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Japan apparently doesn't recognize the existence of Wales
Ironic since they hunt them
@@prismaticc_abyssdidn’t know they hunted dragons
I know you meant the sea creatures
Tbh neither do i. Weird ass name. At least it's not colorado
@@Averybritishbear You didn’t, you’re lying to cover your mistakes. I’m on to you
Neither does Britain tbh
Mario Mario moment
First name mario last name mario?
Because that priest has a million command seals for some reason.
Peak spotted
Luigi mario
@@evoction Seigi no mikata spotted
CDawgKona
KDawg
Kona Dawg VA
Kona doggu bi ei
CDawgコナ
コDawgVA
japan: living in the future with AL and robots and stuff
also japan: living in the feudal era when it comes anything government and paperwork
Japan has been living in the year 2000 for the past 40 years.
@@mfaizsyahmi Math isn't mathing.
@@Sh0ckWolf math is very much mathing. It used to be 20 years in the future, over time changed all the way to 20 years in the past
As someone living in Japan, I agree that it's stuck in the year 2000, most of it anyway, technologically it's dead, medicine is dead, robots and stuff, dead, games? Dead, currency is dead, the only redeeming quality is that you won't be robbed (besides umbrellas and girl's underwear).
@@AnotherJunji Designated smoking zones sound nice too. But I don't live in Japan so I of course don't know the whole situation
First name Mario last name Mario. Truly a lancer moment
Bite me, Bite Me.
Is it Irelands faithful dog cu chulame
Fo shizzle
Okay Actually Satan
@@TheFi3ndyou mean the famous Italian spearman Cu Chulame
Reminds me of the post I saw of someone named Wu being denied an application form because their name needed to be 3 characters long lol
as an Ng, I know that pain.
bruh, i bet all chinese names are 1 letter long
I think his name in katakana/hiragana is コフーン. Japanese names don't use the "ー" character, so his name is rejected. Maybe he should try "コフン."
Imagine English websites just saying "nah bruh you can't have an e in your name"
興奮
@@adalexander123 it’s more like requiring you use an e instead of é. The line just lengthens the vowel
@@spelcheakWhich is also horrible design, because without the diacritics it’s not the same name.
@DerMBen I'm pretty sure a lot of websites would reject é and make you put e.
First name Mario, last name Mario
funny i took you for the great Italians spearman cú chelame
Middle name Jumpman
@@trinityharrison939That's his dad
Vaguely reminded of a guy with a two-character last name complaining about running into a character limit problem when trying to sign up for something.
It was a serious and recurring problem for people with two letter (usually Chinese) names living in the US/UK for a solid five years or so. Especially in college/university enrollment.
I had a Korean professor whose legal last name was just “O.” Most websites rejected it thinking it was an initial.
@@TheQuark6789yeah that's why it's usually "Oh", and for "이" it's commonly romanized as "Lee" or "Yi"
I got referred to 5 different departments trying to fix an issue where my uni profile refuses to recognise the latter half of my name (my legal given name is separated by a space)
@@kirachandesuuNo wonder there are a million Lees
Feel ya. I have an umlaut in my last name and whenever I try to book anything in the US online, a red text pops up that says: "Please enter a valid name."
That’s what you get for having a name written in the devils tongue lol
I know a guy who was’t allowed to use his name on his PSN account.
His name was “Jihad” ( which is a legitimate name in Arabic - means “struggle” )
so .. same goes for English speaking services I guess.
Kid named crusades
"Name isn't real enough" and "name that's in the list of blacklisted naughty words" are two different issues though
Kind of rude to call a legit name a naughty word, unless im interpreting this wrong@@Strawation
@@NAiRAYR rude or not, it's a fact. It's in a lot of games' list of words to censor. I'm surprised you haven't encountered it before. It's common knowledge that the people who come up with the lists are all a little slow in the head and sheltered. If something has even the slightest bit negative meaning, even if it's some archaic word from the 50s, there's a high chance of it'll end up on that list.
@@NAiRAYR
It's a regular word and a valid name
But it's also what groups like al queda call their activities
Don't know how many will need this information but if you are typing in Japanese on Windows and you need half-width katakana you can right-click on the language icon (marked by A あ or カ depending on what you're typing at that moment) down in the bottom right and switch to half-width katakana.
They are also bound to F keys
To be fair, dealing with names remains one of the hardest problems in computer science, right next to coming up with names
MOOD lmao that's like when you have a hyphenated last name in America and even official government websites will be like "no special characters allowed!" and I'm like brother that is my NAME
My father's name was changed to a given name and a surname when in America.
Mind you, he doesn't have a surname(at least, I don't think it makes sense for it to be)
The three words that make his name are his birth name.
We simply use the first part of his given name as a surname(patronymic).
KonaKona Colquhoun
Lol this message has a "Translate to English" link below it for me
I can't use my surname right in most Intl websites because it uses a "ç" which is a letter used in latin languages like portuguese, I hate it sm
There’s a short cut for that ç is alt+0231, and Ç is alt+0199.
@@YousifzzzI don't think he's having trouble typing it. It's most likely the websites that refuse it as it's not an English character.
@@kayhadrin Yep that's it!
Korea does this too. It's beyond frustrating. There's a character limit on some sites. You can't enter your full name and then it says it doesn't match the name on your card. Other times you find out you can only do all caps or not use any caps. lol
Was setting up security questions for my work pc and one of the questions was "whats your favourite colour?" So i put red only to be told it needed to be longer than 3 characters. So apparently red isn't a valid favourite colour
How rude of it not accepting red as a valid colour! I suppose that you could pick a word that describes a shade of red, such as Sanguine (blood red) or Vermilion (usually associated with Phoenix as it is a cinnabar red-orange).
@@darbonhunter think my response was "fuck you, I'll just pick blue then" 😂
I'm guessing that anything less than 3 characters is just too easy to brute force
@kasocool2812 Haha, an understandable response 🤣
But yes, the combination possibilities get exponentially larger with each character added. 4 characters (with case sensitive letters, numbers) have nearly 7.5 million possible passwords. 3 characters only get you 4,680 possible passwords if you use both letters and numbers. The jump between 3 and 4 is quite significant.
lol yup, FYI web developers, a name field should ALWAYS just be an open text field. Not even lastname/firstname is ok as some people don’t have two names or don’t know which one to put first if you’re from a country where they typically put the last name first, etc. Just _let people type their names how they like_. It’s less work too.
It gets tricky when the business requirements want to be able to address someone with varying levels of formality. e.g. given name vs title and family name.
I think the closest you can get to universal support there is to ask for "given name" (not first) and "family name", allow anything to be put in either, and allow the family name to be left empty - which you then need to handle in the rest of the software.
I completely agree with you but last name, first name isn’t the linguistic term. Each culture has their own conventions on what is their first and last name, so you have to use actual specific words to make it easier to understand.
It’s very simple-you choose your surname and given name. If websites don’t understand that, it’s not our fault.
@@Aethid yep, not everyone have middle name, not every culture has family names. And even not every culture always use given names. (including ancient, I don't know do we have any example now or not, but there was at least one example in history).
So I guess the 4 correct ways to do something will be
1) just providing a required text field without limitations.
2) write every thing people have in use with just limit that everything can't be empty at the same time
3) make localised versions
4) just put some fields like
"legal name", "how to address you in such and such style" and let user choose.
DO NOT DO THIS.
Web devs, please ffs SANITISE YOUR USER INPUTS.
We don't need more SQL injection and exploitation of parsing libraries flaws in cool new 0days
@@csharpcoffee If you are getting SQL injection from a user input, then you badly fucked up elsewhere. User strings should be able to contain anything without breaking your program.
As someone whose name always gets the red squiggle under it, I feel this.
I once had a job where I had to write an algorithm that would discard text that wasn't part of a proper name. I resigned a week later.
Sorry, that makes it sound like I quit because I couldn't do it, but no, I quit because I just couldn't believe how dumb it was to try and filter a list of things that may or may not be names. Some very common names in one language are swear words in another, and the word for Doctor in another. Some names have mixed casing, like McDonald. Some names are one letter long.
This reminds me of websites that try to heavily filter what emails you are allowed to enter to sign up, so if you use a custom domain, or just anything that isn't by Google, Microsoft, etc, then they just won't let you sign up.
Frickin' McDonald's app! 🤬
and here we thought Unicode would be universal and solved this problem.
LOL, like the backend was written after 1979.
@@StopTryingSoHard ah, government IT projects. it's depressing if true.
Probably still Shift JIS
It's worth remembering that UTF-8 is biased towards making it easier to encode ASCII for pretty much the exact same reason that Japanese websites will likely be using the different character sets on their end; UTF-8 was designed to be compatible with ASCII tools as much as possible.
@@ZT1ST true, but there is also UTF-16 which was designed to be totally universal.
You guys talk about this like it only just happened to you for the first time. This happens to me on a weekly basis, and I havent even been in Japan that long. I'll never forget one of my first weeks in Japan, being told by the lady at the post office that I spelled my name wrong. I was so done. 😂
So I have had this exact same experience in America because my last name is hyphenated. There are some websites (I wasn’t allowed to sign up for pre testing for my university under my legal name) that just have an aneurysm if you enter a hyphen even though my legal last name is hyphenated.
My first name is 5 letters and two of those don't exist in Japanese, also my last name is "van *****" so that add another level of fuckery and I have the easier name, girlfriend has 2 middle names and is "van den ******" her name in full is 50+ characters, no Japanese form is made for that shit.
Dutch
Connor's media takes are all universally trash but man i have not disagreed once on his stances on japanese society and what its like for a foreigner to live there lmao
I mean it _is_ the trash taste podcast
@@blablabla798 ABSOLUTE CINEMA
"Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names" should genuinely be required reading for every programmer
I had to google translate my name to furikana when I wanted to sign up to get my oiran makeup done. It was quite confusing to navigate
holy crap ! that is what that means !? I never could figure out what half width and full width meant omg!
English and European online forms don’t let me put my full name because it goes over the character limit. There are usually engineering reasons for stuff like this. Still always sucks when a machine tells you your name does not exist or isn’t valid.
Same issues in Korea, but for different reasons
As a web designer, im sorry. This is laziness due to just using some library default for data verification. Drives me ballistic when a US website has a "country" dropdown for Shipping Address and i fill everything out and then the postal code gives an error because the programmer is using USA zipcode data to validate (5 digits like 33166) only so a Canadian postal code (M3C 2H4) isnt accepted. Makes me so angryyy.
English speaking websites freak the heck out over the apostrophe in my last name . this is especially frustraiting when it comes to the UK government website where they have colonised at least two countries where the " O' " prefic is super common
I expect it's a character limit problem. Full-width & half-width is not really about the character size, it's the size in bytes. To type Kanji it requires a double-byte character where roman letters are single byte - hiragana and katakana can be either one. What confuses me is why they still use systems that distinguish between them, it should be trivial to convert between one and the other, and text strings are of trivial size on modern hardware. so character limits make no sense. I usually had problems because I have two middle names and they do love to *insist* on "full name" on official paperwork (as well as making me write the date, what' up with that?).
i understand this pain deep down. English spellcheck/autocorrect refuses to acknowledge my last name's existence
Don't these companies know people with foreign or uncommon names exist?
It's like Facebook not accepting my name, "Vision" cause it thinks it's a word
Did you take that name?
I have a very short surname, some websites won't let me use it, thinking I'm abbreviating something.
Like the african guy named Obu O. Obu and his middle name is Obu named by his father Obu
Happens all the time to people who have swears in their name. Might be the case here.
reminds me of the guy whose username was nasser, but the game censored the word "ass" and made it look worse
@@damond4346How on earth does that even happen?
They may as well censor legit nicknames like Dick.
"enter name"
"wrong answer"
I love the 2 other dudes pitching in to show they know the names of Japanese writing systems at the beginning
had this when trying to set up my internet and finally figured out after wasting so much time that it would only take my english name in all caps
I've noticed it years ago - Japanese are extremely (extremely) good when it comes to hardware, but anything software related is complete and utter garbage, it's astonishing. Websites? Crap. Apps? Crap. Videogames? Not crap, but very technically clunky, especially anything that has to do with UI and UX.
Kona tanaka
It took years before my actual last name was accepted in websites (in america where I was born and currently live) as a real name.
Japan is 100 years behind about administration and foreigner immigrants paperwork requirements XD
I can understand they want to limit immigration, but, at least, don't make it impossible for those meeting your requirements XD
This was about final fantasy 14 lmao
I've heard from English speaking expats that the best bet for these situations is to use your middle name instead of your last name since most people's middle name in english are just another first name.
Also if it's official it's essier to explain the mistake to someone if you are still using one of your legal names
what if you don't have a middle name though
lol just call them immigrants not expats
also only people from/descended from western europe have middle names, and even then it isn't all of them
"expat"
They're immigrants. That doesn't change just because they're white.
@@autismspiritTo be fair for many foreigners living outside their country immigrant doesnt work well because it implies they are seeking permanent or long term residence or even permanent citizenship, but lot of people moves between countries for example for work only short term without no interest to actually migrate there
@@lalli8152 well in the case of trash taste that is true, since once the japan content farm dries up they'll leave the country immediately
that aside, temporary migration is still migration, you're just parroting an excuse rich people use to not be associated with the poors
Him: kona
My Portuguese brain: 💀
Last time I had this issue with one website, apparently all I had to do was write my name in all caps.
Because of this many online stores in Japan don't allow you to pay with credit cards that don't have Japanese names on them
There are simply too lazy or ignorant to account for the eventuality of non-japanese customers
It’s probably the "ー" that was invalid. It’s the symbol to elongate the sound(katakana in most cases) before it. It’s viewed as a symbol more over a letter, so they get rejected when they require your full name because it has a symbol in it.
Grant should've pulled the "First time?" meme
Garnt
@@TheLaXandro Fucking auto-correct proving my point.
I get this occasionally as well, since my last name is three letters. Some websites say that a last name cannot be three letters, which is kinda annoying.
That website thought he was a pokemon 😂
Just a tidbit!
On a laptop, you can convert Japanese to full-width katakana by pressing Fn (function key) + F7.
For half-width katakana, Fn + F8.
(F9 and F10 are for full-width and half-width alphabet, respectively)
There is no such thing as half-width hiragana
Some websites don’t accept the elongated vowel ー katakana in their fields. Pretty stupid.
If you had told Amanozako to throw money on the water she would have asked how you knew she snuck some Macca out of your pocket earlier
mood. i have to end up calling airlines for precheck ins and ticket purchases cuz my last name is not a valid name for some reason.
Link also shares this naming convention with Mario, Link Link. Also that would mean that Luigi's full name is Luigi Mario.
Crazy this actually happened to me two days ago. Was trying to make a payment i got scared initially ngl until i figured it out abd convert
I arrived during the era when there were still things about having to use a "real" kanji name, so I choose the direct translation of my names via the English meanings. So I usually never have trouble.
My wife's given name is one of the odd name kanji that absolutely never works on these sites. Like 50% of the sites she cannot use her kanji given name. So she just uses her maiden name right, but some sites reject that because it's not a normal given name.
It's hilarious and I love it.
I remember Facebook refused to accept my fake name when I was creating an account so now I'm just Guy Guy.
Company asking think my last name should have an H in it. It doesn't. They will expect me to sign with said never agreed H. I don't
In my country, Poland, my friend's boyfriend had similar situation. His name is Gaweł, which is completely uncommon and usually only known by Poles from a poem for children. Gaweł wanted to create an account in the bank, but the website said that his name doesn't exist 😂 and basically the bank did not have that name in their record/data base lmaoo
Isn't that a surname?
@@ibrahimihsan2090 No, it's a name 😅
Facebook wouldn't let me register with my real name. I guess it doesn't believe adjectives can be surnames 😅
I had difficult trying to register to get some food since I had to utilize the qr code. I know the feeling... I know that annoyance
First name Mario. Last name Mario.
Kona Kona is a great name tho
Unless you're portuguese LOL
@@rodtvt5564 what does it mean in Portuguese 🤔
If it's something vulgar or explicit tell indirectly
@@akashgiri4377slang for the female reproductive organ
@@akashgiri4377 Kitty Kitty but fem
That weather report shirt goes hard
God I can’t get over how insanely xenophobic it is for a website to have pre-programmed in acceptable names.
It's probably more to do with the fact that names just don't translate well across languages in general and Japan literally doesn't have many western "sounds" for lack of a better word.
Essentially the closest translation of his name contains symbols/characters that wouldn't normally be in a name.
Same deal as some western sites not allowing names that have spaces in them.
It’s just a stupid website validation bug, like exist on countless western websites too. It’s not that deep!
Yet another massive W for English
First name, Kona. Last name, Kona
Kona Kona
Now you shall be “Konakona”
“Kono Kono.”
“Eh, sounds ethnic.”
i love how some english names are spelled in Romanji. mines boring Jād for Jade, but Kona for Conner is so cool
Bro my Dad has STORIES about the internet and just tech in general over there especially from his time in the 2000s. Shit wilding.
Similarly some western websites won’t accept that your name has just 2 letters
"no way of doing"? Yeah it's so hard to press F8.
Cona Cona is his Pokémon phrase
They finally stopped using floppy disks.
Joeys laugh is so funny
What unit 731 does to a country:
Man enough of these lame ass "jokes"
At this point you might as well just have a Japanese name just to make things easier.
This was about account creation for FF14. It's hard out here
Similar thing happened to me on Facebook haha
*Chuckles in English pronunciation also being able to be used in Japanese.*
Probably what Non-Latin script writers feel about English websites.
Insert Peter Peter joke from Death note Smosh video here.
As a Portuguese speaker, i love the name Kona
You know i knew someone with the last name *horse*
Facebook wasnt having it
Had ATM not accepting a small letter (ェ) in my surname, so I had to put the big one and then explain to the other side that this was me.
I had that issue before, not on a japanese websites
Honestly the japanese internet is very very unique to the western online spaces. Like as a graphic designer student who has taken quite a few classes on web design, japanese websites have such… unevolved Style? Idk if thats the best word, but basically it still looks like 90s-early 00s western internet. With lots of text and lots of things to click for links to other stuff. Whereas the western internet has evolved to a minimalist style of having the least amount of text or pop ups (japanese internetLOVES their popups and its more text of course😅)
Mario Mario happened to be the secret unlock.
And then he wasn't allowed to pay because the name on the card didn't match the name he registered with
Another instance where a human transcriber would've been better than auto-captions. But that's just a pedantic's gripe.
i had a same issue with dmm registration so i went with dan dan haha
I have that problem with some English websites. Some places won't believe that you can have a first name with a space in it. ;^; I promise it's not a middle name. It's my full first name.
Just use a dash when that happens
I appreciate them doing this... But it will cause tons of issues in the future