BUY The M2 Mac mini! (It's basically a $599 Mac Pro...)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The M2 Mac mini update was supposed to be a pretty boring product refresh, and for the most part - it is. Because it's kind of the same Mac mini box that has existed for the past 10 years, but Apple did something kind of Insane that made this product make me examine it from an entirely different angle... they dropped the price by $100, put in a more powerful M2 chip, and by chance... they made this M2 Mac mini computationally stronger than the $5999 Mac Pro that they still sell on their website.
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I just went from a 2014 MacBook Pro to a base M2 mini and the speeds in Lightroom are ridiculously fast. I’m more than happy with my purchase
Thanks for saying what the SSD speed actually translates to in real use. I ordered the base model when they first went live then I hear about other channels saying it’s so much slower than the upgraded storage options. I almost canceled my order to spend extra for the 512GB but I’m glad you showed the 256GB is just fine for the things I want to use it for
Agreed. The slower speed SSD with 256 GB is completely overblown on many reviews. It is still very fast, faster than any external USB 3.2 SSD (which are not slow!).
You will regret not getting the 512 drive - you will deny that fact but it is always the case
It if plenty fast.
BuT LoOk At ThE BeNChMarKS!
I want one for my dedicated desktop
Great post. Agreed with you on so many points. And yes, todays Mac's have gotten so fast the benchmark numbers are almost meaningless.
I think it's really a very nice Mac Mini. However, upgrading it to 16 GB memory and a 512 SSD shouldn't be as expensive! In general these Mac upgrade prices are literally insane considering they cannot be upgraded later, anymore!
Seriously.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Meh. I’m an old geezer on a pension and I started saving when my original 2012 Mac Mini died a few months ago. I had enough for an M2 with 16GB RAM and a 1 TB internal drive, and next month I’m gonna get a 4K off-brand monitor, so…
I’ll spare you the tedious boomer rant about how kids nowadays just don’t know how to manage their money, eh?
This is my issue with all Apple products. I try to buy each item looking at 5 years of service (at least) so far I’ve been successful. The pay for it up the wahzoo now bcuz u can’t upgrade. Apple charges $1000 for 4TB ssd and a Samsung 870 evo 4TB is $325. Insane profit margin. But if I want to future proof my device I have to eat it now. My programs and photos take over 1 Tb so I don’t even look at less than 2TB
Overtime and my bonus for the win
Mac Studio for the expandability or the m2 mini for the processor upgrade. ? Why I’m here
I'm an old geezer too, who spent his retirement on keeping his mom alive and going. FWIW, the apple tax on memory etc is damn high. They should compete on value!
I wish Apple would show the SSD speeds on the upgrade tiers on their website. I'd like it to be simpler to tell how much of an upgrade you're getting for the money outside of just larger capacity.
I thought the same thing!
I always loved the Mac mini, and I'm happy to see it is alive and kicking.
It's thriving
I agree. I received my base level M2 mini yesterday. This little machine if flying though what I use it for. Good for at least 4 years. A great value for the money.
I’d even argue the M1 stuff was insanely powerful as is. I still remember when their Intel products were still around. I’m so glad that Intel Mac Mini is finally gone from the site!
I am still on Intel 4-th generation, 16GB ram, 1440p display, and still is fine :) you dont need 2K-6K machines to browse internet and watching Netflix :]
100% agree with everything Greg said in this video. I have yet to talk to someone that was disappointed getting an Apple Silicon Mac - even the recent controversial ones.
Great review, I was given an old 2012 iMac that I'm working on and can feel the times it's sluggish. I always liked the look and compact design of the Mac mini and would love to get one (when I can afford it). One thing that I have not seen in any reviews (granted you're reviewing the Mac mini only) is the additional cost of having to purchase a monitor and possibly a new keyboard/mouse that can add to that cost.
right there with you. I have a similar 2012 27" iMac that has started to feel slow on occasion. An M2 Mac Mini & a Samsung M8 seems like at good way to go. Thinking I'll continue to use my old wireless keyboard and trackpad. They're still working great.
I think people are using more apps and power than what we think an average person is using. All of this matters even for an entry level computer. I don’t remember being so aggravated 10 years ago with the amount of web pages open or apps open to run something. These tasks are so intense nowadays that you need more power to be an “average” person! I think this machine will work great, don’t get me wrong, but Apple really did us wrong with the current SSDs and memory $$ increase for what it costs them… ugh.
I was editing my photos with a 2010 i5 750. I think I will be fine with an M2 and 16 GB
I’ve never owned a Mac before and I didn’t think I was going to start. But the value on this seemed too good to ignore. Got one on the way and I’m anxious to give it a shot. If I don’t like it, thank god for Costco and their awesome return policy.
Any updates?, im thinking about doing the same
@@calicancer661 I have one in my possession but I haven’t set it up yet. Pretty much just because the keyboard I ordered hasn’t arrived yet. Hopefully today or tomorrow.
@@christopheresser9330 I’d be on the same situation I’d have to buy the keyboard and mouse aswell
insane power with crippled ssd?...
so you made the mistake and bought a base model POS base models that are 8x256 are usless , FYI if you have bluetooth problems you have something near by or in your home giving you problems i have absolutly no problems with my M1 mini and i order a 16x512 model when i ordered mine its now boarder line with 16 gigs now but if your smart you can avoid swap , i have been looking at the new m2 mini and if i order one its going to get maxed out for ram and top end on the rest other then the SSD will likley go 512 or 1tb max as i dont need more then that given all my apps other hten video editors and music and browers all run internal drive everything else runs off external ssd's.. bench marks never really do matter anty how real world tests speak more to real peroformance benchmarkes are not real in the big picture
Man, I agree with all the points you make. Thank goodness they dropped the price for the base model Mac mini, probably because it didn't sell well for what they were offering. The M1 was great for price to performance, but that price is hard to swallow for someone who can also get a mini pc for less and does the job decently well (usually for light workloads). And I'm assuming competition is just gonna get fiercer, hence the drop in price.
Actual reason for price drop is that they have removed magic ssd which was used in M1 mac mini model
So for general use going from an outdated late 2015 iMac to the base Mac mini is a no brainer?
If I'm editing off of external SSDs in Final Cut, do I need to worry about slower performance with the base model M2 Mac mini?
I love the way you do your videos. Spot on, entertaining, informative. Thank you Greg.
Was feeling buyer’s remorse as all the reviewers are trashing the base model. Just couldn’t justify the $200 more for 512. Don’t do heavy editing or development, just daily user. Would’ve liked to go huge but come on, include a monitor and your looking at well over $1K. Not in my budget.
Thank you, Greg. Appreciate your perspective.
Saw your video .very useful for common user👍👍👍
I really like your background. Can you put your typewriter into the foreground :)
Thanks! Right in front? lol.
@@GregsGadgets yeah :) old school is cool.
i love that typewriter too 😊
@@rawmarrow I have a 1910 Underwood :)
@@GregsGadgets See Im not the only one :)
People always seem to forget that in Europe, the Mac mini costs €699 ($763)
I got one yesterday and its $799 cdn ... but no issues so far.
in Ireland it's 730 euro
We didn’t forget we just don’t care. Js
@@nq54 Yikes
@@omarbagent9829 Maybe it’s also because in most US states, taxes aren’t included in the MSRP.
Lol and yet it’s still so portable. Say for instance you take that with you visiting a friends’ or parents. So there’s already an external monitor set up there- perfect. Or, if you have iPad. Just use that as the monitor. Such a great machine!!
Well done, Greg. Nice video, mate.
256 GB still doesn't seem like a whole lot of space.....Probably going to have to get at least a 1 TB SSD external drive to use them both together....or even replace the 256 GB SSD drive itself. I have that 21.5 in 2013 iMac you are talking about and it is BEYOND slow right now......I am tempted to just take out the HHD drive and switch it to a 1 TB SSD drive and the 8 GB of ram to the max 16 GB of ram......IDK i am nervous about tinkering lol but enough is enough with the speed and i really do not want to buy a whole new computer when i can "mod" my old one to work better than ever
In 2023, no one should have a 256 storage or 8 gigs of ram. The base should be 512 of storage and 16gigs of ram.
You guys never mention if any of the Mac's will be good for trading platform (stocks).
Yea sure a $599 mac pro with 8gb ram and 256gb storage.
if you order this machine, pay a little more and get the 512ssd and 16gb. It's worth it. As a photographer, I do tons of photography edits and it was well worth it for me.
Good review. The base mac mini M2, as a minimalist system, is certainly an acceptable compromise at $600US and even less with student discounts. Simplicity is so rarely understood.
U sir, convinced me to go buy one today.
Its NOT a $599 Mac pro, the $599 version has a very slow SSD , it is fast, but a Mac pro is expandable ( and flawed) but comparing them just isn't a fair proposition .
I would spec it out to 16GB Ram and that’s it… I would and am using all external drives
the question for me is upgrade to 512gb and 16gb ram or buy the m2 mini pro.......?? (for audio and 4k video) Any advice welcome. Unfortunately I'm paying in UK pounds
Greg, what keyboard and pad do you use? Thanks.
I think you really hit it on the head. The basic Mac mini, or MacBook Air, are fantastic machines that will be great for most people out there, and will often out perform monster Intel based Macs from just a few years ago. If you are a pro user, then you will want a more specced out model, but most of the people will be fine with the base model.
The apple education discount drops this Mac mini to $499 which is the best deal in all of tech.
i feel sad that i don't want to get this product. It has most of the features which i want and also cheaper, but only downside is i have lg c1 tv which needs hdmi 2.1 spec for me to run 4k 120. I can't go back to 60hz anymore, feels too choppy.
Apple now has almost the perfect Mac line up covering all user requirements the last one of course is for those high end users who buy MacPro once that transition is done to Apple Silicon they have it nailed across the board Great video and really useful
yes, like you said - almost. For me, the issue with it is inability to play pretty much any games on a Mac. And then it does not make sense for me to switch from PC to Mac, since I would need the PC anyway to run newer games.
It’s not perfect because their monitors cost $1500+. You’ll need a magic keyboard and a Magic Mouse too. That’s already way over $2k. I’d be perfect if Apple had a cheaper monitor.
Im gonna get the entry with the hub to sit under it and put a 1tb drive in the hub. That should last me 5-7 years. Is as customers should be able to sue these company’s. The people who purchased that crazy expensive Mac Pro cheese grater they are crying right now
Mac Mini M1 w/ 256g is $499 at costco. do i need the m2, or will the m1 be just fine? i only do office and web surf. no photo shop, rendering, etc.
Bro go on apple and education at the bottle and shop for college and it’s 499 for m2 528 with tax
@@Lub22 thanks!
@@MisterChris1978 I meant bottom instead of bottle btw
I am about to upgrade from my 27" 2010 iMac, so anything will be a great upgrade at this point. Just for some context, I have upgraded the memory to 8Gb on this machine and I also upgraded the hard drive to 3TB. It is however pretty slow so I am unable to really multitask much so I am looking forward to getting something I can listen to music while I edit photos. The Mac mini I am probably getting will be the middle tier with the 512GB SSD and upgraded to 16GB memory. I am still uncertain which monitor I am going to go with, but I don't want to down grade, so it will have to be at least 27" and perhaps 4K, but I don't know yet....
Is it better to buy Mac Mini M2 24/512 or Mac Mini M2 Pro 16/512. M2 Pro is a little more expensive but have 2 more ports and HDMI 2.1 instead of 2.0, but In base M2 you have 24 GB of RAM! Can someone please advise
Provided student has another 300 bucks on a monitor and keyboard
Greg, great video and perspective on relative performance for the cost. Crushing a $6000 base Mac Pro's compute power with a $600 Mac Mini is nuts. Nicely done!
To be clear, on a large project, even a base MacPro would still handle that better than base MacMini as it has more resources (32 GB RAM, 512 GB...). But an upgraded MacMini (24 GB, 512 GB storage) would be very competitive for 1/6 of the price.
If you turn it 180 degrees the ports will be in the front ;-)
I still wonder how this compares to Nvidia speeds. It's all hype about the M2Pro (Mini or 14/16 inch), but not sure how OpenCL scores reflect true performance in Davinci Resolve.
Unfortunately I do not have 4k$ to find this out myself :(.
It works just fine with Davinci Resolve and the ultrastudio monitor 3g for your monitor
You buy this and a keyboard and mouse, a good screen, and a good external ssd and a big external mechanical hard drive. Then you have an amazing computer and you just change the brain (the mac mini) every 3 years and keep the rest, so you just invest 600 dollars and maybe sell the old one for 300, so 100 dollars per year to have an updated machine.
Do you do music production, do you do music, do you make music, do you use a DAW, do you... come on people. Almost all these channels mention multiple usual tasks above the basic level, but for some reason are continuing to fail to mention music production. Yes, I would suspect that the basic spec model isn't going to get the job done nor run a multiple level of plugins at once, but I would still be interested to see about what it can actually accomplish within the base model for shicks and grins. I used an ancient iMac up to last summer when it finally gave up the ghost running Logic & REAPER. Thinking about grabbing the new mini with 16gb and 1TB SSD upgrades?!
Could you please measure the Neural Engine speed by creating a MacOS Shortcuts shortcut with the following actions: (1) Repeat loop 10x, (2) Screen capture full screen 4K, (3) Extract Text using OCR. My M1 Mini can run this loop in 41 seconds. Can the M2 or M2 Pro go much faster? This test combines the SSD with the Neural Engine, which is what I need to know.
That waas a great ad
8:59 apple ask. do you have 600bucks spend every month. take this ultra PRO we give you it 150buck/month 3year.
after year that machine is slower that cheapest. apple know his stuff. you allways need newest FULL price upgrade.
raspberry pi do all those basic stuff on 35buck
Err...No it's not! .........Mac Pro maximum memory is a whopping 1.5Tb... Max M2 Mac mini memory is just 32gb !!
love your shirt
Doesn’t this have a crappy SSD or do fanbois just ignore that?
Very sensible advice. Kinda tired of hearing all the other RUclips creators saying "you need the M2 Pro Mac Mini to get a good computer" (based upon THEIR professional usage models, not the average user).
Can you use a mid 2011 21.5 iMac as a display for the new m2 base model Mac mini?
Apple providing the best value for the price? As an android user I don’t know how to feel.
I’m using a 2017 21” iMac for the home office and looking at the M2 Mac mini base model as the upgrade if using the iMac as a display with Duet Display is a good solution.
Slow SSD = Apple Scam
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Some videos saying not to buy this version and this video is opposite. Quite confused how to follow such RUclips videos and take decisions
Which software you used to for video editing M2 Mini ? How's the experience?
I love the Mac mini. I hope they never change the form factor. I already have 2 of them. An stacked they look great! Hahahaha... If I could make the Mac mini perfect I would use this form factor or the studio. The Studio form factor but then with a cheap M2 mini inside of it. Then you also have room for a battery and a good speaker. Then it would be perfect! Oh, and should have a option to remotely turn it on like you turn on a lamp...hehehe... hey, a guy can dream, right...
👌👌👍👍
In australia, base model, $899! (Sale price, normal $999) m2 mini pro … $1169! Don’t ya just love currency rates … 🤑🤮
But with a slower SSD? According to Max
Can I use the Dell 24 inch touchscreen monitor on this ? Does touchscreen driver work ?
$600 for a slow 256gb ssd, 8 gigs of ram? powerful to do what? surf the web and check email? nothing else can do with it, no thanks
My M1 ( 16/256) is still a beast.
I appreciate your video
but did you actually run the test like everyone else who has reviewed this unit
to show that it has the slowest SSD Apple has put in any computer and three years
and that it doesn't matter what the spec show
it still is slower than the last Intel-based model
certainly every other website couldn't be wrong
people singing the praises of this particular unit is ludicrous
it's worth even less than the asking price because of how deathly slow it is
any Mac with these chips depends entirely on the speed of the SSD as we all know
this one has an abysmally slow SSD in the 599 unit
everybody else is already shown that
specs mean nothing when the testing shows its false
offense intended stop making people want to go spend $600 on something that isn't what it's supposed to be
No way to add expandable storage like the m1???
This thought just came to my mind; in order to get a fully upgradable Apple computer, you have to pay a minimum of $6,000. SMH! Does that make anyone else laugh?
I ordered the base model with 16GB.
Thanks Greg. A sensible video.
Thank you
great video, if you have the time can you test the basic mac mini m2 for video games
Words of Wisedom: “Just buy it!”
OMG,you just talk and talk and say almost nothing......
Finally a decent review for an average consumer
Is 8GB Ram enough?
What are you using it for? If you can spare $200 the 16gb is worth it, but if you can’t the 8GB machine still run’s nicely.
How about the jump from 16gb to 24gb? I do music production and web development.. which should I get ..a m2 mini 24gb ram 256ssd or m2 pro 16gb 512ssd?
@@loaiforever5155 the m2 pro, hands down.
It's not bad because they keep the same "*uck u consumer" in regards of ssd speed choice - you might consider re-think that part again mate.
That outdated overpriced MAC PRO Apple are STILL selling needs to be killed off , hard to believe anyone anywhere would actually fall for such a con trick when this budget Mac mini out performs it at a fraction of the cost .
It would be interesting to know how many MacPro were sold on the last quarter!
@@jeanjasinczuk7543 well they do say a fool and his money are soon parted, bet Apple don’t release any figures for an item that fails to make sense.
The MacPro is the only Intel Mac still sold. A customer of MacPro could be a company that needs to need to replace an existing Mac and require a specific software that works only for Intel. There are other options to get Intel Mac but for some company, buying from Apple is the way to go.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Lots of good videos over the years.
Keep on going. 🙂
Slow SSD speeds?
Slower SSD speeds but not "slow"
@@GregsGadgets which size ssd are faster
@@GregsGadgets Agree. 10 years ago, the incredible speed of that "slow" SSD in that base Mac mini would have cost $10000.
It is my next purchase.
not 599$ - 649£ :) plus kayboard and mouse will be 800£ for 900£ you will get imac with m1 in perfect condition im not sure if this m2 is a good deal :/
My basemodel mac mini m2 works better than my old workstation with a gtx 1080 11 gig graphics card with Resolve
The 8GB on the base model is so disappointing. Would it kill the most profitable company in the world to have given an extra 8GB?! Memory is cheap these days. C'mon Apple!
You are right too much bench mark video
The disc read write speed drastically improves with the 512 GB SSD.
is that right? Awesome, I was worried about latency issues since I would be using for music production.
"BUY The M2 Mac mini!" No. $600 is still too much for a computer I'll barely turn on. A lot of people can barely keep food on their table. $600 is still a luxury item.
Why you are remind me of Indiana Jones? Good review! Thank you for your video!!!
Say you get the 512 GB M2 Mac Mini, then you upgrade the Ram to 16GB, your then like 300 bucks from the M2 Pro model... Would you go there for light gaming only? (Not for productivity)
No gaming. If you need gaming think of something else.
for gaming purpose, I would rather go with a Windows desktop setup. For video editing etc, definitely Mac, hands down!
Looking for a Mac Mini for video editing with iMovie 4K 60fps HDR from iPhone. Do you think the base model should suffice?
When some RUclipsrs test this Mac mini ssd, I am curious who always copy and paste 42GB data in one time😂😂😂😂
It doesn’t matter!😅
My philosophy on everything
In Europe the base model is € 719
Will this be able to edit 4k footage?
I have a 2012 MacBook Pro. Everything works perfectly fine but the only problem is that it takes 1 hour to render/export 5 minutes of 4k footage.