Growing up in the early 60's, as a child, I actually owned two pairs of white gloves at 5 years old to wear on special occasions as Miss Kilgallen did. I even learned the proper way to drape them over my handbag at an event that required eating where one would not "wear" gloves when one might get food on them, but you still had to "have" them. I'm still in awe of my mother telling me she used to go grocery shopping in a skirt-suit with hat, stockings, gloves, and heels. I'm impressed with myself if I don't wear my sweatpants to Walmart. She was also a professional housekeeper and mother. At that same time period, she would mop, dust and vacuum the house EVERY day. She made every meal from scratch, and still took time to make toys and play with my sister and me every day. She made "homemade" play doh to teach us to make doll accessories, created toy kitchen appliances out of boxes, and made her own bubble liquid to blow monster bubbles. It took me about 20 years to realize what an amazing woman she was. In her teens, she was hired by a newspaper as a fashion illustrator (she was very artistic), but put her heart and soul into making a wonderful household after meeting my father.
One of the wildest girls I knew became a librarian. I think she felt it allowed her to disarm the expectations of a disapproving world. She was a lovely girl who just wanted to have fun. And she left us too soon.
Yes. That's where they hide all that stuff they don't want us to know. In this case they use it to sell a product. Hollywood actors. I'd like to see the word ZIONISM discussed. It's certainly well represented.
More so than today. Although tremendous antisemitism in New York (Italian and Irish) Saw her Basin Street nightclub in the Fifties or Sixties. Tremendous! Brought the house down as they say.
WTF are YOU talking about. I grew up around the West Side of NYC when gang warfare was common and Jewish neighbourhoods were overrun with antisemitism. `West Side Story` (the original) documents. In London ditto today. Golders Green, Colindale, STamford Hill (old Jewish neighbourhoods) not only are in receipt of masssive migration but massive migration of antisemitism. This is the F+ of what I am talking about. When I saw Streisand Basin Street in the Fifties, the Mc (Irish) came out there and made vicious antisemite remarks before Streisand appeared. Streisand herself remarks about some of this. She passes it off. Well she should as she has risen aoove it, big time. Possibly she excuses it. But if Barbara had not ended up as a rich as she is and as successful she`d be living like the rest of Jewry tryingto fend off antisemitism and to get parity medical, employment, houisng, education.
Streisand’s talent was so overwhelmingly obvious that old show business welcomed her with open arms. She had kind of a soft landing into stardom, even though she was new corduroy rubbing against their old silk.
What’s My Line was such a simple but classy, urbane, sophisticated production when John Daly and the original panel were on the show. The later syndicated versions not so much.
@@kingforaday8725 from what I read, she was told she shouldn’t alter her nose because it was her signature look. In addition, she was afraid it might affect her voice if she did get a nose job.
This is soooo 😎!! I love how everyone is dressed formally, they shake hands, are so complementary to each other, and I loved their politeness!! Wow!! What was life like back then??
Dorothy has an incredible intellectual talent of homing in on facts. Watch many of these programs. She cannot be matched by anyone. Too bad she didn't realize she was been setting up at her end.
Gil Fates wrote about Streisand's comment of watching WML as a child before bedtime as her last weekend activity before returning Monday to school. She further told Fates and his crew that her parents allowed her to watch WML at 10:30 pm providing she had finished all her homework for school the next day. "It was sobering for those of us who were clinging to the myth of youth."
Barbra was only 22 years young in this episode. Looks so mature. Very talented. ****2024 Update. Overdue thanks to everyone for all the likes. You're awesome.**** 😊
NITRO!!!!! BOOOOM!!!!! My whole family watched What's my Line? and we had a ball watching it. A lot of the panel is no longer with us, but I got to meet mr. Cerf when I was eight years old. He was a very nice man, and signed an autograph for me. Thanks for posting this....brings back a lot of memories....I remember my Mother's bouffant hair do! :)
I find these WML programs to be totally addictive. Witty, sophisticated, smart - cosmopolitan in a way we no longer see. I do wish they would say what it was that clicked in the correct answer for them.
I rehearsed for a film at a studio in Manhattan; the lady who owned it said Barbra Streisand used to practice singing and always rented the cheapest room for like $8.00 an hour.
Her song 'Woman In Love' has been translated and performed in many languages and I first knew her in early 80's through one of those translated cover songs and loved that song immensely. After 20 years or so, I saw her movie The Way We Were and I was deeply amazed at her. She's beautiful in every way.
Barbra Streisand. Like it or not, she is the highest-paid, most successful female musician and singer in the history of music. She is not going away anytime soon.
***** The one and only. Saw her live at MSQ in NYC in 1994 during the first comeback tour. I traveled three hours by mass transit from CT. It was like church, no lie. My whole section was weeping we were so overcome with joy. When she opened with Never Said Goodbye and landed on that killer high note - I though I would pass out. I was in my 30s. Forget the Beatles. Elvis who? Gimme Babs any day of the week.
Way too liberal for my tastes, like most Hollywood types. I have so much respect for Reba McEntyre - she recently declared spouting off politics was not her job! I already thought she was miles ahead of most, but then again there’s just something so much more to Southern and midwestern personalities in general. But I did love Arlene Francis!
What a bag of steaming crap! She is way down the line financially. She is worth less than half of Madonna. Do a little research before opening your mouth.
I like how in both of her MG appearances, she signed her name in an unusual way. The next time she came on this show, she signed as "My Name Is Barbra", in honor of her first television special.
Enjoyed this episode. You can tell how in awe Barbara was to be there after watching WML on TV since she was young. I was a little underwhelmed with Bennett's awful jokes tonight but Arlene was funny trying to dance around the questions with John.
Check out time slot 7:19 to 7:43. The audience groans, the contestants shake their heads, Arlene sings a little tune to cover it up, and John Daly says, "New Mexico and Utah, you've been warned!"
The more I watch, the more I WANT to watch; not only can I not say that about television any longer, but I gave up on TV even before it went from analog to totally digital in 2009. I'll say it again, what's the point of having four hundred channels and only garbage to watch? Take me back to the three major networks that competed vigorously for ratings (remember the Neilson's?) Long before the average household knew of or could afford recording equipment, there was so much quality viewing on any of those three stations, you hardly knew what to pick to watch. How sad things have changed for the worse in the decades of my lifetime.
So true, I tend to record programmes I want to watch now, or put these videos through the tv. Three good channels certainly beats the rubbish on nowadays.
My goodness! What you said! I was born in '64 and I, even as a mere tot, remember the quality of television back then. Even soap operas, full of pap as they might have been, had quality to them. Whether or not a show from that era was meant for children, many children could watch a lot of what was on without negative results (commercials included).To me, that represented quality television...
While COVID-19 has given us a lot to worry about, it has also given us a lot to think about, and more time to think about it. I like threads like this that give insightful retrospective, because they show how we have individually and more so collectively progressed in many ways; and, sadly, how we may have regressed in some, especially as a nation. Without throwing politics into this, it seems as though the ease of life has replaced the quality of life on many levels, especially in technology. EVERYONE now has access to anything and everything. I'm glad that RUclips continues to remind many of us about our past so that we can refresh ourselves enough to positively face our present...
The segment with the two Lee Sheppards was so unique and fun; what are the odds of having two individuals with the exact same name, working in the exact same profession? As usual, Bennett touches upon a crucial piece of information... only to end up eliminating the wrong thing, haha! He's always a really good sport about it, though.
Cerf got a "No" for consumption of Nitroglycerin, perhaps because it was not yet widely prescribed to treat angina in 1964, although its medical use was known since 1867.
I just commented on that--didn't see your comment here, until I sorted by newest comments...after I'd made my own. I think that in 1964, it was already quite well known by most people. I was only in high school (graduated that year), and we all knew about it (had learned about it in our high school science classes) in our little town of Valdez, Alaska.
Barbra Streisand was close friends with the recently-departed Lauren Bacall. They became friends during the making of 1996's "The Mirror Has Two Faces", which Streisand herself directed.
Kelloggs: It was not a critical, box office or video flop. There were comments that it was similar to FUNNY GIRL where she played a plain girl who marries a good looking man and becomes self empowered. Bacall however was very good and I remember that when photos of her late husband were shown, Streisand’s father was used.
My late Uncle and I always disagreed about her looks. I thought she was (is) supremely beautiful and he just could not get past the nose (and he, like me is JEWISH! We had to get past lots of noses in our lifetimes! Of course we both appreciated her wondrous talent. By the way...the nose really works for me. Thank goodness she didn't have it fixed. it might have changed her sound as well.
Joe Postove I agree with you, Joe. She was and remains stunning. Her unique features are part of her brand. Many encouraged her toward rhinoplasty, which she smartly ignored. Think of say, Jennifer Grey who had a unique profile, went for surgery and didn't work much after that, in part by choice but also because folks didn't recognize her. After rhinoplasty she no longer had the unique "No one puts Baby in a corner" visage that made her an international name. She was just plain ol' pretty. Angelica Houston, Sophia Coppola, The Divine Miss M and Babs are unique character beauties, memorable. Cheers!
Gina Greenlee Laraine Newman is another one who had a nose job. However, as much as I think her crooked nose worked to make her very sexy, she was unhappy with it and had it done. She still is beautiful. If I had to choose, I would have picked another body part(s) to work on.
I just happened to watch another WML episode from 1959 when Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman were the Mystery Guests and the voice Joanne Woodward used was a slightly accented European accent almost exactly like Barbra's so I can see why Gore Vidal thought it was Joanne since he was a great friend of both Newmans having actually lived with them for a period of time and he likely heard Joanne playfully using that voice in casual company.
Arlene's "good shepard" quip was a lot funnier than anyone realized. Very clever. Also, Dorothy figured out instantly that the whole point of the Lee Shepard duo was that they had the same name and shared the same profession. Pretty darn smart if ya ask me.
Both times Vidal appeared on this program, he got to plug "The Best Man." In 1960, it was a play. In 1964, it was a movie. And a fine movie at that, for those who have not seen it.
I don't think many in the audience recognized her at first. She had made no films and had done just one or two shows on Broadway by then. Funny Girl had opened on March 26, 1964.
She appears on the Garland show in 1963. Before her appearance on the screen, the public was exposed and well acquainted with Streisand through her music albums, which were popular.
@@davidsanderson5918 I suppose that's because she was more of a celebrity. I love the one where cold drinks had clearly been taken but she keeps asking questions anyway, to hilarious effect. Her husband was punching way above his weight.
At the end: "The next time you have your car in for service, why not have seat belts installed and buckle up for safety?' A reminder that cars were not always manufactured with seat belts.
I wonder how the two Shepherds meet.. How did they come to know about each other.. Did WML find them separately and found it interesting that they had the same name?
WTOP was a CBS affiliate and the other station was too; John Daly mentioned that they both did the weather after the show aired. WML was shown on CBS so that’s how the connection was likely made.
This show could be done today but the panelists would be stonewalled because of the wide range of talent and most things aren`t centered around new york.
Funny that Vidal thought Streisand was Joanne Woodward, I just noticed on Wikipedia that he was actually engaged to her briefly before she married Paul Newman in '58.
When Ray Stark started hiring writers to script "My Man," Barbra was a kid. When "My Man" finally went into production, it became one of the most troubled Broadway productions of that period. If the stories are to be believed, Stark and David Merrick thought first of Edie Gorme and Carol Burnett as "Fanny Brice" before they considered Streisand. At least finally they did the right thing. It is interesting to see a genuine young phenom right at the time she burst on the Broadway scene. A star is born.
STARK'S WIFE, FANNY'S DAUGHTER, DIDN'T WANT STREISAND FOR THE ROLL AS SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO UGLY. FANNY BRICE WAS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, SO IT'S ODD. STARK HAD NO PROBLEM WITH HER AND EVEN THE SCORE WAS WRITTEN WITH HER IN MIND. IRONICALLY BARBRA RENEWED INTEREST IN FANNY BRICE, SO HER DAUGHTER WAS WOEFULLY WRONG.
Gore Vidal's unintended mistake at 16:45 - perhaps a very uncanny foreshadowing of the "Fates' Law prevails" moments on the syndicated WML? some years later.
Barbra had just started her run in "Funny Girl" which ran for three years and 1308 performances (I don't know if she did the entire Broadway run...from IBDB it seems she did). Sydney Chaplin (son of Charlie and talented actor in his own right... March 30, 1926 - March 3, 2009) played Nick Arnstein. Lainie Kazan was her standby/understudy. Did Lainie ever make it onstage during the run? I can see her as Fannie Brice easily! Opening Date: Mar 26, 1964
Yes, Lainie Kazan got onstage portraying Fanny Brice. Dorothy Kilgallen reported in her New York Journal-American column that the understudy had made her first appearance. 1965 was the year. You can find the column and read it.
Yes, she did. My parents had tickets for a Sat evening performance to see Funny Girl and went to NY specifically to see Barbra. When they arrived they heard that Streisand had been sick but had performed the matinee. Then they announced that Lainie Kazan would go on for her for the evening performance. In those days, people could turn in their tickets in that situation, and my parents said hundreds of locals did so. My mother always thought Barbra should have skipped out on the matinee. . It was the only performance of the run that she missed. My mother said Ms Kazan was good but my parents had the Broadway cast album and they knew it wasn't the same. About 30 years later, Barbra appeared on Rosie O'Donnell and was asked if she had ever missed a performance. At first, she said no and then she remembered she had missed one, this one.. She then told the story inaccurately -- I am not accusing her of lying, but the way she told the story she was a martyr.
Actually, nitroglycerin is sometimes consumed, as a heart medicine: "Nitroglycerin is a vasodilatory drug used primarily to provide relief from anginal chest pain."
At his trial, Roger Stone did not testify. However, video was introduced in which he purported to quote Gore Vidal: "Never miss an opportunity to engage in sex or appear on television."
So poised and polite for a 22 year old. She is elegant as she leaves the stage. We don't see that anymore. Celebrities actually had class back in those days.
Fun fact: Both Barbra Streisand and Dorothy Kilgallen attended high school at Erasmus Hall High School (obviously not during the same years and Barbra was probably a bit less miserable there)
![What's My Line? - Edie Adams; Buddy Hackett [panel] (Apr 19, 1964)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/McxhCTtqkJ4/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Edie Adams; Buddy Hackett [panel] (Apr 19, 1964)](/img/tr.png)
![What's My Line? - Barbra Streisand; Tony Randall [panel] (Apr 25, 1965) [W/ COMMERCIALS!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5RS0DWRvBxg/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Gina Lollobrigida; Steve Allen [panel] (Jun 14, 1964)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fjI4my6y7KY/mqdefault.jpg)
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
I was fortunate enough to see Barbra Streisand perform in the Broadway show Funny Girl in the summer of 1965! I was 12 yrs old.
Double wow! Very nice, indeed.
Lucky you!
Oh I am sooo envious!
Barbara loves me
Wow! I love the movie. You're very fortunate. She's the best singer ever IMO and a great actrss.
Imagine a world in which an author, a publisher, and a journalist are celebrity panelists on a popular show…
What a thrill to see Barbra on What's My Line!
Growing up in the early 60's, as a child, I actually owned two pairs of white gloves at 5 years old to wear on special occasions as Miss Kilgallen did. I even learned the proper way to drape them over my handbag at an event that required eating where one would not "wear" gloves when one might get food on them, but you still had to "have" them. I'm still in awe of my mother telling me she used to go grocery shopping in a skirt-suit with hat, stockings, gloves, and heels. I'm impressed with myself if I don't wear my sweatpants to Walmart. She was also a professional housekeeper and mother. At that same time period, she would mop, dust and vacuum the house EVERY day. She made every meal from scratch, and still took time to make toys and play with my sister and me every day. She made "homemade" play doh to teach us to make doll accessories, created toy kitchen appliances out of boxes, and made her own bubble liquid to blow monster bubbles. It took me about 20 years to realize what an amazing woman she was. In her teens, she was hired by a newspaper as a fashion illustrator (she was very artistic), but put her heart and soul into making a wonderful household after meeting my father.
THAT'S CUTE.
I hope you will write more about your Mom.
Let me take a bow to your mother! But then she was extremely lucky to have met someone whom she is so willing to pour her heart and soul so fully to!
Please write more about your mum!
You were lucky to have a mother like that.
Gore Vidal's screw up was hilarious. But he recognized Barbra's voice for sure. This show was pure class.
As a librarian, I can say that Mr. Cerf's opening words about libraries are as true today as they were fifty years ago.
maynardsmoreland
Greetings from a fellow librarian! I always appreciate Bennett's annual tributes during National Library Week. :)
One of the wildest girls I knew became a librarian. I think she felt it allowed her to disarm the expectations of a disapproving world. She was a lovely girl who just wanted to have fun. And she left us too soon.
I agree. Bennett Cerf has always supported libraries!
Yes. That's where they hide all that stuff they don't want us to know. In this case they use it to sell a product. Hollywood actors. I'd like to see the word ZIONISM discussed. It's certainly well represented.
@@winomaster Nice words.
There are stars and then there is the great Ms Streisand who redefined the word.
Streisand was, to me, one of a kind, an important talent on film and broadway in the 60s/70s. Those times wouldn’t be the same without her!
BarBra Streisand, so young and beautiful. Such a brilliant talent.
More so than today. Although tremendous antisemitism in New York (Italian and Irish) Saw her Basin Street nightclub in the Fifties or Sixties. Tremendous! Brought the house down as they say.
what the hell are you talking about?.. "Irish and Italian" ppl hate Jewish ppl?.. *that is crazy person talk..
WTF are YOU talking about. I grew up around the West Side of NYC when gang warfare was common and Jewish neighbourhoods were overrun with antisemitism. `West Side Story` (the original) documents. In London ditto today. Golders Green, Colindale, STamford Hill (old Jewish neighbourhoods) not only are in receipt of masssive migration but massive migration of antisemitism. This is the F+ of what I am talking about.
When I saw Streisand Basin Street in the Fifties, the Mc (Irish) came out there and made vicious antisemite remarks before Streisand appeared.
Streisand herself remarks about some of this. She passes it off. Well she should as she has risen aoove it, big time. Possibly she excuses it.
But if Barbara had not ended up as a rich as she is and as successful she`d be living like the rest of Jewry tryingto fend off antisemitism and to get parity medical, employment, houisng, education.
Also a diva...today she would have a massive rider....
At first, I thought it was Agnes Moorehead.
Streisand’s talent was so overwhelmingly obvious that old show business welcomed her with open arms. She had kind of a soft landing into stardom, even though she was new corduroy rubbing against their old silk.
What a wonderful expression, so well put!! Thank you.
Ms Streisand was just as beautiful then as now! Timeless music!
Libtard schlutte....
Beautiful? You better check your eyesight.
@@georgevincent1834 👎🏼
@@georgevincent1834The shade. 😭
What’s My Line was such a simple but classy, urbane, sophisticated production when John Daly and the original panel were on the show. The later syndicated versions not so much.
Barbra just kept excelling in all she did! What an icon 📀🏙
Did she have a nose job or is that thing real?
@@kingforaday8725 from what I read, she was told she shouldn’t alter her nose because it was her signature look. In addition, she was afraid it might affect her voice if she did get a nose job.
Thank you for letting me go back to a time that holds such fond memories. I really appreciate you for all your work putting What's my line on YT.
This is soooo 😎!! I love how everyone is dressed formally, they shake hands, are so complementary to each other, and I loved their politeness!! Wow!! What was life like back then??
Life was better. People were smarter
@@dinahbrown902 Better if you were white.
Even more racist, mass murderers, arsonist of many black homes, businesses, and communities, throw in the N word here and there.
@@lastnamefirst4035 Not at all
@@LPAFilm I am😊
she was so humble and appreciate as she was reflecting on watching as a little girl
I'm always amazed at how quickly the panel is able to come up with the occupation of the guests.
That is because this show is rigged.
@@LANCSKID In a subtle way, Oui !
Dorothy has an incredible intellectual talent of homing in on facts. Watch many of these programs. She cannot be matched by anyone. Too bad she didn't realize she was been setting up at her end.
Gil Fates wrote about Streisand's comment of watching WML as a child before bedtime as her last weekend activity before returning Monday to school. She further told Fates and his crew that her parents allowed her to watch WML at 10:30 pm providing she had finished all her homework for school the next day. "It was sobering for those of us who were clinging to the myth of youth."
Barbra was only 22 years young in this episode. Looks so mature. Very talented. ****2024 Update. Overdue thanks to everyone for all the likes. You're awesome.**** 😊
She is from before my time, but i would have had the hots for her. Beautiful!
“Years young” 🤦♀️
So she was annoying and full of herself from right out the gate.
@@you2449 This makes me laugh because it is so spot-on
wow
NITRO!!!!! BOOOOM!!!!! My whole family watched What's my Line? and we had a ball watching it. A lot of the panel is no longer with us, but I got to meet mr. Cerf when I was eight years old. He was a very nice man, and signed an autograph for me. Thanks for posting this....brings back a lot of memories....I remember my Mother's bouffant hair do! :)
.
I find these WML programs to be totally addictive. Witty, sophisticated, smart - cosmopolitan in a way we no longer see. I do wish they would say what it was that clicked in the correct answer for them.
Barbra is adorable here…and still is at 80!!!
I used to love watching this show as a kid and wondered who all these cosmopolitan NEW Yorkers were on the panel. What glamorous lives they led.
I rehearsed for a film at a studio in Manhattan; the lady who owned it said Barbra Streisand used to practice singing and always rented the cheapest room for like $8.00 an hour.
Thanks Bennett. From an appreciative librarian. :)
The commercial at the end “next time your car is in for service, why not have seat belts installed for safety”. Oh wow. We’ve come a long way
Barbara Streisand is the epitome of talent and a beautiful soul it was so great to see her on this show
Her song 'Woman In Love' has been translated and performed in many languages and I first knew her in early 80's through one of those translated cover songs and loved that song immensely. After 20 years or so, I saw her movie The Way We Were and I was deeply amazed at her. She's beautiful in every way.
talent, yes.. beautiful soul??? UHmmmmmm. No.
@@Teri_Berk Incredibly talented? Yes. Beautiful soul? HAHAHAHAHAHA. She's the opposite.
Definitely
Barbra Streisand
I love Arlene's hair today. It looks soft and feminine. I love the little turnup.
Barbra Streisand. Like it or not, she is the highest-paid, most successful female musician and singer in the history of music. She is not going away anytime soon.
***** The one and only. Saw her live at MSQ in NYC in 1994 during the first comeback tour. I traveled three hours by mass transit from CT. It was like church, no lie. My whole section was weeping we were so overcome with joy. When she opened with Never Said Goodbye and landed on that killer high note - I though I would pass out. I was in my 30s. Forget the Beatles. Elvis who? Gimme Babs any day of the week.
Nyann Smith Touche.
"A Little Help From My Friends" SHE SANG THIS ON HER "WHAT ABOUT TODAY"ALBUM. LISTEN HERE: ruclips.net/video/LFld2v5MU8Q/видео.html
Way too liberal for my tastes, like most Hollywood types. I have so much respect for Reba McEntyre - she recently declared spouting off politics was not her job! I already thought she was miles ahead of most, but then again there’s just something so much more to Southern and midwestern personalities in general. But I did love Arlene Francis!
What a bag of steaming crap!
She is way down the line financially.
She is worth less than half of Madonna.
Do a little research before opening your mouth.
I like how in both of her MG appearances, she signed her name in an unusual way. The next time she came on this show, she signed as "My Name Is Barbra", in honor of her first television special.
Uncouples?
Enjoyed this episode. You can tell how in awe Barbara was to be there after watching WML on TV since she was young. I was a little underwhelmed with Bennett's awful jokes tonight but Arlene was funny trying to dance around the questions with John.
cassiemoira what was so bad about his jokes? I missed them
I think it was in reference to Bennett's awful pun while both Lee Shepherds (weather reporters) were contestants...
Check out time slot 7:19 to 7:43. The audience groans, the contestants shake their heads, Arlene sings a little tune to cover it up, and John Daly says, "New Mexico and Utah, you've been warned!"
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Bennett's horrible puns in general.
Oh lawd this is like a fashion show! Arlene and Barbra are rockin' those frocks!
I saw the film where Barbara earned her ACTING credentials. It was her first full frontal facial shot. She was the first Amy Shumer.
Within a decade after this show, Barbra became better known for pictures rather than stage.
Streisand considers herself an actor who sings, not a singer who acts.
It always amazes me that they only had 2 chairs. If there were 2 guests, they had to share a chair.
The more I watch, the more I WANT to watch; not only can I not say that about television any longer, but I gave up on TV even before it went from analog to totally digital in 2009. I'll say it again, what's the point of having four hundred channels and only garbage to watch? Take me back to the three major networks that competed vigorously for ratings (remember the Neilson's?) Long before the average household knew of or could afford recording equipment, there was so much quality viewing on any of those three stations, you hardly knew what to pick to watch. How sad things have changed for the worse in the decades of my lifetime.
So true, I tend to record programmes I want to watch now, or put these videos through the tv. Three good channels certainly beats the rubbish on nowadays.
I agree. Very good points. Odd how something can be allowed to get worse in the context of a highly advanced civilization.
My goodness! What you said! I was born in '64 and I, even as a mere tot, remember the quality of television back then. Even soap operas, full of pap as they might have been, had quality to them. Whether or not a show from that era was meant for children, many children could watch a lot of what was on without negative results (commercials included).To me, that represented quality television...
@David Pinegar No. But now we do have Covid 19 to worry about.
While COVID-19 has given us a lot to worry about, it has also given us a lot to think about, and more time to think about it. I like threads like this that give insightful retrospective, because they show how we have individually and more so collectively progressed in many ways; and, sadly, how we may have regressed in some, especially as a nation. Without throwing politics into this, it seems as though the ease of life has replaced the quality of life on many levels, especially in technology. EVERYONE now has access to anything and everything. I'm glad that RUclips continues to remind many of us about our past so that we can refresh ourselves enough to positively face our present...
The segment with the two Lee Sheppards was so unique and fun; what are the odds of having two individuals with the exact same name, working in the exact same profession?
As usual, Bennett touches upon a crucial piece of information... only to end up eliminating the wrong thing, haha! He's always a really good sport about it, though.
The spelling of their last names is different, per their sign-in.
Her sister was in my biology class, Rosalind Kind. We were so excited!!!
Cerf got a "No" for consumption of Nitroglycerin, perhaps because it was not yet widely prescribed to treat angina in 1964, although its medical use was known since 1867.
I just commented on that--didn't see your comment here, until I sorted by newest comments...after I'd made my own. I think that in 1964, it was already quite well known by most people. I was only in high school (graduated that year), and we all knew about it (had learned about it in our high school science classes) in our little town of Valdez, Alaska.
Wow, Gore Vidal was young in this episode. I barely recognized him (I don't read the names of panelists and guests until I'm watching the video).
Dorothy good for you saying there are few things women didn't do even back then !
As a fan So good 2 C Barbra Streisand, luv the hair style. So tragic Dorothy was Murdered.
Barbra Streisand was close friends with the recently-departed Lauren Bacall. They became friends during the making of 1996's "The Mirror Has Two Faces", which Streisand herself directed.
That movie was a box-office flop and a home-video flop - pre-Netflix.
I find that interesting. Would not have known that! Thanks for sharing! Barbra does a great French accent!
I love that movie! So underrated!
Kelloggs: It was not a critical, box office or video flop. There were comments that it was similar to FUNNY GIRL where she played a plain girl who marries a good looking man and becomes self empowered. Bacall however was very good and I remember that when photos of her late husband were shown, Streisand’s father was used.
I liked that movie a lot
My late Uncle and I always disagreed about her looks. I thought she was (is) supremely beautiful and he just could not get past the nose (and he, like me is JEWISH! We had to get past lots of noses in our lifetimes! Of course we both appreciated her wondrous talent. By the way...the nose really works for me. Thank goodness she didn't have it fixed. it might have changed her sound as well.
Joe Postove I agree with you, Joe. She was and remains stunning. Her unique features are part of her brand. Many encouraged her toward rhinoplasty, which she smartly ignored. Think of say, Jennifer Grey who had a unique profile, went for surgery and didn't work much after that, in part by choice but also because folks didn't recognize her. After rhinoplasty she no longer had the unique "No one puts Baby in a corner" visage that made her an international name. She was just plain ol' pretty. Angelica Houston, Sophia Coppola, The Divine Miss M and Babs are unique character beauties, memorable. Cheers!
Gina Greenlee Laraine Newman is another one who had a nose job. However, as much as I think her crooked nose worked to make her very sexy, she was unhappy with it and had it done. She still is beautiful. If I had to choose, I would have picked another body part(s) to work on.
Oh didn't know about Laraine Newman. I'll have to Google that. Interesting. Thanks for the update and the conversation. Cheers!
+Gina Greenlee i just google her & saw 100 pics at all diff ages & sorry but her looks range from 3-6(at best)
Gina Greenlee Agree 100%. But then again they have personal lives to, and I guess they thought the nose would not fit in.
I just happened to watch another WML episode from 1959 when Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman were the Mystery Guests and the voice Joanne Woodward used was a slightly accented European accent almost exactly like Barbra's so I can see why Gore Vidal thought it was Joanne since he was a great friend of both Newmans having actually lived with them for a period of time and he likely heard Joanne playfully using that voice in casual company.
Awesome older clip of Streisand!
Arlene's "good shepard" quip was a lot funnier than anyone realized. Very clever. Also, Dorothy figured out instantly that the whole point of the Lee Shepard duo was that they had the same name and shared the same profession. Pretty darn smart if ya ask me.
Both times Vidal appeared on this program, he got to plug "The Best Man." In 1960, it was a play. In 1964, it was a movie. And a fine movie at that, for those who have not seen it.
Gore was a fine writer, not such a great person, though.
@@MrJoeybabe25 why because of his politics?
@@joemartines3545 No it was probably because he was known for getting into feuds with people. Sometimes they could be a very disagreeable person.
That eyeliner is wickedly awsome😁
She was so spoiled.
@@connievino4226 "Spoiled"??? Who or what spoiled her?
How I would have loved to see her perform in nightclubs and in her breakthrough Broadway shows.
When the entertainment industry resided in New York and weren't afraid to be on a game show.
Amazed at the jobs some people back then and how they were able to make a living! How do you support yourself grinding pepper?
I don't think many in the audience recognized her at first. She had made no films and had done just one or two shows on Broadway by then. Funny Girl had opened on March 26, 1964.
She appeared on the Judy Garland show either in 1963 or 1964
She appears on the Garland show in 1963. Before her appearance on the screen, the public was exposed and well acquainted with Streisand through her music albums, which were popular.
Arlene Francis could ask questions for hours and never miss a beat before asking the next.
Fin O'Suilleabhain She was paid double what Kilgallen got during the 1950s programmes according to Wikipedia. She does INDEED make it look easy.
@@davidsanderson5918 I suppose that's because she was more of a celebrity. I love the one where cold drinks had clearly been taken but she keeps asking questions anyway, to hilarious effect. Her husband was punching way above his weight.
Following the incomparable Barbra Streisand a man who "Grinds and Packs Pepper" - that's show biz folks!
At the end: "The next time you have your car in for service, why not have seat belts installed and buckle up for safety?' A reminder that cars were not always manufactured with seat belts.
They're never going to get what this guest makes.
Well, I had to amend that comment. 🤣💣🔥
I wonder how the two Shepherds meet.. How did they come to know about each other.. Did WML find them separately and found it interesting that they had the same name?
WTOP was a CBS affiliate and the other station was too; John Daly mentioned that they both did the weather after the show aired. WML was shown on CBS so that’s how the connection was likely made.
This show could be done today but the panelists would be stonewalled because of the wide range of talent and most things aren`t centered around new york.
Funny that Vidal thought Streisand was Joanne Woodward, I just noticed on Wikipedia that he was actually engaged to her briefly before she married Paul Newman in '58.
Why is it, no one in production thought to have a big enough seat for two people?
I've often wondered that! ;-) I think the space was pretty confining...not like most of our modern TV studio setups.
I am hooked on these this old tv show
A brilliant group of panelist tonight?!
When Ray Stark started hiring writers to script "My Man," Barbra was a kid. When "My Man" finally went into production, it became one of the most troubled Broadway productions of that period. If the stories are to be believed, Stark and David Merrick thought first of Edie Gorme and Carol Burnett as "Fanny Brice" before they considered Streisand. At least finally they did the right thing. It is interesting to see a genuine young phenom right at the time she burst on the Broadway scene. A star is born.
soulierinvestments Where may I buy your book? This cannot be casual knowledge can it? You've got the touch of the scholar.
STARK'S WIFE, FANNY'S DAUGHTER, DIDN'T WANT STREISAND FOR THE ROLL AS SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO UGLY. FANNY BRICE WAS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, SO IT'S ODD. STARK HAD NO PROBLEM WITH HER AND EVEN THE SCORE WAS WRITTEN WITH HER IN MIND.
IRONICALLY BARBRA RENEWED INTEREST IN FANNY BRICE, SO HER DAUGHTER WAS WOEFULLY WRONG.
I'm think you mean "Funny Girl", not "My Man" - right?
"MY MAN" WAS THE WORKING TITLE OF ISABEL LENNERT'S FIRST SUBMISSION.
@@MICHGO1 Barbra does look a lot like Fanny Brice.
The Way We Were! Barbara Streisand and Robert Redford!
Gore Vidal's unintended mistake at 16:45 - perhaps a very uncanny foreshadowing of the "Fates' Law prevails" moments on the syndicated WML? some years later.
Barbra had just started her run in "Funny Girl" which ran for three years and 1308 performances (I don't know if she did the entire Broadway run...from IBDB it seems she did). Sydney Chaplin (son of Charlie and talented actor in his own right... March 30, 1926 - March 3, 2009) played Nick Arnstein. Lainie Kazan was her standby/understudy. Did Lainie ever make it onstage during the run? I can see her as Fannie Brice easily!
Opening Date:
Mar 26, 1964
Closing Date:
Jul 01, 1967
Yes, Lainie Kazan got onstage portraying Fanny Brice. Dorothy Kilgallen reported in her New York Journal-American column that the understudy had made her first appearance. 1965 was the year. You can find the column and read it.
Yes, she did. My parents had tickets for a Sat evening performance to see Funny Girl and went to NY specifically to see Barbra. When they arrived they heard that Streisand had been sick but had performed the matinee. Then they announced that Lainie Kazan would go on for her for the evening performance. In those days, people could turn in their tickets in that situation, and my parents said hundreds of locals did so. My mother always thought Barbra should have skipped out on the matinee. . It was the only performance of the run that she missed. My mother said Ms Kazan was good but my parents had the Broadway cast album and they knew it wasn't the same. About 30 years later, Barbra appeared on Rosie O'Donnell and was asked if she had ever missed a performance. At first, she said no and then she remembered she had missed one, this one.. She then told the story inaccurately -- I am not accusing her of lying, but the way she told the story she was a martyr.
Wasn't Gore Vidal, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis's step brother??
I’m amazed how quickly these panel, especially Bennet guess correctly.
Guessing doesn’t enter into it. The show is obviously rigged.
Happy 80th Birthday, Barbra!
"Don't argue with me!" LOL that was very cute.
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!
Does anyone see a little Raymond Bailey who played Mr. Drysdale, in the look of the last contestant?
Joe Postove agreed
The second panelist is from Olean, NY. 20 miles from where I live.
Actually, nitroglycerin is sometimes consumed, as a heart medicine: "Nitroglycerin is a vasodilatory drug used primarily to provide relief from anginal chest pain."
Always love the TV weather reporters. What's this about an even dozen?
Already in 1964 someone said to Barbra "don't argue with me". 🙂
He actually said basically “Brooklyn in da house” in 1964!
Steisand was born a star.
All these years later, and Babs looks just as good! She's gorgeous. Amazing woman. I can't believe how many years have passed.
WTOP was WJSV when John worked there and they made the famous 19 hour all day recording that is circulating around the web.
I'm reading her memoir. It was published by Penguin, a division of Random House. Bennett Cerf founded Random House.
Barbra was on this show 53 years ago.
Pepper is used down here in the South for breakfast, like in gravy.
You can still buy Pride of India pepper today alas I can't guaranteed Mr. Schirer works there anymore tho
My favorite singer of all time!
Who? Gore Vidal?
I love Barbra’s Cleopatra eyes.
I had forgotten she was married to Elliott Gould back then.
At his trial, Roger Stone did not testify. However, video was introduced in which he purported to quote Gore Vidal: "Never miss an opportunity to engage in sex or appear on television."
So poised and polite for a 22 year old. She is elegant as she leaves the stage. We don't see that anymore. Celebrities actually had class back in those days.
During this time Dorothy Kilgallen was cheating on her husband. She was also drinking a lot of alcohol and taking large amounts of barbiturates.
Barbara Streisand is so sweet.
@Just My Opinion I had a Girlfriend that resembled her somewhat who was from Europe.
@@garfieldharrison510You are lucky!
Hot tonight Bennett. He really got all three of the contestants -- even though in the first one he got them in negative reverse.
Rigged as usual.
Barbara should've given just yes/no answers in a male accent, to disguise her voice.
People were so well dressed and so very POLITE to one another....what a shame that's GONE...
Not in my circle of elite associates.
I can’t believe Gore Vidal was a panelist?!
I like when Bennet guesses right
You mean when he blurts out what he has already been told? Rigged.
This show would be better if they didn't give the answer away, but let the audience play along trying to guess.
The applause was a lot less than I expected because I just realize she only has her deput top ten hit only to her name in early 1964 ("People")
Fun fact: Both Barbra Streisand and Dorothy Kilgallen attended high school at Erasmus Hall High School (obviously not during the same years and Barbra was probably a bit less miserable there)
Also Bobby Fischer and Neil Diamond all in the same years.
She was in the school choir with Diamond.
Notice how people back then knew how to dress?? The women didnt look like street walkers and the men also looked classy.
Opps, I believe what is called a game show blooper happened in this episode