Paul Simon said it best almost sixty years ago when he sang "....a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest..." That's certainly the world in which we live today...
In 1991, I was a featured speaker at the Fox portion of the Broadcast Promotion and Marketing Executives convention. News was still in development and as I had an interest in being a journalist I asked about our new direction. Woudl we become a member of the Fourth Estate.? I was told "We manufacture audiences for advertisers, nothing more, nothing less.
The fast food analogy is very accurate. I've been puzzled by Rogan's popularity for years now. It never made any sense to me. But then I realized that for a certain type of media consumers his show is probably considered deeply intellectual. Of course it's not. Most of it is just hot garbage. But I think it's scratches the intellectual curiosity itch for some people. Sort of like NPR for the uneducated. It makes them feel smart and informed but, just like fast food, it's really just hollow empty nonsense.
Rogan used to have actual good points. I was smoking, smoking weed, ate garbage, lived in a toxic relationship. And I felt like crap. Was Rogan who said it. That when you smoke, when you’re smoking too much weed or drinking too much, you’re eating garbage, you’re living a life you don’t want, that you’re filling your body with poison. By what right should you expect to feel good? And sometimes when you’re that down, when you’re that deep into your own troubles and trauma- you need someone to say it simple. I needed to hear it. And in five years time, I quit smoking, quit weed, started feeding myself- started loving myself. Got out of that bs marriage. All these years later? I thank Joe Rogan. For who he was at that moment. And I grieve a little for who he could have been.
I'm happy for you, that Rogan helped you. I remember before 2015, Rogan used to do more fluff pieces (I especially liked the death/medical historian episode) but they were factual and entertaining. Then it got so weird. Then it became alarming. Lots of people got lost down that alt-Right propaganda highway 😔
I dont get my information from Rogan or fox like i dont eat out of a toilet. But this shaming of these stupid people, didnt work. They voted. And here we are
It is true there was shaming going on . There were a lot of facts , warnings, and calling out the bullshit and blatant lies and hatred ,etc etc etc. that were blithely ignored . And so it goes .
@@BobSullivan-f4mplenty of shaming, but what was missing was any real push by Democrats to hit trump where it might matter. If I were Trump's opponent, very few wouldn't know the details surrounding his taxes. Why not hammer him hard where he is vulnerable? Why wasn't he prosecuted before the election? The people elected to office only care for their donors, and cover for each other. The oligarchy is already in full control
It didn't work yet. In the next few years, they'll face the moment when they're paying too much for gas or eggs, maybe see an "I did that" sticker with an orange face and realize they got took. That's when you have to hug them and whisper "we tried to fu(king tell you, a$$hole."
I don't know why anyone would equate Rogan or any number of shows on the air or internet as news. It's people talking and just because you can watch them it doesn't make them right or better or anything.
a lot of people let someone else do their thinking for them. Example: Your union supports the orange man, so that's how you vote. Do you think for yourself? Orange man hates unions? Nope. you vote 100% union.
I always saw Rogan as the devolution of talk radio. Like the next step after Howard Stern. The next step might just be a gorilla in a suit grunting at the audience while some blockhead spouts off even more nonsense. I keep hoping they’ll convince the audience to take long walks off short planks.
Here's the thing though. The left can (and should) make the same thing. I want to see easy to digest bits on left-leaning topics and make it entertaining. We need to have people like Studds Terkel, Upton Sinclair, and John Steinbeck but for the modern era. If those people exist, we need the algorithm to push those people to the forefront.
Going further with this analogy, I feel like there are plenty of good relatively healthy restaurants that became fast food junk joints. Churches and certain main stream news medias comes to mind.
Your AI needs to make Jordan Peterson sound more whiny. @friendlyjordies satire video of Jordan Peterson analyzing Toy Story is maybe the best impersonation I've heard.
Hold on. Rogan doesn't fact check his guests. So how can he know if anything they have "taught" him is correct, fact based, accurate, true. How can his audience know, either? Do they listen and agree with the guests because Rogan seems to accept as true whatever the guest is saying. What a moronic way to spend your time. Rogan's just a grifter. Grifters gonna grift. What is his listeners' excuse?
Paul Simon said it best almost sixty years ago when he sang "....a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest..." That's certainly the world in which we live today...
100% right.
And there are enough men who know that, and exploit it with those in power...
And 50 years ago, Frank Zappa warned us of the dumbing down of people in his song The Slime.
So true
"Zappa is weird.." 🙄😏
Yep!! Good stuff!! 👍
Can't help thinking "Free Will" 🤔😉😁
Be Well!! 😃❄️☃️
In 1991, I was a featured speaker at the Fox portion of the Broadcast Promotion and Marketing Executives convention. News was still in development and as I had an interest in being a journalist I asked about our new direction. Woudl we become a member of the Fourth Estate.? I was told "We manufacture audiences for advertisers, nothing more, nothing less.
Did anyone at that convention know about the Fairness Doctrine? It's abolishment gave birth to Fox News.
Joe Rogaine, what a joke.
More like Jorgan Roganson.
G
The fast food analogy is very accurate. I've been puzzled by Rogan's popularity for years now. It never made any sense to me. But then I realized that for a certain type of media consumers his show is probably considered deeply intellectual. Of course it's not. Most of it is just hot garbage. But I think it's scratches the intellectual curiosity itch for some people. Sort of like NPR for the uneducated. It makes them feel smart and informed but, just like fast food, it's really just hollow empty nonsense.
I'm sure his audience hasn't read any kind of book since they left school..
Rogan thinks he's an intelligent person. He didn't fact check himself!!
Don't underestimate the power of parasocial relatability and trust that long-form podcasting of the Joe Rogan variety can achieve with its audience.
Rogan exploits the Dunning-Kruger effect for fun and profit.
Hot garbage, yeah. That pretty much describes the Republican platform.
Rogan used to feed worms to contestants. Now he feeds worms to his audience. He still works for the fear factory.
Useless. And damaging.
Excellent point
Nailed it…. Infotainment, fast food for the mind…. We may be completely f’d
- not 'may' but are...
Rogan used to have actual good points.
I was smoking, smoking weed, ate garbage, lived in a toxic relationship. And I felt like crap.
Was Rogan who said it.
That when you smoke, when you’re smoking too much weed or drinking too much, you’re eating garbage, you’re living a life you don’t want, that you’re filling your body with poison. By what right should you expect to feel good? And sometimes when you’re that down, when you’re that deep into your own troubles and trauma- you need someone to say it simple.
I needed to hear it.
And in five years time, I quit smoking, quit weed, started feeding myself- started loving myself. Got out of that bs marriage.
All these years later? I thank Joe Rogan. For who he was at that moment. And I grieve a little for who he could have been.
I'm happy for you, that Rogan helped you. I remember before 2015, Rogan used to do more fluff pieces (I especially liked the death/medical historian episode) but they were factual and entertaining. Then it got so weird. Then it became alarming. Lots of people got lost down that alt-Right propaganda highway 😔
Thx DB, excellent analogy. Say what you want about fast food, but it may put the final nail in the ancient🍊💩's coffin. McDonald's® may save America.
But then Vance will destroy it.
Trump isn’t the real problem, trumpism and the people that pull the strings are
It’s too late for that, Vance will be worse than him..
Joe realized he could make money embodying his character from Newsradio. He is very mentally lazy.
... great point...
I don't think it's an act. He's really kinda limited.
Conservatives usually are.
And not too bright
@@daddee-zh2oycorrect
I dont get my information from Rogan or fox like i dont eat out of a toilet. But this shaming of these stupid people, didnt work. They voted. And here we are
It is true there was shaming going on . There were a lot of facts , warnings, and calling out the bullshit and blatant lies and hatred ,etc etc etc. that were blithely ignored . And so it goes .
@@BobSullivan-f4mplenty of shaming, but what was missing was any real push by Democrats to hit trump where it might matter. If I were Trump's opponent, very few wouldn't know the details surrounding his taxes. Why not hammer him hard where he is vulnerable? Why wasn't he prosecuted before the election? The people elected to office only care for their donors, and cover for each other. The oligarchy is already in full control
It didn't work yet. In the next few years, they'll face the moment when they're paying too much for gas or eggs, maybe see an "I did that" sticker with an orange face and realize they got took. That's when you have to hug them and whisper "we tried to fu(king tell you, a$$hole."
I don't know why anyone would equate Rogan or any number of shows on the air or internet as news. It's people talking and just because you can watch them it doesn't make them right or better or anything.
Wow 😳! Well said 😁!!!
a lot of people let someone else do their thinking for them. Example: Your union supports the orange man, so that's how you vote. Do you think for yourself? Orange man hates unions? Nope. you vote 100% union.
If the real Jordan Peterson spoke like this Jordan Peterson the world would be in a much better place.
McRogan... over 100,000,000 served😮😮😮😮😮😮
Well said!
I never understood the fascination with a man who doesn't give a crap whether or not he's actually correct when he says something.
His audience just blindly believes him
His audience are the exact same way…
I always saw Rogan as the devolution of talk radio. Like the next step after Howard Stern. The next step might just be a gorilla in a suit grunting at the audience while some blockhead spouts off even more nonsense. I keep hoping they’ll convince the audience to take long walks off short planks.
Rogan simply lets anyone one and gives them a very large and loud bullhorn to spout off on anything and everything.
I believe you have to pay to spout bs on his show
But I was told that MAGA's are not sheep? Least that is what I was told.
They just do whatever their propaganda tells them to
- Dunning-Kruger's a powerful drug..
That’s why I spell ewe instead of you when commenting to them. 😂
Which i always had trouble resolving with the fact that they worship a shepherd and are comforted by rods and staves.
This is perfect. Rogan is the Chick-fil-A of podcasts.
Did you mean Taco Bell?
Love how these plebs take Stoner Joe as fact.
Here's the thing though. The left can (and should) make the same thing. I want to see easy to digest bits on left-leaning topics and make it entertaining. We need to have people like Studds Terkel, Upton Sinclair, and John Steinbeck but for the modern era. If those people exist, we need the algorithm to push those people to the forefront.
This explains one of the reasons I hate when people try to manipulate each other
Going further with this analogy, I feel like there are plenty of good relatively healthy restaurants that became fast food junk joints. Churches and certain main stream news medias comes to mind.
Needs vs wants.
Have a happy please and thank you
These bro podcasts, remind me of the mid-afternoon bro radio talk shows from the early 2000s. I hated having 2 listen 2 that stuff at work.
Food for thought will give you a ulcer,
Trying to get groceries..
joe who ????
FJR and his Trumpet followers
Idiocracy is here and it's here to stay !! Sing that to Mel Brook The Inquisition.
Your AI needs to make Jordan Peterson sound more whiny. @friendlyjordies satire video of Jordan Peterson analyzing Toy Story is maybe the best impersonation I've heard.
So...Rogan is the same as MainStream Media? Interesting. Thanks.
FUXnoos, being the highest rated network, makes it mainstream media.
What if the little guy from Germany
Had the technology that we have
today. Is it possible that we might
be speaking German. A thought.
Hold on. Rogan doesn't fact check his guests. So how can he know if anything they have "taught" him is correct, fact based, accurate, true. How can his audience know, either? Do they listen and agree with the guests because Rogan seems to accept as true whatever the guest is saying. What a moronic way to spend your time. Rogan's just a grifter. Grifters gonna grift. What is his listeners' excuse?
Msg that is what makes fast food the way it is
Rogan should be in jail.....
I keep asking, which group focused on the sexiness of a candy mascot and at least the most prominent and largest hate group supports.
To me Rogan is like a lovable stumbling caveman. Uncle Joey on Full house.. but sadly folks take him to seriously.
I hate joe Rogan and I hate fast food.
Is the voice AI, or is the model because he just REALLY sounds like Peterson?
Has Jordan Peterson smashed his head on something and actually become smart?
Joe Rogan I such a sellout I doubt he has any integrity
Wait.. is this Jordan Peterson?
Satirical approximation
He's got to do something, he was a terrible actor. Only time he was believable was when he was being nasty to someone.
who is this person supposed to be?
They all do it, both left and right. I’ve seen both sides not fact check what they are talking about that day.