Give Me an Answer -
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2015
- Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
This is how debate SHOULD be. Both sides showed respect for each other. Both sides listened to each other. We need more of this nowadays.
2024
Aaron Ra didn’t get the memo about being respectful with the debate with cliffe 😂😂😂
This video is far more superior than debate. This is conversation.
@@Conservative_East🎉 yes, 2024.... less than a day....
Would you respect anyone claiming leprechauns exist, or that unicorns exist, would you respect anyone or any organisation that claimed what they and no one else could prove. So tell me why one should respect any religion or apologetics of any religion.
this man looks like and acts like a stoner who knows very little but is asking and relating ideas that are very intelligent and thoughtful. he is even polite and a pleasure to listen to. He is a future Christ believing man.
Amen. To him being saved by Jesus Christ.
Amen and amen
never judge a book by its cover
Amen
Hey, just want to say be careful. You don't have authority to say he IS a future believer. Love the respect!
I love this kid. He's not looking to fight or argue. He's being fair. He's being honest. He is working through his doubt point by point, and he's not changing his argument as he goes. He's looking for truth.
He is questioning his indoctrination, and I'll equipped to do so, unable to decipher what he can accept as true and what not, from all he has been indoctrinated to believe in and all he has been told . Surely though he should be aware no one can prove square circles exist, anymore than anyone can prove or disprove any such thing as gods exist, and why is it that he even thinks it's something to argue over when every arguement by any attempting to argue gods into existence has failed.
Sure
I honestly wish I would have been like him when I was an atheist . I was a little more rebellious and argumentative. Luckily God humbled me and called me to him
@@Allyourbase1990 your just another liar for jesus, claiming to have been an atheist, when you don't know what an atheist is or even why.
@@Allyourbase1990stop
This man is a deep thinker. He's asking very intelligent questions and making logical points. Cliffe's humble responses says more about Jesus than it says about himself. His understanding and his ability to answer logically and carefully is truly a gift
That man is also humble, and I always believe that 'humility' is a way to reason and mutual understanding between people in conversations which I can definitely see in this vid. God. bless this man🙏.
I like this young man. He’s searching and has an open mind without preconceived ideas cut in stone. He’s willing to listen. I have a feeling this young man is gonna come to Christ.
This first guy is seeking understanding. This was a nice conversation.
I love how Cliff is able to be so even tempered. I pray for this kind of patience when witnessing to non-believers. Thanks always for these great videos Cliff.
Slap the sin out of them
Jesus spoke and taught with authority, but we aren't Jesus. When in doubt remember he died for US, that includes imperfect Christian and the unbeliever.
@@dogelife7901Jesus died and rose again which extended a free gift of salvation, it's up to people to accept it and live as righteous as possible. I wouldn't say Jesus died for nonbelievers, because they aren't taking what he died for. I tell you this so you don't get the gospel and the saving grace confused
Is it cliff? What’s his name so I can follow?
I appreciated how everyone was listening respectfully; Mr. Cliffe Knechtle was also listening respectfully. There were differences in opinions, and because both were willing to try and understand each others point of view, there was peace.
This is a beautiful conversation. The man asking questions is clearly seeking something higher than himself, he wants to believe something higher than us all, he just hasn’t found a way to bring himself to it because of the evils and cruelty of this world. Cliffe reassuring him that God suffers along with us is so important.
If God suffered then he would intervene and not just leave us in this mess and say it's because of free will. He wouldn't had created hell that people end up in for eternity.
@@Tene-xh9vlonce you’ve read the word more this question gets answered many times over
Keep asking questions kids. It's a good way to learn.
8 years ago, the young people sat and listened. Today, cliff would be persecuted and cast out. We’re in dark times my brothers and sisters
hey man, I just want you to know that to this day I believe Cliffe has preached at colllege campuses as recently as last year
he seemed to be surrounded by tons of doubters and persecutors but never escorted off the campus
He would be laughed out and pelted with rotten tomatoes in any modern 1st world educated nation that would show up his use of sophistry, unevidenced claims and shit for brains explanations.
@@agnosyidk7170 he is surround by people that have been indoctrinated in the beliefs of their culture, most that have lived their whole lives in A bubble, the only thing that can be said of some of them is they are at least attempting to seek answers to their questions, for sure he would never put out any video that had a knowledgeable person able to destroy his absurd claims that showed him up to be the purposely, malicious, mendacious cretin he is in them, these videos of his have the sole purpose of retaining the ignorant, indoctrinated believers, not converting any educated sane non indoctrinated persons.
@@derekardito2032😘
I love this guy asking the question. He's very open, honest and intelligent. If only I was like that at his age. I hope you get there fella. I'm pretty sure you will. God's bless you in Yeshua's name.
I would love to see a 2 hour conversation of these guys
@@hummervs3278 I would love to see Cliffe answer a question without using scripture.
Watch more of his videos- be does fairly often.
But the stuff in the beginning about free will, and love- none of that is scripture. He then mentions how it is shown in scripture but those are his views and explanations.
Other folks that agree with most everything he says totally disagree about free will. They stick to predestination at a viewpoint that God chooses the people that will be saved and he is not trying to save the majority of people that will go to hell. Like God had no intention for them ever to do anything but that- like how you would intend to buy some wood to carve a beautiful piece of art and another as fire wood.
So neither view is 100% written exactly in scripture- but predestination is spoken about, just interpreted differently.
I just really enjoyed the different view points being peacefully and thoughtfully discussed.
Best to ya.
@@hummervs3278
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Rom9:21
I attend a Presbyterian church and predestination is their viewpoint.
I am for the free will part myself and really dislike the 'once saved always saved' mantra.
I am fully behind belief in Christ dying for my sins and resurrection, BUT we must also take James' words of 'faith without works is dead'. I am not trying to crucify Jesus again. Just looking to honour His sacrifice.
Most churches these days will not even reach out to community that they are situated. I find that they have cherry picked the verses that suit their own comfort.
Can I ask your viewpoint?
I am still in the hunt. I see both sides of it and have yet to find a solution that is clear cut.
My milk glass is empty, looking for some steak- as it were.
So, i was just pointing out another option that is there.
In the book of job god says he allowed the terrible things to happen to him but told the devil to spare his life and that no matter what you do to him he will come out stronger , this was a perfect example of God having faith in his own people
The first dude was really cool, you can tell he was very sincere in his questions and making them humbly
I wanted to hug the guy half way through this debate, not Cliffe but the student. He's incredibly intelligent it seems, quite gifted in fact in his ability to reasonably articulate his mind. He genuinely seemed like he was searching for absolute truth, and I pray he wasn't mocked or made fun of for his seemingly awkward posture at times. Not all communication looks or sounds the same, but you can really miss out on God's potential being lived through a particular person when you judge them. God made him the exact way he needs to be, and there's nothing at all abnormal or weird about it. He seems like a really complex dude who's trying to live with some kind of meaning, I'd love to be friends with him.
This young man is extremely smarter, possibly genius , and no arrogance, than others I’ve seen question him.
The gentleman asking questions to Cliffe is awesome! I had that same level of curiosity and asking such questions led me to the Lord. I pray the same for this guy. God bless him and Cliffe
@CarlosBigC16 Can you share the resources that you used to find your answers?
@@ramonalup4296 I opened my heart and asked God to reveal himself to me, I joined a church, and I started reading the Bible
Hopefully hippie dude knows better!
The honesty and genuine sensitivity of this guy was great.
That entire episode was very informative, there were no self righteous bigots getting mad about the existance of God, no ignorant people voicing their own opinions without wanting hear a response. I wish i could of heard more questions and answers between Cliffe and the dreadlock guy. That was an interesting and productive conversation. God bless you Cliffe and dreadlock guy.
🦁✡🐑🕎🕊🙏
Your emojis, the Lion and the lamb of Judah? No cross? ✝️
@@OwenNovakChildofGod
Yes, the Lamb of God and the Lion of Judah... My old phone didn't have the cross emoji.
@@GraftedOliveBranchwe are the new Israel brother
@@deacon6221
Amen, praise Yeshua.
God bless you.
@@deacon6221Real
This gentleman asking very poignant, very relevant and very polite questions reminds me of me at that age. Total stoner thinking about the deepest meaning of life and the universe. God bless him!
I think we, as "mere men" should remember a simple but powerful truth that God Himself stated: "My ways are higher than your ways." We will never understand His ways, his reasoning.
Did your imaginary friend state that to you Barbara?
Barbara is a man?
Barbara-
On point.
Disregard the trolls here that can’t understand the generic use of terminology such as “men” referring to all mankind.
Pearls not casted...
Probably because he's not real.
@@andymaciver1760
How do you know that?
Just curious. 🤔
He could not form his question like he was thinking it. But, this pastor answered it honestly anyway in 4 words. "I do not know." which is the honest answer that should be given to why God does anything he does.
Sometimes what appears evil on the surface leads to greater growth than we'll know.
For example, without getting into detail, I was once in a severely abusive situation. I went through phases where I was angry. I lost a lot of things both material and internal. In the end, I'm discovering how to empathize directly with the person who harmed me.
Their actions were wrong and should not be tolerated, but they were also sourced from their internal suffering. We can all say we empathize with our enemies, but this person put me through the same experiences they went through as a young child.
Now I get the opportunity to end the cycle. I got to receive their hurt and with scars deep inside I had the opportunity to end the hurt. It is sad but beautiful and I could not have fully understood what experiencing the evils of the world felt like otherwise. Now healing can begin and protection of others now that I know the signs.
3:27 God gave us WILL
4:39 Life is Unfair, God is Fair
5:57 Child dies in the womb 7:03 God is Good, even through Suffering.
8:07 God is a Suffering God. Sufferers can connect with him.
9:57 _"There are all sorts of things demanding your submission and obedience"_
10:51 "Everybody submits to some authority." Everyone follows a path.
Deep Commitment
(Mild Commitment)(Sloth)
13:28 Your Will Be Done
14:23 "You don't need to submit to this authority to be Good or Decent or Happy"
"Jesus Christ helps me"
15:57 Environment Growing Up plays a part in influencing who and what we are/become
18:06 Old Testament
- Unique - Unrepeatable
God Commanded it
God could say it again, but it is not a standard to the world
19:41 Jericho
20:53 Binding of Issac
Moral Sufficient Reason
Testing Morals of God's People
22:24 My Children are Not God
Children can be sinners too
23:13 God is The Ultimate Authority
Man hates Submission
Man, to learn love, must learn Submission
25:15 God Judges
26:23 Interconnected Humanity
God is Just
God is Forgiving
God Penalizes Evil
Good summary, and a long list of serious contradictions in biblical theology which will probably never be satisfactorily answered.
@@dfjprnot contradictions. It’s the Bible read out of context. A lot of times the Bible is read, someone finds something “contradictory” then stops their study. But the Bible is connected as a whole. Books are connected as a whole. There aren’t any chapters that was introduced as an easier read later but when we just believe whatever we hear without going to God in the Word then we will be led astray.
Thanks. Will come in handy
LORD GOD!!! I’m praying rn for you to radically transform and save this man in your NAMMMMEEE!!!
I love how this guy is, he is so open minded and able to see your side without arguing intensely or getting loud, you can see the gears turning in his head. Debaters TAKE NOTES.
The man with the questions was undoubtedly difficult to listen to, but I feel like he needed to be there. I feel like there are many people like him.
He was trying and he really was trying to construct things that he never even thought of in his mind.
That I can relate to.
This guy was so respectful, I hope he gives his life to God , he has some solid questions , and was really accepting of the answers .
This young man is very insightful, clear, and sincere.
He really asked a lot of great questions we all should be able to answer. He reminds me of the one Pharisee Nicodemus that asked good questions sincerely.
Cliff and this guy is the type of conversation I aspire to have with all people, this was a true demonstration on open mindedness regarding a debate rather than just being ready to validate your own opinions instead of truly listening (and that's goes for both sides of a argument regardless of stance)
It’s a miracle that ppl are articulate now a days
This guy is channeling Jeff Goldblum in his dialogue style and I’m here for it!😀🪰
😄🦖 Cliff, uh, finds a way
I was thinking Bane from the matrix. 😂
I was thinking Adam Goldberg from Dazed and Confused 😂
God has a beautiful plan for us but because of sin People suffer
exactly someone gets it. If Gods will is perfect and someone doesn't follow/surrender to it depending on selfishness and own will it will be logical less than perfect because Gods nature is absolute perfect or it wouldnt be God in the first place
Cliffe, I want to express my sincerest thanks for your work. Your videos often come to mind when I debate others on Christianity, and even though I am not an apologetic I often use your arguments in combating their arguments.
The Lord didn't come down to Earth to lecture us, rather came down to suffer with us
*SUFFER FOR US*
@@docbainl9504Amen🙏 he suffered for us in the flesh so we may have eternal life
I enjoyed the respect shared in both sides.
This man is asking valid questions most people wouldn’t dare. If you see it like that. This is actually blessing us and helping us understand Christ more. I love these debates. God bless you my friend. I pray one day you turn to Jesus Christ 🙏🏾❤️
It is an encouraging scene. All these young people listening to this debate when they could be doing anything else. Just having an open mind to listen and think for themselves will mean better communities they choose live and engage as adults.
Sometimes I’m think, wow they are really choosing to stay there whether they are considering what he is saying or are upset or challenging it, they still choose to stay and listen. I wonder if hearing an answer they didn’t like will turn them off , but who knows if that could encourage them to look for the answer.
You believe they rehearse this conversation in their minds and think about it? Yeah, sure. They don't. Most will forget it.
One thing i like about cliffe is he admits when he doesn't know, and he doesn't just make random things up
I like how this guy carried this conversation, he was very polite, and actually seemed to learn
wow this is the first time anyone has explained about evil and free will so well. I needed that so badly.
Very glad, dread head wasn't trying to be smart or trying his best to silence Cliffe. He actually was trying to learn and reason.
This dude sounds like Nick Offerman, I love it
Just found cliff and his son's (sorry i dont know his name yet) and wow I'm loving them so much. Yeshua is the way! Repent and accept Him as your Savior before its too late ❤
He seems like he’s almost ready to accept Jesus he just still unsure but he seems opened minded about the truth
God bless you cliffe. You have some patience, I tell ya lol
That's for sure! Lol God bless you too
Idiots normally are patient.
@@unionjackjohn Cliffe is nuts.
No, Cliffe is an idiot. And you folks buy in to this craziness.
Amazing, you responded to my other comment with respect. Now I se these and realize you aren’t respectful.
Interesting that Einstein, Newton, Hawkins, etc had no patience in your opinion.
I however am not intelligent enough to continue responding to you - so if you choose to respond to this, I hope you are intelligent enough to realize I will waste no more time on you.
Best of luck to ya.
Communal judgement brings about accountability especially if the community, as a whole, knows right and wrong and the laws of God.
The patience of this pastor…
Thank you Mr. Knechtle. We love you, we pray for you. But I think so is better:
God doesnt limit His Power. God doesnt exercise His Power for reasons that we dont know, but He does know.
Thanks Cliff for what you are doing. Hope to see you some day and spend time talking.
Thanks Cliffe for making a fool of yourself on RUclips. I enjoy being entertained.
Its great how humble he is and take questions from anyone. We can all learn a lot about respectful discourse from him.
Pastor Cliffe has been & still engages in these questions & answers. They're wonderful, b/c humans are curious beings & some could come to Christ because of it. BUT there are answers about God & d universe dat probably no one on earth will live to hear or know. D best thing is for each person to do their research (+ Pastor Cliffe's answers & others by Gods grace ) on God themselves, so God can give dem d PEACE dat passes ALL UNDERSTANDING so they can be at peace with the things about God dey might never understand.
as a Muslim I really enjoyed this debate this man is really smart and inspiring xx
I just found your channel tonight and am binge watching, really love your ability to communicate the gospel to people with strong yet loving convictions
Thank you for being open to letting people question and you posting and sharing this, a lot of us have similar questions and curiosity and I’m glad we can find the knowledge here!
That’s amazing the crowd this guy is drawing to hear about Jesus. Really good to see.
Respect to this man in the grey shirt, very respectful and genuinely wants to gain knowledge on subjects. Everyone could be a little bit more like him
I am glad Cliffe has the wisdom to see who someone is. Still, proximity to a crime will get you charged. Your friend has weed in the car, the cops find it, who is guilty? Both you & him. You are the first on the scene of a murder. The cops will haul you in question you, maybe even charge you. Not because you did it, but you were there at that exact time & therefore there is a strong case to suggest it was you. Proximity will get you.
God, unlike these laws, may let you die at any moment, but he *knew* if you were guilty. God won't punish the innocent. God is just, the world is not.
Love seeing when people do agree with you Cliffe or politely disagree. This man was kind for sure. God Bless
Are you referring to the children being killed as well? Im still kinda confused about that part. My understanding was that the kids who were brought up by the evil society will likely become evil themselves because of proximity so therefore they are allowed to be killed too. Is that correct?
@@JoeMama-sd2kl
No it isn't correct.
@@mackdmara can you elaborate on that more?
@@JoeMama-sd2kl
1) I don't know the outcome by the presets. Your premise isn't pertinent to the question about the kids future.
2) If kids are killed in the destruction of an evil society it is sad, but not beyond reason in war. Innocents die in every war. That includes kids.
3) Given an innocent is killed while you destroy evil, unless that was your intent, not a biproduct, it wouldn't be a moral issue. The most moral solution was taken.
Of course, this isn't a cut & dry case. If you over simply any of my answers or don't read them charitably, then you can make it sound immoral. It wouldn't logically be do though.
Ex) If an evil society had a bomb that will destroy the world & put their own children around it to stop you from destroying their ability to use said bomb, which you have reason to think they will use, you are justified in those children dieing. It isn't the right answer, but rather the least wrong one. It is less wrong to stop this plan to destroy creation at the cost of those kids lives, given you knew that choice must be made. Those kids were dead in both choices, in this one everyone else lives. Killing the kids of these evil people is the better choice.
*What situation are you specifically asking about?*
If it was just this Philosophical moral question, since you gave a nebulous set of criteria, those answers should be right. Do the lesser evil & the greater good.
Of course, I don't know if you could know that without an objective moral set & a reasonable guide to application. You need God to know if you are doing the moral thing. Otherwise, it is your guess based on personal preference & that isn't a real moral. *If there is no Objective Good, you cannot approach it, nor define Evil objectively.*
This was such a great discussion to listen to!
God bless you Cliffe. And thankyou
This guy really explored the ideas seeking for truth in such a respectful manner
Christ also says "Death is s blessing to my saints" please look it up for tye context. But as horrific as it is to us observe a child die be WE loose but their life with Christ in eternity has just begun.
Very smart kid. I enjoyed the dialogue. Cliffe is the best!
All these questions assume a god even exists. Need to approach this by asking for evidence first. That is the REAL question.
@@mikehawk4714 Cliff always points out the evidence for his faith, however, atheists choose to not accept either the eyewitness or manuscript evidence.
@@brotherderek Eye witness manuscripts?
@@mikehawk4714 No. Those are two separate things. The credibility of the eyewitnesses and the manuscripts.
God bless you, Cliff.
I love all of Cliff videos and I thank God for using you in this way 🙏 🙌
after going buddhist for a couple years (life is suffering/ naturally very difficult-----> good karma) and i am back with Christ because i love trying to replicate His love and sacrifice more than reduction & meditation. Ultimately, my time spent with Zen was valuable and can help answer this question. you LITERALLY MUST have bad for good to exist. Something can only exist relative to other things. If everything was good, nothing would be good at all. God understands this
wrong. Light is infinite. You can't shine darkness into Light. Darkness is the absence/denial of this.
@@benwtf5539 interesting perspective and I must agree, in the same sense that there is no such thing as cold only a lack of heat. Although I feel comparing light to morality such as torture for example, is unfair because light is tangible and ‘good’ is completely abstract unless it is positioned to God
@@benwtf5539Stars cannot shine without darkness.Embrace both the light and the dark...It makes sense why we have emotions to know empathy
This was excellent.
Love the dude asking questions.
What a sincere, intellectual individual.
Majority of these smart kids challenging Cliff with questions ignores the important point here. God loves them me and you. Everyone! Glory to Jesus Christ!
The freewill to understand a topic is so respectable, God bless this man for being open minded and respectful
respectful convo on both sides
Why does God allow evil? Ask yourselves, Why did God create The tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden? Perhaps it has something to do with free will. If he created man without the option of evil then how could mankind make a choice to follow God? Choose God over what? What other option could there be other than evil? Free will is only possible with the knowledge of good and evil. God gave a commandment to not eat of the fruit of that tree. This was the test. Mankind failed the test and chose evil over good. This is why there is evil in the world.
I like this explanation
Are you forgetting about tribes that have no knowledge of the Bible or Christ?
Gotta love this guy. Very likable. Asks very thoughtful questions. You can see, in the audience of presumably primarily Christian kids, puzzled looks as though they had not thought of some of these issues. Glad this is online.
God gave man dominium over all the earth
I love the questions that the guy with the dreads is asking cliff. I love to talk about God's sovereignty and his grace in regard to the existence of evil and the origin of sin. God is so gracious that he does not violate anyone's volition, as he allows everyone to go their own way, but that his spirit does a miraculous work in the hearts of certain individuals, as he has revealed himself clearly and plainly in his creation and our consciences, and that though we are responsible and held accountable for going against our conscience via lying or stealing or any of the other commandments, he has given mankind a way out, and that is simply to believe his word, Jesus, and follow him. Babies and small children go straight to heaven if they die before the age of accountability. Those who never hear of God or the gospel are judged by what light is giving them, because God has revealed himself in his creation and in our consciences, meaning people in Faraway tribes who have never seen a Bible will be held accountable for their actions according to their god-given consciences. The Bible says that no one is responsible for anyone else's sin and that we are each held accountable individually according to the moral law, but that Jesus made that possible by giving his life as payment to satisfy the law of sin and death. "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus."- Romans 6:23. Whoever reads this, if you've ever asked the question "if God knew there would be such death and destruction, why did he do it? Why did he create Us in the first place and let us go through all of this?" The answer is simple. You'd be worth it to him.
I appreciate the young mans questions about fairness and when he brings up a child dying. I am that parent. For a while despite my faith - I was angry. However, my anger is gone and I thank God everyday for the 2 1/2 years I had with my son. I don’t ask why anymore….I now look at it as he is fulfilling his purpose that he was created for. As parents after losing our son - our perspectives on life has done a complete flip. Family comes first. Money means nothing nor does it bring happiness. My son in his short 2 1/2 years taught me more about life and love than I had learned in 36 years. He taught us how our priorities were messed up. I believe my son was born for greater purposes this life here on Earth could possibly give him. I know he is fighting the battles right now we do not see. I could never deny him that. I will forever be grateful for his life. And in his death - it essentially gave me life. As we went through brain cancer with him - the book of Job was always forefront in my mind.
I love your videos and am real glad you're still making them. I used to watch you on Australian TV years ago.
So you are also gullible?
@@mikehawk4714 ... Message me when modern technology advances enough for you Atheists to recreate Abiogenesis ✌️
@@4LoveAndJustice That's your response? LMAO
@@4LoveAndJustice First let's see a theist re create it. Not a god, a theist.
@@mikehawk4714 ... Message me when modern technology advances enough for you Atheists to recreate Abiogenesis ✌️
God bless you thank you for showing us the way to talk to the youth of our day.
Great stuff Cliff ❤
Whyyyy does this end here!?!? 😭
Enjoyed both sides of this, wish i could have seen how it ended
Dread head has a great voice for a new character on the Simpsons. He would make a fortune! Seriously though, this guy is a searcher and asks some really good questions!
I love this, what he is doing. Becsuse even if he doesnt win anybody over today, he at least made them think, he planted the seed! Look at all of these young ones sitting and listening! Praise God for these things!
Paused at 22:17 If I was gonna say what is more important, family or money. I'd say money because I can't feed family with family. However to contradict myself, I can't feed family with money. I suppose at the end of the day there are many ways to feed said family, it all depends on what's easier. Taking the whole family onto a farm to grow your food and trading it for other things you might need. Or working a 9 to 5 job for money to buy food for the family and other things you might need. Both ways are an option depending on said family's life style.
Dreadlocks has NO debating foundation. Cliffe helps this guy out so well
Man I just love a good healthy respectful debate and discussion...especiallywhen Jesus wins
Jesus is lost.
@@mikehawk4714 man His victory has already been won I pray that one day you find Jesus for yourself and celebrate with Him and glorify Him
@@michealbradley2018 Where is he hiding?
@@michealbradley2018 His victory has already been won?
Takes a long drag off the cig....you wouldn't understand.
I appreciate this conversation. These were difficult questions but I liked how Cliffe answered them the best he could!
Thanks Cliffe some great discussions there
cliff I've been listening for a while now. What must you do to be saved?
Jerod Durnal There are two things you need to do...
The first thing is repent and not only repent, but turn from your sins...
The second is put your trust in Jesus...instead of trusting your own goodness to take you to Heaven, transfer that trust into Jesus... put Him on and trust in Him like you trust in a parachute...
The Bible says "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " - Romans 9:10
Paulie is correct.
Look up Cliffe’s church and call him. I am sure they will get back to you and help.
He makes So many videos over so many years that they don’t follow in comments.
Oh yeah, and to Paulie-
Well said. Ya sound like you like a guy named Ray that many take Comfort in watching online! Haha.
See ya in heaven.✝️
i know this is incredibly late, but may i offer a different perspective. yes, repentance and faith are parts of salvation, most all christian agree on that point. however, there is more to the story. on the day of pentecost, in the book of Acts, chapter 2. god has poured out his own spirit that he had promised, the comforter to the disciples. and after that, lots of people came to see what was going on, who were jews. and peter preached to them. and once they were convicted that they had killed the messiah, they were really distraught. and they said, “what should we do?” in other words, after they realized that they killed god in the flesh, they were probably really scared. and they wanted to “get right with God.” get saved. and peter gave them a very easy answer. Repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and receive the Holy Ghost. all other means of being saved line up with that. that day was the birth of the church, and all these letters were written to churches who understood this salvation message. a good book for further study is “The New Birth” by David K Bernard. contact me with questions!
No one knows why God allows for certain types of evil - only God can answer that. On the flip side, the fact that real evil does exist is actually proof of an objective good - and the fact that objective good exist is proof that God does exist. Evil is not a thing that stands on its own, but rather the lack of another thing (good). For example, shadows doesn't exist on its own, its only the lack of sun light. Sun can exist without shadows, but shadows can't exist without the sun. The same with evil, evil cannot exist without an objective standard of good, hence proving the existence of a God. But why God allows for certain types of evil to occur (like rape, hunger, cancer, etc.) that is a long philosophical discussion.
***** Hi Mike, don't you think that mankind could have evolved their morality over a very long period ,we arose from an early form of man which realised the potential of working together as a group, there were great benefits to be had from collective hunting for example ( I am going back maybe 100,000 years or more now to early cavemen). We are social creatures who essentially work better in groups, over time, we have honed our skills and developed our morality for the good of the group, even to the point whereby we care for those who are ill or sick. We see similar behaviour in other animals. That's how I see it anyhoo.
bonnie43uk If you truly take that stance that our morality evolved, then you can't truly say what Hitler did was objectively wrong? right? If mankind just evolved and happen to choose the best outcome of morality for the benefit of mankind... and someone in the group (Hitler) wants to go against the norm and kill people for his own beliefs, how then is that objectively morally wrong? Its not by your worldview. But the fact remains that everyone, every human (unless you're a psychopath) knows in their heart that killing people simply for being of different race/color is objectively wrong. Hence being proof that objective moral values do exist. This is one example. Other examples are killing loved ones for fun, killing babies for sport, rape, etc. Everyone one knows these are objectively wrong. Where does this objective moral standard come from? I think you know.
bonnie43uk You deem homosexuality perfectly acceptable? sure...but do you think its perfectly normal for a man to have sex with another man?... serious question. Not whether you can tolerate or accept it, but do you feel in your heart that it is humanly natural for a man to have sex with another man?
Fine, we fundamentally disagree on that issue. Regarding your point about objective morals being objective because its what we come to know. Wrong, you're touching on moral epistemology (how we come to know what is right or wrong), I'm speaking on moral ontology (what is the basis for something being good or evil?). Just because you believe homosexuality is natural, doesn't mean its objectively natural. Just because we know Hitler was wrong, doesn't mean it was objectively wrong. It was objectively morally wrong because of a standard that was set within all human beings. We know it it. If I had time and cared enough, I'd continue my discussion with you on the homosexual topic and argue that you truly know its wrong, you just have come to accept it. Regarding your point about whether or not God was right/wrong about commanding people to be killed, slaughtered, etc. Obviously if God is "real" and is the creator all life/humans/universe, he obviously have a reason for what he did. Also, if you take that portion of the bible to be true (do you?) then you must take the reason for Jesus existence as true (do you?) - I doubt. You can't argue Leviticus and then deny the New Testament. You have to accept it all. Which is it?
***** Hi Mike, as far as I can ascertain there is very little historical evidence for Moses being a real character, there is zero evidence that he led the Israelites into Egypt for 40 years. Certainly if he did exist. I do not believe he interacted with God ( I don't believe God exists). There may well have been some charismatic leader of that name, but certainly I don't believe he had any supernatural dealings with God. Of course, if I read Christian or Islamic literature they will say he existed. There are probably tiny nuggets of truth here and there regarding certain battles that did occur, but overall, I think he's more legend and myth than real, or if real, then history has turned him into something he wasn't.
I regard Jesus in the same vein, I don't believe he existed, certainly not in the guise of The son of God, who came down to earth, born of a virgin, performing lots of miracles, dying on the cross, then coming back to life after 3 days and rising into heaven. If you take away the Gospel accounts, there is practically nothing written about this man from non biblical sources around the time. I think we've spoken about this before Mike. You are free to believe it, but I remain very sceptical. I do understand that to say Jesus is a myth is very much going against the grain, but I have yet to see any convincing evidence of his existence. The Gospels are written in the form of a story more than a historical account, and they don't seem to match up, whilst other parts look as if they've been copied word for word from eachother.. I think Luke and Matthew are good examples of where they have both copied from Mark and then embellished the story further. I'm certainly no biblical expert, but it's fascinating for me to read about the gospels.
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Regarding homosexuality, have you ever thought how you'd react if any of your own children turned out gay?, I'm sure you'd still love them, but do you think you would try and dissuade them from being gay? Or would you just accept it?.
I don't think people choose to be gay, some people are just born that way. Far better to accept them for who they are then to try and tell them their behaviour is sinful and against Gods wishes.. filling them with guilt and doubt about their own sexuality. As I say, this goes back to our morality evolving, society is dictating what we deem as moral, these things don't happen overnight, they are discussed, lobbied, and a gradual change occurs. This also doesn't mean that other sexual activities like paedophilia will become moral as others have suggested, society dictates that we protect children from such sexual activity, I cannot envisage a time when such an activity would ever become moral. Homosexuality isn't a slippery slope towards depravity. Obviously you may disagree, but that's fine, all discussion is good. Life isn't perfect, it's constant "work in progress".
God bless this man
The good old days when people respected the opinions of others
God is not fair. Nowhere in the bible does it say He is fair.
God is just. Big difference.
A Whether Moments Poet Natascha Kampusch agrees. What happened to her was just.
+A Whether Moments Poet Do you think that God is unfair? Do you think that giving billions of undeserving people all the chances they need for eternal life unfair? Is justice not fair? Is righteousness not fair? Is mercy, and grace not fair?
+A Whether Moments Poet One can argue that just is correlated to fairness
very naive
My favorite episodes, these guys REALLY break down the complexity of God and act like God is a simpleton. Far from it, haha!
My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust the sweetest frame but wholly lean on Jesus name.
On Christ the solid rock I stand all other ground is sinking sand.
All other ground is sinking sand.
I like this guy, He is a thinker.
We're all born into "an unfair, unjust world"... THAT GOD CREATED.
Jim Wilson And GAVE US FREE WILL
God created evil, it's in the bible, check it out.
Jim Wilson Help me out where that is, I can't find it.
bmlsb KJV, Isaiah 45:7.
Jim Wilson He created it, you're here, he loves you, he gave you free will to make the right choice, chose wisely...Thank you Jim
I'm sure Mr. Knechtle loves God and wants to see others come to Christ, but his theology is pretty wonky in just the first few minutes. God limits his power to give us free will? Life is not fair but God is fair? Where is any of this in the Bible? What the Bible does say is nothing good or bad happens that the Lord has not commanded to happen (Lamentations 3:37-38). And if God was fair, we'd all be dead because that is what we deserve (Romans 6:23). Thank God he isn't fair! He is just. Know the difference.
Where Knechtle says (about 3:50 or so), "I can't love her as a human being if I'm not free. Love demands freedom." He's right, but not as he understands it. Titus 3:3 says before we came to Christ, we were enslaved to the passions of the flesh, hated by others and hating one another. But then, as it goes on in v.5 to say, Christ saved us, not by works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy. Before Christ we were slaves. More than that, we were dead (Ephesians 2:1). We were capable of nothing good (Romans 3:12) until Christ set us free.
"This is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1 John 4:10). Just preach the gospel. Avoid human logic. Stick to the Scriptures. Proclaim the Word of God.
WWUTT Hi there. I am a subscriber to your channel, and I enjoy watching your content. How can I understand the Bible better? Furthermore, there is this other channel called TMM. He was criticizing a few of your videos but in a bad way. Just wanted you to know. Thanks and God bless.
Hi there! But why you saying that life is not fair. And we all know that it got was to be fair we all are condemn. But in the Bible we get where people do good things like for example Paul and many other Christians and they got killed for it, that is not fair for them to preaching the Good news. This is what life is trying to make the distinction. What do you think?
@@MegaNerd117hi Louis can you help me find the TMM channel that you mention because I can't find it.
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Praise the Lord
Amen and Hallelujah !
Love this kid. Hope he is still thinking.
This was right before instagram became extremely popular. Love watching young students not glued to the phone.
If the life of a child or innocent person is taken by God's order they will be with God in Heaven for eternity which is much better than being in a fallen world.
Brillant! His children asking each other and Him, but receiving no answer from Father itself