Is there a way to get the Both IR4 DMX on ControlOne with Donner Transmitter back in sync? 3 Months ago my IR4 DMX went rogue and I can no longer control them no matter what channeling or address. SS only has a 10 Channel profile and nothing for Channel 6. Heard something about putting them on a different group and world but now they're just untouchable on DMX. Love love these for mobile and lighting. Will buy more but don't want to be stuck on an island if I can't control them except through Master/slave.
Just got 16 of these and used them for the first time this past weekend. Haven't dove into the world of DMX yet (still deciding between SS & Wolfmix) but they ran nearly flawlessly for me for about 4 hours on their built in Master-Slave mode and with the IR remote. That being said, I can totally see where having the controllability of DMX would be super useful. Definitely feeling happy with the purchase!
Question; I use the Chauvet d-Fi wireless DMX dongles. Can I use connect 1 RF4 light to my d-Fi transmitter to then control the rest of the rf4 lights?
So are you telling me that it will light up to the beat of every song? With me using the DMX feature? Only? Or the lights with music have to be with the controller?
Hello Daryl, great video. I bought 4 of them and I have 4 S4s. Using SS in autoscript mode, the S4s will chase each other but iR4s will not. They are set 2 primary, 2 secondary, 4 separate address groups just like the S4s. Do you where I went wrong.
Hello. Nice review. I am wondering if battery duration in those lights can be extended with so called "Barrel Jack Adapter - USB to 5.5mm" and power bank on other end? Any experience there? Thanks for answering.
I’ve been running IR4s for sometime. I bought them direct from China. The delivery was very quick and I’ve never regretted my purchase for a single moment. Will be adding the newly released Both Chroma Cannon. They can master slave with IR4s using RF remote rather than IR. I’ve also used the Both lighting App. It’s not very sophisticated but you can select custom colour (color!), brightness between 1-100 and speed of chases very accurately. For value for money they are simply unmatched.
The RF4 has a radio remote but doesn't work very well with dmx. (can only program one address), the IR4 uses an IR remote (needs line of sight) but can use DMX very normally
I bought a set of these....how bright are they compared to the overpriced versions of Chauvet, ADJ or Rockville? So far, they are rock solid with the battery. Currently using soundswitch. Can you have soundswitch use them as sound active under effect #190? Thanks
I'm considering these vs more chinese knock off (Chauvet Freedom) pars from Vshow. I'm concerned that the IR4s will look weak when set in the same room as my Freedom (knock offs). What do you think?
Hi Daryl, I have a question. I just bought 16 IR4 lights from both Lightning. I want to use them in combination with 4 Ayra ero 150bsw movers and wolfmix. Before I use 2 chauvet fx washers with them movers and some bars. Do you think that I still need the Chauvets if I use the IR4 uplights? Is it enough wash light with only the IR4 pointing to the ceiling? Next question: do you let all you IR4’s in slave with the master one in dmx or do you use different dmx channels for different uplights to use chains? In other words does all your ir4’s at a venue have the same colours or do you mix them with different dmx channels. Thank you very much. Like your content ! Greetings from Holland
I personally don’t wash the dance floor if I bring up lights but many do. So my advice is try it and see if you like it. Wolfmix is pretty easy to adjust the number of uplights, so you could do all unique addresses. I hate putting that many in order though, so I have 4 unique addresses so I can scale up or down more easily
Hey man! thanks for all of your reporting. These are great. The magnets are strong and very cool to have as an option. Do you maybe have a recommendation for a multi charger type deal for these (and maybe beyond, as I have some tube lights that charge via usb c) If you have an affiliate link, I'll use it! Thanks again
@@DJDarylBennett Thanks for your speedy reply! I have learned so much from your channel and truly appreciate you and the time you spend creating and sharing content. Cheers!
Hi Daryl ive just changing my lighting set up i sold my chauvet ils. Now ive got bothlighting Two moving heads spot Mh 150, Two 100 battery operated beam lights and 16 ir4 uplights and 4 tribeam uplights.. how much this cost from your soundswitch program.. your followers from United kingdom Nottingham...
Great video! It's great to hear an update. I made a few videos when I got these, and have had them for over a year using them exclusively with Master Slave mode and IR remotes without any issues! Im curious to hear what issues those people were having with Master Slave mode.
I've even had a couple of local people tell me that they weren't connecting, and pointing the remote wasn't the easiest. Idk if it was hardware or user error, but I've had some DMs with similar issues. I'm glad it's been working for you!
@@DJDarylBennett definitely agree about the remote part, the range isn’t great cuz it’s an IR remote but interesting to know about the other issues. Thanks for the great video as always!!
Hey Shay! Great to hear you still love yours, I remember our conversation when I first got the IR4 and you got the Rockville instead haha I really fell out of love with my IR4, and thinking of selling them because I’m going back 100% to ape labs products.
@@Realdjheisenberg Whats up Heisenberg!! Yea i remember our long comment thread on ricks video hahah I actually ended up getting the IR4 too and sending back the Rockvilles and have been happy so far. Im curious to hear your experience -- what made you decide to sell the IR4s!!
Yeah I took your advice which led to me returning 8 cheapy LED pars from Amazon and dropped another couple hundred for 8 of these Both lights…I’m incredibly happy with them! With the wireless DMX from soundswitch. First gig with them 2 nights ago they were spot on!
For the price they are a nice addition to any mobile DJ. But they have two big limitations people should be aware: -cheap plastic optics make them more suitable for simple wash applications (you can't get a beautiful sharp uplight beam like the Ape Labs, even the Both S4's have sharper beams, due to the IR4's extreme flat form and thus wide angle lenses. You can't beat optic physics) -no long distance control coverage (they don't repeat the signal "to infinity" like the Ape Labs, so you are out of luck in a large ballroom, or in a room filled with WiFi interference; both very common during weddings) other small limitations: -no DMX in/out so you are stuck with wireless no matter what -no software update so you are stuck with whatever firmware comes with your light I would love to see how you set up your control DMX in large rooms. Do you put your transmitter on top of a pole to reach as far as possible? I found that if I keep the transmitter by my booth, I barely get to the end of the dancefloor, let alone the rest of the ballroom. I gave up using mine in any way other than to light up the back of the ballrooms where a static "all night color" works. I just set them and forget. For all mission critical application, Ape Labs is the king of the hill. Much smoother musik mode, fantastic color blend and true beam shape all the way to the ceiling; constant software update to bring new features (recently the strobe effect, that I actually requested on their social media lol!) and of course last but not least: "infinite" range.
Ape Labs have some nifty features for sure, but unless you’re committed to the musik mode, I feel like a lot of the extra features aren’t super necessary for most. More coverage with more units will provide a better effect than shape of beam angle. Which is more possible with a cheaper price. Personally I’ve had no issues with drop outs, even in big venues. My donner dongle just sits in my booth.
@@DJDarylBennett to each their own as they say. I have ape labs, S4’s and IR4’s. The S4’s are the closest thing to an ape labs in terms of elegant beam look, and range (thanks to the external antenna), but they are so bulky and freaking heavy. In my mind, and for the weddings that I do, a sharp wall beam offers a far superior product than the plain wall wash effect of the IR4. I really tried hard to love my IR4’s but I found the finicky wireless system and wide angle lenses was just not worth saving a few thousand dollars over ape labs. In the grand scheme of things, your ape labs will last a decade and keep their resale value (used ape labs sell for nearly MSRP on eBay!).
@realdjheisenberg I'm considering these vs more chinese knock off (Chauvet Freedom) pars from Vshow. I'm concerned that the IR4s will look weak when set in the same room as my Freedom (knock offs). What do you think?
Amazing but my question is how to get them to Norway? When I ask they are sending them to Norway but the VAT in Norway is crazy when we buy things from China or USA ... so you guys are lucky !!!
Love your stuff! Here's a thought, tell me what you think. I don't have the IR-4s, but I do have the Rockville RF-4s (as you know, basically the same light without the DMX screen). They might be more of a plug and play solution because they use an RF remote instead of a IR remote. Personally, I've taken your advise and use Sound Switch, so for me the RF-4s are more limited than the IR-4s. But for someone looking for a plug and play solution, they might be a better option. Just a thought.
I bought 12 bolt lights model number S4 so far I’ve had them for about 10 months and yesterday after replacing 3 defective batteries I did an event and nine of the 12 lights went black in less than two hours. One of those up lights I just replaced the batteries. So it can’t be the battery on that one it must be a circuit board I guess. I filled out a warranty form and left a voicemail and still have not heard back from anybody concerning this issue. I sure am hoping that they make this purchase whole by, either fixing these lights or exchanging them. I will edit this post after I have a solution as i am being hopeful that i received a bad batch .Thank you, DJ Alan.
I’ve had close associates get the big cube and s6 and they’ve been mostly solid for years now. (One lost wireless dmx). I’ve never heard anything like your situation! I hope you get a speedy resolution
@@DJDarylBennett just wish i could speak to a real person that answers my call or returns my message in a timely fashion. So far I’m in limbo here waiting for a resolution to happen but not even sure if anything is happening behind the scenes. No communication is not a good look Thank You Allan
I love my IR4’s ✅ the only problem is that if you want to use them throughout day them may die before the night ends. But I suppose due to the size that makes sense
I get my lights from rainbow. They’re exactly the same as both but right up the road in IL and service has been fantastic. Been wanting to sell my towers and get these. They’ve been great but too heavy and take too much room.
I agree these aren't for those that just want to turn them on and forget about it. Although they can be used that way. You just don't get their full affect unless you use them with some sort of DMX system. Sound Switch has been as close to turn on a d leave em as it gets and still have FMX control with my Both ir-4 uplights.
look greatbas a compact light and light light. 👍but Still I wouldn't change them for my mega lite Q900. I can do upto 3 6-8hrs gig s with out recharge them...now it's been about 7yrs all 24 fixtures still work as new.
While I do love them, they cause me some headaches when setting up. If you turn them on all at once (or within a few minutes of one another), a big number of them will just ignore DMX and listen to a rogue master. Best thing to do is to turn them on one by one, make sure it listens to the DMX signal and only then move to the next one. Also happens now and then that one loses signal during the evening.
These are the easiest lights to master the slave. All you have to do is set one light as a master, and with all the other lights, just take your remote and there’s a button on it that says slave pointed to the light press slave and automatically they go into slave mode can’t get any easier than that. 😊
I think as far as a plug n play solution, with plug n play mode using musik mode, yeah it's hard to beat. For every other application, I think the ir4 is better value
Apes are the best, but they're definitely not $300+/each better. Once I showed my buddy these compared to his Maxi 2.0s side by side, he was convinced. For the price of 2 Maxi's I can get 10 of these.
@@DJDarylBennett they have a remote and can use tablet and or phone to control lights AND they can be DMX'ed. Bottom line in life " you get what you pay for". If you buy cheap you are... JS not you but in general.
that is because the IR4's are wash lights, not true uplights like the Ape Labs. They can't make a "beam" effect against a wall because they are so flat, that the lenses are very wide angle and disperse the light too wide.
I see the case with the 20 in it. Is that also set up to charge too?? Or do you prefer the soft bags ???
Is there a way to get the Both IR4 DMX on ControlOne with Donner Transmitter back in sync? 3 Months ago my IR4 DMX went rogue and I can no longer control them no matter what channeling or address. SS only has a 10 Channel profile and nothing for Channel 6. Heard something about putting them on a different group and world but now they're just untouchable on DMX. Love love these for mobile and lighting. Will buy more but don't want to be stuck on an island if I can't control them except through Master/slave.
Just got 16 of these and used them for the first time this past weekend. Haven't dove into the world of DMX yet (still deciding between SS & Wolfmix) but they ran nearly flawlessly for me for about 4 hours on their built in Master-Slave mode and with the IR remote. That being said, I can totally see where having the controllability of DMX would be super useful. Definitely feeling happy with the purchase!
Awesome! It’s true that if the internal dmx goes out, then you’re sorry out of luck! Glad it worked great for you
Do you have a profile for the wolfmix W1 for bothlight 360 tube and uplight . Thanks or any body here know somebody that does.
Should be in Wolfmix
Question; I use the Chauvet d-Fi wireless DMX dongles. Can I use connect 1 RF4 light to my d-Fi transmitter to then control the rest of the rf4 lights?
No because the rf4 doesn't have dmx inputs
Great rundown! I heard you about the soundswitch, what do you use as a transmitter for the wireless DMX if you don't mind me asking?
A donner wireless transmitter dongle
So are you telling me that it will light up to the beat of every song? With me using the DMX feature? Only? Or the lights with music have to be with the controller?
It has a sound active mode too. Just these will have the best results with DMX
I use SoundSwitch with Chauvet Di-FI dongles. Will the Both IR4's connect to Di-Fi, or what are my options.
No they won't. You'll need a different transmitter just for the Both IR4s
Hello Daryl, great video. I bought 4 of them and I have 4 S4s. Using SS in autoscript mode, the S4s will chase each other but iR4s will not. They are set 2 primary, 2 secondary, 4 separate address groups just like the S4s. Do you where I went wrong.
The s4's dmx profile is exactly the same as the IR4, maybe just create more s4 profiles if they're working
@DJDarylBennett Thank you. I will try that.
Hello. Nice review. I am wondering if battery duration in those lights can be extended with so called "Barrel Jack Adapter - USB to 5.5mm" and power bank on other end? Any experience there? Thanks for answering.
These last so long so I don’t think that’d be necessary.
Still working hard whilst being on vacation. Great video as always.
Where is the link for the soundswitch software that you mentioned?
Here you go! darylbennett.net/the-soundswitch-shortcut/
I’ve been running IR4s for sometime. I bought them direct from China. The delivery was very quick and I’ve never regretted my purchase for a single moment. Will be adding the newly released Both Chroma Cannon. They can master slave with IR4s using RF remote rather than IR. I’ve also used the Both lighting App. It’s not very sophisticated but you can select custom colour (color!), brightness between 1-100 and speed of chases very accurately. For value for money they are simply unmatched.
whats the difference between IR4 and RF4 please?
The RF4 has a radio remote but doesn't work very well with dmx. (can only program one address), the IR4 uses an IR remote (needs line of sight) but can use DMX very normally
What is the carrying case you use for them?
The original soft bags that they come with and a pelican case 1615 amzn.to/3ydpIuF
@@DJDarylBennett Ok thanks. For some reason mine didn't come with a soft case only the case that charges them.
I bought a set of these....how bright are they compared to the overpriced versions of Chauvet, ADJ or Rockville? So far, they are rock solid with the battery. Currently using soundswitch. Can you have soundswitch use them as sound active under effect #190? Thanks
hi ! Are these par compatible with the w-dmx solution ?
Like Wireless Solutions W-DMX? No. Just normal wireless DMX
@@DJDarylBennett its pity, it won't going to work with my transmetteur however thks for your reply and congrats for your youtube channel !
Happy with mine, had them in the rain as well at an event and still good to go. Didn't submerge them but they def got wet.
Wow awesome!
I'm considering these vs more chinese knock off (Chauvet Freedom) pars from Vshow. I'm concerned that the IR4s will look weak when set in the same room as my Freedom (knock offs). What do you think?
It might in a plain ballroom. But in a venue with different architectural elements, pillars, furniture, etc... To highlight, it'd probably be fine.
Hi Daryl, I have a question. I just bought 16 IR4 lights from both Lightning. I want to use them in combination with 4 Ayra ero 150bsw movers and wolfmix. Before I use 2 chauvet fx washers with them movers and some bars. Do you think that I still need the Chauvets if I use the IR4 uplights? Is it enough wash light with only the IR4 pointing to the ceiling? Next question: do you let all you IR4’s in slave with the master one in dmx or do you use different dmx channels for different uplights to use chains? In other words does all your ir4’s at a venue have the same colours or do you mix them with different dmx channels. Thank you very much. Like your content ! Greetings from Holland
I personally don’t wash the dance floor if I bring up lights but many do. So my advice is try it and see if you like it.
Wolfmix is pretty easy to adjust the number of uplights, so you could do all unique addresses. I hate putting that many in order though, so I have 4 unique addresses so I can scale up or down more easily
Hey man! thanks for all of your reporting. These are great. The magnets are strong and very cool to have as an option. Do you maybe have a recommendation for a multi charger type deal for these (and maybe beyond, as I have some tube lights that charge via usb c) If you have an affiliate link, I'll use it! Thanks again
I just have a big power strip with all the charger plugs in it
Thanks for the video Daryl. Forgive me if I do not see it, but I can't find the link to purchase your programming for soundswitch? Thanks
darylbennett.net/the-soundswitch-shortcut/
Thank you for your interest!
@@DJDarylBennett Thanks for your speedy reply! I have learned so much from your channel and truly appreciate you and the time you spend creating and sharing content. Cheers!
Hi Daryl ive just changing my lighting set up i sold my chauvet ils. Now ive got bothlighting Two moving heads spot Mh 150, Two 100 battery operated beam lights and 16 ir4 uplights and 4 tribeam uplights.. how much this cost from your soundswitch program.. your followers from United kingdom Nottingham...
Check it out at darylbennett.net
Great video! It's great to hear an update. I made a few videos when I got these, and have had them for over a year using them exclusively with Master Slave mode and IR remotes without any issues! Im curious to hear what issues those people were having with Master Slave mode.
I've even had a couple of local people tell me that they weren't connecting, and pointing the remote wasn't the easiest. Idk if it was hardware or user error, but I've had some DMs with similar issues. I'm glad it's been working for you!
@@DJDarylBennett definitely agree about the remote part, the range isn’t great cuz it’s an IR remote but interesting to know about the other issues. Thanks for the great video as always!!
Hey Shay! Great to hear you still love yours, I remember our conversation when I first got the IR4 and you got the Rockville instead haha
I really fell out of love with my IR4, and thinking of selling them because I’m going back 100% to ape labs products.
@@Realdjheisenberg Whats up Heisenberg!! Yea i remember our long comment thread on ricks video hahah I actually ended up getting the IR4 too and sending back the Rockvilles and have been happy so far. Im curious to hear your experience -- what made you decide to sell the IR4s!!
@@MrMaui38 read my comments above on this video! :)
For what they are, best $1500 or so I've ever spent. Zero regrets
Same here
Yeah I took your advice which led to me returning 8 cheapy LED pars from Amazon and dropped another couple hundred for 8 of these Both lights…I’m incredibly happy with them! With the wireless DMX from soundswitch. First gig with them 2 nights ago they were spot on!
Thanks for sharing! Thats awesome
For the price they are a nice addition to any mobile DJ. But they have two big limitations people should be aware:
-cheap plastic optics make them more suitable for simple wash applications (you can't get a beautiful sharp uplight beam like the Ape Labs, even the Both S4's have sharper beams, due to the IR4's extreme flat form and thus wide angle lenses. You can't beat optic physics)
-no long distance control coverage (they don't repeat the signal "to infinity" like the Ape Labs, so you are out of luck in a large ballroom, or in a room filled with WiFi interference; both very common during weddings)
other small limitations:
-no DMX in/out so you are stuck with wireless no matter what
-no software update so you are stuck with whatever firmware comes with your light
I would love to see how you set up your control DMX in large rooms. Do you put your transmitter on top of a pole to reach as far as possible? I found that if I keep the transmitter by my booth, I barely get to the end of the dancefloor, let alone the rest of the ballroom.
I gave up using mine in any way other than to light up the back of the ballrooms where a static "all night color" works. I just set them and forget. For all mission critical application, Ape Labs is the king of the hill. Much smoother musik mode, fantastic color blend and true beam shape all the way to the ceiling; constant software update to bring new features (recently the strobe effect, that I actually requested on their social media lol!) and of course last but not least: "infinite" range.
Ape Labs have some nifty features for sure, but unless you’re committed to the musik mode, I feel like a lot of the extra features aren’t super necessary for most. More coverage with more units will provide a better effect than shape of beam angle. Which is more possible with a cheaper price. Personally I’ve had no issues with drop outs, even in big venues. My donner dongle just sits in my booth.
@@DJDarylBennett to each their own as they say. I have ape labs, S4’s and IR4’s. The S4’s are the closest thing to an ape labs in terms of elegant beam look, and range (thanks to the external antenna), but they are so bulky and freaking heavy. In my mind, and for the weddings that I do, a sharp wall beam offers a far superior product than the plain wall wash effect of the IR4.
I really tried hard to love my IR4’s but I found the finicky wireless system and wide angle lenses was just not worth saving a few thousand dollars over ape labs. In the grand scheme of things, your ape labs will last a decade and keep their resale value (used ape labs sell for nearly MSRP on eBay!).
@realdjheisenberg
I'm considering these vs more chinese knock off (Chauvet Freedom) pars from Vshow. I'm concerned that the IR4s will look weak when set in the same room as my Freedom (knock offs). What do you think?
Amazing but my question is how to get them to Norway? When I ask they are sending them to Norway but the VAT in Norway is crazy when we buy things from China or USA ... so you guys are lucky !!!
🤔🤔 sorry man! Wish I could offer some advice for Norway!
I purchased 8 of them and use them as a "free" upgrade whenever possible cause I love bringing them as they are the easiest lights to bring and setup.
So easy
Love your stuff! Here's a thought, tell me what you think. I don't have the IR-4s, but I do have the Rockville RF-4s (as you know, basically the same light without the DMX screen). They might be more of a plug and play solution because they use an RF remote instead of a IR remote. Personally, I've taken your advise and use Sound Switch, so for me the RF-4s are more limited than the IR-4s. But for someone looking for a plug and play solution, they might be a better option. Just a thought.
That's true! The RF remote doesn't need direct line of sight. But I can't speak for how reliable they are either
Can you send me the link to that case?
amzn.to/3p2Cxno pelican case
I bought 12 bolt lights model number S4 so far I’ve had them for about 10 months and yesterday after replacing 3 defective batteries I did an event and nine of the 12 lights went black in less than two hours. One of those up lights I just replaced the batteries. So it can’t be the battery on that one it must be a circuit board I guess. I filled out a warranty form and left a voicemail and still have not heard back from anybody concerning this issue. I sure am hoping that they make this purchase whole by, either fixing these lights or exchanging them. I will edit this post after I have a solution as i am being hopeful that i received a bad batch .Thank you, DJ Alan.
I’ve had close associates get the big cube and s6 and they’ve been mostly solid for years now. (One lost wireless dmx). I’ve never heard anything like your situation! I hope you get a speedy resolution
@@DJDarylBennett just wish i could speak to a real person that answers my call or returns my message in a timely fashion. So far I’m in limbo here waiting for a resolution to happen but not even sure if anything is happening behind the scenes. No communication is not a good look Thank You Allan
I love my IR4’s ✅ the only problem is that if you want to use them throughout day them may die before the night ends. But I suppose due to the size that makes sense
I’ve yet to have one die at an event, but I’ve had other uplights die
I get my lights from rainbow. They’re exactly the same as both but right up the road in IL and service has been fantastic. Been wanting to sell my towers and get these. They’ve been great but too heavy and take too much room.
Yeah the small size has been a game changer
Am in between Boths prices and Rainbow, I have heard great things about their customer service (IL dj here) but their prices are slightly higher
I agree these aren't for those that just want to turn them on and forget about it. Although they can be used that way. You just don't get their full affect unless you use them with some sort of DMX system. Sound Switch has been as close to turn on a d leave em as it gets and still have FMX control with my Both ir-4 uplights.
Amen brotha!
look greatbas a compact light and light light. 👍but Still I wouldn't change them for my mega lite Q900. I can do upto 3 6-8hrs gig s with out recharge them...now it's been about 7yrs all 24 fixtures still work as new.
If your current solution is working and you’re happy, then there’s no need to switch!
I’m thinking about selling my
20 Both S6’s and getting these.
don't do it!
While I do love them, they cause me some headaches when setting up. If you turn them on all at once (or within a few minutes of one another), a big number of them will just ignore DMX and listen to a rogue master. Best thing to do is to turn them on one by one, make sure it listens to the DMX signal and only then move to the next one. Also happens now and then that one loses signal during the evening.
The rogue master... Haha very true. I've just been trying to only use DMX to ensure none of them have a mind of their own
These are the easiest lights to master the slave. All you have to do is set one light as a master, and with all the other lights, just take your remote and there’s a button on it that says slave pointed to the light press slave and automatically they go into slave mode can’t get any easier than that. 😊
I have over 70 Ape lights... THE BEST ! (Maxi)
I think as far as a plug n play solution, with plug n play mode using musik mode, yeah it's hard to beat. For every other application, I think the ir4 is better value
Apes are the best, but they're definitely not $300+/each better. Once I showed my buddy these compared to his Maxi 2.0s side by side, he was convinced. For the price of 2 Maxi's I can get 10 of these.
I agree. You get what you pay for.
@@DJDarylBennett they have a remote and can use tablet and or phone to control lights AND they can be DMX'ed. Bottom line in life " you get what you pay for". If you buy cheap you are... JS not you but in general.
I still think the best part 50s from Rockville are the best priced battery up lights
If you buy these direct you can get them cheaper than the Best part 50s. I would say performance is nearly identical, as I have both for comparison.
@@cgentertainment2370 I purchased 16 BP 50 with hard charging case for $1600 from Rockville. Was yours with hard case or carrying bag?
These lights ars good for the small venues but for the ballrooms with the big walls.. not so good.
Overall they're are a good product for the price
Tall more than big. They won't reach to the top if there's strong house lights
that is because the IR4's are wash lights, not true uplights like the Ape Labs. They can't make a "beam" effect against a wall because they are so flat, that the lenses are very wide angle and disperse the light too wide.
the master slave on these aren’t hard to setup at all, for the price these can’t be beat.
I’ve just heard people say that it’s not that reliable or range isn’t very good. I only use them with dmx so I can’t confirm nor deny
@@DJDarylBennett I have four of them and never had an issue. I mostly use them for wash. no reliability issues.
U king lights are more affordabl
Uking has some good lights in their selection, but nothing to match the both ir4
So this is basically a commercial?
Lol not like I own them or sell them. Just sharing my experiences, which have been positive