Things Players HATE in HOI4 (Part 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @abokadohoi4
    @abokadohoi4  Год назад +95

    I forgot to mention that you can currently only do offer peace if you are losing, so if you’re winning the option is locked out entirely…

    • @Africock
      @Africock 11 месяцев назад +5

      Still a stupid setting tho, no AI country would suing for peace before they were knocked out.

  • @axelhvetlander2212
    @axelhvetlander2212 Год назад +36

    Accidentally selecting every unit in the army when you click on a single one.

    • @ottomanaxohdmapping7691
      @ottomanaxohdmapping7691 Год назад

      Pain

    • @catfacecat.
      @catfacecat. Год назад

      I just press h but its super annoying

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos Год назад +1

      More specifically
      You accidentally assign an entire army to a new order in the middle of the war
      They strat-redeploy for no reason, lose their org, die, and you lose the war
      peak czechoslovakia vibes

  • @tmartin34
    @tmartin34 Год назад +27

    I hate when I have to fight whole world just because of my claim on some small teritory ,even just because I want to reclaim my core but no , you have to fight whole war instead of option to end war after you just grab that small part of land (even from minor) and instantly you are at war with major faction so you have to beat most of the world for one piece of land

    • @martinsemov2376
      @martinsemov2376 Год назад

      Playing with Bulgaria...

    • @surjackeroff
      @surjackeroff Год назад +2

      There really should be an territorial ultimatum mechanic. an interface that lets you select states to demand and send an ultimatum. itd probably be very cheeseable if its based on division calculated strength but theres probably a way to balance it. there should be a modifier for major nations to not accept because it shouldnt be possible to get land from the UK or USSR when you are Iran. for minors though this would be very useful. and the 10% world tension limit for UK guarantees should really be raised a bit.

  • @michaelkaminski1166
    @michaelkaminski1166 Год назад +25

    Something I realized recently that I now despise is that if AI Germany capitulates the USSR, they annex the entire country, even with historical focuses turned on. Historically, it would have been extremely difficult to conquer and occupy the entire Soviet Union. There is no reason AI Germany should be taking land beyond the Ural Mountains, so when they do, it’s super immersion-breaking.

    • @Stallins_ALT
      @Stallins_ALT Год назад +1

      im grateful as i... ignore my profile pic and name (i dont want border gore and russian shenanigans even tho they lost) it also spares pc's

  • @epicsx43
    @epicsx43 Год назад +26

    Another annoying feature is during late game when your puppets keep on giving you hundreds of divisions, some of which you cannot delete.

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  Год назад +7

      I don’t think you can delete any of them unless you annex the puppet. If you click delete the AI just gets control of the division

    • @anarchistZ
      @anarchistZ Год назад +1

      Italian puppet noises...

    • @michaelkaminski1166
      @michaelkaminski1166 Год назад +2

      You can give the division back to the puppet, but it’s extremely annoying to have to do it every single time they recruit a division. It would be nice to have a button that lets me automatically give them back, or just not take them.

    • @surjackeroff
      @surjackeroff Год назад +1

      crazy this is still a thing do they not play their game?

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice Год назад +55

    I remember assigning a railway gun as Italy and instead of taking the railways from the bottom of Italy to the top it instead tried to cross the sea, got intercepted by British subs and died straight away

    • @austria-hungary7680
      @austria-hungary7680 Год назад +1

      HOI4 Ai

    • @catfacecat.
      @catfacecat. Год назад +1

      The best hoi4 ai be like:

    • @Stallins_ALT
      @Stallins_ALT Год назад +2

      same i swear italy is cursed it only has ever done that to me in italy and i was playing spain!

  • @dizzypukas8410
    @dizzypukas8410 Год назад +16

    Something I hate is when your expanding as a small nation and the country your fighting just joins a faction (mostly allies) so now your at war with everyone

  • @brok8085
    @brok8085 Год назад +9

    You can use reorganize the railway system only once, it works for only 3 months and when you build 3 supply hubs, i cancels

  • @ryanhayward7875
    @ryanhayward7875 Год назад +12

    I can't understand why you can take civilian trains when your country doesn't know what a train it. Also some countries in hoi4 know how to make a tank before a truck.

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  Год назад +3

      Yup like Poland in the last video lol

    • @ravenouself4181
      @ravenouself4181 Год назад

      Tbh, Trains did come before Trucks, Historically.

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault Год назад +17

    Supply isn’t really that bad. You can always get around supply hubs by building ports along the coast and then setting them to motorized.

    • @squidthesquid1233
      @squidthesquid1233 Год назад +3

      Its still stupid. How does a full port cost LESS than a train station. makes absolutely no sense.

    • @dorimeameno5514
      @dorimeameno5514 Год назад

      the bad thing is when you're a landlocked nation like communist china or Austria it doesn't work

  • @CatfoodChronicles6737
    @CatfoodChronicles6737 Год назад +8

    I’ve used conditional surrender only once, when I started playing and the Netherlands declared war against me when I wasn’t prepared and started rampaging through my country. It said they would accept a conditional surrender, so I pressed it and that was the only time so far.

  • @shartplayer78
    @shartplayer78 Год назад +4

    Maybe it’s because I’m a more old fashioned player cause I’ve been playing since death or dishonor, but I literally hate that when you’re doing agency upgrades that when you finish it there’s no pop-up at the top like free research slots cause I just click off everything man 😩

  • @ElpepeEletesseh
    @ElpepeEletesseh Год назад +9

    The only thing I hate the most about this game is having to buy dlcs and more the new logistics system in the war area is a bit tedious having to build supplies and sometimes they take too long

  • @awddfg
    @awddfg 6 месяцев назад +3

    Having military access to a country and not being able to use the other country's airbases

  • @bizmasterTheSlav
    @bizmasterTheSlav Год назад +2

    Just pirate DLCs if you want, Paradox overprice them anyways

  • @randomperson-sc6ui
    @randomperson-sc6ui Год назад +5

    you forgot to add the allies navel invading you like 2,000 times every game unless you have 40 port guards

  • @deppkcong
    @deppkcong Год назад +4

    the worst thing about the undeletable units, especially from italy is, that when you have them as a puppet and then decide to annex them you cant even click the decision that disbands all of them anymore. And considering you get an italian puppet like almost every single time you invade them that is so fricking annoying

  • @bratannis7913
    @bratannis7913 8 месяцев назад +2

    And when AI spamming divisions it dont has problems with supply unlike player in such situation

  • @euginarex5649
    @euginarex5649 Год назад +1

    Supply hub's big cost makes them more "strategically important" objects that you can't build fast enough for your advancing army. You have to fight for them (or in MP, defend them fiercely)

    • @dorimeameno5514
      @dorimeameno5514 Год назад +3

      it still isn't realistic, like how in the hell just building a station to unload guns n shit costs more than building 3 entire factories from the ground?

    • @jadeorbigoso5212
      @jadeorbigoso5212 15 дней назад

      even in real life Trust me Supply Hubs in Pacific Front is just some large hut

  • @F.R.E.D.D2986
    @F.R.E.D.D2986 Год назад +3

    0:17 There I am!
    And that's my five seconds of fame

    • @F.R.E.D.D2986
      @F.R.E.D.D2986 Год назад

      Although, yes, supply is always the worse thing in Hoi4.

  • @deadpan2866
    @deadpan2866 5 месяцев назад +1

    one of the reasons i stopped playing hoi was because paradox dont test how focuses effect other countries. two examples are britian and australia. 1. as the uk you suddenly lose political power because mexico has a focus that kicks out british oil companies. before mexico does that britian doesnt get a bonus to oil exports or even takes a oil export debuff from mexico, it just loses political power when 99% of the time, britian wont import mexican oil anyway. secondly, if britian goes anything but democratic, austrlia has half its focus tree locked off, thing is that part of the focus tree is everything to do with industry and research.
    i honestly think paradox dont play test hoi4 outside of germany and the ussr anywhere near enough than they should.

  • @Edreinadar
    @Edreinadar 11 месяцев назад +1

    the problem with the conditional surrender button is that its for YOU to surrender, not the enemy so its pretty useless even if they agree and the times they do agree you need to be in the losing side

  • @Piratewaffle43
    @Piratewaffle43 22 дня назад +1

    Undeletable divisions are the bane of my existence. Hate them in vanilla and modded.

  • @maxxedout2563
    @maxxedout2563 Год назад +2

    Frontlines not flippin working! They are just randomly changing 😢

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  Год назад

      Especially circular front lines, as well as when you’re fighting with another faction in the same war

  • @muhammadyudhi1338
    @muhammadyudhi1338 Год назад +2

    And also achievement Tojo shot first was really frustating, because to get this achievement you have to played as Japan and then nuked the american core teritory before you get nuked by american. The frustating from this achievement, that's because Japan didn't have national focus that's can boost atomic research, the only man can boost atomic research for Japan was Nishio for 10%

  • @lordfreezer9550
    @lordfreezer9550 Год назад +1

    I've heard the game is oriented towards total war, that is annihilation war until total victory or total defeat, I understand that point of view but it shouldnt be a general rule but stablish some groups of countries that would be more inclined to accept peace even at low surrender progress, ideology could have a small effect on peace accepting, it makes sense for Soviets and Germany and even UK or USA to want to fight till the last drop of blood, but Brazil? Peru? Chile? Or even Italy which they currently have tweaked to depose Mussolini after losing some cores,

  • @otamabinladen6005
    @otamabinladen6005 Год назад +2

    One of the most annoying things about this game is trying to switch ideologies with the default focus tree. God forbid that you are democratic, or else you might have to wait longer than a year doing absolutely nothing while the ideology support slowly increases.

  • @dorimeameno5514
    @dorimeameno5514 Год назад +2

    The worst thing is focuses that give literal debuffs, like why the hell would i take a focus just to be punished?

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice Год назад +1

    One thing I hate is how there are some notifications you just can’t turn off. I don’t need a notification for every single tiny country that’s part of the allies joining the war against me

  • @nikolica12q9
    @nikolica12q9 Год назад +1

    15 min ago
    Anyways great video!
    One of my suggestion is when you get constantly convoy raided like as minor nation

  • @ChalleonPlays
    @ChalleonPlays Год назад +1

    I have one for part 3. Themselves

  • @jadeorbigoso5212
    @jadeorbigoso5212 15 дней назад

    I like the logic in some countries where they know how to Build Planes and Tank but forgetting how to build a 100 year old tech trains.

  • @Panzersoldaten
    @Panzersoldaten 6 месяцев назад

    Ok paradox I understand the need for dlc but why do we need to have a dlc TO FUCKING EQUIP SUPER BATTLESHIPS like at that point there isn’t no point in having them without dlc

  • @3rg025
    @3rg025 Год назад

    if you wait a little after dlcs come out you can buy them for 5-6 euros at max on key shops

  • @giovannidevincenzi3376
    @giovannidevincenzi3376 11 месяцев назад

    1:11
    Yep.
    Like how I had to spend 20€ for TFV for the right of being able to have puppets as a democracy by virtue of the 'release as puppet' button in the occupied territories tab.
    Also, I fully stand by the opinion that, rather than mods, player-led peace conferences and toolpack should straight up be base game features which you can choose to toggle on and off when you're playing solo.
    Because f***k the AI and the retarded as f***k war score system.
    Some time ago I was playing monarchist Germany shortly after By blood alone had dropped: I flipped Italy to my side, started and swiftly won WW2, then the peace conference happened and, because I had taken extremely low casualties, while the Italians were headbutting the Western Alps and getting butchered in Africa the whole time, I literally did not manage to take
    a single
    f***ing
    tile.
    I despise the AI.

  • @inlandtaipan9959
    @inlandtaipan9959 2 месяца назад

    One thing I hate is when you are carrying the war by navally invading, but your allies continue ro plan other naval invasions elsewhere causing you to lose many divisions and your best shot at victory.

  • @_ChemicalBird
    @_ChemicalBird Год назад +1

    I was playing as the soviets and i assigned some railway guns to an army staitoned near konigsberg an they kept moving to the port and going through sea to memel and reapeating that

  • @therealmuthaphukkin.g
    @therealmuthaphukkin.g Год назад +7

    I hate when you take territory the front line assigned to an Army after a pile or two just goes bananas and extends to unimaginable front line sometimes on the entire front and messes up my whole plan... I dont play by just field marshal front line my armies i assign each army to take different obiectives just like IRL but NO when my panzers breakthrough their front line stretches from 1 - 2 tiles to THE WHOLE FRONT and i have to manually shorten each front line for each advancement...... Ugh

  • @bruhovmenepta
    @bruhovmenepta Год назад

    The dumbest thing about HOI4 is when you almost capitulate a country and they join some kind of alliance, that's the BIGGEST STUPIDITY IN THE GAME

  • @georgiaballanimationandmapping
    @georgiaballanimationandmapping Год назад +1

    mention this in the pt3: When Germany makes F*ck ton of railway guns

  • @weirdland4902
    @weirdland4902 Год назад

    I conditional surrendered as Soviet Union once when I was at a stalemate in the dniper and lost Moscow Leningrad and Stalingrad and my entire army ceased to exist

  • @Kalbot84
    @Kalbot84 6 месяцев назад

    The best way to deal with un-deletable units is to naval invade them into an enemy tile with no harbour and forget about them

  • @ryanhayward7875
    @ryanhayward7875 Год назад +2

    Yay

  • @declangaming24
    @declangaming24 Год назад +1

    I don't like how basic stuff requires dlc take navy, more focuses ect when paradox make HOI5 they need to make HOI4 dlc free otherwise people will use mods like myself

    • @To6k0_
      @To6k0_ Год назад +1

      just crack the game with all of the dlcs

  • @truelightningstriker5803
    @truelightningstriker5803 Год назад +1

    Being unable to join factions. Example being Brazil not allowed to join the allies unless they are democratic.

  • @MrRNG
    @MrRNG Год назад +1

    I remembered my allies ai eating my supply, but that frontline is just for me to operate damnit. And if i outnumbered my allies number in the frontline, its still stand still completely eating my supply

    • @catfacecat.
      @catfacecat. Год назад

      Turn off allied supply in the supply map mode

  • @tuluppampam
    @tuluppampam Год назад +1

    Trains are something that predates ww2 by a lot, and somehow there are still countried that have to research them
    I can understand Nepal and Bhutan, but why should countries like Siam have to research them?

  • @Brasil713
    @Brasil713 Год назад +1

    Come to Brazil plz ❤

  • @justyes1234
    @justyes1234 Год назад

    at 0:17 F.R.ED.D 2986 was there for a split second. Watch his videos he goes through pain with hoi4 day by day. He deserves more subs.

  • @gopherasoda2492
    @gopherasoda2492 Год назад

    I find this game to be amazing conceptually, allowing for us deranged nerds to have fun. But Holy Shit if the mechanics and executation aren't god awful!

  • @kakhasukhitashvili5617
    @kakhasukhitashvili5617 Год назад

    I used conditional surrender once, when a nation just randomly declared war on me (in vanilla game) and I was so annoyed I used "yesman" and game just assumed I had lost and my country got annexed, even those I was germany and enemy was netherlands(maybe)

  • @rob2540
    @rob2540 Год назад

    I hate that you have to design 50 tank and 50 planes and I just quit hoi 4 singleplayer because i cant handle macroing air navy and land

  • @lukalolleonardo4797
    @lukalolleonardo4797 Год назад

    The ai divison spam is real one game I inflicted more then 100 million casualties and I wasn't farming them

  • @mikelangelo1232
    @mikelangelo1232 Год назад

    When ai spams planes

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice Год назад

    The Italian Colonial divisions can be disbanded after getting the colonial management focus

  • @geicolizard6776
    @geicolizard6776 6 месяцев назад

    The Japanese Focus Tree

  • @fuzztsimmers3415
    @fuzztsimmers3415 Год назад

    Forgot factions in general if im not on historical it should be possible to turn them off

  • @Speznas7rus
    @Speznas7rus Год назад

    Im gay

  • @TruePolishGuy
    @TruePolishGuy Год назад

    Lol I was about to do go ahead macau my day achivement run

  • @JELONGreatMrRed
    @JELONGreatMrRed 5 месяцев назад

    This is why i use better mechanics mod.

  • @toolboxnj
    @toolboxnj Год назад

    $20 isn't a lot man

  • @parallax9084
    @parallax9084 Год назад +1

    just pirate the dlc

  • @Idoexist._.
    @Idoexist._. Год назад +1

    "And all of those undeleteble divisions.. not even nearly good!
    "Points at sefari"
    Sefari can be disbanded if im not mistaken.
    "Ethiopia pros on their way to tell him that those irregulara eat smol amount of supply amd have nice focuses_ideas"
    "Shitty ass colonial divisions"
    Man there is button right there when you take thiopia "disband colonial" Whoch removes colonial divs... Seems like yo never read italy and eth's stuff

  • @williamsmeds1368
    @williamsmeds1368 Год назад +1

    I hate the awful DLC reliant model. A full priced game should not come with hundreds of dollars worth of DLC and expansions.
    I'd gladly buy the game itself, if it was a full game, instead of a barebones husk that requires DLC to be fun.
    This is why no one should feel ashamed when pirating this game.

  • @soypobre123
    @soypobre123 Год назад

    youyou forgot about the 69 infantry slots used, and that while you have Tanks, Artillery, AA, Anti tank, they beat you just for having more than 90k Manpower