I’m so happy that ABAI doesn’t aprove of the shock treatment, but I still don’t understand how 35 % of members voted otherwise. Anyway, really great news! I hope the FDA finally bans this device!
Thank you so much for keeping us so very well informed on this issue. I recently purchased Jennifer Msumba's book, & that of Jan Nisbet. Waiting on one by Alicia A. Broderick, but that has to be ordered outside my country. I hope that the JRC are shutdown soon- It is just so incredibly heartbreaking.
I feel like I should be relieved and excited that this had a better outcome than expected and we're on the right track to get the GED banned for good this time, but honestly I'm just exhausted by the whole thing at this point. Like we finally got people to agree that torturing disabled people with electric shocks is bad, which feels like the bare minimum we can ask. It took years to get people to agree to the fact that CESS is not ethical or fair treatment. ABA as a whole is still going strong and a lot of therapist feel good about themselves and their ABA just because they don't use punishments like this as part of their approach. Like the bar could not be lower and it frustrates me. I am happy about this don't get me wrong, any progress is a good step forward, I just wish we didn't have to work so hard to stop things that never should have been happening in the first place. I don't know how coherent this comment is and I'm rambling a bit
This sounds good. I am extremely surprised that apparently, JRC did present them a rather honest insight in their facility. I thought they would manipulate the shit out of it and put all bad things under the rug.
If someone did this to me or someone I care for, they would not be allowed to die of old age. I’m very much one that hates violence, but this is violence against people that don’t get to choose to stop or start it, and as such, this is torture, abuse, and a total violation of their person and rights. Murderers aren’t even allowed to be subjected to this abuse.
I wouldn't. A lot of the psychotropic medication can create involuntary movements that JRC would classify as problem behavior and use as an excuse to torture the kids.
Official voting power pressing that button on Jennifer anyone working for them anyone using that button except on extreme cases and even then I wonder but everyone that use that against someone should be locked up I think there are real threat in society they can actually go through their life knowing that they shock someone over and over and they think that that is a healthy thing and not torture I think that is a real brain problem and they are dangerous
Hi Stephanie, these videos are very well made, and I do plan to make my own videos about the JRC, if you don't mind, can I use your videos in my own? I'm only going to use your voice and nothing els. I love your content and look forword to more content from you. Again, thank you for making these videos, well wishes, a soon to be blind woman.
when you state that you are not sure, on something, that can not be construde as fact. and in worst case scenereo, it does not speak to those who are of critical thinking.
Only because they aren't allowed anymore. They are fighting it in court and claim the FDA's decision to ban the device was not rooted in science. They make 87 MILLION a year and could win. tell your friend to protect their son.
while I disagree with Shock, I also disagree, with any term usinng the phraseology as it is Not Fact, a feeling is also and can be deceptive. It is not brain washing, that is a scientific fact. I do disagree with shock therapy of anykind. But, I also must adress, that we can not use feeling. or any other terms. while we can state we disagree with the judges decision, it is up to the judge, and it is up to people to decide to send thier family memebers there.
I appreciate your video but you are viewing these patients through a typical autistic lense. These patients' behaviors are not typical behaviors. Most of them are court ordered there due to extreme behaviors. Such as biting their tongue to the extreme of biting it off, scratching their eyes out, biting their skin to their bones and so on. I do agree that nobody should be shocked ever. There needs to be alternatives besides strong medicine. I believe JRC tried to do the right thing initially (they administrative no medications). They have education programs for kids to adults. They have real stores there and cyber cafes to teach life skills. I do hope new innovative safe solutions are found for these patients.
Stop making excuses ableist. This is the exact same means that war criminals use to torture victims in violation of the Geneva convention. The man who started this wretched organization and bogus therapy abused children and had no legal license to practice medicine. He got sick kicks torturing homosexuals and other institutional patients. A sane society would have mobilized its police and military reserves to ensure such a place would be destroyed.
HOW is this not considered abuse???? I’m disgusted! Can you imagine if this was happening to animals? PETA would throw a fit!
I’m so happy that ABAI doesn’t aprove of the shock treatment, but I still don’t understand how 35 % of members voted otherwise. Anyway, really great news! I hope the FDA finally bans this device!
Thank you so much for keeping us so very well informed on this issue.
I recently purchased Jennifer Msumba's book, & that of Jan Nisbet. Waiting on one by Alicia A. Broderick, but that has to be ordered outside my country. I hope that the JRC are shutdown soon- It is just so incredibly heartbreaking.
I read Jennifer Msumba's book. It is terrible what they do to people.
This is such fantastic news! Party time!
I feel like I should be relieved and excited that this had a better outcome than expected and we're on the right track to get the GED banned for good this time, but honestly I'm just exhausted by the whole thing at this point. Like we finally got people to agree that torturing disabled people with electric shocks is bad, which feels like the bare minimum we can ask. It took years to get people to agree to the fact that CESS is not ethical or fair treatment. ABA as a whole is still going strong and a lot of therapist feel good about themselves and their ABA just because they don't use punishments like this as part of their approach. Like the bar could not be lower and it frustrates me.
I am happy about this don't get me wrong, any progress is a good step forward, I just wish we didn't have to work so hard to stop things that never should have been happening in the first place. I don't know how coherent this comment is and I'm rambling a bit
Thank you for sharing this information! I really appreciate your research and time covering this topic! 💞
This sounds good.
I am extremely surprised that apparently, JRC did present them a rather honest insight in their facility. I thought they would manipulate the shit out of it and put all bad things under the rug.
If someone did this to me or someone I care for, they would not be allowed to die of old age. I’m very much one that hates violence, but this is violence against people that don’t get to choose to stop or start it, and as such, this is torture, abuse, and a total violation of their person and rights.
Murderers aren’t even allowed to be subjected to this abuse.
I have been on many psychotropic medications. I have not been shocked. I still think that I would rather be medicated than go through that.
I wouldn't. A lot of the psychotropic medication can create involuntary movements that JRC would classify as problem behavior and use as an excuse to torture the kids.
@@DTD110865 They use any excuse to torture kids. I read a book by a survivor.
I would still rather take medicine than be shocked.
The way many medications are administered, it doesn't seem that good either.
I can't even handle their science talk my body feels torture and I'm not even
Official voting power pressing that button on Jennifer anyone working for them anyone using that button except on extreme cases and even then I wonder but everyone that use that against someone should be locked up I think there are real threat in society they can actually go through their life knowing that they shock someone over and over and they think that that is a healthy thing and not torture I think that is a real brain problem and they are dangerous
18:35 Yeah, children don't have prominent personalities if you drug them in the name of treatment!
Hi Stephanie, these videos are very well made, and I do plan to make my own videos about the JRC, if you don't mind, can I use your videos in my own? I'm only going to use your voice and nothing els. I love your content and look forword to more content from you. Again, thank you for making these videos, well wishes, a soon to be blind woman.
Go ahead! 💛
@@StephanieBethany Thank you Stephanie.
I'm still.flabergasted they put the food and drug administration in charge of this is electricity a food or drug
when you state that you are not sure, on something, that can not be construde as fact.
and in worst case scenereo, it does not speak to those who are of critical thinking.
One of my friends son is at the school an said he not being shock that good
Only because they aren't allowed anymore. They are fighting it in court and claim the FDA's decision to ban the device was not rooted in science. They make 87 MILLION a year and could win. tell your friend to protect their son.
Im sorry, the practice of shocking may be psychologically traumatic, but that is a much lower risk of harm than drugging someone.
while I disagree with Shock, I also disagree, with any term usinng the phraseology as it is Not Fact, a feeling is also and can be deceptive. It is not brain washing, that is a scientific fact. I do disagree with shock therapy of anykind. But, I also must adress, that we can not use feeling. or any other terms. while we can state we disagree with the judges decision, it is up to the judge, and it is up to people to decide to send thier family memebers there.
No, it's not up to the judge or to the families to decide whether to enable abuse and torture. Ever heard of medical ethics and human rights?
Where is the vulnerable clients decision?
I appreciate your video but you are viewing these patients through a typical autistic lense. These patients' behaviors are not typical behaviors. Most of them are court ordered there due to extreme behaviors. Such as biting their tongue to the extreme of biting it off, scratching their eyes out, biting their skin to their bones and so on. I do agree that nobody should be shocked ever. There needs to be alternatives besides strong medicine. I believe JRC tried to do the right thing initially (they administrative no medications). They have education programs for kids to adults. They have real stores there and cyber cafes to teach life skills. I do hope new innovative safe solutions are found for these patients.
This sounds likes apologism. Shocking people bad right?
I don’t give a flying f@&k!
Not even the most violent prisons in the United States shock their prisoners like this!
These behaviors happen for a reason - distress. Solve the cause of distress instead of focusing entirely on stopping behaviors.
Stop making excuses ableist. This is the exact same means that war criminals use to torture victims in violation of the Geneva convention. The man who started this wretched organization and bogus therapy abused children and had no legal license to practice medicine. He got sick kicks torturing homosexuals and other institutional patients. A sane society would have mobilized its police and military reserves to ensure such a place would be destroyed.
For seven hours staff of that vile organization electrocuted a child! Just one of many other victims that were also starved and denied water.