful and fulfilling.
where did you find the fuel bottle have been looking for one but no luck so far.
shop.trangia.se/en/accessories/fuel-bottle-0-5l-1.html
The link I shared was the ONLY place that had them in stock when I ordered mine, and, it was much less expensive than what I was seeing state side. Because order purchase price was what it was, shipping was free and I had it from Sweden within a week.
@@boonedockery7220 Thanks had a look, unfortunately they won't ship that to Canada, some wanker complained that they might get confused with a drinking bottle? Go figure
@@1LRLRG That's insane....
@@boonedockery7220 Yup but thats Canada, insanity reigns. Just look at our political system, crooks and crazies in power
Can I use Coleman fuel with the stove?
Retha, (If you are referring to Colemans White Gas camp fuel) you NEVER want to use anything but alcohol in the Trangia alcohol burner. The white gas is basically gasoline/petrol and will explode into a fireball upon ignition, VERY DANGEROUS! (if you are referring to Colemans Bottled Propane) You can purchase a propane bottle adapter that will allow you to use the Trangia Gas Burner with the propane bottle. I own one and it works beautifully! Have a great day Retha!
Never put aluminium in fire unless there is something in it to cool it down. You can very well use a pot or the kettle to boil water etc in a camp fire but using the wind shield for a fire is a no no. As you found out... Wood will burn at 300 degrees C and increase its temperature up till 600 degrees C while burning, and wood gases even higher, about same as melting point for aluminium.
I... Wonder???? could a tin can like a pet food can fit the hole in the trangia windscreen and be used for nezbit tabs?
It is very interesting that you asked that. During one of my journeys down the rabbit hole doing research, I happened upon an older cooking system that was very similar to the Trangia. It utilized a type of solid fuel tab very similar to the Esbit tabs. The really interesting thing about this system was that the container the heat tab was placed to burn was a gasification burner that functioned just like a wood gasification stove. It was about the same size and shape as a large tuna tin. I have to get back down that rabbit hole because I am very intrigued by the design and potential of such a burner. Thank you very much for asking that question, and, to answer it I would say YES! I bet you could!😉😄👍
@@boonedockery7220 And the name of that older cooking system ...was?
@@badhat3051 If memory serves it was a META brand. Possibly the Model 50.
I just received a reply from you with a link in my notifications, however, it isn't showing up here. That is indeed the stove I was referring to. With all the feedback I've received from the video, I will be doing a follow-up. I am starting a search for a Meta-50. Hopefully I can find one at a reasonable price.
I will try to find a fuel tablet burner but I'm certain "IF" I can find one it will be way more than I would be able to pay. I might just have to draw some illustrations....
that fuel bottle cannot be sold in Canada. I've never seen a decent explanation
That's Crazy! The first one of those bottles I purchased was from a Canadian Business.... Granted they may have changed the rules since then.... It's the best fuel bottle design I've ever used. Hopefully they will come to their senses and allow the sales.
I love my trangia 25. I recently picked up a couple of the evernew titanium alcohol burners. With a silicone bracelet the evernew fits the trangia. Really like the evernew.
Oooooooo!!!! I am going to have to check that burner out!!!! Thanks For The Tip!!!
The G in Trangia is pronounced as g in "goal" not g as in "Germany". Trangia fuel stove is manufactured by Trangia company out of Sweden.
Thank you, I will try to remember that in the future. Have a great day!
@@boonedockery7220 You're welcome! Sorry for the tone of my comment. Was in a bad mood, kind of. Trangia is a great piece of kit. I bought mine in 1994 and it still works. It's the smaller one with Duosal pots (aluminium on the outside - stainless steel on the inside).
Greetings from Sweden :)
Fuel bottles. If you need get it out safely, make two hoses thru a cap. One just thru and other up to half way a bottle hight. Fuel come only one way out, caused of pressure differences between hoses. For carry and storage, use normal cap.
Good idea Jari! What bottles do you normally use?
I do like Trangia stuff but this was like watching a full on commercial.
Thank you very much, Mark! I try to cover as many bases as I can with my videos. Most folks want a pithy 8 to 15-minute "review". I personally find those videos to be fluff, uninformative, and based on little to no experience with the product. I won't review anything unless I feel I have used it extensively enough to really know how it performs and holds up to long-term use. If you talk with the Folks from Trangia, tell them they can call my agent about doing commercials for them😆😄😅😆😄😅😆😄😅!!!!!! Have a great day Mark! I'm glad you liked the video!👍
Trangia is cool and all, but aluminium is a pass for me. Not only for the pots. For most parts too. Making a fire underneath is an important backup. Personally I prefer everything stainless steel.
I’m pretty sure lead free gas (petrol in uk) can’t be used in a Trangia burner, in fact, it would be very dangerous!
YES IT WOULD! Absolutely under no circumstance should anyone ever use gasoline/petrol in an alcohol burner!
@@boonedockery7220 I’ve just had to listen a second time, I thought you had said you could use it in a Trangia, you actually were saying about using a Trangia bottle to store it. To someone who wasn’t familiar with trangia, it might have sounded as if you were suggesting it could be used in the burner.
@@Mat-kr1nf I certainly apologize for that! I will certainly be much more specific in the future! Thank you for bringing that to my attention Mat!
9:04 LMAO
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Thank You Peter!
Good info as always. Love getting your two cents. Could you shoot me an email if you still have my address. Would love to run somethings by you and would like first swing on gear you are wanting to get rid of.
You got it!
Quick question. If the Trangia cooking system uses pot, pans and kettles made from Aluminium then you are poisoning yourself with aluminium oxide. Even the non stick surface coating (Teflon) on the upmarket Trangia cookware is cancer causing, so are you aware of this?. Chiefs etc are not permitted to cook with Aluminium, copper or Teflon coating. Only Stainless steel, cast-iron or pure ceramic cookware can be used. My Trangia gear has been thrown out other than the burner and now I use the MSR stainless cooking gear. Love your videos
Thank you so much for your comment Mikey. I'll start off by telling you I am aware of the health risks associated with using aluminum and non-stick surface cookware. I am also aware that it takes many many years of exposure to chemicals and carcinogens to suffer (depending on individual genetic disposition) any ill affects of these hazards. I use this cook set rarely, perhaps several times in a year. I am not in anyway fearful of being harmed by my cookware.
Trangia now has a product line called Duossal. Stainless Steel on the inside and Aluminum on the outside. All the safety of stainless steel with less than half the weight. Even Esbit has a line of stainless steel cook sets.
Just to add this for anyone other than you that may read this, The Aluminum Oxide being released by any aluminum cookware is all contingent on the acidity level of what is being cooked or consumed. Furthermore the longer the contents rest in said cookware will also affect the amount of aluminum oxide. If you are boiling pasta, the amount is for all general purposes, non-existent. Tomato based pasta sauce, might be measurable on a minuscule level. Leave pasta sauce in an aluminum container for a couple weeks the amount increases. Nothing harmful unless you consumed high acid foods stored for long periods of time for many years. However, that being said, if you ate the pasta sauce from an aluminum container after two weeks, you would spit it out and throw it away as it would taint the flavor to the point it is unpalatable.
Mikey I do not mean to marginalize your concerns, as a matter of fact I applaud you for taking a stand and doing what is best for your health. I pray you have a long happy life!
Bare aluminium and non stick, both TOXIC.
Yes, over prolonged use. I do not use any of my aluminum / non-stick cookware enough to worry about it. It's my educated choice, to each their own. Thank you for posting your comment for those that are not aware of this.