Now listen here... that was entirely too clean, informative and well prepared for a RUclips vid. Not once did I feel I was wasting my time. Really high production value, you earned my follow and like, as well as probably sold me on the Onefinity. (Considering doing a vertical wall mount!) Keep it up.
I have been in the wood construction industry for 40 years and purchased a Onefinity a year ago, running V-Carve Pro. I am computer literate but have never had any dealing with CNC. I spent a month learning the software in my spare time and the machine was easy enough to not require much time in learning the operations. This machine has made such a change in my shop, the options are unlimited and left to your imagination from that point forward. I am in the process of funding the purchase of 2 more machines to ad to my shop. I know they have a 4X8 system that is my plan as well. Thank You Onefinity and V-Carve Pro.
I've been binge watching a bunch of videos because I've been looking at getting the Onefinity cnc and you guys have the most helpful videos! Thank you!
This is the best video I've seen about comparisons between two machines, as well as giving such specific info on the pros and cons of both machines. I'm still two months away from buying mine, and I'm leaning towards the x-carve with the upgrade kit recently offered. A primary reason is their 3 year subscription to Easel. Thank you for producing such a good video! Mike
Best acuracy test I have seen was the operator made a 2 meter ruler with mm on one side and inch on the other and then put it next to steel rulers and it was off so he went into the software Mach 3 and measured the over all length vs what he was trying to achieve and the second attempt was dead on. he did it in both the x and the y axis. It was impressive.
Thanks so much for walking us through this, I’m about to make my first CNC purchase and this video along with your video on setting up the new one finite has been SUPER DUPER helpful. You’re very concise and clear with facts and tips. Keep these videos coming, I’d love to see more videos on feed rates and any info one the onefinity CNC….its actually in my shopping cart right now and I’m about to press confirm!
Disclaimer: I like your videos. There are many factors that contribute to chatter from feed/speed rates to condition of end mills, from carriage positioning mechanism(belts, lead screws, rack and pinion, etc to overall machine set up(maintaining bolt torque, parallelism, etc.. independent of all of that is fixturing. I have a CNC Mill and have learned that fixturing is among the most important elements of obtaining a quality finish. While CA glue and masking tape is quick and easy, and may seem to take a significant amount of force to remove, it is NOT a direct replacement for mechanical fixturing. One can spend more time using mechanical fixturing at the front end and potentially less time on the back end sanding out the chatter. Side note - seeing your table move around (4:53) is EXACTLY what you don't want. The motion/energy created by the servo motors is intended to move only that XY axis, if it is moving the table, you are losing resolution. You might say you were only quickly jogging the machine around the table but that doesn't matter, you WILL lose resolution.
A Onefinity feeds and speeds video would be great! Maybe include a range of feeds/speeds you have found to work with the Onefinity and various common bits? Either way, great video comparison.
Awesome comparison/info video. All you're videos are really good and I'd already made my mind up about getting the Onefinity as soon as I saw your first video and it's construction. Seeing you're feeds and speeds for the Onefinity would be like another Xmas gift!! PS; I've been running my employers ShopSabre 48 Pro ATC since he first purchased it November 2019 and it uses ball screws for all 3 axis. We grease and lube the machine at the end of 20 hours machine run time without fail. I test the machine's x & Y axis with a machinist's dial indicator once a month and it's still +/- .001 after 1 year. I do use Vectric Aspire and Solidworks/CamWorks to generate tool paths (Solidworks is much easier to actually see what your creating than Aspire for me at least and what I've spent years learning/using as a CNC machinist.
Wow the Onefinity is the one. I don't know much about CNC's but one only needs to look at the construction. I first looked at Bobs CNC.....what! made out of wood...are you kidding. Then I thought the X carve was the one because of the construction......but now....I see the Onefinity....this is the design of the future...rock sturdy heavy duty, video screen, game style controller. This is the one to watch. Thanks for the videos.
Wow, great info~! I've been tossing around the idea of adding a CNC to my shop and was leaning toward the X-Carve. Seeing your video, it basically seems to be a no-brainer to lean the other way toward the Onefinity product. It appears the only decision I'm left with is still whether to add a CNC to my array of tools. Thanks much~!
@@TwoMooseDesign True. But, you would need to spend close to $1,100 to make the X-Carve as stiff as the Onefinity. I also notice Onefinity is on sale for $1,900 so... hmm. ;-)
Onefinity sent me the machine a while ago and has never paid me a dollar nor asked me to make any RUclips videos on the machine. I was a beta tester befor the machine came out and in return for testing the machine I got a production machine when it was available to the general public. I did pay full price for the x carve.
@@TwoMooseDesign Many thanks for your response. Your videos are awesome and I enjoy them because you got me interested in buying one. I'm now a new fan of yours from Mexico
to help with the chatter you can try milling the other direction. The X carve was climb milling which make chatter worse. might help with cleaner cuts. The onefinity rigidity is the clear winner tho. Thanks for the break down!
Seeing the comparison makes it an easy choice for me, it'll be a Onefinity later this year. Really appreciate you taking the time to show the comparison of the 2 CNCs.
Can you still get the Onefinity for $2500? I can't find it for that price. The X Carve has gotten cheaper down to $2200 but I can't find the Onefinity for less than $4000.
@@timmartin6748 Yeah, I found it and ordered the X-35 for $2400. The X-50 I believe is the $3900 one. But if you go to their site you can't easily find the X-35, at least I couldn't. I did find it from a Google search. Thanks!
The deciding factor between X-Carve, Shapeko, and Onefinity for me is the ease of set-up and that includes the durability of rails vs belts. The extra couple hundred in price is worth the 'idiot-proof' factor. Being disabled it can be difficult to move around little screws and guidewheels while fighting to tighten the belts. Seeing a RUclipsr actually stand on his machine makes me think that the OneFinity is the most durable starter I can get into.
Hey guys! Great video thanks for sharing! Would you be interested in doing a video in the future about the software you use and how to design/ drawing something from scratch ready for the Onefinity?
10:01 you could use polymorph plastic on the router knob. Since the know has a texture if done carefully it could be removable. And click back in to place
Awesome video :) I was just about to order a different CNC... and ran across your video and a few others. I just ordered mine :) lol sadly it will summer before it comes in!!! :(
Thank you, I see the subscription cost now. I am still on the fence since it is an investment either way between the two. It seems the Onefinity has more useable workspace, has more stability, is more time-efficient, has less assembly and maintenance, but doesn't have particular accessories that the X-carve has with respect to dust, waste-board, and a router. Before this video, I had no idea the Onefinity existed, so I am second guessing my X-carve decision, which I have not made the purchase yet.
@@thecrusader3152 yeah thats the biggest downside for sure. its a new company that launched when the pandemic started. They have quite the backorder list
The machines ability to be mounted (and function properly) vertically is a "Deal-Maker" for any small workshop. That's the reason I bought mine...whoo-hoo!
Thanks for watching! I personally think it’s the best one at that price level 🤷🏼♂️ getting over $4000 is a completely different realm of CNCs. For me and what I do the onefinity is perfect. I really hope they come out with a 4x4 model for sheet goods that would be amazing
As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement ruclips.net/user/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
if you used fusion u could set your feed optimisation, the gcode is going into corners too quickly, also you could set your outside contour cut .5mm below your model bottom to get a clean cut, no sanding afterwards
I would love to hear more about the bits you use and the feeds and speeds. Also, how you calculate value/time on the CNC. I also have the x carve 1000. Love it but balancing feed and speed to cut hardwood has been a challenge.
I will! And yeah it’s hard with the x carve because it’s so sensitive. It definitely does it’s job but hard to get a good range. It’s best to cut a shallower depth and use more speed then take notes
Excellent video! I was looking at the X-Carve, but the more I learn, the more I realize they aren't trying to improve or innovate for the "Maker"/Hobby/Home Business market. Better CNCs are hitting the market while Inventables rides on an old success into the ground. Must be taking a page from how Apple does business. Liked and Subbed!
Onefinity rocks ! I have had my first cnc (onefinity) only for a week or so and i love it. And now that i see the price of the X carve pro WOW WTH made me love my onefinity even more Lol X carve 10,000$ for 48x24 inch?/ 2,000$ for 32x32inch easy call for most people.
If your never need more than maybe half an inch cut depth, would it make more sense to go laser? Seems a laser could give you higher resolution and less tear out, you just gotta deal with the burns, a little acid wash should do it.
I think a half inch would require a pretty strong laser. Ive definitely seen people cut 1/4 no problem and in that case and your just doing engravings and simple cut outs id definitely go with a laser. I honestly don't know much about them. ive actually been thinking about getting one myself.
Looks like you have an upgraded controller with an LCD screen. What’s different between your new controller and the one that shipped with the initial batch?
The first machine I had was a beta machine. There was only a few made like that for testing. The internals are the same just outside is different I believe. The beta machine was also slightly smaller and was slightly less beefy.
Im a CNC Machinist. Best way to check accuracy is to mill a box shape then inspect it in X and the deviation is your error and same in Y. Have to also do it like 5 times to check repeatability.
For you 1/4 end mill on the x-carve, you are able to run FR100, Plunge of 20, at a depth of 0.1in per pass. what is the Dewalt router dial on? I have an upgraded x-carve and use good bits. I stay on 3 (router dial) and cant run your speeds and feeds.
hey! I would run the spindle at about 4-5 on the dewalt. If your bit is hot/warm after cutting your RPMs are too high and lower it slightly. Also do some research on chip load. You want your sawdust coming off to be small chips not a bunch of tiny dust specs if that makes sense.
Would buy the Onefinity in a heartbeat but can't wait three months for it to be delivered. They're back-ordered until June as of now, with a disclaimer that it could be longer. I'm leaning toward Shapeoka instead of the X-carve only because of less flex and better rail sensors.
@@TwoMooseDesign Well, I ordered the Onefinity anyway looks like I might get it sometime in late June, but I now have a used X-carve to play with, too, because my brother is letting me use his until then. Relatives are helpful sometimes, I guess. If everything works out, I might be able to add upgrades, like a laser attachment, by the time it arrives.
ohhh thats exciting! I'd say 48 deep would be a bare minimum, then for length it depends what you want to do with the controller if you just want the machine on top 50x50” would be plenty, if you want the controller next to it 50x60” would be ideal. I used a 3/4” piece of mdf and put a 2x4 frame around it pretty much getting me to 52x52”. The table the machine is in in the video is 50x50” the beta machine was slightly smaller than the production model. When I sell the x carve the production machine will go on the x carve table which I made bigger for this machine.
:55 I’m not going to tell you which machine to buy…. 14:58 “personally if I was gonna drop $2500 I would go with the Onefinity” LMAO Nice review and thanks for making a recommendation , although without it, I would conclude the same from an excellent “unbiased” ;-) review. I’m gonna get one. Assembly, design, speed ….. how could you not ….Onefinity bound
Just curious where you set the dial on that makita for the onefinity? And do you leave it there or change it with different bits. All the router bits I have seem to say max RPM of 18,000
Hey! I change the router speed for every bit. For example I run v bits and large diameter bits at a lower speed and I run end mills at a higher speed. I’ve never ran my router on the highest setting.
I personally haven’t milled aluminum with it. I’ve seen others in the facebook onefinity group do it though. Myerswoodshop might have a video milling aluminum 🤔
@@arthurwurtz4591 rigidity of the hobbyist machines would most likely be the issue, 1/2” shanks would be fine but 1/2” end mills would probably cause issues, a lot of them recommended being run faster than the machine can move. So in theory it would work but it’s asking a lot of a hobbyist machine
I thought you had a list of the onefinity options setup? I don't see it in the description. Can you post a list of the options you used on the onefinity? I would really appreciate it. You are making it hard for me not to purchase a onefinity cnc-mill.
Great comparison of the 2 cnc’s IMO the design of the onefinity is better. Would definitely want at least a 1.5hp spindle on it, 3hp even better. The only downside for me is it’s size, it would take up too much space in my shop. Would like for them to come out with a 2x2 size.
i believe they are making a bigger spindle mount now. and for size both machines have smaller models im not sure the exact sizes though. and thanks for checking out the video!
Hello where else can I purchase the onefimity other then on their sites? It’s always backordered. Is there a store or another website that carries them? Iam in the US.
There isn’t anywhere else. It’s a new company that launched during the pandemic so I’m sure it’s been tough. If you follow the onefinity facebook pages people occasionally give up their slot in line.
Can the OF start, stop then resume if I needed to carve on a larger piece of wood? I'm wanting to start engraving headboards so I'll need to be able to carve larger pieces of wood.
Good point! I personally haven’t had issues with either machine so I didn’t have much to go off of. People seem very happy with the onefinity support. I personally don’t follow any x carve forums
It took 2 hrs to assemble The "Longmill CNC" unit a it was demonstraed moving around with an average sizedgentleman standing on the "y" across the beam during motion. Check it out. Thanks for your review. - - - GR
You mentioned the 3-Axis Touch Probe as a must have accessory. Can you explain what that is used for and why it’s a must? Obviously I’m a 1st timer shopping 🙂
It makes the carve set up process easier. It tells the Cnc where to start cutting. If you don’t have one your essentially “eye balling” it. With the probe, you plug it in and the machine figures it out on its own vs. you manually setting the zero of where the machine will start if that makes sense 😬
thanks for a great video. i've got multiple cnc 's as well. and everyone ask the same. i've found that wood, and bits affect my cut speed more than anything else, going from machine to machine. I do have the air cooled 220 spindle on my onefinity and really like that. I would like to see some tips on stepover and depth of cut to go with feeds and speeds. Also maybe a bit video, on bits you like and what you get good cuts with vs bit life.
@@TwoMooseDesign Could be the brand. I have Stick Fast from Woodcraft, not satisfied with it.. It's like water, and super brittle. Bought it to coat pens and cracks up even on Stabilized wood. I only use it to bond thin crack as it soaks right in. Ready to toss the whole bottle out. 😆
@@TwoMooseDesign I stay away from accelerate when bond is required, and it definitely makes the Stick Fast thin crack even more so I don't use it there as well. Bad batch or just a bad brand. The thin I had from PSI never had cracking issues, even with accelerant. I'll try tight bond next.
@@chadvoller yeah I agree I rarely use accelerator, and yeah! Worth a shot I haven’t had issues so I haven’t switched. Star bond isn’t bad either I use their black ca glue
Thank you for the great video. Very informative. I enjoy making cutting boards and I have been using a homemade sled to even them out. I have been considering a CNC since I also get requests for different inlays that I have been unable to do so far. Both look like they would be a huge improvement over what I do now 😆 Liked and subscribed!
Have you ever done a video on "Spindles?" I'm about to order a Onefinity, but I'm still on the fence about the spindle. Do I just go with the Makita/DeWalt or do I spend a little and get a spindle?
I personally haven’t used a spindle before. You get more control over rpms and a little more torque I believe. If it’s in the budget I’d probably go with a spindle but a router will do just fine for 98% of people 🤷🏼♂️
Never used any of these machines but the ball screws and X axis rigidity on the Onefinity are by far more important that any other options you could get with the X carve. Belts on a cnc machine is a nonsense to me.
@@TwoMooseDesign For half the price you could also built a PrintNC (not MPCNC!) with amazing performance and incredible rigidity. Definitely more work as you need to source everything so not for everyone, but great choice for those not in the rush who wants best bang for the buck. Check it out!
I have a small shop and am just a hobbyist, I won't need the Onefinity set up all the time, and I can't afford to have a 4x4' surface in my shop that can only be used for the CNC. As a separate need in my shop, I need to make an assembly table/outfeed table for my shop. Is the following feasible? - in that work surface, embed some threaded inserts, t-track, etc., that the Onefinity can be installed into when needed, and then just un-installed when not? Would the re-setup be really difficult, or do you think with the inserts in place, and maybe some other blocks tacked down to trap the feet of the rails, it would be easy enough to reinstall?
I think it would still be a huge pain to re set it up each time. I definitely think it’s possible. I’ve seen others make tables that flip up vertical to save space rather than re set up the machine each use. Check out the onefinity page on facebook or the forums. People have made some cool space saving designs. They also make smaller machines
@@TwoMooseDesign I couldn't see going all the way down to just a 16x16 work surface for only a ~10% reduction in price. I wish it was either way cheaper (which I understand why it's not, almost everything is identical, it's literally just a few tubes that are shorter), or maybe like a 24x24 work surface. As is, I felt the bigger one was the right choice, despite the dilemma it puts me in. I'll check out some of those designs, thanks.
Great video, thank you. I have been looking at the onefinity for a while and wish I held out for that one instead of my other Canadian made cnc. Which is good but some of the same problems as the Xcarve.
Hi, great video. I'm brand new to woodworking. I'm making a project for people where I'm using my jigsaw to cut it out. I think the cnc will give me more opportunity to expand my options for people. The problem is I have no idea what to order. This is all pretty overwhelming. I have limited space so I am looking at the folding table or wall mount system. Can you do a video on where to begin? I don't know what is necessary and what is not. I think I'm just going to order everything from Onefinity when I decide. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Absolutely. and the onefinity is a great machine to start with as it gives you a ton of room to grow. the only reason to upgrade would be needing more cutting area!
Now listen here... that was entirely too clean, informative and well prepared for a RUclips vid. Not once did I feel I was wasting my time. Really high production value, you earned my follow and like, as well as probably sold me on the Onefinity. (Considering doing a vertical wall mount!) Keep it up.
oh wow thanks! i appreciate it. youll love having a cnc!
I have been in the wood construction industry for 40 years and purchased a Onefinity a year ago, running V-Carve Pro. I am computer literate but have never had any dealing with CNC. I spent a month learning the software in my spare time and the machine was easy enough to not require much time in learning the operations. This machine has made such a change in my shop, the options are unlimited and left to your imagination from that point forward. I am in the process of funding the purchase of 2 more machines to ad to my shop. I know they have a 4X8 system that is my plan as well. Thank You Onefinity and V-Carve Pro.
Wow! That’s amazing! Glad you had great success! Hope 2022 is even better for you
I've been binge watching a bunch of videos because I've been looking at getting the Onefinity cnc and you guys have the most helpful videos! Thank you!
Thanks I appreciate it 🙏🏼
Can you find one for $2500?
This is the best video I've seen about comparisons between two machines, as well as giving such specific info on the pros and cons of both machines. I'm still two months away from buying mine, and I'm leaning towards the x-carve with the upgrade kit recently offered. A primary reason is their 3 year subscription to Easel. Thank you for producing such a good video! Mike
Nice! I’ll have to check out there upgrades. I’m sure you’ll love it
I’m patiently waiting for my onefinity to come in the mail. Super pumped!
The wait time is brutal!!! 😆 you’ll love it 🙌🏼
Best acuracy test I have seen was the operator made a 2 meter ruler with mm on one side and inch on the other and then put it next to steel rulers and it was off so he went into the software Mach 3 and measured the over all length vs what he was trying to achieve and the second attempt was dead on. he did it in both the x and the y axis. It was impressive.
Cant wait. Reminder has been set.
Thanks! I appreciate it 😁
Killer breakdown. I think this video makes the choice clear and simple. Great job.
Thanks! 😁
Awesome video! I just bought the Onefinity and know ZERO about CNC. I’ve been watching all of your CNC videos.
Thanks! I appreciate it 😁 I’ll do some more onefinity videos soon! Holiday season gets busy with orders so I didn’t have much time to make videos lol
I don't have a machine just yet. Have thought about CNC woodwork a couple years ago. Thanks for the great review and hope I can do something soon.
Thanks so much for walking us through this, I’m about to make my first CNC purchase and this video along with your video on setting up the new one finite has been SUPER DUPER helpful. You’re very concise and clear with facts and tips. Keep these videos coming, I’d love to see more videos on feed rates and any info one the onefinity CNC….its actually in my shopping cart right now and I’m about to press confirm!
I have a video coming out soon on beginner bits and how to run them 🙌🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign oh awesome. I know this is going to be a big learning curve so the content is much appreciated!
The cut path direction can sometimes stop all chatter. work against the spin of the bit instead of with it.
Not going to tell us what machine to buy or not buy...but you did! In multiple ways! Made my decision SO easy and for that I thank you!
😆😆 I tried to make it neutral in the test but it was tough lol I wish they would of made a few upgrades to the original x carve 🤷🏼♂️
Great Review ! I had already done a bunch of research when I found this. It was still exceptionally helpful!
Thanks! we appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Disclaimer: I like your videos. There are many factors that contribute to chatter from feed/speed rates to condition of end mills, from carriage positioning mechanism(belts, lead screws, rack and pinion, etc to overall machine set up(maintaining bolt torque, parallelism, etc.. independent of all of that is fixturing. I have a CNC Mill and have learned that fixturing is among the most important elements of obtaining a quality finish. While CA glue and masking tape is quick and easy, and may seem to take a significant amount of force to remove, it is NOT a direct replacement for mechanical fixturing. One can spend more time using mechanical fixturing at the front end and potentially less time on the back end sanding out the chatter.
Side note - seeing your table move around (4:53) is EXACTLY what you don't want. The motion/energy created by the servo motors is intended to move only that XY axis, if it is moving the table, you are losing resolution. You might say you were only quickly jogging the machine around the table but that doesn't matter, you WILL lose resolution.
Great comparison! Thanks for sharing, Jef!
Thanks for checking it out Bruce! I appreciate it
awesome and realistic comparison buddy thanks for taking your time to make this video.much appreciated.
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to watch it 😁
Awesome video man. Thank you for the in-depth details on the basics.
Thanks!
A Onefinity feeds and speeds video would be great! Maybe include a range of feeds/speeds you have found to work with the Onefinity and various common bits? Either way, great video comparison.
I’ll definitely do that!
Yes please!!!
@@mattguzman73 😁😁👊🏼👊🏼
Awesome comparison/info video. All you're videos are really good and I'd already made my mind up about getting the Onefinity as soon as I saw your first video and it's construction. Seeing you're feeds and speeds for the Onefinity would be like another Xmas gift!!
PS; I've been running my employers ShopSabre 48 Pro ATC since he first purchased it November 2019 and it uses ball screws for all 3 axis. We grease and lube the machine at the end of 20 hours machine run time without fail. I test the machine's x & Y axis with a machinist's dial indicator once a month and it's still +/- .001 after 1 year. I do use Vectric Aspire and Solidworks/CamWorks to generate tool paths (Solidworks is much easier to actually see what your creating than Aspire for me at least and what I've spent years learning/using as a CNC machinist.
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to watch them! I’ll definitely do a few bit/ design videos soon👌🏼
Wow the Onefinity is the one. I don't know much about CNC's but one only needs to look at the construction. I first looked at Bobs CNC.....what! made out of wood...are you kidding. Then I thought the X carve was the one because of the construction......but now....I see the Onefinity....this is the design of the future...rock sturdy heavy duty, video screen, game style controller. This is the one to watch. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks! I don’t know much about bobs? I believe it’s far more affordable but I feel onefinity and shapeoko have the best machines at this price
Wow, great info~! I've been tossing around the idea of adding a CNC to my shop and was leaning toward the X-Carve. Seeing your video, it basically seems to be a no-brainer to lean the other way toward the Onefinity product. It appears the only decision I'm left with is still whether to add a CNC to my array of tools. Thanks much~!
I looove having a Cnc in the shop! It also allows us to customize items for our customers 🙌🏼
Great video! You may have changed my mind on what CNC to get as I don't have one yet.
No matter what machine you go with having a Cnc is a great addition to any shop/garage 👌🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign True. But, you would need to spend close to $1,100 to make the X-Carve as stiff as the Onefinity. I also notice Onefinity is on sale for $1,900 so... hmm. ;-)
@@BusyDadsWorkshop very true! I wish they upgraded it a little but oh well 🤷🏼♂️ lol
Great video man. Not sure if there is a sponsorship here (didn't here a disclaimer) but seems legit.
Thanks for sharing!!
Onefinity sent me the machine a while ago and has never paid me a dollar nor asked me to make any RUclips videos on the machine. I was a beta tester befor the machine came out and in return for testing the machine I got a production machine when it was available to the general public. I did pay full price for the x carve.
@@TwoMooseDesign Many thanks for your response. Your videos are awesome and I enjoy them because you got me interested in buying one. I'm now a new fan of yours from Mexico
@@cesara7478 thanks! I appreciate you following along 👊🏼😁
to help with the chatter you can try milling the other direction. The X carve was climb milling which make chatter worse. might help with cleaner cuts. The onefinity rigidity is the clear winner tho. Thanks for the break down!
thanks for the tip!
Seeing the comparison makes it an easy choice for me, it'll be a Onefinity later this year. Really appreciate you taking the time to show the comparison of the 2 CNCs.
Appreciate you watching 🙌🏼
Can you still get the Onefinity for $2500? I can't find it for that price. The X Carve has gotten cheaper down to $2200 but I can't find the Onefinity for less than $4000.
The elite starts at $3900+, you need to look at the onefinity woodworker x-50 for $2400+
@@timmartin6748 Yeah, I found it and ordered the X-35 for $2400. The X-50 I believe is the $3900 one. But if you go to their site you can't easily find the X-35, at least I couldn't. I did find it from a Google search. Thanks!
The deciding factor between X-Carve, Shapeko, and Onefinity for me is the ease of set-up and that includes the durability of rails vs belts. The extra couple hundred in price is worth the 'idiot-proof' factor. Being disabled it can be difficult to move around little screws and guidewheels while fighting to tighten the belts. Seeing a RUclipsr actually stand on his machine makes me think that the OneFinity is the most durable starter I can get into.
The shapeoko looks nicer than the x carve id like to play with one of those but I don’t want to buy one 😆
@@TwoMooseDesign i like my shapeoko 3 ( with hdz upgrade) but if i had the chance i would sell it in a heart beat and get a onefinity
Please?? As a new Onefinity user I would love to see more videos like this and especially on the Onefinity feeds & speeds
I’ll definitely make one 😁
Thanks for the video. It was really helpful. I just ordered the Onefinity Woodworker.
Thanks! And nice you’ll love it 🙌🏼
Would love to see a video on speeds and feeds on the Onefinity. Waiting for mine which is expected to arrive in early March.
I’ll definitely make one! 👊🏼 you’ll love the machine
Hey guys! Great video thanks for sharing! Would you be interested in doing a video in the future about the software you use and how to design/ drawing something from scratch ready for the Onefinity?
Absolutely! We plan on doing one within the next few videos 🙌🏼 thanks for watching 😁😁
10:01 you could use polymorph plastic on the router knob. Since the know has a texture if done carefully it could be removable. And click back in to place
Awesome video :) I was just about to order a different CNC... and ran across your video and a few others. I just ordered mine :) lol sadly it will summer before it comes in!!! :(
Thanks! The wait is the worst!
Can you buy Easel to run with the Onefinity? I am not seeing where to do this since it is included with the X-carve.
It’s a free. You can buy a subscription for more features. You just export the code as other then upload it to the onefinity
Thank you, I see the subscription cost now. I am still on the fence since it is an investment either way between the two. It seems the Onefinity has more useable workspace, has more stability, is more time-efficient, has less assembly and maintenance, but doesn't have particular accessories that the X-carve has with respect to dust, waste-board, and a router. Before this video, I had no idea the Onefinity existed, so I am second guessing my X-carve decision, which I have not made the purchase yet.
Wow. Ordering the Onefinity today would have an expected ship date in July 2021? That is INSANE!
@@thecrusader3152 yeah thats the biggest downside for sure. its a new company that launched when the pandemic started. They have quite the backorder list
Great video!!! so much information for all that take time to watch it.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant comparison, thanks. Onefinity looks awesome.
Thanks i appreciate you watching! I really like it 😁
Great job! Loved the video, looking forward to more.
Thanks!! 😁😁👊🏼
The machines ability to be mounted (and function properly) vertically is a "Deal-Maker" for any small workshop. That's the reason I bought mine...whoo-hoo!
I personally havent tried that but ive seen alot of others do it in the onefinity facebook group!
Thank you for the detailed comparison !! You both do great work.
Awesome vid. You definitely helped me make up my mind on which one to buy!
we love ours! The only downside is the wait! lol
@@TwoMooseDesign I see the back order may take a while still worth it!
@@toledobendadventures5747 yeah unfortunately they started a company at a crappy time lol
Thanks for the video! Trying to break into getting a CNC - need to check out Onefinity
Thanks for watching! I personally think it’s the best one at that price level 🤷🏼♂️ getting over $4000 is a completely different realm of CNCs. For me and what I do the onefinity is perfect. I really hope they come out with a 4x4 model for sheet goods that would be amazing
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if you used fusion u could set your feed optimisation, the gcode is going into corners too quickly, also you could set your outside contour cut .5mm below your model bottom to get a clean cut, no sanding afterwards
Thanks for the tips 👊🏼
I would love to hear more about the bits you use and the feeds and speeds. Also, how you calculate value/time on the CNC. I also have the x carve 1000. Love it but balancing feed and speed to cut hardwood has been a challenge.
I will! And yeah it’s hard with the x carve because it’s so sensitive. It definitely does it’s job but hard to get a good range. It’s best to cut a shallower depth and use more speed then take notes
Excellent video! I was looking at the X-Carve, but the more I learn, the more I realize they aren't trying to improve or innovate for the "Maker"/Hobby/Home Business market. Better CNCs are hitting the market while Inventables rides on an old success into the ground. Must be taking a page from how Apple does business. Liked and Subbed!
Thanks I appreciate it! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
If i remember correctly they based it on the shapeoko 2.
Onefinity rocks ! I have had my first cnc (onefinity) only for a week or so and i love it. And now that i see the price of the X carve pro WOW WTH made me love my onefinity even more Lol X carve 10,000$ for 48x24 inch?/ 2,000$ for 32x32inch easy call for most people.
Yeah....I wish they made some upgrades to the old x carve but oh well 🤷🏼♂️
I would be very interested in a video showing your feeds and speeds for different projects.
With the onefintiy??
Nice, very interested in the Onefinity! Thank you
Its a great machine! I really like it
Yes, thank you for sharing this. Please make a video on feeds and speeds for Onefinity. Thanks again!
Thanks for taking the time to watch it! I definitely will 😁
What a great comparison. Either way I think it's an awesome machine to include in the workflow
Definitely agree. Most users probably wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference if they just cut/engrave simple things. 👌🏼
If your never need more than maybe half an inch cut depth, would it make more sense to go laser? Seems a laser could give you higher resolution and less tear out, you just gotta deal with the burns, a little acid wash should do it.
I think a half inch would require a pretty strong laser. Ive definitely seen people cut 1/4 no problem and in that case and your just doing engravings and simple cut outs id definitely go with a laser. I honestly don't know much about them. ive actually been thinking about getting one myself.
Looks like you have an upgraded controller with an LCD screen. What’s different between your new controller and the one that shipped with the initial batch?
The first machine I had was a beta machine. There was only a few made like that for testing. The internals are the same just outside is different I believe. The beta machine was also slightly smaller and was slightly less beefy.
Im a CNC Machinist. Best way to check accuracy is to mill a box shape then inspect it in X and the deviation is your error and same in Y. Have to also do it like 5 times to check repeatability.
Thanks for the tip
For you 1/4 end mill on the x-carve, you are able to run FR100, Plunge of 20, at a depth of 0.1in per pass. what is the Dewalt router dial on? I have an upgraded x-carve and use good bits. I stay on 3 (router dial) and cant run your speeds and feeds.
hey! I would run the spindle at about 4-5 on the dewalt. If your bit is hot/warm after cutting your RPMs are too high and lower it slightly. Also do some research on chip load. You want your sawdust coming off to be small chips not a bunch of tiny dust specs if that makes sense.
Hi. You mentioned that the bearings and stuff are easy to fix. Is there a way for users to access the balls for replacing? Thanks.
I asked onefinity and they offer replacements if something where to go bad. They are sealed so dust shouldn’t make them go bad anytime soon.
Would buy the Onefinity in a heartbeat but can't wait three months for it to be delivered. They're back-ordered until June as of now, with a disclaimer that it could be longer. I'm leaning toward Shapeoka instead of the X-carve only because of less flex and better rail sensors.
Yeah the wait sucks. Unfortunately they launched a company in the midst of a pandemic 🤷🏼♂️ shapeoko appears to be a solid machine too
@@TwoMooseDesign Well, I ordered the Onefinity anyway looks like I might get it sometime in late June, but I now have a used X-carve to play with, too, because my brother is letting me use his until then. Relatives are helpful sometimes, I guess. If everything works out, I might be able to add upgrades, like a laser attachment, by the time it arrives.
@@randolphscudder2372 nice! That’s awesome
i have been patiently waiting for this
Thanks! i appreciate it 😁
can the one infinity also help cut and carve acrylic boards as well ?
Yes
At 1:30 I rewound it a couple times because I thought you spent 82 hundred dollars ($8,200) on your router! 😂 Finally realized what you meant.
😆 I wish I had an $8200 cnc! Lol
So glad I’m not the only one. Literally googled “most expensive makita router” found nothing. Then it dawned on me “ oooh! $80 too a $100 dollars”
@@jayhalloween 😆😆 I’ll have to slow down my talking! Lol
How do you think the new upgrade kit for xcarve would improve the speed and chattering?
I haven’t looked at their products in a while. I’m sure anything would help! But I’m sure the extras are quite expensive 🤷🏼♂️
my machine arrives late Feb. time to make a table, any info on your build dimensions would be appreciated. looks simple and clean.
ohhh thats exciting! I'd say 48 deep would be a bare minimum, then for length it depends what you want to do with the controller if you just want the machine on top 50x50” would be plenty, if you want the controller next to it 50x60” would be ideal. I used a 3/4” piece of mdf and put a 2x4 frame around it pretty much getting me to 52x52”. The table the machine is in in the video is 50x50” the beta machine was slightly smaller than the production model. When I sell the x carve the production machine will go on the x carve table which I made bigger for this machine.
Can you do a video on how you use easel to create the trays...I'm more interested in how you set the design up for bit changes.
Absolutely! That will be one fo my next few videos actually 👌🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks! I really appreciate it because You do great videos!
@@creativelasercuts7198 thanks! Appreciate you following along 👊🏼
:55 I’m not going to tell you which machine to buy…. 14:58 “personally if I was gonna drop $2500 I would go with the Onefinity” LMAO Nice review and thanks for making a recommendation , although without it, I would conclude the same from an excellent “unbiased” ;-) review. I’m gonna get one. Assembly, design, speed ….. how could you not ….Onefinity bound
Sold! Now I just need to wait 8 - 12 weeks for my cnc to come in :( Thanks, nice video.
Just curious where you set the dial on that makita for the onefinity? And do you leave it there or change it with different bits.
All the router bits I have seem to say max RPM of 18,000
Hey! I change the router speed for every bit. For example I run v bits and large diameter bits at a lower speed and I run end mills at a higher speed. I’ve never ran my router on the highest setting.
@@TwoMooseDesign
Good to know, thanks for the reply. Very nice set up 👍🏻
Such a great video, thanks so much!
Thank you!!
Hi, could you list some pros and cons of openbuilds compared to onfinity and xcarve ?
You can run vectric on a mac ifyou use parallels program. I use it all the time.
Make as many onefinity videos as you can! Maybe a video with steps from design, software and cutting??
Absolutely! I was going to do like an in-depth video of making like a tray and putting a design in the bottom
1:30 did I hear that right? The router for the One finity is $8,200.00?
🤦🏼♂️ $80-$100
How does the Onefinity do in cutting aluminum?
I personally haven’t milled aluminum with it. I’ve seen others in the facebook onefinity group do it though. Myerswoodshop might have a video milling aluminum 🤔
Wouldn't it be possible to use a half inch router if a guy had the means to make a custom mounting bracket?
You absolutely could, I don’t think structurally either machine could match up to the specs needed to run most 1/2” end mills but you could yes.
@Two Moose Design you mean it couldn't do more with a half inch router than it can with the quarter inch router?
@@arthurwurtz4591 rigidity of the hobbyist machines would most likely be the issue, 1/2” shanks would be fine but 1/2” end mills would probably cause issues, a lot of them recommended being run faster than the machine can move. So in theory it would work but it’s asking a lot of a hobbyist machine
I have a lot of experience using a 3D printer and have used Autodesk Fusion. Could you use the code from this program to use the Onefinity.
yes fusion works with Onefinity. i personally dont use it but i see others in the facebook group using fusion
@@TwoMooseDesign Thank you thank make my decision easier. Didn't like having to pay to use another program on a subscription.
@@toddmatthews3326 nope! you just export the code and upload it to the onefinity you could even use a jump drive
Good job, thanks for your help!
Thanks for watching!
I thought you had a list of the onefinity options setup? I don't see it in the description. Can you post a list of the options you used on the onefinity? I would really appreciate it. You are making it hard for me not to purchase a onefinity cnc-mill.
Great comparison of the 2 cnc’s IMO the design of the onefinity is better. Would definitely want at least a 1.5hp spindle on it, 3hp even better. The only downside for me is it’s size, it would take up too much space in my shop. Would like for them to come out with a 2x2 size.
i believe they are making a bigger spindle mount now. and for size both machines have smaller models im not sure the exact sizes though. and thanks for checking out the video!
Hello where else can I purchase the onefimity other then on their sites? It’s always backordered. Is there a store or another website that carries them? Iam in the US.
There isn’t anywhere else. It’s a new company that launched during the pandemic so I’m sure it’s been tough. If you follow the onefinity facebook pages people occasionally give up their slot in line.
Watching this video convinced me to buy onefimity do you think I should wait or should I buy X carve in your opinion?
Do you think I can use it for making a skateboard mold?
i honestly have no idea 🤷♂️
Can the OF start, stop then resume if I needed to carve on a larger piece of wood? I'm wanting to start engraving headboards so I'll need to be able to carve larger pieces of wood.
Yes it’s called tiling. Most programming software has that feature. Kind of a pain to line everything up but definitely possible
Comparing customer support, especially for people who are new to CNC and woodworking, should be fundamental.
Good point! I personally haven’t had issues with either machine so I didn’t have much to go off of. People seem very happy with the onefinity support. I personally don’t follow any x carve forums
Thanks for your video, I love the one infinity, it's a shame I can't buy it because shipping from Colombia would be very expensive.
It took 2 hrs to assemble The "Longmill CNC" unit a it was demonstraed moving around with an average sizedgentleman standing on the "y" across the beam during motion. Check it out. Thanks for your review. - - - GR
oh nice! im not familiar with that one ill have to check it out
You mentioned the 3-Axis Touch Probe as a must have accessory. Can you explain what that is used for and why it’s a must? Obviously I’m a 1st timer shopping 🙂
It makes the carve set up process easier. It tells the Cnc where to start cutting. If you don’t have one your essentially “eye balling” it. With the probe, you plug it in and the machine figures it out on its own vs. you manually setting the zero of where the machine will start if that makes sense 😬
thanks for a great video. i've got multiple cnc 's as well. and everyone ask the same. i've found that wood, and bits affect my cut speed more than anything else, going from machine to machine. I do have the air cooled 220 spindle on my onefinity and really like that. I would like to see some tips on stepover and depth of cut to go with feeds and speeds. Also maybe a bit video, on bits you like and what you get good cuts with vs bit life.
I agree. And thanks for the input and checking out the video! I definitely plan on doing a few videos like that.
Personally... I'd like every video on the Onefinity you can throw at me :) Thanks!
😆 note taken! 😁🤤
With the CA glue, viscosity can matter. Thin and spreads very easily and may not provide a good bond unless you apply it to both sides.
I use thin as well and never had an issue. Medium-gel is definitely best though
@@TwoMooseDesign Could be the brand. I have Stick Fast from Woodcraft, not satisfied with it.. It's like water, and super brittle. Bought it to coat pens and cracks up even on Stabilized wood. I only use it to bond thin crack as it soaks right in. Ready to toss the whole bottle out. 😆
@@chadvoller oh weird yeah I’m not sure I’ve only ever used titebond lol do you use the accelerator? That stuff definitely makes it more brittle
@@TwoMooseDesign I stay away from accelerate when bond is required, and it definitely makes the Stick Fast thin crack even more so I don't use it there as well. Bad batch or just a bad brand. The thin I had from PSI never had cracking issues, even with accelerant. I'll try tight bond next.
@@chadvoller yeah I agree I rarely use accelerator, and yeah! Worth a shot I haven’t had issues so I haven’t switched. Star bond isn’t bad either I use their black ca glue
The chatter could possibly be reduced by changing the direction of the milling. Climb milling vs conventional milling.
EXCELLENT, Excellent Video!
Super helpful! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching! 🙌🏼
Thank you for the great video. Very informative. I enjoy making cutting boards and I have been using a homemade sled to even them out. I have been considering a CNC since I also get requests for different inlays that I have been unable to do so far. Both look like they would be a huge improvement over what I do now 😆 Liked and subscribed!
Have you ever done a video on "Spindles?" I'm about to order a Onefinity, but I'm still on the fence about the spindle. Do I just go with the Makita/DeWalt or do I spend a little and get a spindle?
I personally haven’t used a spindle before. You get more control over rpms and a little more torque I believe. If it’s in the budget I’d probably go with a spindle but a router will do just fine for 98% of people 🤷🏼♂️
A spindle is in a different class from a router...if you have the opportunity to get a good one, go for it...
Just get the spindle. You will end up getting one after a while anyway.
What material are the black parts made of?
Aluminum I believe
Never used any of these machines but the ball screws and X axis rigidity on the Onefinity are by far more important that any other options you could get with the X carve. Belts on a cnc machine is a nonsense to me.
Yeah....the constant maintenance of belts and wheels isn’t that fun
@@TwoMooseDesign For half the price you could also built a PrintNC (not MPCNC!) with amazing performance and incredible rigidity. Definitely more work as you need to source everything so not for everyone, but great choice for those not in the rush who wants best bang for the buck. Check it out!
Those round unsupported rails though. Too much money for that.
Great video, thx a lot. Would the infinity work as well for metall carving (monogram). Best regard
It can carve aluminum but if you plan to work with a lot of metal I would 100% go with a plasma Cnc it would be waaaay more efficient
Hi, new to your site. Where can I get more info on the CNC that you showed
Thanks Larry. I'm looking to get started in CNC
Hey! I don’t make or sell them. Check out onefinity on Instagram or Facebook. Or give their name a Google their site will come up
Thanks
Anybody know if these would be suitable to carve female molds for making composite wings for high performance RC gliders?
Hey! I know you can cut composite I just have never done it. I honestly know nothing about it I believe you just buy a special bit
I have a small shop and am just a hobbyist, I won't need the Onefinity set up all the time, and I can't afford to have a 4x4' surface in my shop that can only be used for the CNC. As a separate need in my shop, I need to make an assembly table/outfeed table for my shop. Is the following feasible? - in that work surface, embed some threaded inserts, t-track, etc., that the Onefinity can be installed into when needed, and then just un-installed when not? Would the re-setup be really difficult, or do you think with the inserts in place, and maybe some other blocks tacked down to trap the feet of the rails, it would be easy enough to reinstall?
I think it would still be a huge pain to re set it up each time. I definitely think it’s possible. I’ve seen others make tables that flip up vertical to save space rather than re set up the machine each use. Check out the onefinity page on facebook or the forums. People have made some cool space saving designs. They also make smaller machines
@@TwoMooseDesign I couldn't see going all the way down to just a 16x16 work surface for only a ~10% reduction in price. I wish it was either way cheaper (which I understand why it's not, almost everything is identical, it's literally just a few tubes that are shorter), or maybe like a 24x24 work surface. As is, I felt the bigger one was the right choice, despite the dilemma it puts me in.
I'll check out some of those designs, thanks.
@@tighecrovetti2844 yeah I’m not sure I have no idea how they price anything lol 🤷🏼♂️
Great video, thank you. I have been looking at the onefinity for a while and wish I held out for that one instead of my other Canadian made cnc. Which is good but some of the same problems as the Xcarve.
That’s okay! I’m sure it will get the job done just fine! Use it for a while and sell
It they hold their value pretty well 🤷🏼♂️
What other Canadian made if you don't mind me asking?
A few weeks ago, I bought a Longmill. I was wondering if you were talking about that one.
Really would like to see shapeoko pro vs onefinity
Me too! 🙌🏼
Hi, great video. I'm brand new to woodworking. I'm making a project for people where I'm using my jigsaw to cut it out. I think the cnc will give me more opportunity to expand my options for people. The problem is I have no idea what to order. This is all pretty overwhelming. I have limited space so I am looking at the folding table or wall mount system. Can you do a video on where to begin? I don't know what is necessary and what is not. I think I'm just going to order everything from Onefinity when I decide. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Absolutely. and the onefinity is a great machine to start with as it gives you a ton of room to grow. the only reason to upgrade would be needing more cutting area!