The Story of Fahrenheit
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2016
- Same video as on Veritasium, except not animated. Better or worse? Let me know in comments.
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Animated version: • What the Fahrenheit?!
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Holy shit I blindly walked past Veritasium... I can't believe I missed him.
I think it's easier to concentrate on the animated version. Easier to absorb the information watching the same thing twice, either way...
Yeah agreed. The animated version is much better. Cleaner audio quality, too.
Not to say that your comment is not "correct", but there are things that can be done in post to make everything better.
Yeah, I felt the same way mostly but also proud I could tell the whole story off the top of my head I've been working on this topic for so long.
I was pretty impressed with how similar the two were - don't think i could do all that in one go like that
SO you went through the streets and sudenly thought "oh wait I know the story by heart, let's make a vlog about it!"
I prefer the casual style of this video. It's like you're talking directly to us, which makes it feel intimate. I also like seeing the city you're in (Amsterdam, right?) and your handsome face. But the animations in the other video do make the actual topic somewhat easier to understand. Perhaps a mixture of the two would be best, basically this video interspersed with occasional graphics to demonstrate the important points. No music either; it's a bit distracting. I guess the animation is better for drawing in new viewers though. Whatever you decide, I'll keep watching. :)
thanks for the feedback!
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Can you tell which city are you in?
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Arun Kumar the Netherlands, Amsterdam
Why the fuck do people use Fahrenheit?
Celsius and Kelvin all the way.
Because when i want to be comfortable in my home I raise the temperature from 68 degrees to 70 degrees not 20 to 21.111
Mike Rotchitchez just rise to 21... it's almost the same
Mike Rotchitchez that's aside from questioning the reliability of your air conditioner. personally I'm more interested in knowing how close the hot water I'm showering with is to boiling. :)
are you aware that your body is not able to sense this difference?
fischX not the point. it's mostly just that 0-100 correspond to comfortable temperatures for living as 0-100 correspond to freezing and boiling of water in °C.
Generally, when you do this in reality, you split up how it feels into groups of 5 or 10.
Let's just use Kelvin.
let's just use Plank temperature
Shoulders of Giants Rankine needs love too :'(
Every scale we use is arbitrary,but indeed we use kelvin for science and celsius for home use.At least those have the same scale :D
I did watch both videos, and while I feel the animated version is better at getting the point across from an educational standpoint, this version felt more like a conversation; it felt as though we were engaged in a discussion. Because of this, this video triggered different thoughts and opinions in my own mind, furthering my understanding. Over all, i found both to be captivating and enjoyable, and would like to thank you, Derek, for continuing to create fun, interesting, and educational content like this. :)
All one take in a tracking shot. Nice.
all those people turn around as they pass him, unlike in other cities
turbominator some even made fun of him :/
So America uses a scale that was invented by a guy who just was bored one day and liked to think positive..
I just can't stop noticing all the people starring at Mr. Muller
I find it much easier to remember and concentrate in the animated version and not get distracted by your surroundings. But amazing job for remembering it all so well and being able to tell it over in such a clear manner!
This is SO MUCH better
i think the animated version is better for people unfamiliar with science, it feels almost like it it is aimed at children. the animations demonstrate what your saying exactly and leave no room for the viewer's mind to further think on the topic, you force the viewer to think and interpret the words in only one way. that being said i like the vlog style better because it doesn't feel like im being talked down to, like we are having a conversation. it allows me to explore what you are saying in my imagination and i can bring my own understanding to the subject. the visuals have nothing to do with the topic and frees the brain to only concentrate on one input, sound, your words.
The animated one is better for educational purposes. However, I've come to love your walking vlogs where you seem like you're telling an interesting story while in the middle of a casual walk. So which is better? Well, it depends on the situation.
As someone with attention disorder - I liked animated version more. It kept me more focused what you were talking about.
Of course this time it was also easier to focus because I knew most of the story you told.
This was kinda easy story to follow so casual way isn't too bad.. Like when you told that war plane example in other casual video. When things get more complicated the animation is the better way.
Also I like when you casually just talk to us like one of those really good school teachers.
I actually greatly preferred having both available- I watched the animated one first and felt that I could absorb it more readily (for example, the excellent cube on a cube illustration of mercury expanding). Having watched that I enjoyed watching this one as well.
I like the animated version better. Not necessarily for the animation, but the audio is way better to listen to.
Personally I love that you can tell the whole story while walking around. It's also more fun in my opinion, and, like other people have said, it is certainly more intimate and conversational.
why does everybody stare at you? xD
Fuzzy Ideology maybe because he's walking in the street talking to a camera....?
what, the crazy man wandering around talking to himself? I can't think of a reason... :P
Is someone vloging himself that uncommon in Amsterdam?
Fuzzy Ideology I've never seen it happen. Even if it was common, people will stare
not a clue, but I'd definitely have a look and see what's going on if I came across the same thing in the UK
I preffer the non-animated versions. What I love about your videos is that they don't go over what is realy needed for the undestanding of the viewer. Also, watch you walking is quite relaxing
Though the animated version is a bit easier to listen to, there is something really comforting about watching this video and you speaking with no interruption about the history and the science behind the scale. It's like you know everything, Derek.
I watched this first, and am now making my way through the animated one. Already a minute in I feel like this off the cuff version conveys more of the minutia surrounding each point in the story, projecting a broader picture - giving my mind hooks to grab on to which lets me follow along a lot more easily in the story. I have always preferred teachers to books, I feel like text - even if it's read out loud - can't convey thoughts and ideas as well as intonation, tangents, body language and other subtleties of speech and conversation can.
We need a third - blazed out of his mind - version of this tale.
TL;DW: For every degree Farenheit increased, mercury in a termometer increases its volume by 1 part in 10,000.
Oddly enough I prefer this version of the video. There are aspects of both videos that are great so I think a combination would be the best of both worlds. I would personally have the video be mainly walking and talking inter cut with small animations to help further understanding of difficult concepts. I like the causal and relaxing video of the walking video in contrast to the animated one.
I love your live action videos more! Animated videos are pretty common on RUclips but your live action ones really stand out.. The surroundings you walk around give a good feel and vibe along with the information you are telling. These videos really stand out among the many science channels. Please continue making live actions videos along with animated. :)
I prefer this kind of videos than the animated ones. These are original. Animated videos are all over RUclips. Plus, you walk in such beautiful places.
I loved the animation
Hey Derek. I love this one more than the animated one, but I think the animated one is better simply because things are easier to grasp through your way (animators way) of representing it. But please keep doing both!
I liked both videos
this one is particularly nice because you did it all in one take, almost like you're rehearsing (what you said in both videos is almost exactly the same) and this brings warmth to the way it's being presented. As if you're story telling.
Visuals on the other video make it seem more scientific rather than a story, it also helps a bit to stay focused and not sidetracked by thoughts (or pedestrians in this video).
I love both videos. In one you can concentrate easier, because its animated and you can see all the info. But in the other hand, watching you in your city is fantastic. You can tell a story without interruptions, and that's fantastic! Keep the good work!!
I like these walk n' talk videos more, especially when you are walking in somewhere that adds context to the video, for example "The survivor bias" video in the old Japanese town.
rem -loosing my religion - (playing at the last 1/4 of this video)
--i like this version, no audible ad at the end, and i like watching people speak - it registers with my mind better
Thanks Derek. I enjoyed both, but for me the non-animated one is best; It's more personal and more real-world, especially if you're gone through all the trouble, cost and extent to travel to a location pertinent to the topic. Additionally, the location shots are highly interesting and culturally informative even though it's "background". A cool snapshot of "a moment in the life of...". Further, there are so many animated videos that, to me, they seem get lost among each other. I do however appreciate the animations created for the previous videos on fields. Those, to me help convey more useful information about the topic.
The editing, little jokes in the visuals and extra information in the animated video was helpful to stay focused and absorb the information better. But the rhythm of speech in this video also helped in absorbing the info, whereas the animation in the other one made it possible to pack more words per minute of video. I also liked looking at the surroundings of the place that you were walking through when you were speaking.
Basically, both styles would work for me. The animated one felt a little like CGP Grey's videos, since he does fast-talking animated videos, but for both, they were interesting.
Hey, I watched this and the animated version too. I liked the animations, because they were funny, and demonstrated concepts well. I also liked this one because I found it interesting watching the reactions of people looking at you as you talked into your camera. :)
Hi Derek. As a long time viewer, I enjoy both versions. In general I think the animated video is more approachable to an outsider and thus better introduction content. The first person camera has an amazing intimacy for a subscriber, and you can convey much more subtle / precise ideas, which add a lot of value for me. Overall, I think the two channel approach is great, especially when each is optimized for its purpose. Best, --A
I just got hyped on this vid because I've been in Amsterdam for the past three weeks and recognized where you were immediately =P
I like the animated version more because it's easier to follow the story that you're telling. But I also like watching you walk through the streets I also do everyday lol.
I definitely liked this style better. I think the way you presented the topic fits better with the other videos you have done in this style than the videos on your main channel.
I found the animated version better for the topic as it providing relevant visual information to engage with, which helps memory recall. It's also the type of thing that lends itself to use in an educational environment. I hope to see more colabs with Marcello. The walking around style I believe better suits an opinion piece as it simulates a conversation, even though it's one sided.
This style seems more fitting for the theme of 2veritasium ... the videos that are more commentary and opinion, rather than the teaching-themed videos on the veritasium channel. I prefer the way you traditionally have presented things on that channel, but not so much the animated technique of the last video. I have always thought that your greatest videos were the ones where you are interacting with people while teaching science concepts. Those are gold, and relatable!
I find it interesting to learn about how people just "invented" a measuring system. How many competing measuring systems were there? how did that confuse the scientific literature? Did different scientific groups ever "fight" over this? (ie: geologists vs entomologists)
The visualisation of the animated video makes understanding easier, although this style does hold attention better I think and I also like the more personal, up close approach here
I watched both and enjoyed this one more. When I pass it along to others, I'll send the link to the animated one. Visuals are helpful in many ways. But as a long time fan, I enjoyed the scenery and the thoughts of your lifestyle that this video evoked. And perhaps most of all, I was impressed by your delivery of the whole lesson, presumably without a prompter or cue cards. I know its just six minutes, but still. There was no hesitation, shuffling of the order, misquoting of dates, etc. Maybe you had at least an outline in your right hand with the camera. Yeah, that would make me feel a little better! :-)
Thanks for the update on Snatoms! On my way...
So we learned bookkeeping sucks. Fahrenheit got that right.
And lets now all use Celcius please!
At first I was actually going to click the Replay button after I've watched this video just because I was too busy noticing everything in the background and couldn't concentrate on the topic, but then I read the annotation at the end and went to watch the animated version. I think this version might be better if the goal is to make your viewers spend more time watching/re-watching your video, while the animated version was a lot easier to comprehend. Either way, an interesting and informative video, as usual!
I like both of your channels. It seems to me that for topics where you tell a story or speculate on things, the "walking" style suits better. When you explain things, graphics help a lot, making things easier to understand. On this topic, when you told about expanding mercury, it was easier to understand with graphics, but overall I liked the Amsterdam version most, although both are great. (Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker)
Best style! This is the Veritasium that I love!
Am I the only one who finds it impressive that he managed to tell that 5min story without any slip of tongue or long pauses?! Good memory, Sir ;)
The question is hard. Having seen the animated version first, I think that I caught the information better with it, then the repeat on a more informal way was a very good nailing of the knowledge. I'm not at all sure I would have recalled more by inverting the order.
So for educative purpose, the animated was better, but for edutainment, I would prefer the second one.
Hey Derek, I enjoyed both. If you did 2 versions in the future I would still watch both.
Both vids are awesome and enjoyable... both visually appealing!
5:14 - 5:17 A slip of the tongue I hope? The record in Finland is -51,1C (-60F) And -31C (-24F) is normal in January and February...
haha, most parts of Europe.
Finally a video here!
wow! you're good at this one-take stuff!
Both videos are great. The animation was something different. Except I forgot I was watching a Veritasium video and was surprised when I saw you pop up in the outro. I prefer this version, but would not be opposed to a hybrid of the two.
I really liked the animated version, it was really different and much easier to listen to without the usual background noise. Still, pretty interesting!
I believe that the animated version of this video is more concise and comprehensible, however this video (on 2veritasium) is more accustomed to the way you usually do videos and is one of the reasons I like watching your videos in the first place.
I really enjoy the 2veritasium walk-and-talk videos for their (somewhat) rambling philosophizing, but for a topic like this, I think a more tightly edited, soundtracked video with graphics and stuff is better.
check his main channel!
I like this version because it is more chilled and personal.
I prefer the animated one, it's hard to say how much of that comes from it not having the background noise.
I watched both, and while I normally almost prefer these casual walking videos, I actually found the animated version easier to follow and understand. I found it much easier to absorb and I could probably teach what I learned to others. Not in FULL detail of course, but I could probably teach more of what I learned from the animated version than from this non-animated version because I have visuals that went along with everything. With this walking video, I have distractions due to all of the interesting things to look at.
So I think that these more casual walking videos should be reserved for when you're just kinda speaking from the heart and the animated stuff like the video on your main channel should be reserved for when you have something prepared. When you're speaking more from the heart, I don't find the stuff around you to be distracting. Instead, I can find myself looking at the things around you while my mind is totally focused on what you're saying. With this particular video though, it was a prepared lesson and so I think these are best with some sort of visual aids like in the animated version.
The Animated version is easier for various reasons, one of them being cleaner sound (which makes listening to it almost effortless and there is no strain, like trying to focus on the sound of a voice while ignoring the sounds from the environment, which we are good at but still it puts some strain) another one is the idea of cartoons and animation which makes is that much easier to digest since we have grown up with cartoons and it has a certain element in it an element that makes you enjoy it more. So in sort, one is more human like (most people can relate to it as it is everyday like) while the other one is trimmed and neat. One presents a more down to earth scientist that looks approachable while the other ones gives the idea of a more serious and respected scientist and quality work (as ideas are easier presentable with animations much like the TED ed videos) also let's not forget that in this video the viewer can feel like having a conversation with you while the other one lacks a "face".
both videos were pretty good, as long as the main idea of the video is clearly delivered , i think any video is great!
Living near Amsterdam, I could have met you... and oh my had I been starstruck. Hehe. Thanks for this episode. Nice!
As much as I like seeing your handsome punim and the reactions of the people around you and the scenery of Amsterdam, I think the animated version was easier to follow.
I liked both, seeing you walk through Amsterdam (So close to home) made the video 1000x beteer
The subject of this video is complimented by the animation. I think when you are doing your more stream of thought videos like the learned helplessness this walking around style fits much better since animating would be difficult/ distracting.
I think you connected better to the audience in this video but the visual examples of the other one made me understand everything a bit better.
To me audio and picture are important, it's easier to concentrate and learn watching you filmed in a silent room.
Pretty impressive that you got essentially all of the same material into this video as the other in 1 take!!
I thought the animated one was a little odd just because of the fact that it's not your usual style, but I still enjoyed it. I like these walking vlogs much more but I think they are more the style of your second channel
This version of the video was more personal, but with the sacrifice of the occasional motorized vehicle passing by and making the audio sound "unpretty".
This is tough!
This video is nicer to watch because you get told by a human, not by drawings.
The animated one is easier to follow because of the animations representing the spoken words...
I think that the animated video is better, because is more entertain and the ideas are easier to follow. Thank you for being so curious and for doing this grate videos.
Ok so I'm about a minute in is this the same as the cartoon but with him walking and talking to the camera?
Jimmy M yes. Description
It is harder to pay attention to the information in this video, although it's quite nice to see the city of Amsterdam.
I like this better than the animated video. You're handsome. No, now seriously, I like this one better because it feels more natural, more "improvised" rather than artificial
Either way is great Derek, just keep 'em coming! xD
Perhaps go from one to another at times for a change?
Anyways, curious as to how many takes it... takes to get it. Many people stopping you in the street while you are doing your thing?
I enjoyed both. I watched the animated version first, but like the off-the-cuff feel of this video too.
Curiously, I recently started a physics channel with a similar format to this video. It's in Spanish, so you probably won't understand much, but I'm happy to see someone whose content I really enjoy give a try to ideas similar to mine. :)
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excellent research man
The math was easier to follow on the animated video because you could refer to the picture rather than having to keep everything in the mind.
But the animated video felt more detached / disconnected. I like being able to see your facial expressions as you tell the story. It makes it more personal and I get some idea of how you are thinking as you speak.
That said I enjoyed both.
In terms of educational purpose, animated version is better because it can highlight the key terms. But the walk-and-talk version really gives me the scenery of some countries which I may never visit in my whole live.
I prefer the animated one as I want to learn some science from your channel. I still enjoy the walk-and-talk one. I think that you may use the walk-and-talk style when you want to speak about your thoughts, feelings or casual ideas.
I've seen both versions but I prefer this one due to the fact that I can see that beautiful city. I'd rather see an awesome place than an animation.
I always find myself paying more attention to what the people are doing in the background than what Derek has to say. People's reactions to vlogging are funny.
While the animated video was well done, I prefer the walk and talk. I think my preference is because there are a lot of people doing animated science videos these days, and the more natural, conversational feel of these strikes a chord. I can understand how the background noise would make listening more difficult for some people, but there are very few RUclipsrs who have chosen to live your lifestyle and could do these walk and talks through the appropriate locations.
I guess I'll make my official opinion that the animated videos have potential for adding to more pure scientific topics, but with something like science history the sense of place adds a dimension that helps hook the story into the overarching development of how we know what we know. Of course, this relies on being in the right city to do make the video, and would not have been as strong in, say, Seville. That would have to be a story about the discovery of platinum and other things that Antonio de Ulloa was involved with.
I actually really enjoyed seeing both videos. I don't really have one that I prefer, but I reckon the first one will be taken more seriously. You can see there was put a lot of effort in it, not only the visuals but you also recognize the fact you had to find lots of information to make it. This video (without the first one) might seem like you're just walking around and happened to discus about something that was in your mind.
Anyway, very interesting videos!
Also, if you read this, how is your "policy" on people approaching you? I know that if I see Grey I will just have to pretend to not have seen him and continue with my life, Brady I can maybe talk with if he has the time, at least shake his hand and tell him I appreciate his work, but I'm not sure about you. As you're in my country now, this question just hit me. :)
For most of the animated video, I don't feel that the animation added much of concrete value. However, it did help when you spoke of dividing the scale in half, half again, and half again. Visually seeing it animated helped. But I also feel that one human talking to another has a powerful effect on teaching. The best videos combine the two, using animation (sparingly) to illustrate a concept that is better communicated visually than verbally, but relying on eye contact and gestures for most of the explanation.
im a fan of minute physics and enjoy the animation including the little "humorous" bits. As a visual learner it helps to show pieces of info for example the map part of the story
As a fan, I like this version (especially since you are walking around a a cool city), but I find the animated version more sharable. The animated one was easier to understand when doing the math(s) too.
I think the animated version is much more attention-grabbing, and much more fun to watch. It gives you images to associate with the narrative. Pictures are worth a thousand words.
I personally like this one better. Despite my deep and abiding love of Minute Physics and CGP Grey, and my absolute agreement that animation is fantastic for presenting certain concepts (as it's used in Crash Course videos, for example), I'm not typically a huge fan of fully animated videos. Having said that, though, I'd watch anything you put out, so you do you, man. :-)
Really like the vlogging style version!
Since you're walking in my town, I'd say the non-animated version.
Plus, it seems more natural to me.
Why does it bug me so much that people kept staring at us? Is this an innate response adapted for survival (staring = threat = uneasiness), or is it just because I've always been taught that it's FUCKING RUDE!
Wow! You did all of it in one shot? That's impressive.
i wanted to like this version more, because this is what i know veritasium for, not animated things. But the animated one was indeed easier to concentrate on.
Rømer actually never intended to make 22.5 body temperature a reference point. This about it, 22.5 works out to well below body temperature on his scale if 60 degrees is boiling. 22.5 was just a shortened version of this thermometer because you didn't need a thermometer to go all the way up to 60 to measure air temperature. Fahrenheit was apparently just mistaken that Romer was using body temperature as a reference and so that's what he did.