Watch Wrong? #1 - Vintage Omega watch issues, Can you spot them!?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2018
- This is the first video for my new series called "Watch Wrong?"
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Wow, harder than buying a car. Thank you for this, very informative!
You're very welcome. Best to watch my other video on "best online video on buying your first vintage watch".
Great work! Looking forward to watch the next videos.
looking forward to more!! you are very well versed in omegas :D
Will have more in the future. Just needed to spend some time to hunt for more examples. As always, never rush into buying a vintage timepiece until you are 100% confident. And not every so called "experts" are really experts.
Great video! I wouldn’t have noticed most of these issues. As someone looking to buy my first Vintage Omega with little knowledge, I’m scared to death but wiser for it!
How did it go? I'm in the same shoes.
Avid Aviator still haven’t bought one... lol
@@rbeneveds any luck since ?
I love vintage omega watches but I still do not dare to buy them too!
@@androidaccount7743you’re missing out. Definitely worth the time/money investment
Incredibly helpful, thanks for making this! Would love if you made more.
Will definitely make more of these videos. Hopefully a new one soon!
Good stuff, shows me I know so very little!
Great job!! Thanks for your precious videos💪🏻🙏🏻
Great idea. Keep them coming, the more examples & brands the better!
There is a part two. :-) Unfortunately, I will only focus on vintage Omega. But many of the examples in the video will help you with other brands as well.
Your knowledge and expertise is amazing!!!
It didn't happen in a day. haha
Extremely useful for notices like me who wants to get into vintage Omega watches. Thanks for sharing experiences which to me is priceless.
Glad to hear that. :-)
Should watch my other "watch wrong" videos to learn more!
Very helpful and educational video!
Thank you! I produce more in the future!
Great job Omega Enthusiast. Very interesting and informative video. Looking forward to seeing more.
Thank you! Definitely more to come. But please bare with me for now as I am much too busy preparing watches for sale on my site. Xmas is around the corner.
Thank you for the informative video.
Please do more of these !
You can go through my “watch wrong” and “daily watch wrong” playlists to view more.
Great video! Extremely informative please make more :)
I love what you’re doing. Please keep it up.
your video is very informative. appreciate your effort & knowledge.
Excellent tutorial! Please make some more, thank you
A much longer one is on its way. :-)
Great video! I'm just getting into watches and vintage Omega and am learning before purchasing. This is a big help! I'd love to see more on spotting redials.
You should go through my entire "watch wrong" and daily watch wrong playlists
I really liked this video, thank you for it. All my 7 Omegas are luckily perfectly fine.
Thank you! That's good to hear! I'll continue to make more of these videos!
great.... this video helps you to pay attention to details. Thnx
Keep adding to this new format please. Very helpful and fun to view.
Will do! need sometime to find examples. :-)
Super educative one since I was looking for videos like this. Please produce more when time permits you....
Check channel playlists. Many to watch.
Excellent video, very educational on details that are easy to miss. Thank you.
Thank you for the comment! There are many more videos like this on the channel. 😉
Very educational and informative and assists greatly. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! Always happy to hear when my viewers are learning from my videos.
Really enjoyed watch wrong. Would like to see more please. Thanks.
I'm sure more will come in the future!
Looking for an vintage omega atm, this vid/series helps :) THX!
I am very glad that this video has helped. :-) - can always visit my site if you're looking for a professionally serviced Omega. www.omegaenthusiast.com
Hello from Los Angeles Ca Sao !!! My family and I love you job !!! Omega it’s my favorite brand !!! My son and I have a small collection of omegas (5 watches) he is 15 year old and he love your videos... good bless you man ! 🇺🇸🇲🇽🇨🇦🇸🇻
Thank you for you and your family support! Will continue to make great content.
Wow. I had no idea. Please make more!
There is a part 2. :-)
And part 3 is in process
very helpful but also scary and eye opening for a novice like myself looking to buy a vintage watch. thanks for the words of caution
watch my latest video soon! It will take your scares away! Or you can always purchase a watch on my site. You'll not need to worry anymore.
Enjoyed the video!
Extremely helpful thanks!
Amazing video.
very interesting!
Great video. Thanks. I feel smarter! 🤓
You're welcome! I hope you feel smarter too! :-P
Very informative video. I have learned that you must be an expert to buy a vintage watch in original conditions.
Thank you! These are quite basic to intermediate. The more difficult stuff will be able to determine a redial. Some dial makers are very good at what they do.
Great info, loved every minute of it 👌👌
Thank you and very happy to hear that!
Great way to teach ! 🙏🏻
Hope you get the credit and hits for a awesome informative video 👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻🏴
Enjoyed this video 🙂
Great video
very informative, please elaborate more on your findings.
Thank you! Maybe I can show less examples in the future and can elaborate more that way.
Great video and the issues with the watches were clearly explained. It was a fun lesson. Please, keep up the good work.
Thank you! Will do!
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Plus, I love the play on words Watch Wrong? That's pretty funny! LOL
haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel ?. Do you sell omega watches. Thanks
Yes I do, www.omegaenthusiastltd.com
Great video please make more
Thank you! You can always watch similar videos in my channel's playlist under the "watch wrong" and "daily watch wrong" content.
Good video man, I've been considering an omega lately
Hope you will find one soon! :-)
your in dept knowledge about Omega is astonishing, maybe Omega themselves dont know that much when it comes to vintage watches. in the watch that is showing the mechanism parts, i notice that the crown doesn't seem to be an Omega crown...never seen a pointy before...anyway, amazing videos, thanks for uploading and sharing with us
Great video. Really helpful. It would be good have a correct example as an after photo - for comparison
Thank you Chris! Maybe if I have more time in the future I'll include proper example.
Cool video, do more of these in the future for sure!
Will do! There is actually a part two. Will get a part three done later on. :-)
I noticed that shortly after watching this video. Haven't had a chance to watch them yet, but I will soon.@@TimelessHistoryChannel
@@augiedoggie :-)
Very helpful thanks! one question, do all Vintage Seamaster models with plexi/hesalite glass have a small Omega logo in the middle? btw i own a Omega Seamaster 600 (1965)
Only the original crystal will have the little logo in the center. But fitting a generic without one is totally fine as long as the size is correct.
Wow! That was tough but thoroughly enjoyable. I wonder if Omega have a running total of the number of watches ever made by them?
Well, the movement serial number indicate production number. So a movement number 16,354,675 tells you this watch is production number 16million 3hundred fifty four and six hundred seventy five unit.
Very nice informeioin
That was fascinating
Im from kuwait and my first watch is omega over thirty years i like to have clean omega hand winding watch... thank you
This was awesome, I didn't do well... but I enjoyed it
It's all good my friend. You should watch the other videos on the "watch wrong" playlist
Thank you for this.
You're more than welcome!
Hey, just watched Apollo 13 movie. The line by the flight director just before he says "Failure is not an option" was "Not on my watch!"
Must have been wearing a Rolex 😁
Since I watched this, I could spot at least one missing screw in an Omega movement :D
That's just the start! Keep it up! Great stuff! :-D
Thanks for your videos !
As I'm not an expert as you regarding these vintage Omega, how can I learn to spot the issues on the watches ? There are lot of different versions of the same model so I'm wondering if it is possible to be 'sure' or at least confident that the watch and the parts are original ... Thank you
Hi there, it will take years to become an expert. It is something that you'll need to study on your own and keep it up day after day. At the moment, I can only produce these videos to help educate everyone the basic. Best is to buy a timepiece off somebody who really know their Omega and you'll be safe.
Question would a 1966 Seamaster crosshair have a caliber 563 in the watch? I’m thinking of purchasing this watch but I have my concerns.
Yes, why not? 563 is quick set which was first introduced in the mid 60s. But I think you should be more concern about the dial whether it is factory original finish or a redial.
wow this video is amazing, thank you for the educational lesson.
On another note, if I send you an email with pics from a watch could you please tell me if it is all original Omega Geneve? I am about to buy one but having someone that knows a lot taking a second look will help greatly.
Your message when to my spam folder for some reason. Unfortunately, due to my extremely busy schedule working on watch repair and selling on my site. The best place to ask questions regards to vintage Omega is on the Omega forums. :-)
Nice...I pushed the subscribe button...make it more and I’ll stay
Thank you!
bare with me for now as I am much too busy preparing for my site update (xmas is just around the corner), but this channel will have more videos. That's a promise.
Sir I have a query. I own a vintage seamster gifted to me by my dad. What questions me is why is this watch was not added with water resistant feature. I had to to inform the service company to specially help me with giving customised water resistant facility.
Thank you for this information. Very helpful. More importantly, can you fix those problems? Can you setup a paid service where we send you pictures of our watches for you to provide an expertise/opinion? Thanks, Daniel
Hi Daniel, certain issue such as dial refinish cannot be fix. Unfortunately, due to my busy schedule I really do not have time to sit and answer questions. That's why I am producing these youtube videos to help educate people.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Fair enough, I understand. I own 16 vintages Omegas that I feel are in good shape. But your videos make me doubt. Do you offer watch service and expertise? Could I ship my watches to you to get a service and an appreciation of their real state and value? Thanks for your reply! Daniel
Hi Daniel, unfortunately, I do not provide such services. :-( I get these requests all the time, but my full time job running my business takes up a lot of my time. I'll try to produce more of these videos to educate people. That's the best that I can do to help everyone to become a smarter buyer.
I want more issues......we are learning about details.
There is a whole playlist of these videos if you go through my channel
Excelente información,saludos desde Tampico Tamaulipas México
Thanks. Like your example of a good spring vs. a worn out spring, it would have been good to see good vs poor examples. I'm still not sure what a missing bezel or complete with bezel should look like. Off to do more research. I'm not an Omega aficionado but your video was a helpful starting point.
You're welcome. Well, basically, these educational videos are there to guide and to remind you to thoroughly examine your watches prior to buying them. It would take me forever to make a video if I provide comparison of with and without bezel. There are too many models that come with removable type bezel and they are not the same in appearances. Therefore, focus on one specific model that you like and learn as much as you can about it prior to buying one.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thanks for your reply. I completely understand and empathise. Making and editing videos is a lengthy process and of course there is also something more.... Huge respect. Good advice. Thanks.
Thank you for your understanding my friend.
I have a gold omega with large letters in a gold tank my grandfather gabe it to me before he died 30 years ago. Will u help me find out what it is and how much its worth?
Cool video, i have a Omega Constellation 168.019 with rare Linen dial for Sale :)
I really like this video about Omega watches. I have one omega sea master given to me by grand parent. Its old watch. How much it will be cost and where I can get it checked.
You can always make a post on the Omega forum and I’m sure someone there will be able to assist you.
I enjoyed the video. To avoid the issues I'll just get my classic Omega from you.
Haha, thank you! But there is no need to only buy a watch off me. You can buy a vintage Omega from anyone. Best to take your time and educate yourself first prior to buying anything.
Omega Enthusiast I truly wish I could do that but it is obvious that you have spent many many years studying is and have seen thousands of watches. Except for a few of the more obvious flaws I will never be able to tell there’s more subtle red flags. For me, the best solution would be very very careful who I bought the watch from as I would never know the difference.
Hi Im wondering if you ever consider publishing a book of vintage Omegas?.. thank you
Hi, I wish I have the time to do that. But it may take forever for me to complete one due to my business schedule.
Sssh!! You guys are making vintage Omega watches expensive! at 04:42 I see three issues. Strap isn't sitting right at six oc'clock position, Bezel missing as you said and finally that crown isn't fitting properly. To far out from the case. Badly replaced stem? Dodgy crown? Something not right and it sure as hell won't resist water stuck out like that! Good vid man and an enjoyable game
Thankyou very interesting I only got two right I do collect watches but mainly Seiko dive watches but I would love to hv ay Omega watch but in New Zealander thy are expensive and not many available.Thanks again man
Thank you for the comment. I hope you will find an Omega in the near future. I've had a few clients from New Zealand in the past. :-)
Just picked up a vintage 2867-4, someone replaced the crown and I'm trying to figure out which crown should be on it. I know it's a clover crown but no idea of the size. It's a 38mm case and can't find much info about these. Any idea on what size crown I should be looking for?
There is only one diameter for a clover crown.
On that first one. What indexes are you saying? Is this true for all vintage omegas with luminous hands? I'm thinking of buying a vintage omega but it has luminous hands but I'm not sure what else is supposed to be luminous for it to be genuine.
Any correct vintage omega with lumed hands will also have lume on the dial. The same goes for hands without lume there will be none on the dial. If you find either, the hands have most likely been replaced.
Hi! Can you help identify my omega vintage watch based on a photo? Thanks.
Thanks I am an Omega fan and will continue to subscribe to your channel. Do you look at subscriber watches and I am the owner of my fathers Seamaster and I am curious to find out the calibre 565 ?? .
This message somehow went to spam file. Unfortunately, due to my busy schedule and the constant mass amount of messages I cannot help everyone. The best place to ask questions would be the Omega forums.
Hi - bought an omega 471 - crown is not signed and the second hand is red - are either one of these original to this watch - thanks for reply - Ken
Hi Ken, sounds like either of them are correct. 471 should come with signed crown. But best to judge a watch when there is a photo to look at.
Hi, I recently purchased a Seamaster ck 2846 -4-sc supposedly a caliber 501 from1956. The watch works well and keeps proper time but when I opened the caseback to check the movement (comparing it with an internet photo of a caliber 501) I found that the "501" engraving was missing in the movement... and that the engravings in the rotor were "17 jewels unadjusted" whereas in the picture from internet was "20 jewels" (not mentioning being unadjusted)... I guess that the rotor and the piece bearing the "501" were substituted for another compatible piece (maybe not omega)... my question is if you know of any other case like this and also how this affects to the value of the watch. thnaks very much for an answer... and keep the good (omega) content!!!
Hi Alberto,
To me it sounds like you have purchased a married/franken watch. Omega caliber 501 should appear on the movement. Here is the difference between caliber 500 and 501. 500 caliber will appear on the train bridge where the wheels are located and the automatic bridge will be blank and the automatic weight will say 17 jewels. 501 caliber will NOT appear on the train bridge, but it will appear on the automatic bridge instead and will say 19/20 jewels on the automatic weight. Therefore, on your watch watch you have the main portion of the movement as a caliber 501 and the automatic system including weight to be from caliber 500. I do not appraise watches.
I got one: the cracked case one!
I'm extremely proud of myself
@JP JP and you are a low quality individual. You're entitled to your opinion on the watches, but starting by calling someone an asshole because of their affinity for something you don't like just shows what type of person you are.
Also, why check a video out on a channel by "Omega Enthusiast" if you clearly hate the brand?
JP JP you realize most luxury brands uses ETA movements, and that company is an Omega sister from Swatch group right? Even Patek, Breitling, Longines... these should be low quality for you.
I felt like watching dora the explorer but for smart people
OMG,WENT TOO YOUR WEB SIGHT, SO MANY VINTAGE OMEGA'S, JUST BOUGHT A 1958 2846 SEAMASTER 2 TONE DIAL AND GF ,WOULD YOU KNOW THE PART# FOR A CLOVER LEAF CROWN, AND
COULD YOU TELL ME IS IT POSSABLE TO CLEAN A DIAL WITH A FEW DARK AGE SPOTS WITHOUT DAMAGE TO THE DIAL. THANKS
You can try ordering it on www.ofrei.com
Hey man i found an omega watch at a thrift store but it doesn’t say omega on ghe screen at all only the design that’s it can it be real by any chance
The dial font may have aged away is a possibility.
Hi. I own a 1961 Omega Seamaster 14701 and am looking for a beads of rice bracelet for it. Do you know where to buy one?
Your best bet is probably on eBay whenever one pops up. Good luck!
Please help bro: I saw “automatic” letter font in a more cursive type, it is a fake?
Best to examine from a photo.
Great
Hi i have a vintage constellation with day and date. Is it scarce?
Cheers from south africa
Hi, it is not scarce. They were first introduced in the late 1960s.
Very interesting. But what I want to know is how to find a proper dial for my '56 Seamaster that an unscrupulous watchmaker replaced the dial with a generic Omega dial.
Good luck on that my friend. Finding a genuine dial to replace is not as easy as you may think it is.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Oh, I know it's going to be essentially impossible.
Is there any reference for vintage omega online with pics of model number and watch
unfortunately no.
Hi, in your opinion which is the most reliable place to purchase vintage omega models?
You can always visit my site for many selection. Or support me on Patreon and if you find something that you like elsewhere, you can always message me there to ask for my opinion.
hi i just found my dads old omega watch which he bought in the 1990s and he said when he purchased it it was a vintage. can i send you pictures so that maybe you could give you opinion on is it fake or not?
Too modern for me bud. Sorry about that. Don't want to give you false information on something I am not very familiar with.
How would you go about finding a good omega repair company.
Honestly, that is something that you may need to ask around from other Omega collectors such as those on the Omega forum or on Facebook. Hopefully someone can refer you to someone local or domestic within your country. I do all the restoration work myself so I would not know who is reliable. Make sure whoever that is doing your job needs to know the following. 1. No case polishing. 2. No dial refinishing 3. No hand removing and 4. No removing of one luminous to replace with new one.
Nice, but as a noob I dont know how to match all the case numbers you mention. So it would help if you would clarify/educate us more where you found the numbers and how to match them to the case or the mechanism. Thanks ;)
Thank you for your comment. This was my first "watch wrong" video. If you visit my channel's playlist and watch the later-made episode, I provide a comparison showing what the correct version should look like. But with that said, you must understand that Omega made gazillion models in the past, and each model came with many different dials and even hand variations. If you are planning to buy a watch and have no clue where to start, I recommend you watch this video first: ruclips.net/video/pW6uKYuCkJc/видео.html
If you're new to the hobby, I suggest you not rush-hint: Most dealers who call themselves expert or reputable are not always trustworthy.
Can you explain redials. Obviously if a dial is replaced with a different model dial that’s a problem. However if Omega replaces the original dial with the same model dial then that should not be a problem. Am I correct ? Do redials include repainting or professionally cleaning the original dial ? If the redial is accurately replaced or repainted , does that devalue the the watch ? Thank you
Redial or Refinished dial or restored dial all mean the same thing. A redial means the factory original finish of the dial has been completely removed. New paint, plating, and printing have been applied back onto the dial. This will take away the value of the watch. And since majority of watch collectors do not want a redial the value depreciation can be quite a bit.
Thanks for clarification. I can see why a purist would not want to strip down the dial and redo it. Do some watch companies have new original replacement dials ready to go ?
@@nelsona.7950 You're welcome. Unfortunately, if you send your watch to an authorized dealer nowadays they will send it off to get it redial as well. And regardless of how professional it is done, a specialist will still be able to tell.
I found a 1965 Omega Seamaster in a watch grab bag at a salvation army. I paid 40 dollars!
just to clear things up, are you saying omega do not stamp anything with their logo or just gold? ive seen cases stamped inside with dennison and omega. i thought these were legit? i dont know, so any info would be great, thanks
Are you referring to the fake solid gold piece? If so, I am pointing out that this case is fake due to the hallmark and solid gold stamps are both located on the outside of the case back. Original Omega hallmark is located inside of the case back not outside.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel oh ok, thanks for commenting! im learning about vintage omega everyday. keep up the good work!
You're very welcome. My suggestion is best to learn by model to model. This is the best way to build up your knowledge. If you are trying to learn everything all at once it will be too much to take in since there are just too many vintage Omega model out there.
Kind regards
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thanks mate! i have just bought a watch from ebay and im struggling to find out what it exactly is. it wasnt expensive and its in pretty good condition. could i send you some photos of the watch?
Can you value an omega constellation vintage for me
Sorry, but I do not appraise watches. The price of a vintage watch vary from the seller. I charge my watches according to my time and labour, fees, condition, and the lifetime special warranty that I provide which you can read about on my site.
This is terrifying, I am now positive that I will end up buying at the very least a re dial.
do not think that way. Take your time to learn and understand what you want to buy before spending your hard earn money. There are many factory original finish dial out there.
damn.. due to this video I just noticed the bezel of a constellation pie pan is missing. Was just given as family legacy. Still beautiful
looks like it was common for watch repair ppl to "keep some parts" when servicing watches... jaja
I'm just starting to look at vintage Omega watches. I've only purchased one vintage watch ever and it certainly was NOT on the level of an Omega (It was a 1961 Timex Marlin). On this video I wished you would have shown what the watch should have looked like on ALL the instances you showed. I know this is two years old and maybe you've corrected that already. If so, I apologize. Which models of Omega would you recommend and should I go through a reputable dealer or buy on Ebay?
Yes, that is correct. If you watch all of my latest watch wrong and daily watch wrong series, I do include an image of what it should look like. You should go through my videos. Watch this one:
ruclips.net/video/pW6uKYuCkJc/видео.html
Got my eyes on a nice De Ville!