Wait, Dice Rolling Can be THIS good?! | Mr. House, President and CEO EDH Deck Tech | MTG X Fallout
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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Hey y'all! Got a chance to check out some of the Fallout commanders that were spoiled earlier this week and boy is there some gems here. Mr. House is the dice rolling commander we've all been waiting for. With the Win Con and temporary ramp built into the commander this is a perfect space for dice rolling decks to play in and I'm loving the flavor here as well. Hope you all enjoy :)
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Night shift of the living dead is also a good card since it generates tokens whenever you roll a 6 and lets you manipulate dice rolls
There's also "robot" tribal stuff that still has you rolling dice.
I was actually working on a boros dice deck recently using Wyll as the commander. Mr. House is a true gift to me.
I agree! I always loved the idea of a dice rolling deck but none of them seemed worth it, this guy is pretty sweet
Mr. House is actually a treasure commander as much as a dice rolling commander. 4 treasures per turn cycle translate to 1d6 dice roll per treasure. Many cards can produce a consistent income of treasures. On average, 1d20 produces .85 3/3 creatures and .75 treasures. On average 1d6 produces .5 3/3 creatures and .20 treasures. If the win condition is to overrun the table with 3/3s, 2D6 is equal value to 1d20 (taking into account the odds that the D20 probably produces a treasure which produces 1D6). Therefore, cards that produce consistent treasure production or spikes of treasures efficiently should be considered for the deck. The most efficient ways to untap the commander, such a drumbellower, unwinding clock, sting, and clock of omens also have a home in the deck, and are probably the key to this commander hitting that critical mass to close out games.
.85 .75 what does this mena
@@MrShazaamable means the average amount of treasures and robots made
To note, ignored dice rolls don’t trigger any abilities such as the most likely 3 from Iron Mastiff unless they changed any rulings since last I checked.
I do find it interesting that it’s pretty much how I expected a null green or blue dice roll deck to be built, but I am surprised you didn’t include any of the attraction makers that you have in black or any of the metal dragons (or just copper..). I have a janky 5c one myself, albeit being terrible at deck building.
Yeah I just never took the time to learn the attraction stuff, definitely throw them in if that’s your thing though haha. As for the dragons I usually build pretty budget decks so I don’t include them in my lists but if you’ve got them, definitely use them they are fantastic!
@@levisdeckbox Iron Mastiff is still a decent card, and one that I keep wanting to do with Delina with the issue being room cause I keep throwing shit into mine.
Nice vid! Very clear and the deck is quite budget friendly which I always like.
Also liked the idea of Mr. House and going heavy on D20 rolls for easier activation of the first ability. Cards I also considered would include Hoarding Ogre for a D20 roll + possibility of creating up to three treasure tokens and if you've got an extra $20-30 you could probably add something like Anointed Procession for double tokens 🤔
Oh definitely agree with the token doublers (and tripler with the new god from ixalan lol) I usually leave those upgrades up to the viewer and stick to the more budget side of building
Hoarding Ogre so good in limited, loved that card, excited to play it again in a dice deck.
I have brewed a similar deck to this, however it does run attractions which gives you a d6 die roll each turn at minimum
I would run Delina Wild Mage in this deck with the fact she synergizes too well with Wyll, Since Wyll is literally a Pixie guide in red and that can get out of hand with an undetermined infinite loop that you can choose when to stop it. On top of that, you get to also build up an army of robots and treasure with this. With Delina, as long as you keep rolling a 15 or higher, the loop continues
Those are some great additions! Appreciate the advice
Considering this is one of the commanders, you KNOW they're gonna add some at least decent cards with dice rolling on them. If Warhammer, LotR, and Doctor Who sets are anything to base expectations on this commander and his deck might single handedly make dice rolling a viable game plan.
Oh 100%, I’m sure there will be at least a few dice roll cards from this set which will make this deck that much better. Stoked to see the rest of the deck
Is worth remembering that Caesar is the base commander in the deck, Mr house is the secondary.
Still though, I'd find it crazy to NOT see anyone like victor or Jane to assist his mechanics in the same deck.
Sadly, they did not
Tried playing this with attractions and found them to be rather slow compared to just having more spells that give you dice rolls on demand, especially with d20s. I also found that running the white token doublers is excellent for mitigating effects that let you roll extra dice, but make you ignore the lowest roll.
Yeah I looked at them and they seem a little clunky. Haven’t tested the deck yet but it seems pretty viable without them. I’m glad you got the chance to play it!
Love this! I might add mirkwood bats also👍
Always a great addition!
Yes I know attractions are bad, but i just like the support, like "lifetime" pass holder and Discourtsy clerk
As long as you like them, that’s all that matters haha
okay so this is going to be like the opposite of zirda but you could always play suppression field once you've gotten plenty of treasures and then you're able to pay 2 more treasure to activate the ability. plus that applies to everyone so it works even better for you. i mean at the very least i'll be playing with it to add some more spice to my deck and make people think "Huh"
That is such a good idea, depending on your board state you can use either zirda early game or suppression field late game when you want more dice rolls! Great addition!
You talked about Celebr-8000 without talking about Clown Car, the superior unfinity card?!(I know both are in the deck)
Haha they are both pretty good! Just don’t want to clog up the video with samey cards 😂
LOVE THE DECK!! Do you have a list where budget is no issue? What do you recommend? (I plan on building this with all the expensive lands and artifacts for a high power deck)
Also, are attractions good for this deck? Do they make it more powerful?
Thank you! I don’t have many if any budget free builds on my channel cause I just don’t build that way. I haven’t really cared to learn the rules for attractions, they just seemed too out there for me, but a lot of comments have been saying they’re great for this deck so maybe check those out!
@@levisdeckbox thank you so much!! What lands would you recommend?
I mean if budget isn’t an issue I’d probably prioritize the battlebond lands like Luxury Suite, Savai Triome, shock lands like blood crypt, I like the pathways too. Not that any of these are necessary, I hardly run these in any decks, only if I’ve opened them in packs for the most part
This deck is lacking attractions if the aim is to maximize dice rolls. Free D6 roll every upkeep + additional benefit if the attractions go off from it.
So I’ve heard lol I’ve not looked at the attractions myself but maybe I should!
Damn, I basically have this entire deck except the commander
You can always proxy until the set comes out!
@@levisdeckbox Definitely. Working on other decks already so I may just wait though.
As busted as it would be, I think it would’ve made sense flavor-wise to give house eminence
Oh definitely, would’ve been cool but it would’ve had to be toned down lol
@@levisdeckbox for sure
I'm just here to say that "Jan Jansen" is pronounced "Yon Yonsen", per the voice work in Baldur's Gate 2 where he's from. Otherwise, this looks like a cool deck, and remember: the House always wins.
Haha good to know! Indeed the house always wins, and hopefully this deck does too 😁
How on earth are you going to make treasures in mardu?
Depends on your budget, you got dockside and couple of the draw spells in red make treasures, you got smothering tithe and monologue tax in white so there’s a few options, just gotta do the research haha
lol I was just being facetious, I have dockside and smothering tithe, I rarely put them in decks though. @@levisdeckbox
If you have barbarian Class and Wyll out and roll dice wont you basically roll three dice and only ignore one?
I believe that’s how it works, it does say one or more so I think they’d trigger off each other
Sadly no. You roll three dice, but you ignore *two*. It's to do with how replacement effects work. Basically, you apply one of them first to replace 'roll 1' with 'roll 2 drop 1', then you apply the other one to replace the roll 2 with 'roll 3 drop 1'. But you only replaced the 'roll 2', so once you've finished the 'roll 3 drop 1', you still have to do the second 'drop 1' using your two remaining dice. So it's 'roll 3, drop 1, drop 1 again', which is identical to 'roll 3 drop the lowest 2'.
@@TriangleChloros yes, I misread the original comment. Definitely only get the highest roll but you’re still rolling more dice which is better odds
I'm a little surprised looking through the decklist that *nothing* from the Attractions made it into this list. It's a die roll every turn.
Gonna be real with you, I don’t even know how attractions work 😂 not really my cup of tea but who knows maybe it would be a good addition to this deck!
@@levisdeckbox The card generates the attraction - a card like "Lifetime" Pass Holder, which does this on death.
The Attraction is drawn from the top of an Attractions deck (10 card minimun singleton separate deck from the main) and placed directly into play. It counts as an Artifact. On the card are six dots, at least two of which are lit. On your upkeep, roll a D6. If the result is one of the lit numbers, the Visit ability triggers.
They're a bit complicated, but basically stick one and you get a D6 roll every turn.
Is it common for play groups to consider coin flips to be 2 sided dice rolls? If so it opens up a lot of cards for the dice deck. I'm excited to see all the new dice roll cards that come out in this deck.
For Jan Jansen creature tutor, that's pretty much every black tutor that finds him lol I love Zirda it gives you a cheap way for infinite mana with Basalt monolith
I don’t think I’ve heard of coin flips triggering dice roll abilities but hey if you’re pod is cool with it lol. Yeah I was specifically thinking of creature tutors which are in green but all the black tutors could find any card lol. Personally I don’t like infinite combos, but if your playgroup doe, then that’s a pretty sweet include!
Saying your not sure how many creature tutors are in Mardu is so funny since it has black, y'know, the tutor anything color.
Yeah I don’t think those are very casual though haha I’d only run niche tutors if any at all
@@levisdeckbox Yo same, I've never been a fan of tutors, they lead to linear gameplay.
I just thought it was silly considering haha
Yeah it definitely was lol sometimes I completely forget about those crazy busted cards cause I would never play them
Audio is low. Can barely hear you.
It’s just fine on my end, could be the headphones you’re using?
@@levisdeckbox Can confirm the issue is not on your side 👍 Love the deck by the way! If I lose, it's definitely the dice's fault...