I'm half mauritian, my dad maintained the créole accent but some of his mates ended up with quite strong northern accents which seemed wierd at the time
Used to work in a factory that was full of lads from Ashington way, and one of them, with no hint of irony whatsoever, greeted a French student working there every day with " bon jewer bonny lad" hahaha, I still say it to people today 20 years on 😂
My entire family are from Sunderland and County Durham the older generation all speak pitmatic, this video both brings me comfort and makes me sad since a lot of my relatives who sound like this are no longer with us.
We in the States have significant dialectical difference. I live in the borderlands between the Midwest and South. Several years ago, I had co-workers from Michigan and Mississippi. The guy from Michigan had a lot of trouble understanding the Mississippian lol.
I am a Chinese student, I will go to university in Durham next year, I want to learn English with pitmatic accent, because it represents the local culture.😊
I find it fascinating how much this would of changed with current day, we’d prob say “Blummin, suthaners divint na hew te talk raiyt, thu folks in durham an newcastle must keep tha propa language”
Hadaway and shite. It's anywhere in the North East where there was pits, which includes the pit villages in Northumberland. Get yasel up to Ashington or Bedlington, talk to some old miners, and tell them they don't speak Pitmatic and see what happens!
@@davidharrison6615 ..Sorry Marra,but ya taakin' absoloot nonsense..it's obvious ya not from a pitman's family or a pit community..where the pit wives migh be yaakin owa the garden fence,and just realise thi time.."Eee yi bugga,it's tenn 'o clock in aam not redd aroond yit...tha'll be hell on if he cums in,an aam mekkin a noise,he's in forst.."....she's not "Redd aroond".."Tidied up",referring ti the Stonemen not having "Ridd"..[Cleared] their Caunch..[heap of shot-down stone strata in an underground roadway]. "He's in forst"..referring to her Husband,being in "Fore-shift",usually a midnight start,but at Bedlington A pit,in the old days,Foreshift started at 1-40 am..!!..who the hell thowt of a stupid time like that...the pit was literally stopped of production between the Night-shift coming out of the pit..and the Foreshift getting inbye!...anywheh,she says "Forst "..which is just a slang way of saying "Foreshift"..it was the "Forst" shift of the day. ..."UGHH"....aam in Forst this week.."!.. Aye,if ye waant ti knaa owt aboot Pitmatic,taak ti an aad Pitman..he'll fettle ye!...and this in October 2019..a just fund this pitcha.....!
@@whentheleveebreaks3962 Ya spot-on Marra!...aa started Choppingtin High Pit in 1959,stryght from me skyeull desk ,at 15 ya'rraad ,Bedlington Aad pit,Bates pit,Ashington pit,trained doon Seaton Burn pit,visited Lynemouth and Whitewood Drifts,played as a wee laddie aroond the aad Barrington pit,and ivry other pit in and aroond the Bedlington boondary,which was the Doctor pit,Netherton pit,which a was doon for three weeks training,[a forgot aboot that!],the Bomarsund pit..["Thi Booma" pit],the West Sleekborn pit [the "Winning" pit],Cambois pit,[which featured in "Get Carter" ..the Michael Caine cult movie..],Choppington A pit .the "Low" pit], Seaton Delaval pit...aye,when ya a pitman's Son,graan' up in a pit village,ye knaa aboot pitwark afore ye hae ya shitty-hippin's off...[in PItmatic!],and ya "just a skitterin' yung ched wi a snotty beak and a shitty arse" !!..[a very young laddie who is still growing up.."!]
Interesting, but not a particularly good item. The "author" who was interviewed is (as usual) a White Settler as they refer to southerners in most parts of Scotland north of the mythical Highland Line. The two gentlemen are obviously Ashingtonians. The difference in dialect in Northumberland is very pronounced within a few miles (frequently less than 3) - for instance, radiating from Ashington, take Pegswood, Morpeth, Mitford; or Guide Post, Bedlington and south; or Lynemouth, Widdrington, Red Row. West of the A1 the dialect becomes more agricuturally oriented, and not only are some words different, but the pronunciation of the same word too. Anyone reading this who is a Northumbrian will know the different way people say Bull in Ashington, Wooler and close to Newcastle. Nobody away from the SE of the County or Newcastle area says "neet" for night. I do not claim to be an expert on the naming of a dialect for a particular area, but the reference to Geordies is always a matter of contention for those who are not, but classified as such by those from elsewhere. To me a Geordie is someone from the Newcastle area. Anyone from south of the Tyne is at best a Makem or even worse "from doon sooth". The same is normally applied to anyone from anywhere south of the Wall, even if still in Northumberland. Pitmatic to me has always been the dialect used by pitmen from the few miles around about Ashington - not belying the importance of the other villages, just that it is convenient to use somewhere as the centre. If others choose to claim they also speak Pitmatic I have no objection. I was born in Ashington, as was my father who worked in the pits as a drawer (it says so on my birth certificate). His job was to knock (draw) out the timbers supporting the roof after the coal had been removed so that there could be no build up of gas. Dangerous work but it paid well. He bought a smallholding at Morpeth when I was a year old (1945) so I learned not only his dialect, but a little Morpethian (a totally diferent dialect and set of words) and later more agricultural Northumbrian when I fulfilled my desire to be a farmer, moving west, and learned still more new words and pronunciations. My accent, a mixture of Pitmatic and Northumbrian, no Morpethian really, has never changed despite me not living in Northumberland since 1979 and wandering the world as a farmer in Australia, the Black Isle and Portugal before retiring to Orkney in 2021 - where I am pleased to find the local accent not too far removed from what I speak. I would not be surprised to learn that many countries have similar changes of accents within a short distance. I know this is true for Portugal, but since distances are greater in Australia (my next door neighbour living four and a half miles away) it will not be the same in all countries.
mum grew up in red row, but moved to Morpeth when grandad had an accident in chevington drift.(mid 50s) Lived in morpeth for 20yrs but now in sunny ashington )
@@malcomflibbleghast8140 If that is your true name, I am very surprised I never came across the name Fibbleghast. I had Register of Electors involvement for many years, and responsibilty for a few at the time you and/or your mother lived in Morpeth. I should have remembered the name.
@@malcomflibbleghast8140 I do. Nothing worth hacking or a devious past - not suggesting you have!! I knew a fanatical Sunderland supporter, not a Mackem though, born in Ashington. Many years ago the young players often had to spend their Saturday nights in his house (a two-house smallholding shared with my parents so they would be there too) and when he died his ashes were scattered in the centre circle at Roker Park. I have often thought I would like to go back and identify which house now includes that centre circle, and pay my respects.
near amble in the 70s the women spoke a mix of pitmatic and northumbrian......they rolled their RRRRs, Aunty alice was very hard to understand, when she was talkin to her marras/rellys
I grew up in Washington and all my elder family members spoke like that. I loved it. You don't hear it in washington now as "sin"derland moved its trouble makers in to get city status and ruined the place.
Eward Aveyard....Marra,nae disrespect,but a think ye might be bit of a skittering yung ched,if ye think that THAT waas thi aanly drama wi Pitmatic in it,Hae ye nivvor seen the film "Billy Elliot"?...it was TOTALLY PITMATIC THROUGH AND THROUGH!..filmed aal aroond the Northumberland and Durham Pits...wi a bit of artistic licence thraan in...like it was supposed ti be aboot one pit,in Durham ,when the footage showed the Coal Blending Plant at Lynemouth/Ellington Complex..!!!...they say ignorance is bliss! What aboot "Close the Coalhouse Door"?...and ALSO...what aboot "The Stars Look Down"?...in the 1960's on Tyne-Tees Television...in BLACK AND WHITE...405 lines ...steam powered telly's!!...my old school-mate Bobby Cross was the Shotfirer who fired one shot and closed the pit with a huge eplosion..and water inrush....his Father was my Colliery Overman at the time,down Choppington B Pit..[the High Pit]. Noo!,bonny lad,can a ask ye wat YE think,is Pitmatic..??..[cos a get the feeling ye think the Geordie dialect is,and Pitmatic has nowt ti dae wi local dialects at aal...wherever they might be!]...see if ye can decipher me bit quick-fire natter at thi top..!
Wey haway man,the blerk wee's written the book cannit even taak the propa twang like us aal. A was born in Ashington,brought up in Guidepost and have lived in Scotland for 18 years and av nivva lost me pit yakka twang yit. It's owa strang,hew!
@@ryanbell4952 That is correct,Marra,as lang as ya not referrin' ti just local dialects,cos it's got nowt ti dae wi that,or hoo fowk taak..it's the use of pit torminology creeping inti ivryday taakin'...."..that bugga tells mair lees than a colliery polis"..."..ughh...aam reet off thi crucks thi day..."..."..ya stannin' theor like a brrrokkkin' paor 'ri limmas...man...put yasel away man...it'll be lowse afore wi get redd arrroond.."he was aal drresssed up for thi dinner dance,ye knaa wat a mean...two flat sheets 'n a brrrikkin-off plank..."..[denoting a white bib and bow tie as worn by so-caaled "upper-class" cheds..!]...and only,and a mean ONLY..[underlined!!]...a true aad pitman wud knaa wat THAT one was....nen o ya yung'uns who aanly knaa mechanisation...AAM taaking aad-fashioned pitwark!! ,in aal leave it it that! Cheers Marra,a hope wi both get through ti them that THINK thi knaa....wen thi acshilly knaa nowt aboot Pitmatic!
load ov crap geordie is the national language from tyneside to berwick, its all inherited from the norseman, the saying goes, ow lorde protect us from the wrathe ov the norseman, man
I taught a Mauritian colleauge to greet me with "Y'aalreet hinny" in response to my Bonjour ca va hilarious in his strong French accent 😂😂
I'm half mauritian, my dad maintained the créole accent but some of his mates ended up with quite strong northern accents which seemed wierd at the time
Used to work in a factory that was full of lads from Ashington way, and one of them, with no hint of irony whatsoever, greeted a French student working there every day with " bon jewer bonny lad" hahaha, I still say it to people today 20 years on 😂
Iwas born in Easington colliery in County Durham and all the older generation still speak pitmatic
Superb!
My entire family are from Sunderland and County Durham the older generation all speak pitmatic, this video both brings me comfort and makes me sad since a lot of my relatives who sound like this are no longer with us.
North, south, east or Wembley?
@@stephen7571 Easty lol
@@johnord684 I delivered papers there in the 70s, the C streets.
I love all the southerners acting as though this was some sort of foreign language.
i'm from yorkshire and i can barely understand it either.
I’m from the area and even I don’t understand half of what they said! My grandfather was a miner so I picked up some of the words.
They think bloody Lancaster is a foreign language. This, they probably think it's space aliens.
We in the States have significant dialectical difference. I live in the borderlands between the Midwest and South. Several years ago, I had co-workers from Michigan and Mississippi. The guy from Michigan had a lot of trouble understanding the Mississippian lol.
This is brilliant, keep it gannin`.
I met Dr Griffiths in primary school when he gave us all a talk!
I am a Chinese student, I will go to university in Durham next year, I want to learn English with pitmatic accent, because it represents the local culture.😊
Bleedin' Southerners dunt know how tae tolk reet. T'folks in Durham an Newcastle mun keep thy proper language.
iye divvent let it dee tis a beautiful way a tarkin
U wot m8
wellaye alweys County Durham tha one
I find it fascinating how much this would of changed with current day, we’d prob say “Blummin, suthaners divint na hew te talk raiyt, thu folks in durham an newcastle must keep tha propa language”
mis-represented... Pitmatic is primarily from the Durham pit villages... Newcastle..geordies. Sunderland.. mackems. Durham.. pit yakkas
very true . nothing to do with northumberland
Hadaway and shite. It's anywhere in the North East where there was pits, which includes the pit villages in Northumberland. Get yasel up to Ashington or Bedlington, talk to some old miners, and tell them they don't speak Pitmatic and see what happens!
@@davidharrison6615 ..Sorry Marra,but ya taakin' absoloot nonsense..it's obvious ya not from a pitman's family or a pit community..where the pit wives migh be yaakin owa the garden fence,and just realise thi time.."Eee yi bugga,it's tenn 'o clock in aam not redd aroond yit...tha'll be hell on if he cums in,an aam mekkin a noise,he's in forst.."....she's not "Redd aroond".."Tidied up",referring ti the Stonemen not having "Ridd"..[Cleared] their Caunch..[heap of shot-down stone strata in an underground roadway].
"He's in forst"..referring to her Husband,being in "Fore-shift",usually a midnight start,but at Bedlington A pit,in the old days,Foreshift started at 1-40 am..!!..who the hell thowt of a stupid time like that...the pit was literally stopped of production between the Night-shift coming out of the pit..and the Foreshift getting inbye!...anywheh,she says "Forst "..which is just a slang way of saying "Foreshift"..it was the "Forst" shift of the day.
..."UGHH"....aam in Forst this week.."!..
Aye,if ye waant ti knaa owt aboot Pitmatic,taak ti an aad Pitman..he'll fettle ye!...and this in October 2019..a just fund this pitcha.....!
@@whentheleveebreaks3962 Ya spot-on Marra!...aa started Choppingtin High Pit in 1959,stryght from me skyeull desk ,at 15 ya'rraad ,Bedlington Aad pit,Bates pit,Ashington pit,trained doon Seaton Burn pit,visited Lynemouth and Whitewood Drifts,played as a wee laddie aroond the aad Barrington pit,and ivry other pit in and aroond the Bedlington boondary,which was the Doctor pit,Netherton pit,which a was doon for three weeks training,[a forgot aboot that!],the Bomarsund pit..["Thi Booma" pit],the West Sleekborn pit [the "Winning" pit],Cambois pit,[which featured in "Get Carter" ..the Michael Caine cult movie..],Choppington A pit .the "Low" pit],
Seaton Delaval pit...aye,when ya a pitman's Son,graan' up in a pit village,ye knaa aboot pitwark afore ye hae ya shitty-hippin's off...[in PItmatic!],and ya "just a skitterin' yung ched wi a snotty beak and a shitty arse" !!..[a very young laddie who is still growing up.."!]
@@whentheleveebreaks3962 bloke next to me dads old house in seaton delaval has a Pitmatic/Northumbrian burr accent. Very nice on the ears
Interesting, but not a particularly good item. The "author" who was interviewed is (as usual) a White Settler as they refer to southerners in most parts of Scotland north of the mythical Highland Line. The two gentlemen are obviously Ashingtonians. The difference in dialect in Northumberland is very pronounced within a few miles (frequently less than 3) - for instance, radiating from Ashington, take Pegswood, Morpeth, Mitford; or Guide Post, Bedlington and south; or Lynemouth, Widdrington, Red Row. West of the A1 the dialect becomes more agricuturally oriented, and not only are some words different, but the pronunciation of the same word too. Anyone reading this who is a Northumbrian will know the different way people say Bull in Ashington, Wooler and close to Newcastle. Nobody away from the SE of the County or Newcastle area says "neet" for night.
I do not claim to be an expert on the naming of a dialect for a particular area, but the reference to Geordies is always a matter of contention for those who are not, but classified as such by those from elsewhere. To me a Geordie is someone from the Newcastle area. Anyone from south of the Tyne is at best a Makem or even worse "from doon sooth". The same is normally applied to anyone from anywhere south of the Wall, even if still in Northumberland. Pitmatic to me has always been the dialect used by pitmen from the few miles around about Ashington - not belying the importance of the other villages, just that it is convenient to use somewhere as the centre. If others choose to claim they also speak Pitmatic I have no objection.
I was born in Ashington, as was my father who worked in the pits as a drawer (it says so on my birth certificate). His job was to knock (draw) out the timbers supporting the roof after the coal had been removed so that there could be no build up of gas. Dangerous work but it paid well. He bought a smallholding at Morpeth when I was a year old (1945) so I learned not only his dialect, but a little Morpethian (a totally diferent dialect and set of words) and later more agricultural Northumbrian when I fulfilled my desire to be a farmer, moving west, and learned still more new words and pronunciations. My accent, a mixture of Pitmatic and Northumbrian, no Morpethian really, has never changed despite me not living in Northumberland since 1979 and wandering the world as a farmer in Australia, the Black Isle and Portugal before retiring to Orkney in 2021 - where I am pleased to find the local accent not too far removed from what I speak.
I would not be surprised to learn that many countries have similar changes of accents within a short distance. I know this is true for Portugal, but since distances are greater in Australia (my next door neighbour living four and a half miles away) it will not be the same in all countries.
mum grew up in red row, but moved to Morpeth when grandad had an accident in chevington drift.(mid 50s) Lived in morpeth for 20yrs but now in sunny ashington )
@@malcomflibbleghast8140 If that is your true name, I am very surprised I never came across the name Fibbleghast. I had Register of Electors involvement for many years, and responsibilty for a few at the time you and/or your mother lived in Morpeth. I should have remembered the name.
@@alanmcdonald4423 no i dont use a real name on the net..its full of mackems and weirdoes...
@@malcomflibbleghast8140 I do. Nothing worth hacking or a devious past - not suggesting you have!!
I knew a fanatical Sunderland supporter, not a Mackem though, born in Ashington. Many years ago the young players often had to spend their Saturday nights in his house (a two-house smallholding shared with my parents so they would be there too) and when he died his ashes were scattered in the centre circle at Roker Park. I have often thought I would like to go back and identify which house now includes that centre circle, and pay my respects.
@@alanmcdonald4423 norman craig?
near amble in the 70s the women spoke a mix of pitmatic and northumbrian......they rolled their RRRRs, Aunty alice was very hard to understand, when she was talkin to her marras/rellys
No wonder I could barely understand Jack Charlton
I get a gliff every payday.
I grew up in Washington and all my elder family members spoke like that. I loved it.
You don't hear it in washington now as "sin"derland moved its trouble makers in to get city status and ruined the place.
Came from all surrounding area, that was the point of new towns. But aye you got the poo r mainly. It was nice for a bit when it was new.
I think that the only drama that has ever used Pitmatic was the second play of Ken Loach's "Days of Hope".
Eward Aveyard....Marra,nae disrespect,but a think ye might be bit of a skittering yung ched,if ye think that THAT waas thi aanly drama wi Pitmatic in it,Hae ye nivvor seen the film "Billy Elliot"?...it was TOTALLY PITMATIC THROUGH AND THROUGH!..filmed aal aroond the Northumberland and Durham Pits...wi a bit of artistic licence thraan in...like it was supposed ti be aboot one pit,in Durham ,when the footage showed the Coal Blending Plant at Lynemouth/Ellington Complex..!!!...they say ignorance is bliss!
What aboot "Close the Coalhouse Door"?...and ALSO...what aboot "The Stars Look Down"?...in the 1960's on Tyne-Tees Television...in BLACK AND WHITE...405 lines ...steam powered telly's!!...my old school-mate Bobby Cross was the Shotfirer who fired one shot and closed the pit with a huge eplosion..and water inrush....his Father was my Colliery Overman at the time,down Choppington B Pit..[the High Pit].
Noo!,bonny lad,can a ask ye wat YE think,is Pitmatic..??..[cos a get the feeling ye think the Geordie dialect is,and Pitmatic has nowt ti dae wi local dialects at aal...wherever they might be!]...see if ye can decipher me bit quick-fire natter at thi top..!
Wey haway man,the blerk wee's written the book cannit even taak the propa twang like us aal. A was born in Ashington,brought up in Guidepost and have lived in Scotland for 18 years and av nivva lost me pit yakka twang yit. It's owa strang,hew!
how ister
Superb!
Try pitmatic, dialect from the North East
MARRAGH = PAL...........YACKA= MINE FACE WORKER
Sounds like Geordie Pingu
this is just newcastle really
No it's Northumberland
No it’s not, it’s country Durham, Northumberland - anywhere with pits
@@ryanbell4952 That is correct,Marra,as lang as ya not referrin' ti just local dialects,cos it's got nowt ti dae wi that,or hoo fowk taak..it's the use of pit torminology creeping inti ivryday taakin'...."..that bugga tells mair lees than a colliery polis"..."..ughh...aam reet off thi crucks thi day..."..."..ya stannin' theor like a brrrokkkin' paor 'ri limmas...man...put yasel away man...it'll be lowse afore wi get redd arrroond.."he was aal drresssed up for thi dinner dance,ye knaa wat a mean...two flat sheets 'n a brrrikkin-off plank..."..[denoting a white bib and bow tie as worn by so-caaled "upper-class" cheds..!]...and only,and a mean ONLY..[underlined!!]...a true aad pitman wud knaa wat THAT one was....nen o ya yung'uns who aanly knaa mechanisation...AAM taaking aad-fashioned pitwark!! ,in aal leave it it that! Cheers Marra,a hope wi both get through ti them that THINK thi knaa....wen thi acshilly knaa nowt aboot Pitmatic!
Nah it’s Northumberland mate
@@highpitwilma Tbf many languages look strikingly different if you completely ignore spelling and just type phonetically.
load ov crap geordie is the national language from tyneside to berwick, its all inherited from the norseman, the saying goes, ow lorde protect us from the wrathe ov the norseman, man