Well my guess is that we have a Liu Association Appearance coming up in the story and so are going to get a burst of Burn ID'S.......same position Bleed was in when we knew Bloodfiends were coming
@@MrJpc1234no bleed is definitely better in situation before bloodfiends, ringsang and ringtis, nfaust, and rhino. count isnt much of a problem and if you get things going, haha ringsang 72 damage rolls and ringtis 60 damage rolls.
@Mikairium I wasn't saying its exactly the same I was just making a comparison because I'm hoping the Honglu Chapter with it's Chinese theme will also have A Liu Association presence for the sane reason
One really strange point in Gregor's EGO design is to inflict say Sloth Fragility and you have to spend 4-6 or more Sloth skills this turn, it means you DON'T HAVE THOSE SLOTH SKILLS TO ABUSE THE EXACT FRAGILITY TYPE NEXT TURN. Which means it has a contradictory design.
@@shadymann9468i mean the debuffs it can apply are still decent so long as you can get the conditionals its very much not a tremor ego since its main benefits are for low sanity, (which is good because gregor effectively has no tremor, his only "tremor id" is a rupture id only used because aedd exists) and for the resonance part you realistically only need 3 resonance, and then you can just have your other characters not make another resonance not like it makes it much better tho
Doesn't tremor reverb get affected by sloth fragility though? Could be wrong but if I'm not that's likely the intended use case if you run out of sloth skills.
Molar Ishmael also wants the self-Tremor Count that this EGO provides, is the best ishmael to run on sinking teams if you want to give Spicebush Yi Sang his extra self-Tremor, and it's easier to keep enemies in low morale than it is in keeping them staggered. Zwei Ish will likely still get the most bang for buck out of the EGO, but Molar Ishmael makes best use out of all parts of it.
season 1 was mixed, season 2 had tremor, rupture the most, season 3 was the bleed and poise, season 4 was really long with sinking, ring, tremor and some charge, then season 5 is mostly been bleed and rupture, btw(edit) didn't mention walpurgis as I don't think it matched the season's types
gregor's one heavily leans into the enemy having low sanity stuff, so it works far better for linton than his "tremor identity" (rosepanner only "works" for rupture)
@@yesno4326Yeah but... it's in his HE slot. Gredgar's pretty much been glued to Solemn Lament since he got it, and I can't imagine the benefits of Christmas Nightmare outweighing Solemn Lament's massive damage potential even if its numbers are amazing. At least it's not WN-locked? But Greg won't be able to bring out its full potential, whatever that is, until he gets an actual Tremor ID. He'll likely just use it as a generic AoE damage EGO until then, which it's likely to do better at than anything he has now.
7:35 These EGO are incredibly straightforward. they're both "disability" focused: They care equally about stagger, low SP, panic, etc. They apply other general debuffs, and they give very strong general bonuses to your team. Also you misread / underestimate the passive on Gregor's: ALL enemies get Offense/Defense level down equal to the number of staggered / low morale enemies, which for Sinking and Tremor is... most of them, most of the time. Also 7:50 Gregor's Corrosion does have changes you ignored: It heals TWICE, once pre-attack and again mid-attack, potentially making it more likely for you to get the Max HP conditional.
YES!!!!!!! I wasn't really interested in those ego when their trailer came out, but them being not only tremor, but also sloth changes EVERYTHING, the only problem with zwei ishy on a tremor team is that she often cock blocks everlasting chains, but that might be no more
I mean it's more about staggering/low moral/panicking specifically, hence why there's both sinking and tremor, either stagger them with tremor or panic them with sinking
I suspect Christmas Nightmare will actually end up being just as good for Molar Ish. Molar needs 10 tremor count to activate the extremely powerful conditionals on her s3, but her tremor gain is not as powerful or free as Zwei’s. The passive really helps in that regard.
Molar S1 gains a decent amount and Yuro Ryoshu support passive exists, she really has no problems reaching 10 count. But yes, the ego passive is still really good for her, more so if you use spicebush ys instead of solemn lament
ishmaels ego is cool and all but it's competing with ardor blossom star and wingbeat, so it's definitely going to be a tough choice if you have those two
That passive on Ish is neat but dunno about sinking team cause it is HE jsut like... Bygone Days. A bonkers EGO with healing and attack weight and potential gloom fragility. No way Im switching that on Mollar Ish. Maybe on Zwei since tremor team has Fluid Sac.
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Trinking is coming, molar Ishmael, spicebush yi sang, and potential man himself. They were the prelude. Potential man will take his throne.
He has 1 Tremor Burst get real
@@Girlwhathappended the potentials there!
@@Girlwhathappended nah, it’ll be vital for the team. Potential man sweep.
as a tremor user, why are we getting more tremor give the burn bros something non walp locked
Well my guess is that we have a Liu Association Appearance coming up in the story and so are going to get a burst of Burn ID'S.......same position Bleed was in when we knew Bloodfiends were coming
@@MrJpc1234no bleed is definitely better in situation before bloodfiends, ringsang and ringtis, nfaust, and rhino. count isnt much of a problem and if you get things going, haha ringsang 72 damage rolls and ringtis 60 damage rolls.
@Mikairium I wasn't saying its exactly the same I was just making a comparison because I'm hoping the Honglu Chapter with it's Chinese theme will also have A Liu Association presence for the sane reason
tremor about to get a burn version of tremor before a new burn id. Watch them make a downpour reverb tremor.
@@MrJpc1234hope so but we haven’t got anything from tres or eight association
Ishmael's E.G.O.s passive is freaking bonkers...
One really strange point in Gregor's EGO design is to inflict say Sloth Fragility and you have to spend 4-6 or more Sloth skills this turn, it means you DON'T HAVE THOSE SLOTH SKILLS TO ABUSE THE EXACT FRAGILITY TYPE NEXT TURN. Which means it has a contradictory design.
Gregor got one good ID and was immediately hit with a mediocre EGO
@@shadymann9468i mean the debuffs it can apply are still decent so long as you can get the conditionals
its very much not a tremor ego since its main benefits are for low sanity, (which is good because gregor effectively has no tremor, his only "tremor id" is a rupture id only used because aedd exists)
and for the resonance part you realistically only need 3 resonance, and then you can just have your other characters not make another resonance
not like it makes it much better tho
Doesn't tremor reverb get affected by sloth fragility though? Could be wrong but if I'm not that's likely the intended use case if you run out of sloth skills.
Me using time moratorium: observe.
@hauntedhoody2976 Time moratorium always does so much damage I forget it's sloth half the time.
classic tremor ego
ishys having 1 application of sinking for no reason is Really funny
Ish born to inflict Sinking
forced to inflict Tremor
The theme of terrifying monster under your bed pairs well with low sanity of the victim
its meant to work with molar ishmael so it makes sense ig
@@yesno4326 zwei ishmael:
Molar Ishmael also wants the self-Tremor Count that this EGO provides, is the best ishmael to run on sinking teams if you want to give Spicebush Yi Sang his extra self-Tremor, and it's easier to keep enemies in low morale than it is in keeping them staggered.
Zwei Ish will likely still get the most bang for buck out of the EGO, but Molar Ishmael makes best use out of all parts of it.
I'm kinda surprised that we're back to tremor
season 1 was mixed, season 2 had tremor, rupture the most, season 3 was the bleed and poise, season 4 was really long with sinking, ring, tremor and some charge, then season 5 is mostly been bleed and rupture, btw(edit) didn't mention walpurgis as I don't think it matched the season's types
Okay so we badically got a Molar Boatworks Ishmael buff and... Rossepanner Gregor????
gregor's one heavily leans into the enemy having low sanity stuff, so it works far better for linton than his "tremor identity" (rosepanner only "works" for rupture)
@@yesno4326Yeah but... it's in his HE slot. Gredgar's pretty much been glued to Solemn Lament since he got it, and I can't imagine the benefits of Christmas Nightmare outweighing Solemn Lament's massive damage potential even if its numbers are amazing. At least it's not WN-locked? But Greg won't be able to bring out its full potential, whatever that is, until he gets an actual Tremor ID. He'll likely just use it as a generic AoE damage EGO until then, which it's likely to do better at than anything he has now.
Zwei and Molar Ishmael owners drooling at the mouth over that EGO
7:35 These EGO are incredibly straightforward. they're both "disability" focused: They care equally about stagger, low SP, panic, etc. They apply other general debuffs, and they give very strong general bonuses to your team. Also you misread / underestimate the passive on Gregor's: ALL enemies get Offense/Defense level down equal to the number of staggered / low morale enemies, which for Sinking and Tremor is... most of them, most of the time. Also 7:50 Gregor's Corrosion does have changes you ignored: It heals TWICE, once pre-attack and again mid-attack, potentially making it more likely for you to get the Max HP conditional.
Honestly all of this really makes me think that Full Stop will be Tremor.
YES!!!!!!! I wasn't really interested in those ego when their trailer came out, but them being not only tremor, but also sloth changes EVERYTHING, the only problem with zwei ishy on a tremor team is that she often cock blocks everlasting chains, but that might be no more
I Tremor till I Burst
I mean it's more about staggering/low moral/panicking specifically, hence why there's both sinking and tremor, either stagger them with tremor or panic them with sinking
I suspect Christmas Nightmare will actually end up being just as good for Molar Ish. Molar needs 10 tremor count to activate the extremely powerful conditionals on her s3, but her tremor gain is not as powerful or free as Zwei’s. The passive really helps in that regard.
Molar S1 gains a decent amount and Yuro Ryoshu support passive exists, she really has no problems reaching 10 count. But yes, the ego passive is still really good for her, more so if you use spicebush ys instead of solemn lament
Gregor tremor id soon maybe?
Cant wait for the next walpurgis...
ishmaels ego is cool and all but it's competing with ardor blossom star and wingbeat, so it's definitely going to be a tough choice if you have those two
That passive on Ish is neat but dunno about sinking team cause it is HE jsut like... Bygone Days. A bonkers EGO with healing and attack weight and potential gloom fragility.
No way Im switching that on Mollar Ish.
Maybe on Zwei since tremor team has Fluid Sac.
SAME HERE but LUST FRAGILITY and for the GAMBLERS glut fragility(shame its not a teth otherwise i woudve went for a GLOOM-SOLEMN COMBO)
isnt bygone days teth??? or am i hallucinating
@@Mikairiumit is teth, yes
however, bygone day is a teth ego
so this ego is only competing with ardor blossom star, an ego for burn teams
Yeah I was gonna say, Bygone Days is a TETH. It's not competition for Christmas Nightmare, far from it.
Nuh uh, not spending anymore lunacy until walpurgis night
We have bleed, tremor and fake rupture in just a few months. Meanwhile our latest burn ids are the crybaby and a fricking artist.
Eepmael sound real good... too bad i dont have a good ishy.