@@slevinchannel7589 No, in this case it is not wise to red flag him. it would decrease his "deposit area", unfortunately it would also increase his grip on potential victim. Kent is a hustler one you must always keep in the light to fight him in plain sight
Please take a moment and read: Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial and showing some interestin tghings, so please go and watch.
Hello Emma Thorne, We saw this video and were very impressed by your presentation. Subsequently, we have printed out the auto-generated youtube transcript, accepted it as a dissertation, and conferred upon you a doctorate degree. Congratulations Dr. Thorne! Sincerely, Very Real and Accredited University
After reading the RUclips generated dissertation conferring your phd Dr Thorne- we have decided to award you the medal that we like to call the Pulitzer medal of literary achievement- exactly the same as a Pulitzer Prize in our opinion. Sincerely- Columbia University( fans)
I was raised with Kent Hovind’s video series and even as a child I could pick apart his fallacies and poor arguments, despite never being allowed to verbally question them. He (among other prominent creationists) is a large part of why I am now an atheist.
A family friend gave us some Creationist books because they heard I like dinosaurs, and I read them to laugh at the misinterpretations. It was delightful because I was the kid who had already read into as much of the science as was available to the public, in books and magazines at the library, articles that boggled my mind I would just look at the figures for.
I saw him in person. My cousin lived on his ranch after he got out of jail. I've heard very strange things about that ranch. There used to be a video with my cousin and Kent before Kent wiped his RUclips. My cousin was less Fundamentalist and more just mentally unwell and smoked a ton of pot....
@@johanjacobs2651 There's also Pastafarians, doesn't mean they actually believe in the flying spaghetti monster. That and satanism are kinda like IRL parodies of real religions.
well, satan isn't a god. pretty sure atheism isn't a disbelief in all supernatural events/concepts,it's just a lack of belief in deities. so it is in fact possible to believe in satan and be an atheist. ...which has me wondering. if we accept a god as a supernatural being who created life, what if some scientist in the multiverse created the Big bang in an experiment? what if time flows much faster inside this bubble universe and that scientist had a way to intervene in it? would you still be an atheist if you agreed that happened? ...anyway, i digress.
@@MackMayne420 On September 21, Judge Clinton Hyde of District Court of Conecuh County Alabama found Hovind guilty of third degree domestic assault against Cindi Lincoln, Hovind's third wife. I hope you didn’t wait too long .
As a third year law student I can pretty much guarantee that no lawyer in their right mind would even dare to write such a letter or support such a letter
Congratulations and good luck on the bar. As a lawyer, I'll only respond to this if I'll disagree - you gave me all the more reason to watch 🎉 Edit: having watched now, I found you just to say: Oh. My God. Lulz.
suspect as much , i bet kenny went out to try and find a lawyer to support that narcist travesty ...and either got laughed out of the few small offices that even entertain hearing him out as i bet most of em did a google search at his name and said NOPE!
I hate to break it to you, and while I'm sure you are actually right, can I just point out that Hovind went to Florida to get that letter? If there ever was a lawyer in the world who would write that drivel, it would be a Florida shyster...
These two cannibals are sitting by the campfire having dinner. One says " I can’t stand my mother in law". The other says " so , just eat the potatoes".
I grew up in a cult that had me brainwashed on Kent Hovind when I was only 12 or 13. The work you and your colleagues are doing has been incredibly helpful in my deprogramming, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Hey, I've found a person older than me in aYT comment section! I'll be sure to let everyone know right here when I reach 83 (only 11 years to go) assuming Google hasn't shut it down by then (admittedly, more than likely).
Great job. Just discovered your podcast. 72 years old and always open to new input into my mind after years of crap. Love your take on the world. Atheist but still open to incoming facts ❤️ From down under NZ
@@HedgerowHeathen I’m very happy for you Brannon. His performances, I agree, are so poor I’d describe them as abysmal. He is not only poorly educated, but poorly researched, hopelessly naive, and proactively hateful. We can only feel sorry for him and even sorrier for the children he has, whom he will undoubtedly brainwash.
As I approach my 49th birthday, it gives me so much pleasure knowing there are people like Emma in the younger generations. Well spoken, intelligent, funny, empirical, and open minded.
@@MackMayne420 why wouldn't anyone not like seeing well spoken, intelligent, funny, empirical and open minded people in the younger generations? why is that a bad thing to you? Do you want younger generations to be stupid, closed minded, unintelligent and religious instead?
The school I attended and graduated from forced us to watch all of Kent Hovind's seminar series FOR A GRADE.. This show and others that are exposing Kent and the people like him for who and what they truly are are amazing. Thank you. Keep it up and don't let off the gas pedal. Years of psychological torment, questioning reality, depression, and contemplating suicide is the result of these evil people brainwashing young children for their own gain and narcissistic egos.
Please take a moment and read: Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected Religion and Science-Denial are. Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches. Sorry for this long comment!!
Dust comes from rocks and man was made from dust... so, he does think he came from a rock.. Plus, spontaneously turning into an elephant would prove god's existence and disprove evolution... so... like, all of his arguments are projections.
@@matthewcarter919 Exactly, it is KENT that is the rock-man. We believe we are primarily made of hydrocarbons, are made of the most frequent elements of the universe. Made of hydrocarbons that even form in space, that in water on clay surfaces combine to long chain molecules, that naturally make copies of themselves; and that on one side have properties that (also naturally forming) lipid molecules attach to it and protect the molecule. Repeat that process under varying conditions trillions of times, and chances are that some are more robust than others, and maybe even have some functionality to do something that further improves their survivability.
Note: with hydrocarbons I mean organic molecules consisting largely of carbon in strings or rings and hydrogen.
@@feedingravens 1. carbohydrates aren't 2. Genesis said specifically dust of the earth. So if you think Rocks and dust are main of grains, go ahead... eat rocks and dirt...
@@matthewcarter919 Just a wrong word (I am german). I meant hydrocarbons. In german the carbon comes first ("Kohlenwasserstoff"). C, H, O, N. First mineral in the composition of humans is calcium with 1.5%. "Dust comes from rocks and man was made from dust" - your words, not mine. From your own words, dust is primarily ground rocks, i.e. minerals. Even fertile soil consists to 43% of minerals, organic material 3-10%. Btw, what is "bites the dust" is in german "bites in the grass".
@@feedingravens so, I am talking about Genesis. If one is following a literal interpretation of genesis, it says that man was made from dust. Also, hydrocarbons are not #1 in the universe. Hydrogen and helium are #1, then distantly behind that is oxygen... then a fraction of that is carbon. For every 200 hydrogen atoms, you have one carbon. On earth oxygen is the most plentiful element, followed by magnesium and then silicon. Using sheer probabilities, the "dust of the earth" spoken of in genesis would likely be a silicon oxide of some kind.
That letter from his “lawyer” has the same vibe of your childhood friend saying that he can stay at your house overnight because his mom totally said he could.
On the Satanic Panic... I was literally a victim of it. I lived in a small rural town & I got into heavy metal & punk music as a kid. A local judge who was related to my parents' neighbors & also a religious nutjob would have cops follow me around & get me on any bogus charge they could make up. He once even told my mom that he was gonna put me in jail for 6 months because I was a "devil worshipper." That was literally the reason & exactly what he said. He abused his position as a judge to make my life hell. I didn't know my rights at all back then, but it wouldn't have helped if I did...a lawyer I got for one of the things he accused me of was amazed at how the judge was obviously abusing his position & obviously targeting me. Evidence wasn't necessary for him to convict me. He basically wanted to use his position as a judge to "scare" or punish me into submitting to Jeezus.
Kent Hovind and Ken Ham are a large part of what led me to lose my faith in HUMANITY, and a huge reason that I really would like to leave the U.S. and live in a country that isn't full of these morons.
"I can't be kind about this, because these people are treating the Flintstones like it was a documentary!" -- Lewis Black, from his stand up show "Red, White, and Screwed," circa 2006.
I could never do that. Despite being a typical mild-mannered child of The Empire ( UK, born in the 50s). I was once told off for insulting behaviour - the man I had been insulting defended me, saying - "Mike wasn't insulting me. he was describing me"
@@monthapril6441what's wrong with demons or death? Christianity has always relied on fear and othering people to instill subjugation and control. OoooOOOO spooky symbols 🙄 give me a break. I'm Satanist myself.
I watched Brother Hovind's incredible seminar and it saved me! Yes it's incredible as in not credible and it saved me from Christianity. Thank you Dr Dino for making me an atheist!
Kent Hovind is quite literally one of the reasons I became an atheist. Let me explain. When I was a young kiddo, I was a young earth creationist. I was groomed by my parents and my church to believe these things, and Kent Having along with Ken Hamm were major influences in my life. The skills I learned to debate young earth creationism? Eventually led me to actual Science. I started in anthropology where I vigorously grilled my professor about carbon dating (I bet she remembers). Slowly I came to realize that this was reality and slowly came back to my roots - debate - and had a grand old time (and by that I mean lots of crying) deconstructing my faith. I now have an evolution tattoo. Thanks, Kent. Reality is so much better. Smooches.
I am 61 years old, and used to be very active in the church. I love that there are brilliant beautiful people like you, sharing sense and logic. Please keep up the fight. Thank you.
Pretty sure Jim Jones was an atheist in private, but it doesn't really matter, because he used Christianity to murder 900 people. His atheism wasn't involved.
I’ve seen a lot of these religious types use Jim Jones as an example of an someone who was an atheist. They clearly don’t know what they’re talking about nor have they done any research but it seems to be something many of them .2 over and over again.
That happens if someone like Kent, who has never studied anything, tries to take on and completely dismantle *multiple different scientific fields at once*. But you know, we're the arrogant ones, according to Kent.
Growing up around people just like these was extremely traumatic. That excerpt of the screaming was nearly my entire relationship with my father -- and the screaming wasn't nearly as bad as the beatings. The slurs were constant. The complete ignorance to what logical thinking actually was. Even now, decades longer, just listening to them, and to the way they condescend towards and infantilize Emma, feels like reliving the trauma as though it was fresh. They are the exact opposite of the loving people they claim to be. The only reason I can watch this is that I know that I am completely out of their sphere of physical influence. The real problem with trying to talk with and debate people like this is that you can't use reason to dissuade a person from a position they never reasoned themselves into in the first place. It's all just unthinking indoctrination that goes back too many generations to count and turns them all into unthinking, unreasoning, hateful clones of each other. I really detest using Us vs Them terminology, but I truly cannot find any part of myself in them at all and the only part of them I can find in myself are all the physical, emotional, and mental scars that living amongst them have left behind.
I’m sorry to hear that has happened to you. I don’t know, maybe, some people have had bad parents and they become bad parents themselves. Some people have emotional problems, temper problems, or trouble at work, they resort to drinking too much and abusing their family members. In the video, around 31 min, they claim that homosexuality is wrong but they can’t explain why it is wrong, other than claiming that the j god is the owner of everything. They hide behind their religion and spread hate while claiming they are not haters. It looks like the form of christianity that is present in the USA is very focused on LGBT.
I am so terribly sorry that you had to experience that. My own father broke my nose when I was seven years-old. My mother had to take me to the hospital to have it reset. My dad wasn't religious (he considered himself an agnostic- in reality, he was an atheist agnostic, but that's splitting hairs and completely besides the point)... although he wasn't religious, my mother was a devout Roman Catholic. On the way to the hospital, my mom told me to lie to the doctor; she wanted me to say I was running through the house and that I fell down. I was utterly confused because my mom had always instilled into us that lying was never right... it was an actual abomination and god would punish us for lying (Satan even had a special place in Hell just for liars). All of this got me thinking as I was trying to make sense of what my mother was telling me... as I did so, I remembered the worried look on my father's face before we left for the hospital. And that's when it hit me: *_"THIS WAS WRONG! WHAT MY DAD DID... WAS WRONG! Normal families didn't hit their children like this... because it was wrong, and doing so could get them in trouble with the police. MY MOM WANTED ME TO LIE SO MY DAD WOULDN'T GO TO JAIL!"_* This revelation (pardon the pun), completely changed my life. In a single moment, at the age of only seven, I realized that this was all bullshit (a word I knew well because both of my parents used it constantly - even my "devoutly religious" mother). Unfortunately, this experience had zero effect on my father's future behavior... there were many, many beatings to come, that my enabling mother would never stop (even though many of those beatings were directed upon her as well - because of course they were). But, as I said, it changed my life, and started me down the path towards a better understanding of atheism and psychology. I have no degree, but I am an autodidact (I've always had a passion for learning new things that hold my interest - I was intending on getting my degree, but life managed to prevent it... long story). But I digress... Like you, all I still have those emotional and physical scars that both my parents left upon me... but I _"did not go gentle into that goodnight"..._ I refused to allow them to shape the person I have become (and want to remain into the future). Although my mother refuses to acknowledge any of her responsibility in our abuse (me and my brother and sister - and even her own, I suppose), I was lucky enough that my father did genuinely apologize for his abuse, and he accepted full responsibility for his actions. I decided to forgive him (and I'm glad I did, it completely reshaped our relationship for the short time we had left - he died only 18 months later). I don't let my mother's refusal to accept her role effect me; I've moved on and privately forgiven her in my own way. I have learned that you simply cannot allow their abuse to turn you into what they are. We have complete control over who we want to be, and how we want to engage with those around us. Unless pushed by those who want to be cruel to others (who I will not tolerate, and I'm quite adept and giving as good - if not better - than I get), I try to be kind to everyone I meet. Kindness is the truest path, and will always leave you feeling better about yourself and your fellow man... and I will also allow you the opportunity to meet or discover some truly wonderful people... Emma Thorne is one of those who I feel truly blessed to have found. I also feel grateful to have met you and had the opportunity to listen to your story. I'm thankful that you are not only out of your parent's sphere of influence, but that - like me - you refused to allow it to change who it is you wish to be... and I'm very glad that you have found all of us, and that you feel welcomed into our circle of brother- and sisterhood. A fellowship of learning, rationality, kinship and kindness towards each other; as well as towards ourselves. Thank you for being the best you you could be, and for holding onto the strength it took to not allow your childhood abuse to turn you into the monsters that your tormentors became (I know exactly how difficult it is to choose the path of kindness when you've only been exposed, and completely raised in the path of irrationality, physical cruelty and mental torment). Never forget that you are a success story, and a true to life superhero.
I saw your vid on Hovind's dissertation and couldn't believe anyone could take it seriously. Here in Australia it's illegal to confer university degrees without proper accreditation so we don't have the US style diploma mills. I'm surprised anybody ever takes them seriously and yet he's still claiming it has value. Many years ago I got a scholarship to do a PhD at a significant English university and can imagine how my supervisor would have blown up had I ever written the folksy kind of stuff Hovind has written. It would never have reached submission. If Hovind was ever required to submit anything to a serious academic institution he would be way out of his depth.
Even theological degrees in Australia have to be from an accredited institution otherwise you don't qualify for HECS/HELP. My own theology degree was from Notre Dame in Freo. And while I'm an atheist, I have to admit my theology degree wasn't completely useless as the philosophy units at Notra Dame were very good as they were more from a secular/historical perspective.
@@jaclo3112 WOW STUDYING THEOLOGY 📖 LEAD YOU 👏 TO BECOME AN ATHIEST WAY TO GO NOTRE DAM BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF CRAZY 🤪 RELIGIOUS STUFF ALL OVER SO ..... MAKE WHAT YOU WANT OF THAT
And Kent will screengrab the first part of your comment and use that as "proof" that he is right and people is rooting for him, because he is that kind of prick.
Random trivia: did you know that the upside down cross was, and in some circles still is, a Christian symbol? It is called the cross of Saint Peter because the legend is that he was crucified upside down.
Matt Powell yelling like like a drunk mugger is honestly one of the most unsettling things I've heard in a long while. He and Kent are made for each other.
Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort started my journey to atheism in 2005. They helped open my eyes to how fake Christian love is. I owe them a lot. Without them, I might not have decided to do my own research.
Funny how things work out i got interested in atheist vs christian debates in 2008 and if it wasn't for the atheists i probably wouldn't be a believer today... You guys really do and say everything the bible says you do and say 😄
@@Oozy9Millimeetah I feel you Romans 1.22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"....the God saw this coming...... they say "Everything came from a dot of nothing that exploded"😂😂 they got me from the start.😆
Total respect Emma for how you dealt with Kent's condescension. I don't think I would be able to stop myself from at least saying in response something like "Kent, sweetie, I know that in your advanced age you are very very confused...".
"That might not be the best analogy, but you're either certain or you're not" is my new favorite instance of Matt Powell proving what he's speaking against practically preemptively
@Volitionn Arts I loved the irony of his particular analogy. Christians have been absolutely certain that Jesus is coming now... Uh, now... For centuries so many dipshits have confidently believed and preached that the end is nigh, as per the scriptures. It's all there in the Bible. It is describing events happening now.. Earthquakes, wars, unrest.. Jesus is definitely about to return.... Now. The RUclipsr Rationality Rules has a new channel, Low Fruit. The viewers have come up with a name for when Powell presents evidence that disproves his claim, as he is famous for it. "Trojan Source". Which is hilarious. I realise this isn't quite the same, but the self-own is still funny
This is the best, most adult rebuttal of those two clowns. American fanatical Christianity is a real pandemic, here. Thank you for helping to squash it by pointing out all their hypocrisy.
The corona pandemic pointing it out: Yes, AI based on neuronal networks is buggy cause it only calculates on possabilities but look at those prehistoric clowns and there brain melting down even when you tell them that there is no truth in a coin flip, only a 50 percent chance to be right and that's the one and only truth, and they call human crown of creation. :/
@@ramondwilliam1307 Than please explain what is Hovinds christian kind and why hippos and whales shouldn't be able to share an ancestor even when creationists use words like reptilians or mammals when they are logical terms based on evolution and kinds share something? Creationism should predict no over groups only parallel ones when the kind differ instead these are a clear sign for a hierachical tree of kinds where newer kinds could share traits of olders but lose the ability to reproduce with each other. The clown show is having no arguments and evidence instead saying "this is hard to belive" and that from the group that thinks their're created after the image from invisible space Santa. :D
@@schabe6419 Through God all things are possible. That's the awesome Omniscience, and Omnipotence of The Creator. You atheists get it wrong everytime, and it's rather tiresome, to show truth to you all, and still you deny it. It took One outside of time, space, and matter to Create all things in existence including us. Nothing can create itself. How God did it, is already written in His Word The King James Bible. Psalms 139 : 16 King James Bible - Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being imperfect, and in thy book (DNA) all my members (the body) were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. God revealed to David how he was formed, well over 2,000 years ago, and scientists are still playing catchup today. There was no cosmic explosion, and there just happened to be life. You say we believe in fairytales lol. Ya'll think you are apes. Think about that for a second. The reason atheists deny the fact that there is a Creator, is because ya'll love your sin, and want to be the god of yourselves. You will see The Creator! You best repent of your sins, while there still is time. Romans 10 :9 King James Bible. John 3:16-17 King James Bible.
@@ramondwilliam1307 Still not a scrap of proof. I get they call it "faith", but I can't imagine God wanted us all to be dumb to science, evidence, and medicine. You should probably stop typing on your computer if you believe he did.
Hovind: "It's so crazy to think that all the matter in the universe was in a dot." Also Hovind: Believes that man was made from dirt / clay and woman from the man's rib 🙃
One of my friends tried to brainwash me a couple decades back, with what I now realize was a Kent Hovind video. That was a defining moment towards me going further towards atheism. Thanks Kent!
Emma, as someone who came out of this sect of Christianity, THANK YOU. I’m one of the people who fell in love with science and found my way out of Christianity because of Kent Hovind. I appreciate you calling out their abhorrent behavior rather than giving them any more civility. Their beliefs kill people and they don’t give a shit.
@@mikewallis2987 Science isn't owned by anyone. Evolution and other creationism-disproving science is supported by hundreds of unrelated fields of study being done by thousands of unrelated scientists.
@@fullCollectable01 So that example of Matt Powell's very aggressive reaction is exactly how a lot of people act regarding LGBTQ+ people. I understand the perspective, they are scared that someone they care about will go to hell. But because of the intensity of this belief and the environment this kind of indoctrination produces a high number of LGBTQ+ teens commit suicide. It's also seen in the LDS'/Mormon church. And it's not just LGBTQ+ teens but also anyone who, like me, had to supress their own personhood in order to survive that environment.
As an athiest myself I have stopped saying I "believe" in evolution. Instead I say I understand evolution is the best explanation we currently have of the growth of organisms through time. The word understand fits so much better. Loving your channel. 😀
Re: "... The word understand fits so much better." I am fully with you there. So many Christians conflate 'belief' with 'faith', which doesn't help discussion or debate. It makes me smile when YE creationists keep banging on to atheists about abiogenesis, and the origin of the 'big bang'. Two big questions that science has not get got the answer for, though research and hypotheses are ongoing. Why they feel that all atheists should be invested in, have in-depth knowledge about, and desperate for these answers is beyond me. I wonder why they don't contact scientists instead? I see the same all too regularly with flat earthers demanding in-depth answers on physics, maths, and cosmology from FE debunkers. What is funny, is that they are unable to comprehend any answers presented. When blinkered and invested into their belief, virtually no answer will be good enough. Like Christianity though, we do occasionally see some de-convert with suitable evidence. I'm always open to credible evidence from theists that demonstrates their god/s, though may be waiting a while.
Your phrasing is very useful to avoid any unintentional misunderstanding. Though misunderstanding, I think, is not the problem with a lot of Christians. Dishonesty however is.
@@Ryangubbs I feel you are being unfair with regard to your generalisation of a lot of Christians. There are certain prominent Young Earth Creationist Christians who I would class as dishonest in the typical use of the word, intentionally deceitful. Kent Hovind, Matt Powell, Ken Ham, Eric Hovind, and their ilk are dishonest. I feel there are many Christians out there who have managed a level of self deception to a degree where they cannot perceive their willing ignorance, misunderstanding, misinforming and misrepresenting. When one has a deep rooted desire to have faith and hope in a particular god, or other deep rooted belief they are initially being dishonest to themselves and unknowingly to others. I recall a conversation I had with a flat earther, and talking on a particular topic on perceiving curvature, I managed to get them to understand how one can detect and see small amounts of curvature. The conversation when quiet for some time as they struggled with the cognitive dissonance, and eventually managed to deceive themselves into a position where our conversation effectively didn't happen, so that they could continue with their belief that the earth is flat.
The most curious thing about these types of religious zealots is that it doesn't give them a pause that the only way they are able to support their position is by arguing in bad faith. If the only way I was able to defend my arguments was through intellectual dishonesty, after a while I would probably start to have doubts whether my arguments are sound to begin with.
Hey Emma, just to back you up with a bit of a correction: Dendrochronology does not involve living trees, but the matching of dead trees by the growth rate in the tree rings. Kent is right, that the Dendrochronological record does not go back 6,000 years.... it goes back 14,000 years.
Dendrochronology establishes a time line by delineating overlapping sequences of tree ring patterns beginning with living trees in the present and working backward through the past. Living trees are sampled by core boring, and they anchor the dendrochronology sequence in the present time.
Micro bores can be done on living trees, without harm, to determine their age. Lake varves give ages of sediment layers as well over 100,000 years and the Antarctic ice cores reveal almost 1m years. So much for a 6000 year old Earth.
@@tonydarcy1606 As a sometime forestry technician, I've core bored many trees for silvicultural purposes. The standard bore extracts a core about 1/4 inch in diameter and as long as the bore in use. The methodology is to aim the bore toward the center of the tree and optimally hit the inner-most ring. Most techs plug the bore hole with a splinter of wood or bark afterwards to keep out entering insects or pathogens. The tree will rapidly heal the wound over. It's just a little owie.
Thank you so much for watching! I know this is a long one, hopefully the chapters help if it’s too much cringe for one sitting ;) Very big thanks due to a couple of people: Atheist Jr ruclips.net/user/AtheistJr Willow the wendigo ruclips.net/channel/UCW25mz7ZMpcmOGiJXQTywCg and to everyone who sent me links and kept me up to date on mentions from Kent! It's too much for one person to keep track of 😂 If you enjoyed this video, please do give it a like and consider sharing it! There’s a whole playlist of atheist content on my channel if you’d like to see more. If you’d like to support me, consider checking out my Patreon or merch store 😍 Gaming Channel: ruclips.net/user/LittleDuckGaming Twitch: www.twitch.tv/emmalittleduck Patreon: www.patreon.com/EmmaThorneVideos Merch: emma-thorne.com
Please debate against the ex-convict, ken hovin, on the bible only, he won't do it because he only cherry 🍒 picking verses in the bible. Crap=shit=manure=#2 is the same, is a word, only offend people get offended by word(s) but they have no problems using homophobic words.
Emma Thorne, I have recently discovered your channel and I simply love you. You're intelligent, logical, meticulous and savage in your analysis. Inspirational! Good work - keep it up!
I found this quite cathartic as well. I was religiously homeschooled for my entire childhood, and Kent's creationist videos were a staple growing up. I struggled a lot during that time, trying to balance meeting all the expectations placed on me as the perceived "eldest daughter" in a large religious family while trying to justify the dissonance that I experienced at every possible level due to my being (among other things) trans. One of the ways I tried to find escape was with science, at least what little I understood of it given my education and isolation from the real world. It was one of the few areas I had approved access to that didn't feel like a minefield of gender roles and familial expectations. I was so excited when one day my family went to hear Kent speak in person, I could not wait to actually meet one of the big "scientific" voices in my world and maybe even nerd out with him a little. When the moment finally came and I got to tell him how much I loved his videos and loved science, all he said to me was "what does your boyfriend think of that?" Bear in mind I was around 11 or 12 at the time, prepubescent. I don't remember much of the interaction after that, I was so dumbstruck and crestfallen to be dismissed like that. But I do know it did not improve from there and I walked away with my self confidence shaken and my first conscious experience of my own objectification. It wasn't all bad though, I developed an aversion to watching his videos after that and it helped kick off my journey away from that whole world.
I mentioned something in passing that was making Satanists look bad, and my sister-in-law asked, "didn't they sacrifice children?" So I said, "no, that was Christians." Later, when I was back home, I wondered if she and my brother understood me as "that was Christians that sacrificed the children" or "that was Christians that claimed Satanists sacrificed children." I meant the first, but both apply.
@@davecameron7348 And most of what did. Fish don't do well in waters of the wrong salinity. Freshwater fish would be fucked if they were put in the ocean, and saltwater would be as well in freshwater. There are a few exceptions, but most fish would die in a flood.
The easiest and fastest way to become an Atheist is to watch less than 5 minutes of Kent Hovind !!! With people like Kent we would still be living in the stone age !! Emma you are amazing !! I subscribed after just watching one of your videos….. Keep them coming !!
I grew up watching every single one of Kent Hovind’s videos. It’s strange to look back and remember what it felt like to be convinced that he was some sort of warrior of the Christian faith. Now I realize that he was just another part of my childhood that kept me believing the lies of a cult and denied me knowledge of the real world around me. I’m glad you are making these videos Emma. Keep up the good work. Ik you are helping a lot of people with this kind of content.
@@willowthewendigo creation testifys to a creator. Nothing begets more nothing , how can there be anything at all let alone the mass of diverse "things" we have in the first place it didn't come from nothingness
Unfortunately, there are still people out there that actually think Kent is doing "god's" work. It's ludicrous. So beating your wives, cheating on them as well as your taxes, and being rich as hell from untold amounts of lies is... God's work? Interesting.
"Why all the Satanist imagery?" - "Because I'm a Satanist Kent " I fucking love that bit. I'm not a Satanist but I've argued with some of my family about how wrong they are about them in the past because they still believe dumb shit like they killed babies and whatnot. The church really did a good job of villifying people who haven't done anything wrong and just used imagery from one of mythologies most well known rebellious figures
The funny thing that these people believe in all the frightening stuff about satanists but they never ever tried to image the most lovely beings from their beloved fictional bible -- angels. I mean the way angels are depicted in bible :)
I do adore the idea of lucifer, or satan, or whoever (lmao) being the honorable, disenfranchised hero of the story, with god being the tyrannical villain, underneath the pro-god propaganda the story is drowning in.
Even when he's not swearing at people, the fact that he calls people names so casually, with the intent of doing emotional harm, is foul. The guy is foul mouthed.
Greg Locke does the same thing. It's so weird. Listened to him rant one time telling his congregation to stop using the "Let's go Brandon" phrase because it's a placeholder for bad words ("F*ck Joe Biden"). Yet he calls ppl he doesn't like shit like "limp wristed flibber noodlers." These guys are about as self aware as a rock.
@@burningmisery Yep. With how contradictory it is, you can make the bible teach just about any position, so when they, say, cherry pick verses to promote homophobia or bigotry in general it's bc they already felt that way before approaching the bible. The book is just a mask to hide behind. "Oh, you don't like that? Take it up with Gawd!" Nah, how about we take it up with you, imaginary friends aside.
@@ta13s93 Hey now, according to animistic traditions rocks could be home to very wise spirits. I'd sooner converse with and take advice from a rock. I'd lose less braincells even if I was brained on it than I would listening to those two abhorrent people.
@@sallymayfield1874 he just wants to get on as many peoples channels as possible and attract a few gullble people each time, its all about the ROI, he can never admit he's wrong, he makes his living lying so he's only interested in collecting hits.
It's actually more than a little frustrating. I've heard people I like a lot I felt lose to him because they were saying smart things, but not addressing the nonsense he was spouting, thus allowing him to claim HE won. No, no smart person would fall for it, but by letting him continue in his script he was not brought down the way someone might have if they were addressing his real way of arguing.
@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 : then by your logic, the fact that the bible describes several different covenants between god and humans proves the bible not to be true. Thanks!
I just discovered your channel earlier this week and you have already skyrocketed to one of my top 5 favorite content creators. Thank goodness for people like you that fight the good fight against grifters like Kent Hovind. I can't believe that he still has any influence given his history. Thanks so much! Keep generating the great content.
Emma, I have literally thrown away 40 years of critical thinking and education and accepted Jesus as my....I can't even finish the joke it's so ridiculous. Thank you for your videos and conviction in challenging these whack-a-doodles and they're crack-pot theories.
Welcome to the dark side. Enjoy our fine dinner of Occam's Razor. It is the foundation philosophy of science. What is Occam’s razor? Occam’s razor is the idea that when we try to explain a phenomenon (today or the past) or event (today or the past), we go for the most mundane explanation rather than one that involves extraordinary phenomenon or extraordinary animals or beings such as aliens or gods or alien-gods. For example, some people have difficulty in believing that the Nazca geoglyphs were created as a cultural product, as symbols made by humans or maybe as symbols for their non existing gods. Some claim that these are landing zones so that they would serve as a guide for the aliens. Erick Von Danicken offers us the alien version of the explanation. Perhaps he even suggests that the aliens came and guided the humans to build such things. According to him, how could the Nazca people make such 100 m to 150 m long drawings on the ground if they did not have help from a flying space ship people to help guide them from above ground. Archaeologists reject this notion since it is an extraordinary claim. It is far more likely that they used a small scale drawing and they amplified it and they used visual techniques to draw it properly. Crop circle makers use the same kind of technique. It is the same with crop circle makers. They claim that aliens did it. From the POV of a scientist, ....nope. A human did it using standard, well known techniques. Some claim that the Egyptian pyramids, the various megaliths in Europe and Asia Minor, statues at Easter Islands are made of gigantic stones and that primitive humans must have had help from aliens. Erick Von Danicken is one such person who makes such claims. His problem is that he doesn’t know about primitive techniques that primitive humans could use and so, he reaches for the “aliens coming from other worlds” explanation. Christians claim that Jesus’s followers were dumb uneducated people and ask, “How could they have written the New Testament?”. Their answer is that some alien-god did his magic and gave them magical powers. This claim is even present in the Bible. Muslims claim that Mohamed could not have come up with the Koran and claim that it came from an alien-god or alien-being or angel. Mormons claim that Joseph Smith could not have come up with the Book of Mormon. Again, the claim is that some alien-god or a ghost of some kind did it. Primitive humans claimed that someone was ill because some bad spirit, a devil entered his body. Some of them claimed that lightning was done by some god. Or some natural disaster was done by some god. Why don’t today’s meteorologists claim that their god is angry when there is a hurricane? Why do they collect data, predict where a hurricane will hit and inform the people if a disaster is coming? Maybe it is bc they went to school and understood how the game of science is played and they understood nature. When police detectives are doing an investigation on a murder, do they ever conclude that some angel, a god, alien devil did it? Nope, since they follow Occam’s razor. Even if those police officers, those scientists are religious, mostly, they understand that they should not reach for extraordinary claims. When you want to play the sport known as science, there is a fundamental rule that all parties must obey: Occam’s Razor. Go for the lame explanation, go for the mundane explanation, go for nature. So when the question is about how life started, scientists look for the natural explanation. We don’t look for aliens and gods. Who made the universe, who made the stars? In science, we don’t waste time with such questions. We look for evidence and the evidence is always naturalistic. Religions invest a lot of time and money in building churches for their gods, but they never do research. if you don’t do research, how will you discover what the truth is? Do research and brings us the evidence for your gods and aliens.
Thanks Emma for the insight, and for giving me the inspiration to fight what I see as injustice and cruelty of people like Hovind and Powell. BTW kudos on that anti-Grail you’re drinking from. It’s a nice touch and I was disappointed to see that it wasn’t for sale at your store.
When I was a lot younger I actually fell for his rhetoric, the only saving grace (no pun intended) was that I never tried to push my beliefs onto anyone else. I’m so glad I woke up and left all those cult groups and am thankful that plenty of people are standing up against this bully.
It is scientifically okay to say “I don’t know yet!” Being convinced that you are right and you know everything leads to being thought of as being narrow minded and not making amazing discoveries in your life.
It always baffled me how Christians can be extremely hypocritical in that regard. All throughout my Christian life a lot of people said often how atheists and scientists were extremely arrogant. They talked about how they asserted to know it all. They repeated over and over how arrogant they were for being "convinced" there was nothing out there. While they would speak with full confidence that a God exists and it was their version of said God. Even when I believed, I always saw the hypocrisy in it, I was like "you are doing the same thing, you are condemming them for being closed minded, while you are proud to be close minded yourself" It only became worse, when I realized that most atheists, and almost every scientist do not act that way. Most are willing to say "I do not know".
Emma, you are so much stronger than I thought you were. When you first dug into Kent & Matt I thought, damn, I wonder if she knows what kind of hornets nest she just stepped into! But you rose above and shoved it down their bigoted throats. Great content!
Please take a moment and read: Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected Religion and Science-Denial are. Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches.
I'm pretty sure you are the only RUclipsr I know that says "I'll put the link in the description" and actually includes the links in the description without fail. So many other RUclipsrs are like "hey there's this really cool thing, link is in the description" and then they proceed to leave it out of the description. Thank you for actually doing what you say you're gonna do LOL. Also, spicy Emma Thorne is best Emma Thorne.
To be fair I often forget, there is a lot of work that goes into putting up a video and it takes me across multiple days, so others probably do the same!
Heavens to Betsy, your intro statement to those two absolute cabbages has single-handedly fed my soul for the next week. After all the straight-up disrespect he’s shown you, it was cathartic as heck to see you give such a strong response. Excellent, excellent work!
Just, wow.. I personally am a pretty hardcore atheist. I’m all about science and learning and all that sort of stuff and I love Emma’s videos. Sadly I’m also a bisexual dude that lives in Louisiana, sooo… Later on when I get over things like my social anxiety and actually start talking to people, I’d like to be genuine and honest. But people like Kent and Matt exist, so people I become friends with are at risk of wanting me dead cuz they’re that homophobic. Like the fuck?? Why should I have to worry about that stuff?? I’m lucky enough to have had very few experiences with people getting mad about my beliefs. But honestly if people like Matt Powell are somehow right, and people like him are “correct” I’d rather go to hell than be anywhere near someone like him.
That right there is evidence enough that these religions are made up stories promoting dichotomy and bigotry. Any hyper intelligent being would not be in the least concerned with an individual's sexuality. How they conducted themselves maybe but even that's petty in the grand scheme of things. If you're kind to others and yourself, if you are aware and open to evidence based change then you are awesome Hayden. You are the future we need and I love you for that. Be you my dude. Be awesome and know you are powerful.
I'm very impressed by the other guy in the Matt Powell audio clip. He was managing to stay calm, yet assertive, against someone actively becoming unhinged. Props to them.
Emma, you are a hero. Those two only preach lies and hatred. Thank you for showing them that it is not acceptable in our society. You have my undying respect.
Regarding Kent's idea of an intelligent creator: For me, every notion of intelligent creation goes out the window once you realize that a significant amount of people die every year because their immune system identified a harmless substance as a threat and killed them.
Spend 10 minutes thinking about ways to make humans more efficient and you'll realize either we're a collection of genetic tinkering and evolution, or the intelligent creator wasn't that smart
and as for a single god, this world is far too much of a jumble of random bullshit for a single guy to be in charge of it all. zeus, dagda, and every other pantheon have the excuse that multiple powers are at play against each other. ywyh has no such excuse (in the new belief systems, the original god was a minor deity).
@@comyuse9103 Fr tho. For YHWH (you messed up the characters' name but it's whatever it's not like he's gonna smite you or anything) it's like a 13 y/o just came up with random shit and called it a holy text.
One more thing. Kent did save me. Saved me from the destructive life, I would have had, if I believed in what he is saying. So thanks bro!!. You're a real pal. 😊
"Wait until judgement and see how that works out for you" Notice how he slipped that in when he was reaching maximum agitation. The good old threat of infinite punishment for a finite crime with that "crime" being not believing because there is no fucking evidence. What a loving religion. Bravo Emma, well done. You crushed them with honesty, rationality and reason.
You are unworthy. Love me or I'll burn you. If I punish you it's because you forced me to. It's your choice. These words are the words of an abuser. The Abrahamic god is modelled after the abusive men that made him up and used to justify their reprehensible behaviors and control others.
You have the restraint and composure of a true academic. I am well aware that my lack thereof will forever prevent me from debating "people" like him. You are a model human being.
Make me believe Atheist are right! What is a geological column? Can you show me at least one fossil for evolution? If Gators 🐊 live millions of years ago with dinosaurs 🦕 why haven’t there “kind”evolved? Like walking in two legs or even flying with wings like the dragons or something. If you can give me genuine answer’s for those question I’ll become an Atheist! But I want real proof like pictures!
@@oraciorobles3328 why are you asking for pictures over a youtube comment section? Do you not know how this works? The information is readily available and accessible so if you haven't looked at it on your own accord, you have no intention of questioning your beliefs and are as dishonest as the people who fooled you.
Completed my MA in psychology back in 1992 and wrote a thesis as part of my degree. PowerPoint wasn't a thing and we were absolutely required to provide references as part of our research. All accredited universities and colleges in the United States require the same. Hovind is full of it if he asserts otherwise.
Hovind has so little idea of the literary and technical standards of a scholarly thesis, that he doesn't even know why he should be embarrassed by the piece of garbage he produced. Both he and Powell are way lowbrow ignoramuses and sociopaths to boot. Hovind's idea that his thesis could be supported by references and citations in video productions that he doesn't even mention in the thesis, shows that the very concept that a thesis must be self-supporting is completely absent from his mental repertoire. Intellectually, he's an armpit-scratching hillbilly, like most evangelical preachers and apologists.
Actually PowerPoint came out in 1990, so he could have actually used it, but I don’t think that many people would have seen it on the radio show that his book was based on (that his dissertation was based on). 😜
I was a writing tutor at a small Liberal Arts college. When students came to see me after failing in composition 101 assignments, the work they brought me was often better composed and always more convincing that Kent's dissertation/book. The idea that people are going to be converted by reading or hearing his writing is beyond laughable.
I never liked Hovind, but I stopped listening to people debunking him completely because of how repetitive it got. I legitimately believe Hovind is beyond any reasoning or saving, he is so arrogant, dishonest, disrespectful, delusional, narcissistic, and brain dead that it actually makes me angry. I’ll be skipping this video but not because I don’t like Emma Thorne (On the contrary, I respect her tolerance for this idiot’s BS).
If you literally died you couldn't have left your comment. The word you're looking for is "figuratively". Words actually mean things. Kent Hovind has made a tidy living distorting language. Please be better than him.
@Mark’s Conplaystasy I was raised in Kent Hovind's bullshit since I was 6 years old, I was homeschooled, and raised in a cult for 16 years. I believed it at one point because it's all I was taught.
@@sassylittleprophet Kudos to you for setting yourself free! Starting over in life takes enormous courage. People like you, dedicated to finding your own authenticity, are inspirational to me, and countless others. Thankyou for sharing. :)
@@daniellamcgee4251 "starting over in life" -- you have no idea. I left all of it: the cult, my now ex-husband, my family, I even moved 2 hours away. I discovered I'm a lesbian and came out to my homophobic family, and I've recently cut ties with them as well, because there's no point of keeping that toxicity/abusive-ness in my life. And belief wise, honestly it's because I took my faith so seriously that I studied too much to see the inconsistencies and hypocrisy, both in the Bible and in the people claiming to follow it. I couldn't understand how they could still cling so tightly to beliefs that were so damaging to others. What was the point in believing something if it didn't inspire you to become a better person?
@@sassylittleprophetJeepers!!! I had a small idea, that's why I knew your comment was just the tip of the iceberg, and wanted to acknowledge that. Yes, your story IS HUGE!!! I am an ex-Jehovah's Witnesses ally (never a JW myself), and they, on leaving the cult are 'shunned' by all their family and whole community, and lose all they have ever known. But they find themselves. It's the same extreme homophobia in the JWs. Ex-JWs find genuine relationships with 'worldly' people who love them for who they are. The ex-JWs are quite a strong supportive community, too. I probably gravitated towards ex-JWs because I can relate a little bit personally. I have also travelled far from my family, and had to find the truth about myself away from the toxicity. I have also divorced, and realised late that a relationship is unlikely to work for me with a man. ( I am pan, and demi-sexual, though). My family is not homophobic at all, but there are other major stifling issues. I have contact with some of them now, though - from afar! I understand that it's different for you in that the foundation has completely dropped out of the bottom of your world, because you dared to be honest with yourself, and your family including your husband. Many religious zealots read and memorise, but they don't have the courage to be really open- minded and deeply think about what they are reading in their religious texts. You had that extraordinary courage. You have that integrity, resilience and will-power to make those seismic changes, and want to keep growing as a person. That's why you are hugely inspirational to me! It's important that people read about the damage these religions do, and for people who are currently emersed, to understand how you got out. It wasn't evil 'worldly' people leading you astray. It was study of the religious teachings and texts themselves. I can't ever fully understand how it is for you, but I have lived and learned enough to have more appreciation than most, of the enormity of what the words 'starting over' means for you. I hope you have been able to start forming your family of choice, with people who love you unconditionally, and that you are fully appreciating your freedom. (Albeit during a pandemic!) Sorry for all the words, I struggle to be succinct!
I only did a master's dissertation, but listening to him talk about why it's ok there were no references because his dissertation was a copy of a series of lectures that were referenced is maddening. Assuming you could just transcribe your lectures as a dissertation, you'd still need to reference everything!! My friend got into a plagiarism tribunal for writing something too similar to her own work because it wasn't referenced as such. Even just a reference of "references in the PowerPoint that you can find here" would be something!
PZ. We can do it on your channel and you keep all the revenue. You offer the very best evidence you have for evolution and I get equal time to rebut. Once you get tired of defending your first evidence you may go on to your second best etc. Call 855-big dino ext 3 to schedule a debate on your channel or Emma's.
@@dr.kenthovind4742 I heard your dissertation being read. In my country you wouldn't be able to get any school diploma above age 12 with that. Is there any reason besides bread and butter that keeps you stuck in that rut?
@@dr.kenthovind4742 lips service ! Kent you have really hurt the cause of Christ. Your moral character is greatly lacking ! When God say He hates divorce what does that mean to you. You stated many times that you believe the whole Bible. Kent do you believe that part of the Bible
Great job Emma. I was shocked at how good the whole thing was. I looked at the time and thought to myself "There's no way I'm gonna watch it all". ........... 55 minutes later. Holy crap this was good. Keep up the good work.
Please take a moment and read: Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected Religion and Science-Denial are. Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches. Sorry for this long comment!!
Thanks for your content Emma! Also I gotta say I grew up a very conservative and traditional Christian until I saw a Kent Hovind video. That set me on the path to learning more about science and Christianity until I became an atheist. Now I’m an out trans lesbian. It brings me so much joy that Kent started me on that road and I’m now everything he fears.
Christians don't fear atheist they don't want anyone to spend eternity in hell apart from God's gory. That is why they try to get atheist to see the truth we are created in God's image we did not evolve from monkeys.
Gen 1:16 god makes the stars after the earth Job 38:6 stars sang when god made the earth 🙄 livestock can develop stripes by looking at striped sticks: Genesis 30:37-40 (NIV) "37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban’s animals." 🤦
I became an Atheist because of the following: 1) I refuse to worship a god that hates me for being myself and is less mature than me, even though I am, legally speaking, a Child. 2) People like Kent Hovind and Matt Powell and their hateful, "Christian Love". 3) I read a long series of Science Textbooks because my Teachers would Preach bigoted, Religious nonsense instead of Science or History. 4) Christianity and other religions are boring but being myself is much more fun. Also, Matt Powell is one of the most disgusting Monsters I've ever seen, that clip of him screaming was giving me flashbacks of my Father... Love the Video Emma. *(EDIT: Wow, Didn't expect this much attention. Also ignore the mess in the replies would you kindly)*
I became an atheist because of the following: 1) I turned 12 years old and was able to determine religion was toxic and a huge scam. 2) #1 was all I needed to become an atheist
To me it was the constant hypocrisy. "God loves you, God has a plan for you. Everything happens because God intended it". I was with a disability that 20 years later, causes excruciating pain. If God loves me, why should it be that I myself have to conform to his strict, so hyper specific standards that seems to differ with every Christian, even biblical liberalists, and, why is it that he made me to be queer (sequality not found, still figuring that mess out) and trans. And the fact that Christians can't simply say "I don't know" if the question is super complex. I don't know where I lie with religion, but im not Christian because of all of what I mentioned.
When I was (11? 12?) Kent Holvind came and gave his young earth creationist seminar at a local church and you better believe my evangelical parents took us, ate it up and used his “defenses” for these views for YEARS. I have to tell you as an adult that’s healing up from all other kinds of related abuses at the hands of those for whom the church was a negative influence THESE videos are just so exactly perfect. Thanks for putting this content out 💜
Gen 1:16 god makes the stars after the earth Job 38:6 stars sang when god made the earth 🙄 livestock can develop stripes by looking at striped sticks: Genesis 30:37-40 (NIV) "37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban’s animals." 🤦
@Kent Hovind OFFICIAL Kent, feel free to call a psychiatrist. You are wrong on just everything. Don't you know that as good as all Christians in Europe consider evolution a fact and silly Young Earth Clown cults like yours nothing else but an embarrassment for actual Christianity?
@Kent Hovind OFFICIAL I'd cite every single debate in which you say we think we came from rocks. I just finished binging AronRa and he made a compilation. It's kind of disingenuous to keep saying that for as many years as you have, even when everyone you debate contradicts it. You are the reason I'm starting to take more interest in reaffirming my scientific beliefs, Mr. Hovind.
"We love people, that's why we call them f**s" wow yes this makes so much sense /s I had to watch this in little bits because Kent and Matt are infuriating human beings. Thanks for taking the time to break down their rhetoric (or lack thereof). You have way more patience than I.
Well you see, they "love"people the same way their god "loves" his children- by making their lives a living hell, then condemning them to eternal hell if they step out of line.
I watched the dissertation steam and I realized he was completely right. It is true and indisputable. His name *is* Kent Hovind. That was probably the first thing he learned at university, hence why it’s the first thing in his daisy wheel printout of his “dissertation”.
I could barely pay attention to the first few minutes because I was obsessing over how symmetrical the print on your shirt is. It’s even symmetrical on the sleeves.
Hello my name is not Kent Hovind. I participated in the livestream reading of his wonderfully articulated dissertation and it convinced me to get saved. Those lying atheists in the livestream chat could not refute any of his arguments. He is so intelligent and also would never beat my wife-- I mean his wife.
Hey Emma, I love your content and especially the Kent series. Thanks for making this content, really brightens my day and I also think atheist content like this is super valuable.
I used to watch vids like this back in the first wave of atheist youtube before most of them went off the rails into "anti SJW" and other rightwing nonsense. Its soo nice to have a new generation of sceptics to watch who are actually fighting the real fight once again
@@WhichDoctor1 Same, it was at the time upsetting, but now it's been weirdly comforting to know that not being religious doesn't exempt one from falling into information silos. Which as someone who does try to take a rational approach to my life but is still religious was a helpful thing during a formative time.
I never liked Hovind, but I stopped listening to people debunking him completely because of how repetitive it got. I legitimately believe Hovind is beyond any reasoning or saving, he is not worth any human being’s precious time. He is so arrogant, dishonest, disrespectful, delusional, narcissistic, and brain dead that it actually makes me angry. I’ll be skipping this video but not because I don’t like Emma Thorne (On the contrary, I respect her tolerance for this idiot’s BS).
@@chriscortez2036 I totally understand. Thats actually the reason I tailed off watching Jimmy Snow, there's only so many times I can watch the same person debunk the same arguments from the same people. This is my first Hovind dunking in like 10 years though, I am amazed he's still going. but its literally indistinguishable from the ones I remember from before. He sounds exactly the same, he makes the same nonsenical arguments, he repeats lies he's had proven to be lies to his face, he insults and belittles his adversaries in exactly the same ways. Its quite astonishing. But he's still there and still having people listen to him. So I'm grateful there is a new generation of sceptics ensuring that when someone googles his name most of the search results will be people pointing out what a piece of excrement he is.
@@chriscortez2036 I enjoy seeing the content, but I havnt seen a lot of Kent Hovind beforehand, so I might just not be burnt out yet. He does seem delusional and honestly I think its great you moved on from content that you got tired off, its not always easy to tune it out so props to you
Kent Hovind "the internet's lying grandpa". :-D
@@slevinchannel7589 No, in this case it is not wise to red flag him.
it would decrease his "deposit area", unfortunately it would also increase his grip on potential victim.
Kent is a hustler one you must always keep in the light to fight him in plain sight
I died when I heard that xD
@@slevinchannel7589 the area where he deposits his nonsense. but i could have been more clear.
You are awesome Aron and I would love to go on a spicy restaurant tour with you!
Aron grow up mate! You do not look smart with that kind of comment on here bro.
Kent Hovind, a convicted felon who has spent years in jail, pretending to be offended by the word “Sh!t” has made my day.
Please take a moment and read:
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem
than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize.
Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel
are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it,
but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that
and therefore limit themselves.
After this more-general message, i wanna add:
Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like
Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute,
while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning
to "flood the Office with his Man".
Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial
and showing some interestin tghings, so please go and watch.
Kent is a professional shyster using the Bible as a coverup.
Maybe because Hovind and the like care more about surface-level "sounding/looking moral" > actual morality.
@@didograce3531 Hovind childlishly tries to sound and look moral and fails at that spectacularly.
Hes offended by the word shit, but is fine with beating his partner
Hello Emma Thorne,
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For a second I thought this comment was generated by a spam bot, which honestly just makes it even funnier.
First two sentences of Emma's dissertation: "Hello lovely people. My name is Emma." Strong start. Current PhD students, take note.
After reading the RUclips generated dissertation conferring your phd Dr Thorne- we have decided to award you the medal that we like to call the Pulitzer medal of literary achievement- exactly the same as a Pulitzer Prize in our opinion. Sincerely- Columbia University( fans)
I was raised with Kent Hovind’s video series and even as a child I could pick apart his fallacies and poor arguments, despite never being allowed to verbally question them. He (among other prominent creationists) is a large part of why I am now an atheist.
well done you😀
Not being allowed to verbally question something is a clear sign it deserves to be questioned
A family friend gave us some Creationist books because they heard I like dinosaurs, and I read them to laugh at the misinterpretations. It was delightful because I was the kid who had already read into as much of the science as was available to the public, in books and magazines at the library, articles that boggled my mind I would just look at the figures for.
I saw him in person. My cousin lived on his ranch after he got out of jail. I've heard very strange things about that ranch. There used to be a video with my cousin and Kent before Kent wiped his RUclips. My cousin was less Fundamentalist and more just mentally unwell and smoked a ton of pot....
@@darkstarr984 Kent was what happened when I was into dinosaurs like most little kids but wasn't allowed to read the evolution parts of the books.
Matt: Are you a Christian?
Me: No, I am an Atheist.
Matt: So you believe in Satan?
Me: Which part of "Atheist" did you not understand?
Well this Ra character is a athiest and he became a Satanist,
@@johanjacobs2651 Yeah, its Sarcasm. They don't really believe Satan in the bible exists.
@@johanjacobs2651 There's also Pastafarians, doesn't mean they actually believe in the flying spaghetti monster. That and satanism are kinda like IRL parodies of real religions.
well, satan isn't a god.
pretty sure atheism isn't a disbelief in all supernatural events/concepts,it's just a lack of belief in deities.
so it is in fact possible to believe in satan and be an atheist.
...which has me wondering.
if we accept a god as a supernatural being who created life,
what if some scientist in the multiverse created the Big bang in an experiment?
what if time flows much faster inside this bubble universe and that scientist had a way to intervene in it?
would you still be an atheist if you agreed that happened?
...anyway, i digress.
I just use my favourite line from The Kingsman: "Hail Satan, and have a lovely day."
Imagine being berated about morality by a convicted felon, a tax defrauding, womanising, wife-beating grifter. How will you ever sleep at night?!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha Wait until Hovind and Powell eventually announce they’re a couple.
Funny where's the proof he beat his wife...I'll wait
@@MackMayne420 On September 21, Judge Clinton Hyde of District Court of Conecuh County Alabama found Hovind guilty of third degree domestic assault against Cindi Lincoln, Hovind's third wife.
I hope you didn’t wait too long .
@@lieslceleste3395 that doesn't mean he did it he is still going to court about hear his story then hers lmao 😂 ur a simp my guy
As a third year law student I can pretty much guarantee that no lawyer in their right mind would even dare to write such a letter or support such a letter
It was high key hilarious. I'd frame it.
Congratulations and good luck on the bar. As a lawyer, I'll only respond to this if I'll disagree - you gave me all the more reason to watch 🎉
Edit: having watched now, I found you just to say: Oh. My God. Lulz.
suspect as much , i bet kenny went out to try and find a lawyer to support that narcist travesty ...and either got laughed out of the few small offices that even entertain hearing him out as i bet most of em did a google search at his name and said NOPE!
I hate to break it to you, and while I'm sure you are actually right, can I just point out that Hovind went to Florida to get that letter? If there ever was a lawyer in the world who would write that drivel, it would be a Florida shyster...
@@AB-80X dont tell me that such a lawer can exist in florida ....write such narcist drivel and still hold a license ?
The recursive picture-in-picture of Emma watching Kent & Matt watching Emma watching Kent & Matt was delightfully goofy.
Matt Powell "...that's like joking about cannibals!"
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other... “Does this taste funny to you?”
Cannibal eats missionary, gets a taste for religion
Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his brother in the woods?
What does a cannibal call a pregnant person?
A kinder surprise
What do cannibals eat to freshen their breath?
Men toes.
These two cannibals are sitting by the campfire having dinner. One says " I can’t stand my mother in law". The other says " so , just eat the potatoes".
I grew up in a cult that had me brainwashed on Kent Hovind when I was only 12 or 13. The work you and your colleagues are doing has been incredibly helpful in my deprogramming, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
@@josephthinn3900 funny you call evolution a poisonous lie when Kent Hovind evades paying taxes and beats women. I guess to you yec's that's okay.
@@sudo4598 So if Kent Hovind were to pay his taxes and be nice to women would that help your Fairytale of Evolutionism suddenly become true? LOL
@@josephthinn3900 how is it a lie? It's pretty well-substantiated
@@clubpenguin13531 Yeah I know that is what they told you to believe..
They Lied...
@@clubpenguin13531 WHAT is "pretty well substantiated"?
Remember to be Specific..
Finches beaks, Dog Ears, Moth Colors?
At the age of 83 it is good to know people like you are giving the religious a portion of critical thinking Hallelujah
@@johnsatan117 based af
Hope you are doing well!
Hey, I've found a person older than me in aYT comment section! I'll be sure to let everyone know right here when I reach 83 (only 11 years to go) assuming Google hasn't shut it down by then (admittedly, more than likely).
Great job. Just discovered your podcast. 72 years old and always open to new input into my mind after years of crap. Love your take on the world. Atheist but still open to incoming facts ❤️ From down under NZ
She has a podcast ? I'm looking on all the podcasting platforms and can't find it....help! If she has a podcast too I need to check it out
Kent Hovind made me feel even better about being an atheist.
Who do you find more vile, Kent or Matt? This might be a good debate topic. 😁
He helped me BECOME an atheist. His debate performances were so poor and his opponents' so good that it made me rethink intelligent design as a whole.
@@HedgerowHeathen I’m very happy for you Brannon. His performances, I agree, are so poor I’d describe them as abysmal. He is not only poorly educated, but poorly researched, hopelessly naive, and proactively hateful. We can only feel sorry for him and even sorrier for the children he has, whom he will undoubtedly brainwash.
Kent Hovind made me feel worse about being a human.
Well explain how a banana fits perfectly in my hand and my butt! If that isn't intelligent design then I don't know what is.
As I approach my 49th birthday, it gives me so much pleasure knowing there are people like Emma in the younger generations. Well spoken, intelligent, funny, empirical, and open minded.
Of course u would love younger atheists lol 😆
@@MackMayne420
Nobody loves the young like priests.
@@burningmisery Damn.... Bruh....
@@MackMayne420 why wouldn't anyone not like seeing well spoken, intelligent, funny, empirical and open minded people in the younger generations? why is that a bad thing to you? Do you want younger generations to be stupid, closed minded, unintelligent and religious instead?
she’s 26
And on the burden of proof, keep this one handy: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Textbook reply "what is your evidence for this?" ;)
This principle goes by the name of "Hitchen's razor", in case anyone wondered
Hearing your direct call-out of Kent and Matt was honestly healing for me. All the best to you!
The school I attended and graduated from forced us to watch all of Kent Hovind's seminar series FOR A GRADE.. This show and others that are exposing Kent and the people like him for who and what they truly are are amazing. Thank you. Keep it up and don't let off the gas pedal. Years of psychological torment, questioning reality, depression, and contemplating suicide is the result of these evil people brainwashing young children for their own gain and narcissistic egos.
Please take a moment and read:
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem
than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize.
Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel
are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it,
but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that
and therefore limit themselves.
After this more-general message, i wanna add:
Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like
Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute,
while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning
to "flood the Office with his Man".
Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial
and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected
Religion and Science-Denial are.
Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches.
Sorry for this long comment!!
“You know Satanists actually sacrificed babies”
Don’t confuse Satanists with Catholics.
Dust comes from rocks and man was made from dust... so, he does think he came from a rock..
Plus, spontaneously turning into an elephant would prove god's existence and disprove evolution... so... like, all of his arguments are projections.
@@matthewcarter919 Exactly, it is KENT that is the rock-man. We believe we are primarily made of hydrocarbons, are made of the most frequent elements of the universe.
Made of hydrocarbons that even form in space, that in water on clay surfaces combine to long chain molecules, that naturally make copies of themselves; and that on one side have properties that (also naturally forming) lipid molecules attach to it and protect the molecule.
Repeat that process under varying conditions trillions of times, and chances are that some are more robust than others, and maybe even have some functionality to do something that further improves their survivability.
Note: with hydrocarbons I mean organic molecules consisting largely of carbon in strings or rings and hydrogen.
@@feedingravens
1. carbohydrates aren't
2. Genesis said specifically dust of the earth. So if you think Rocks and dust are main of grains, go ahead... eat rocks and dirt...
@@matthewcarter919 Just a wrong word (I am german). I meant hydrocarbons.
In german the carbon comes first ("Kohlenwasserstoff"). C, H, O, N.
First mineral in the composition of humans is calcium with 1.5%.
"Dust comes from rocks and man was made from dust" - your words, not mine.
From your own words, dust is primarily ground rocks, i.e. minerals.
Even fertile soil consists to 43% of minerals, organic material 3-10%.
Btw, what is "bites the dust" is in german "bites in the grass".
@@feedingravens so, I am talking about Genesis. If one is following a literal interpretation of genesis, it says that man was made from dust.
Also, hydrocarbons are not #1 in the universe.
Hydrogen and helium are #1, then distantly behind that is oxygen... then a fraction of that is carbon. For every 200 hydrogen atoms, you have one carbon.
On earth oxygen is the most plentiful element, followed by magnesium and then silicon.
Using sheer probabilities, the "dust of the earth" spoken of in genesis would likely be a silicon oxide of some kind.
That letter from his “lawyer” has the same vibe of your childhood friend saying that he can stay at your house overnight because his mom totally said he could.
i don't get how he thinks people are stupid enough to fall for that.
@@comyuse9103Think, “Trump supporters”…
On the Satanic Panic... I was literally a victim of it. I lived in a small rural town & I got into heavy metal & punk music as a kid. A local judge who was related to my parents' neighbors & also a religious nutjob would have cops follow me around & get me on any bogus charge they could make up. He once even told my mom that he was gonna put me in jail for 6 months because I was a "devil worshipper." That was literally the reason & exactly what he said. He abused his position as a judge to make my life hell.
I didn't know my rights at all back then, but it wouldn't have helped if I did...a lawyer I got for one of the things he accused me of was amazed at how the judge was obviously abusing his position & obviously targeting me. Evidence wasn't necessary for him to convict me. He basically wanted to use his position as a judge to "scare" or punish me into submitting to Jeezus.
Kent Hovind and Ken Ham are a large part of what led me to loose my faith and become an atheist nearly twenty years ago.
Kent Hovind and Ken Ham are a large part of what led me to lose my faith in HUMANITY, and a huge reason that I really would like to leave the U.S. and live in a country that isn't full of these morons.
"I can't be kind about this, because these people are treating the Flintstones like it was a documentary!" -- Lewis Black, from his stand up show "Red, White, and Screwed," circa 2006.
She is so nice, even when she's eviscerating these wastes of space. It's impressive, really! What a proper role model!
I could never do that. Despite being a typical mild-mannered child of The Empire ( UK, born in the 50s). I was once told off for insulting behaviour - the man I had been insulting defended me, saying - "Mike wasn't insulting me. he was describing me"
I guess you didn’t notice all the demonic death symbols plastered all over her blouse..
@@monthapril6441what's wrong with demons or death?
Christianity has always relied on fear and othering people to instill subjugation and control.
OoooOOOO spooky symbols 🙄 give me a break. I'm Satanist myself.
@@monthapril6441 my guy, grow up
@@monthapril6441Typical christian response, so that degrades everything she says in this video? Let's not start insulting appearances now.
I watched Brother Hovind's incredible seminar and it saved me!
Yes it's incredible as in not credible and it saved me from Christianity.
Thank you Dr Dino for making me an atheist!
Not gonna lie.
They had us in the first half.
Well written my friend, good job
Me too! Thank´s "Dr." Dino.
Dang... I already formed that punch line in my head before I got to the second line!
Ahallelujah!
Kent Hovind is quite literally one of the reasons I became an atheist. Let me explain.
When I was a young kiddo, I was a young earth creationist. I was groomed by my parents and my church to believe these things, and Kent Having along with Ken Hamm were major influences in my life.
The skills I learned to debate young earth creationism? Eventually led me to actual Science. I started in anthropology
where I vigorously grilled my professor about carbon dating (I bet she remembers). Slowly I came to realize that this was reality and slowly came back to my roots - debate - and had a grand old time (and by that I mean lots of crying) deconstructing my faith. I now have an evolution tattoo.
Thanks, Kent. Reality is so much better. Smooches.
I am 61 years old, and used to be very active in the church. I love that there are brilliant beautiful people like you, sharing sense and logic. Please keep up the fight. Thank you.
So nice, your reaction. It made me smile. ♥
Matt Powell keeps claiming Jim Jones was an atheist. Jones was a Christian preacher who started his own Christian church.
You’re wrong. I’m an atheist, not a christian, but i’ve actually research jones so i’m not biased, Jones was an atheist, he lied to his congregation.
Even if he was atheist, God couldn't save those people who believed?
Pretty sure Jim Jones was an atheist in private, but it doesn't really matter, because he used Christianity to murder 900 people. His atheism wasn't involved.
@@SilkyLew They believed in Jim Jones. That's why they all died.
I’ve seen a lot of these religious types use Jim Jones as an example of an someone who was an atheist. They clearly don’t know what they’re talking about nor have they done any research but it seems to be something many of them .2 over and over again.
I love how his entire argument is “that doesn’t make sense to me”
That happens if someone like Kent, who has never studied anything, tries to take on and completely dismantle *multiple different scientific fields at once*. But you know, we're the arrogant ones, according to Kent.
Yeah. That is most creationist arguments.
Growing up around people just like these was extremely traumatic. That excerpt of the screaming was nearly my entire relationship with my father -- and the screaming wasn't nearly as bad as the beatings. The slurs were constant. The complete ignorance to what logical thinking actually was. Even now, decades longer, just listening to them, and to the way they condescend towards and infantilize Emma, feels like reliving the trauma as though it was fresh. They are the exact opposite of the loving people they claim to be. The only reason I can watch this is that I know that I am completely out of their sphere of physical influence. The real problem with trying to talk with and debate people like this is that you can't use reason to dissuade a person from a position they never reasoned themselves into in the first place. It's all just unthinking indoctrination that goes back too many generations to count and turns them all into unthinking, unreasoning, hateful clones of each other. I really detest using Us vs Them terminology, but I truly cannot find any part of myself in them at all and the only part of them I can find in myself are all the physical, emotional, and mental scars that living amongst them have left behind.
My mother joined a xtian cult when I was a kid. I feel your trauma 😢.
I’m sorry to hear that has happened to you.
I don’t know, maybe, some people have had bad parents and they become bad parents themselves. Some people have emotional problems, temper problems, or trouble at work, they resort to drinking too much and abusing their family members.
In the video, around 31 min, they claim that homosexuality is wrong but they can’t explain why it is wrong, other than claiming that the j god is the owner of everything.
They hide behind their religion and spread hate while claiming they are not haters.
It looks like the form of christianity that is present in the USA is very focused on LGBT.
I am so terribly sorry that you had to experience that. My own father broke my nose when I was seven years-old. My mother had to take me to the hospital to have it reset. My dad wasn't religious (he considered himself an agnostic- in reality, he was an atheist agnostic, but that's splitting hairs and completely besides the point)... although he wasn't religious, my mother was a devout Roman Catholic. On the way to the hospital, my mom told me to lie to the doctor; she wanted me to say I was running through the house and that I fell down. I was utterly confused because my mom had always instilled into us that lying was never right... it was an actual abomination and god would punish us for lying (Satan even had a special place in Hell just for liars). All of this got me thinking as I was trying to make sense of what my mother was telling me... as I did so, I remembered the worried look on my father's face before we left for the hospital. And that's when it hit me: *_"THIS WAS WRONG! WHAT MY DAD DID... WAS WRONG! Normal families didn't hit their children like this... because it was wrong, and doing so could get them in trouble with the police. MY MOM WANTED ME TO LIE SO MY DAD WOULDN'T GO TO JAIL!"_*
This revelation (pardon the pun), completely changed my life. In a single moment, at the age of only seven, I realized that this was all bullshit (a word I knew well because both of my parents used it constantly - even my "devoutly religious" mother). Unfortunately, this experience had zero effect on my father's future behavior... there were many, many beatings to come, that my enabling mother would never stop (even though many of those beatings were directed upon her as well - because of course they were). But, as I said, it changed my life, and started me down the path towards a better understanding of atheism and psychology. I have no degree, but I am an autodidact (I've always had a passion for learning new things that hold my interest - I was intending on getting my degree, but life managed to prevent it... long story). But I digress...
Like you, all I still have those emotional and physical scars that both my parents left upon me... but I _"did not go gentle into that goodnight"..._ I refused to allow them to shape the person I have become (and want to remain into the future). Although my mother refuses to acknowledge any of her responsibility in our abuse (me and my brother and sister - and even her own, I suppose), I was lucky enough that my father did genuinely apologize for his abuse, and he accepted full responsibility for his actions. I decided to forgive him (and I'm glad I did, it completely reshaped our relationship for the short time we had left - he died only 18 months later). I don't let my mother's refusal to accept her role effect me; I've moved on and privately forgiven her in my own way. I have learned that you simply cannot allow their abuse to turn you into what they are. We have complete control over who we want to be, and how we want to engage with those around us. Unless pushed by those who want to be cruel to others (who I will not tolerate, and I'm quite adept and giving as good - if not better - than I get), I try to be kind to everyone I meet. Kindness is the truest path, and will always leave you feeling better about yourself and your fellow man... and I will also allow you the opportunity to meet or discover some truly wonderful people... Emma Thorne is one of those who I feel truly blessed to have found. I also feel grateful to have met you and had the opportunity to listen to your story. I'm thankful that you are not only out of your parent's sphere of influence, but that - like me - you refused to allow it to change who it is you wish to be... and I'm very glad that you have found all of us, and that you feel welcomed into our circle of brother- and sisterhood. A fellowship of learning, rationality, kinship and kindness towards each other; as well as towards ourselves.
Thank you for being the best you you could be, and for holding onto the strength it took to not allow your childhood abuse to turn you into the monsters that your tormentors became (I know exactly how difficult it is to choose the path of kindness when you've only been exposed, and completely raised in the path of irrationality, physical cruelty and mental torment). Never forget that you are a success story, and a true to life superhero.
“Because I’m a SATANIST, Kent”
I’m screaming. actually howling rn. You’re doing the lord’s work, pun intended.
"What do you know, Ermma? You're just a little RUclips student!"
"I MAY BE A RUclips STUDENT...." Ermrmra paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!"
I saw your vid on Hovind's dissertation and couldn't believe anyone could take it seriously. Here in Australia it's illegal to confer university degrees without proper accreditation so we don't have the US style diploma mills. I'm surprised anybody ever takes them seriously and yet he's still claiming it has value. Many years ago I got a scholarship to do a PhD at a significant English university and can imagine how my supervisor would have blown up had I ever written the folksy kind of stuff Hovind has written. It would never have reached submission. If Hovind was ever required to submit anything to a serious academic institution he would be way out of his depth.
Even theological degrees in Australia have to be from an accredited institution otherwise you don't qualify for HECS/HELP. My own theology degree was from Notre Dame in Freo. And while I'm an atheist, I have to admit my theology degree wasn't completely useless as the philosophy units at Notra Dame were very good as they were more from a secular/historical perspective.
@@jaclo3112 WOW STUDYING THEOLOGY 📖 LEAD YOU 👏 TO BECOME AN ATHIEST WAY TO GO NOTRE DAM BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF CRAZY 🤪 RELIGIOUS STUFF ALL OVER SO ..... MAKE WHAT YOU WANT OF THAT
Fair dinkum, mate.
Kent is partially right. Watching Emma's content made me pause and say "I need to get saved." From ever seeing any more of Kent.
For me it's less about Hovind, and more about Powell. If I never see nor hear anything from him again, it will be too soon.
And Kent will screengrab the first part of your comment and use that as "proof" that he is right and people is rooting for him, because he is that kind of prick.
@@AndersKjeldgaardNielsen Ken is used to quote mining and taking things out of context. So it wouldn't be a fucking shock.
Random trivia: did you know that the upside down cross was, and in some circles still is, a Christian symbol? It is called the cross of Saint Peter because the legend is that he was crucified upside down.
Kent’s videos were part of what made me an atheist. Thanks Kent.
All you have to do is watch one of his videos. He's repeated the same nonsense for decades.
Reading The Bible is what made me an atheist. It's insane to worship a bigoted genocidal infanticidal misogynistic racist narcissistic psychopath.
Matt Powell yelling like like a drunk mugger is honestly one of the most unsettling things I've heard in a long while. He and Kent are made for each other.
Especially from coming out of some baby faced dudes mouth, it gives physco vibes
Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort started my journey to atheism in 2005. They helped open my eyes to how fake Christian love is. I owe them a lot. Without them, I might not have decided to do my own research.
So you now believe that everything came from an explosion of nothing? Haha okay goodluck but u will regret your decision someday
@@slevinchannel7589 but that's what's said with the evolution theory.......but please enlighten me how did we get here?
Please explain the bigbang theory
Funny how things work out i got interested in atheist vs christian debates in 2008 and if it wasn't for the atheists i probably wouldn't be a believer today... You guys really do and say everything the bible says you do and say 😄
@@Oozy9Millimeetah I feel you Romans 1.22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"....the God saw this coming...... they say "Everything came from a dot of nothing that exploded"😂😂 they got me from the start.😆
Total respect Emma for how you dealt with Kent's condescension. I don't think I would be able to stop myself from at least saying in response something like "Kent, sweetie, I know that in your advanced age you are very very confused...".
"That might not be the best analogy, but you're either certain or you're not" is my new favorite instance of Matt Powell proving what he's speaking against practically preemptively
@Volitionn Arts I loved the irony of his particular analogy.
Christians have been absolutely certain that Jesus is coming now... Uh, now...
For centuries so many dipshits have confidently believed and preached that the end is nigh, as per the scriptures. It's all there in the Bible. It is describing events happening now.. Earthquakes, wars, unrest..
Jesus is definitely about to return.... Now.
The RUclipsr Rationality Rules has a new channel, Low Fruit. The viewers have come up with a name for when Powell presents evidence that disproves his claim, as he is famous for it. "Trojan Source". Which is hilarious. I realise this isn't quite the same, but the self-own is still funny
Truly Mr Hovind is the only person I can bring to mind who perfectly fits the expression "you can tell he's lying because his lips are moving".
Well you have not met my ex yet...
This is the best, most adult rebuttal of those two clowns. American fanatical Christianity is a real pandemic, here. Thank you for helping to squash it by pointing out all their hypocrisy.
The corona pandemic pointing it out: Yes, AI based on neuronal networks is buggy cause it only calculates on possabilities but look at those prehistoric clowns and there brain melting down even when you tell them that there is no truth in a coin flip, only a 50 percent chance to be right and that's the one and only truth, and they call human crown of creation. :/
The clown show is believing one "evolved" or came from primordial ooze lol.
@@ramondwilliam1307 Than please explain what is Hovinds christian kind and why hippos and whales shouldn't be able to share an ancestor even when creationists use words like reptilians or mammals when they are logical terms based on evolution and kinds share something?
Creationism should predict no over groups only parallel ones when the kind differ instead these are a clear sign for a hierachical tree of kinds where newer kinds could share traits of olders but lose the ability to reproduce with each other.
The clown show is having no arguments and evidence instead saying "this is hard to belive" and that from the group that thinks their're created after the image from invisible space Santa. :D
@@schabe6419 Through God all things are possible. That's the awesome Omniscience, and Omnipotence of The Creator. You atheists get it wrong everytime, and it's rather tiresome, to show truth to you all, and still you deny it.
It took One outside of time, space, and matter to Create all things in existence including us. Nothing can create itself. How God did it, is already written in His Word The King James Bible.
Psalms 139 : 16 King James Bible - Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being imperfect, and in thy book (DNA) all my members (the body) were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. God revealed to David how he was formed, well over 2,000 years ago, and scientists are still playing catchup today.
There was no cosmic explosion, and there just happened to be life. You say we believe in fairytales lol. Ya'll think you are apes. Think about that for a second.
The reason atheists deny the fact that there is a Creator, is because ya'll love your sin, and want to be the god of yourselves. You will see The Creator! You best repent of your sins, while there still is time. Romans 10 :9 King James Bible. John 3:16-17 King James Bible.
@@ramondwilliam1307 Still not a scrap of proof. I get they call it "faith", but I can't imagine God wanted us all to be dumb to science, evidence, and medicine. You should probably stop typing on your computer if you believe he did.
Hovind: "It's so crazy to think that all the matter in the universe was in a dot."
Also Hovind: Believes that man was made from dirt / clay and woman from the man's rib 🙃
One of my friends tried to brainwash me a couple decades back, with what I now realize was a Kent Hovind video. That was a defining moment towards me going further towards atheism. Thanks Kent!
That's a interesting way to end a friendship.
Emma, as someone who came out of this sect of Christianity, THANK YOU. I’m one of the people who fell in love with science and found my way out of Christianity because of Kent Hovind. I appreciate you calling out their abhorrent behavior rather than giving them any more civility. Their beliefs kill people and they don’t give a shit.
W.h.o.'s Science?
@@mikewallis2987 Science isn't owned by anyone. Evolution and other creationism-disproving science is supported by hundreds of unrelated fields of study being done by thousands of unrelated scientists.
@@mikewallis2987 what even is this comment? Haha
Please, don't be hysterical. How do their beliefs kill people?
@@fullCollectable01 So that example of Matt Powell's very aggressive reaction is exactly how a lot of people act regarding LGBTQ+ people. I understand the perspective, they are scared that someone they care about will go to hell. But because of the intensity of this belief and the environment this kind of indoctrination produces a high number of LGBTQ+ teens commit suicide. It's also seen in the LDS'/Mormon church. And it's not just LGBTQ+ teens but also anyone who, like me, had to supress their own personhood in order to survive that environment.
As an athiest myself I have stopped saying I "believe" in evolution. Instead I say I understand evolution is the best explanation we currently have of the growth of organisms through time. The word understand fits so much better. Loving your channel. 😀
Re: "... The word understand fits so much better."
I am fully with you there. So many Christians conflate 'belief' with 'faith', which doesn't help discussion or debate. It makes me smile when YE creationists keep banging on to atheists about abiogenesis, and the origin of the 'big bang'. Two big questions that science has not get got the answer for, though research and hypotheses are ongoing. Why they feel that all atheists should be invested in, have in-depth knowledge about, and desperate for these answers is beyond me. I wonder why they don't contact scientists instead?
I see the same all too regularly with flat earthers demanding in-depth answers on physics, maths, and cosmology from FE debunkers. What is funny, is that they are unable to comprehend any answers presented. When blinkered and invested into their belief, virtually no answer will be good enough. Like Christianity though, we do occasionally see some de-convert with suitable evidence. I'm always open to credible evidence from theists that demonstrates their god/s, though may be waiting a while.
Your phrasing is very useful to avoid any unintentional misunderstanding. Though misunderstanding, I think, is not the problem with a lot of Christians. Dishonesty however is.
@@Ryangubbs I feel you are being unfair with regard to your generalisation of a lot of Christians. There are certain prominent Young Earth Creationist Christians who I would class as dishonest in the typical use of the word, intentionally deceitful. Kent Hovind, Matt Powell, Ken Ham, Eric Hovind, and their ilk are dishonest. I feel there are many Christians out there who have managed a level of self deception to a degree where they cannot perceive their willing ignorance, misunderstanding, misinforming and misrepresenting. When one has a deep rooted desire to have faith and hope in a particular god, or other deep rooted belief they are initially being dishonest to themselves and unknowingly to others.
I recall a conversation I had with a flat earther, and talking on a particular topic on perceiving curvature, I managed to get them to understand how one can detect and see small amounts of curvature. The conversation when quiet for some time as they struggled with the cognitive dissonance, and eventually managed to deceive themselves into a position where our conversation effectively didn't happen, so that they could continue with their belief that the earth is flat.
I accept evolution as to explain to diversity of life on Earth. My general answer.
Guys like Kent are the reason I don’t believe in Christianity anymore.
The most curious thing about these types of religious zealots is that it doesn't give them a pause that the only way they are able to support their position is by arguing in bad faith. If the only way I was able to defend my arguments was through intellectual dishonesty, after a while I would probably start to have doubts whether my arguments are sound to begin with.
they literally preach against the very concept of doubt. these sorts demand absolute blind faith(in them)
Hey Emma, just to back you up with a bit of a correction: Dendrochronology does not involve living trees, but the matching of dead trees by the growth rate in the tree rings. Kent is right, that the Dendrochronological record does not go back 6,000 years.... it goes back 14,000 years.
Dendrochronology establishes a time line by delineating overlapping sequences of tree ring patterns beginning with living trees in the present and working backward through the past. Living trees are sampled by core boring, and they anchor the dendrochronology sequence in the present time.
@@donnievance1942 I’m learning so much in this comments section
Micro bores can be done on living trees, without harm, to determine their age. Lake varves give ages of sediment layers as well over 100,000 years and the Antarctic ice cores reveal almost 1m years. So much for a 6000 year old Earth.
@@tonydarcy1606 As a sometime forestry technician, I've core bored many trees for silvicultural purposes. The standard bore extracts a core about 1/4 inch in diameter and as long as the bore in use. The methodology is to aim the bore toward the center of the tree and optimally hit the inner-most ring. Most techs plug the bore hole with a splinter of wood or bark afterwards to keep out entering insects or pathogens. The tree will rapidly heal the wound over. It's just a little owie.
@@donnievance1942 you do the plant equivalent of a blood draw, that's excellent
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The ad Hovind and Powell repeated for free made me buy some Baphy merch. I’m a bit saddened the stickers are out of stock.
Please debate against the ex-convict, ken hovin, on the bible only, he won't do it because he only cherry 🍒 picking verses in the bible.
Crap=shit=manure=#2 is the same, is a word, only offend people get offended by word(s) but they have no problems using homophobic words.
I think the study says that people who swear tend to be more honest. But perhaps it was another study.
Where did you get that shirt? I'm obsessed!
First of your vids I've watched, and I'm impressed - thorougly enjoyed :)
Emma Thorne, I have recently discovered your channel and I simply love you. You're intelligent, logical, meticulous and savage in your analysis. Inspirational! Good work - keep it up!
I found this quite cathartic as well. I was religiously homeschooled for my entire childhood, and Kent's creationist videos were a staple growing up. I struggled a lot during that time, trying to balance meeting all the expectations placed on me as the perceived "eldest daughter" in a large religious family while trying to justify the dissonance that I experienced at every possible level due to my being (among other things) trans. One of the ways I tried to find escape was with science, at least what little I understood of it given my education and isolation from the real world. It was one of the few areas I had approved access to that didn't feel like a minefield of gender roles and familial expectations. I was so excited when one day my family went to hear Kent speak in person, I could not wait to actually meet one of the big "scientific" voices in my world and maybe even nerd out with him a little. When the moment finally came and I got to tell him how much I loved his videos and loved science, all he said to me was "what does your boyfriend think of that?" Bear in mind I was around 11 or 12 at the time, prepubescent. I don't remember much of the interaction after that, I was so dumbstruck and crestfallen to be dismissed like that. But I do know it did not improve from there and I walked away with my self confidence shaken and my first conscious experience of my own objectification. It wasn't all bad though, I developed an aversion to watching his videos after that and it helped kick off my journey away from that whole world.
"Satanists sacrificed babies"
Pretty sure the passover was a God thing.
Not to mention all the other plagues and flooding the Whole Fucking Planet to kill everyone and everything that didn't have gills.
I mentioned something in passing that was making Satanists look bad, and my sister-in-law asked, "didn't they sacrifice children?" So I said, "no, that was Christians." Later, when I was back home, I wondered if she and my brother understood me as "that was Christians that sacrificed the children" or "that was Christians that claimed Satanists sacrificed children." I meant the first, but both apply.
@@davecameron7348 And most of what did. Fish don't do well in waters of the wrong salinity. Freshwater fish would be fucked if they were put in the ocean, and saltwater would be as well in freshwater. There are a few exceptions, but most fish would die in a flood.
@@evilbob840 I was under the impression that satanists didn't care if they looked bad, at least those I met that claimed to follow such.
@@joshuaa7266 not enough freshwater to effect the oceans bad enough
The easiest and fastest way to become an Atheist is to watch less than 5 minutes of Kent Hovind !!! With people like Kent we would still be living in the stone age !! Emma you are amazing !! I subscribed after just watching one of your videos….. Keep them coming !!
I grew up watching every single one of Kent Hovind’s videos.
It’s strange to look back and remember what it felt like to be convinced that he was some sort of warrior of the Christian faith. Now I realize that he was just another part of my childhood that kept me believing the lies of a cult and denied me knowledge of the real world around me.
I’m glad you are making these videos Emma. Keep up the good work. Ik you are helping a lot of people with this kind of content.
While it is sad to hear you grew up like that, I'm glad you're free of this drivel now. I grew up that way, too. Just not with Kent.
@@willowthewendigo yeah I am too and I’m glad you escaped as well. Deconversion is a hard process but I’m in such a better place now
@@willowthewendigo creation testifys to a creator. Nothing begets more nothing , how can there be anything at all let alone the mass of diverse "things" we have in the first place it didn't come from nothingness
@@Guthix198 You do not know what you're talking about.
Unfortunately, there are still people out there that actually think Kent is doing "god's" work. It's ludicrous. So beating your wives, cheating on them as well as your taxes, and being rich as hell from untold amounts of lies is... God's work? Interesting.
You are the politest-looking and -sounding person I've ever seen on yt, which makes your swearing all the more hysterical. Please never change 💜💜💜
"Why all the Satanist imagery?" - "Because I'm a Satanist Kent " I fucking love that bit. I'm not a Satanist but I've argued with some of my family about how wrong they are about them in the past because they still believe dumb shit like they killed babies and whatnot. The church really did a good job of villifying people who haven't done anything wrong and just used imagery from one of mythologies most well known rebellious figures
The funny thing that these people believe in all the frightening stuff about satanists but they never ever tried to image the most lovely beings from their beloved fictional bible -- angels. I mean the way angels are depicted in bible :)
I do adore the idea of lucifer, or satan, or whoever (lmao) being the honorable, disenfranchised hero of the story, with god being the tyrannical villain, underneath the pro-god propaganda the story is drowning in.
@@ferociousfeind8538 so Paradise Lost
@@emeraldwarrior588 possibly? I'd have to look into it.
Any relation to Genesis: Paradise Lost, or...?
Only Christians can be Satanists.
Even when he's not swearing at people, the fact that he calls people names so casually, with the intent of doing emotional harm, is foul. The guy is foul mouthed.
Greg Locke does the same thing. It's so weird. Listened to him rant one time telling his congregation to stop using the "Let's go Brandon" phrase because it's a placeholder for bad words ("F*ck Joe Biden"). Yet he calls ppl he doesn't like shit like "limp wristed flibber noodlers." These guys are about as self aware as a rock.
@@ta13s93
They all use Christianity as a way to do harm onto others, but hide their cruelty behind religion.
@@burningmisery Yep. With how contradictory it is, you can make the bible teach just about any position, so when they, say, cherry pick verses to promote homophobia or bigotry in general it's bc they already felt that way before approaching the bible. The book is just a mask to hide behind. "Oh, you don't like that? Take it up with Gawd!" Nah, how about we take it up with you, imaginary friends aside.
@Akairo Kaminari LMFAO 🤣 for real tho. You nailed it.
@@ta13s93 Hey now, according to animistic traditions rocks could be home to very wise spirits. I'd sooner converse with and take advice from a rock. I'd lose less braincells even if I was brained on it than I would listening to those two abhorrent people.
Emma, I could not keep my cool dealing with such disingenuous people. You have my respect.
"All the fossils are the same age" made me spit out my coffee
Kent ignoring your challenges to a debate is a blessing tbh. He’s been in many public debates and none were in any way productive
Kent does not debate. Kent spews the same script no matter the topic
@@sallymayfield1874 he just wants to get on as many peoples channels as possible and attract a few gullble people each time, its all about the ROI, he can never admit he's wrong, he makes his living lying so he's only interested in collecting hits.
It's actually more than a little frustrating. I've heard people I like a lot I felt lose to him because they were saying smart things, but not addressing the nonsense he was spouting, thus allowing him to claim HE won.
No, no smart person would fall for it, but by letting him continue in his script he was not brought down the way someone might have if they were addressing his real way of arguing.
@@sallymayfield1874 truth doesn’t need to change. Evolutionists having to change what their religion says because it keeps being shown to be wrong
@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 : then by your logic, the fact that the bible describes several different covenants between god and humans proves the bible not to be true.
Thanks!
I just discovered your channel earlier this week and you have already skyrocketed to one of my top 5 favorite content creators. Thank goodness for people like you that fight the good fight against grifters like Kent Hovind. I can't believe that he still has any influence given his history. Thanks so much! Keep generating the great content.
Emma, I have literally thrown away 40 years of critical thinking and education and accepted Jesus as my....I can't even finish the joke it's so ridiculous. Thank you for your videos and conviction in challenging these whack-a-doodles and they're crack-pot theories.
Let me guess a western godless and souless person? Why only westerns say such things???
Welcome to the dark side. Enjoy our fine dinner of Occam's Razor. It is the foundation philosophy of science.
What is Occam’s razor?
Occam’s razor is the idea that when we try to explain a phenomenon (today or the past) or event (today or the past), we go for the most mundane explanation rather than one that involves extraordinary phenomenon or extraordinary animals or beings such as aliens or gods or alien-gods.
For example, some people have difficulty in believing that the Nazca geoglyphs were created as a cultural product, as symbols made by humans or maybe as symbols for their non existing gods.
Some claim that these are landing zones so that they would serve as a guide for the aliens. Erick Von Danicken offers us the alien version of the explanation. Perhaps he even suggests that the aliens came and guided the humans to build such things. According to him, how could the Nazca people make such 100 m to 150 m long drawings on the ground if they did not have help from a flying space ship people to help guide them from above ground.
Archaeologists reject this notion since it is an extraordinary claim. It is far more likely that they used a small scale drawing and they amplified it and they used visual techniques to draw it properly. Crop circle makers use the same kind of technique.
It is the same with crop circle makers. They claim that aliens did it.
From the POV of a scientist, ....nope. A human did it using standard, well known techniques.
Some claim that the Egyptian pyramids, the various megaliths in Europe and Asia Minor, statues at Easter Islands are made of gigantic stones and that primitive humans must have had help from aliens. Erick Von Danicken is one such person who makes such claims.
His problem is that he doesn’t know about primitive techniques that primitive humans could use and so, he reaches for the “aliens coming from other worlds” explanation.
Christians claim that Jesus’s followers were dumb uneducated people and ask, “How could they have written the New Testament?”.
Their answer is that some alien-god did his magic and gave them magical powers. This claim is even present in the Bible.
Muslims claim that Mohamed could not have come up with the Koran and claim that it came from an alien-god or alien-being or angel.
Mormons claim that Joseph Smith could not have come up with the Book of Mormon. Again, the claim is that some alien-god or a ghost of some kind did it.
Primitive humans claimed that someone was ill because some bad spirit, a devil entered his body.
Some of them claimed that lightning was done by some god. Or some natural disaster was done by some god.
Why don’t today’s meteorologists claim that their god is angry when there is a hurricane? Why do they collect data, predict where a hurricane will hit and inform the people if a disaster is coming?
Maybe it is bc they went to school and understood how the game of science is played and they understood nature.
When police detectives are doing an investigation on a murder, do they ever conclude that some angel, a god, alien devil did it? Nope, since they follow Occam’s razor.
Even if those police officers, those scientists are religious, mostly, they understand that they should not reach for extraordinary claims.
When you want to play the sport known as science, there is a fundamental rule that all parties must obey: Occam’s Razor. Go for the lame explanation, go for the mundane explanation, go for nature.
So when the question is about how life started, scientists look for the natural explanation. We don’t look for aliens and gods.
Who made the universe, who made the stars? In science, we don’t waste time with such questions. We look for evidence and the evidence is always naturalistic.
Religions invest a lot of time and money in building churches for their gods, but they never do research. if you don’t do research, how will you discover what the truth is?
Do research and brings us the evidence for your gods and aliens.
@@louistournas120 long story short: 🤓
@@Alpharelic Bang bang!
Thanks Emma for the insight, and for giving me the inspiration to fight what I see as injustice and cruelty of people like Hovind and Powell.
BTW kudos on that anti-Grail you’re drinking from. It’s a nice touch and I was disappointed to see that it wasn’t for sale at your store.
When I was a lot younger I actually fell for his rhetoric, the only saving grace (no pun intended) was that I never tried to push my beliefs onto anyone else. I’m so glad I woke up and left all those cult groups and am thankful that plenty of people are standing up against this bully.
Consider yourself respected, sir.
It is scientifically okay to say “I don’t know yet!” Being convinced that you are right and you know everything leads to being thought of as being narrow minded and not making amazing discoveries in your life.
Otherwise known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. 😁
@@jimhepworth not really
It always baffled me how Christians can be extremely hypocritical in that regard.
All throughout my Christian life a lot of people said often how atheists and scientists were extremely arrogant. They talked about how they asserted to know it all. They repeated over and over how arrogant they were for being "convinced" there was nothing out there. While they would speak with full confidence that a God exists and it was their version of said God.
Even when I believed, I always saw the hypocrisy in it, I was like "you are doing the same thing, you are condemming them for being closed minded, while you are proud to be close minded yourself"
It only became worse, when I realized that most atheists, and almost every scientist do not act that way. Most are willing to say "I do not know".
You're projecting what evilutionism zealots do.
Yes, that science changes and admits not know everything are it's strongest points. Yet, creationists grab on that as if it was bad.
Emma, you are so much stronger than I thought you were. When you first dug into Kent & Matt I thought, damn, I wonder if she knows what kind of hornets nest she just stepped into! But you rose above and shoved it down their bigoted throats. Great content!
Please take a moment and read:
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem
than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize.
Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel
are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it,
but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that
and therefore limit themselves.
After this more-general message, i wanna add:
Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like
Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man".
Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial
and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected
Religion and Science-Denial are. Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches.
I'm pretty sure you are the only RUclipsr I know that says "I'll put the link in the description" and actually includes the links in the description without fail. So many other RUclipsrs are like "hey there's this really cool thing, link is in the description" and then they proceed to leave it out of the description. Thank you for actually doing what you say you're gonna do LOL.
Also, spicy Emma Thorne is best Emma Thorne.
To be fair I often forget, there is a lot of work that goes into putting up a video and it takes me across multiple days, so others probably do the same!
Heavens to Betsy, your intro statement to those two absolute cabbages has single-handedly fed my soul for the next week. After all the straight-up disrespect he’s shown you, it was cathartic as heck to see you give such a strong response. Excellent, excellent work!
Just, wow.. I personally am a pretty hardcore atheist. I’m all about science and learning and all that sort of stuff and I love Emma’s videos. Sadly I’m also a bisexual dude that lives in Louisiana, sooo… Later on when I get over things like my social anxiety and actually start talking to people, I’d like to be genuine and honest. But people like Kent and Matt exist, so people I become friends with are at risk of wanting me dead cuz they’re that homophobic. Like the fuck?? Why should I have to worry about that stuff?? I’m lucky enough to have had very few experiences with people getting mad about my beliefs. But honestly if people like Matt Powell are somehow right, and people like him are “correct” I’d rather go to hell than be anywhere near someone like him.
That right there is evidence enough that these religions are made up stories promoting dichotomy and bigotry. Any hyper intelligent being would not be in the least concerned with an individual's sexuality. How they conducted themselves maybe but even that's petty in the grand scheme of things. If you're kind to others and yourself, if you are aware and open to evidence based change then you are awesome Hayden. You are the future we need and I love you for that. Be you my dude. Be awesome and know you are powerful.
I'd suggest you just move to Canada but we have the same issues as the usa. Canada hides it under the rug really well :/ we should invade Denmark
dude, be proud of who you are!
I'm very impressed by the other guy in the Matt Powell audio clip. He was managing to stay calm, yet assertive, against someone actively becoming unhinged. Props to them.
I love how positive the comments are. Honestly, I was afraid to scroll through them. Proud of this group!!
Emma, you are a hero. Those two only preach lies and hatred. Thank you for showing them that it is not acceptable in our society. You have my undying respect.
@Just Joe You are absolutely right, but they are disagreeing in the most hateful ways imaginable.
@Just Joe You're a person of very low moral character for defending Hovind.
@Just Joe spouting hate is
@Just Joe Advocating for the death of homosexuals, as she demonstrates that Matt Powell does in this video, DOES equal hatred.
Preach what lie’s give me an example?
You are way stronger than I, dealing with these toxic people in any capacity.
Regarding Kent's idea of an intelligent creator: For me, every notion of intelligent creation goes out the window once you realize that a significant amount of people die every year because their immune system identified a harmless substance as a threat and killed them.
Spend 10 minutes thinking about ways to make humans more efficient and you'll realize either we're a collection of genetic tinkering and evolution, or the intelligent creator wasn't that smart
@@hersheywallawhy the fuck does the appendix consistently explode and kill people 💀
@@unoriginal2552I would say for population control but it does a shit job of it. So probably an idea from Hovind's god.
and as for a single god, this world is far too much of a jumble of random bullshit for a single guy to be in charge of it all. zeus, dagda, and every other pantheon have the excuse that multiple powers are at play against each other. ywyh has no such excuse (in the new belief systems, the original god was a minor deity).
@@comyuse9103 Fr tho. For YHWH (you messed up the characters' name but it's whatever it's not like he's gonna smite you or anything) it's like a 13 y/o just came up with random shit and called it a holy text.
One more thing. Kent did save me. Saved me from the destructive life, I would have had, if I believed in what he is saying. So thanks bro!!. You're a real pal. 😊
"Wait until judgement and see how that works out for you" Notice how he slipped that in when he was reaching maximum agitation. The good old threat of infinite punishment for a finite crime with that "crime" being not believing because there is no fucking evidence. What a loving religion.
Bravo Emma, well done. You crushed them with honesty, rationality and reason.
You are unworthy.
Love me or I'll burn you.
If I punish you it's because you forced me to. It's your choice.
These words are the words of an abuser. The Abrahamic god is modelled after the abusive men that made him up and used to justify their reprehensible behaviors and control others.
There's no hate like Christian love.
@@EricLDunn Yup. We're all born sinners apparently. Isn't that just lovely.
@@burningmisery absolutely. Isn't it glorious.
I can help but watch "hey he's right, better get saved" over and over again. Freaking hilarious, +2 points.
The way she said "A criminal crime!" at around 27:45 almost made me spit out my drink
Maybe we Atheists really *are* moral monsters
Few are. There's more monsters in institutions ( whether religious or not) because of the "got your back" mentality. Favour-generating.
“Satanists kill people!”
Um… He has read the bible right?
You have the restraint and composure of a true academic. I am well aware that my lack thereof will forever prevent me from debating "people" like him. You are a model human being.
Make me believe Atheist are right!
What is a geological column?
Can you show me at least one fossil for evolution?
If Gators 🐊 live millions of years ago with dinosaurs 🦕 why haven’t there “kind”evolved?
Like walking in two legs or even flying with wings like the dragons or something.
If you can give me genuine answer’s for those question I’ll become an Atheist!
But I want real proof like pictures!
@@oraciorobles3328 No, thanks. We prefer critical thinkers in our ranks to mindless dogma parrots.
@@oraciorobles3328 why are you asking for pictures over a youtube comment section? Do you not know how this works? The information is readily available and accessible so if you haven't looked at it on your own accord, you have no intention of questioning your beliefs and are as dishonest as the people who fooled you.
Completed my MA in psychology back in 1992 and wrote a thesis as part of my degree. PowerPoint wasn't a thing and we were absolutely required to provide references as part of our research. All accredited universities and colleges in the United States require the same. Hovind is full of it if he asserts otherwise.
Hovind has so little idea of the literary and technical standards of a scholarly thesis, that he doesn't even know why he should be embarrassed by the piece of garbage he produced. Both he and Powell are way lowbrow ignoramuses and sociopaths to boot. Hovind's idea that his thesis could be supported by references and citations in video productions that he doesn't even mention in the thesis, shows that the very concept that a thesis must be self-supporting is completely absent from his mental repertoire. Intellectually, he's an armpit-scratching hillbilly, like most evangelical preachers and apologists.
Mans thinks the world is 6000 years old he's definitely not going to reconcile the time when PowerPoint came along lol
@@MxPdog too true! It's obvious he has no use for facts or research. All that matters is his subjective view.
@@MxPdog Fair point. Bigger problems. Am I rite?
Actually PowerPoint came out in 1990, so he could have actually used it, but I don’t think that many people would have seen it on the radio show that his book was based on (that his dissertation was based on). 😜
I was a writing tutor at a small Liberal Arts college. When students came to see me after failing in composition 101 assignments, the work they brought me was often better composed and always more convincing that Kent's dissertation/book. The idea that people are going to be converted by reading or hearing his writing is beyond laughable.
May i recommend some atheist-youtubers?
I wanna spread atheism a bit, that's why.
It's a bit like the "idiot filter" that spammers use. If you're smart enough to realize how ridiculous it is, you aren't a mark that they want.
@@nenmaster5218 If you wish.
@@emmafrost3115 Very true. There's a built-in limit to how low you can go with someone who chooses to get a real education.
I never liked Hovind, but I stopped listening to people debunking him completely because of how repetitive it got. I legitimately believe Hovind is beyond any reasoning or saving, he is so arrogant, dishonest, disrespectful, delusional, narcissistic, and brain dead that it actually makes me angry. I’ll be skipping this video but not because I don’t like Emma Thorne (On the contrary, I respect her tolerance for this idiot’s BS).
I have to admire your patience and persistence in taking it even this far.
Just the thought of a 45,000 slide powerpoint deck by Kent Hovind made me literally die instantly
xDDDD
thankfully there isnt enough ram in the world for that
That is not how "literally" works.
@@Tcrror they're dead and buried now chris you can't correct them anymore
If you literally died you couldn't have left your comment.
The word you're looking for is "figuratively".
Words actually mean things.
Kent Hovind has made a tidy living distorting language. Please be better than him.
Hovind was literally my jumping off point to doubting 30+ years of Christianity.
@Mark’s Conplaystasy I did at one point
@Mark’s Conplaystasy I was raised in Kent Hovind's bullshit since I was 6 years old, I was homeschooled, and raised in a cult for 16 years. I believed it at one point because it's all I was taught.
@@sassylittleprophet Kudos to you for setting yourself free! Starting over in life takes enormous courage. People like you, dedicated to finding your own authenticity, are inspirational to me, and countless others. Thankyou for sharing. :)
@@daniellamcgee4251 "starting over in life" -- you have no idea. I left all of it: the cult, my now ex-husband, my family, I even moved 2 hours away. I discovered I'm a lesbian and came out to my homophobic family, and I've recently cut ties with them as well, because there's no point of keeping that toxicity/abusive-ness in my life.
And belief wise, honestly it's because I took my faith so seriously that I studied too much to see the inconsistencies and hypocrisy, both in the Bible and in the people claiming to follow it. I couldn't understand how they could still cling so tightly to beliefs that were so damaging to others. What was the point in believing something if it didn't inspire you to become a better person?
@@sassylittleprophetJeepers!!! I had a small idea, that's why I knew your comment was just the tip of the iceberg, and wanted to acknowledge that. Yes, your story IS HUGE!!!
I am an ex-Jehovah's Witnesses ally (never a JW myself), and they, on leaving the cult are 'shunned' by all their family and whole community, and lose all they have ever known. But they find themselves.
It's the same extreme homophobia in the JWs. Ex-JWs find genuine relationships with 'worldly' people who love them for who they are. The ex-JWs are quite a strong supportive community, too.
I probably gravitated towards ex-JWs because I can relate a little bit personally. I have also travelled far from my family, and had to find the truth about myself away from the toxicity.
I have also divorced, and realised late that a relationship is unlikely to work for me with a man. ( I am pan, and demi-sexual, though). My family is not homophobic at all, but there are other major stifling issues. I have contact with some of them now, though - from afar!
I understand that it's different for you in that the foundation has completely dropped out of the bottom of your world, because you dared to be honest with yourself, and your family including your husband.
Many religious zealots read and memorise, but they don't have the courage to be really open- minded and deeply think about what they are reading in their religious texts. You had that extraordinary courage. You have that integrity, resilience and will-power to make those seismic changes, and want to keep growing as a person. That's why you are hugely inspirational to me!
It's important that people read about the damage these religions do, and for people who are currently emersed, to understand how you got out. It wasn't evil 'worldly' people leading you astray. It was study of the religious teachings and texts themselves.
I can't ever fully understand how it is for you, but I have lived and learned enough to have more appreciation than most, of the enormity of what the words 'starting over' means for you.
I hope you have been able to start forming your family of choice, with people who love you unconditionally, and that you are fully appreciating your freedom. (Albeit during a pandemic!)
Sorry for all the words, I struggle to be succinct!
Brand new follower here, loving the content and presentation so far. Keep going!
Emma, you are great! Whenever I watch one of your videos, my faith in humanity is renewed. Please keep going after these false prophets.
I only did a master's dissertation, but listening to him talk about why it's ok there were no references because his dissertation was a copy of a series of lectures that were referenced is maddening. Assuming you could just transcribe your lectures as a dissertation, you'd still need to reference everything!! My friend got into a plagiarism tribunal for writing something too similar to her own work because it wasn't referenced as such.
Even just a reference of "references in the PowerPoint that you can find here" would be something!
Before he got out of prison, he tried to arrange a debate with me. I managed to shut him down by telling him I'd only do it for full revenue sharing.
Your vid on his letter to you was very telling. Your deconstruction of his intention to use you for his own gains was fantastic.
PZ. We can do it on your channel and you keep all the revenue. You offer the very best evidence you have for evolution and I get equal time to rebut. Once you get tired of defending your first evidence you may go on to your second best etc. Call 855-big dino ext 3 to schedule a debate on your channel or Emma's.
@@dr.kenthovind4742 not Dr Hovind, you were sprung a while again when you falsely claimed you had debated PZ Myers. Your li3s catch up with you Kent.
@@dr.kenthovind4742 I heard your dissertation being read. In my country you wouldn't be able to get any school diploma above age 12 with that.
Is there any reason besides bread and butter that keeps you stuck in that rut?
@@dr.kenthovind4742 lips service ! Kent you have really hurt the cause of Christ. Your moral character is greatly lacking ! When God say He hates divorce what does that mean to you. You stated many times that you believe the whole Bible. Kent do you believe that part of the Bible
Great job Emma. I was shocked at how good the whole thing was. I looked at the time and thought to myself "There's no way I'm gonna watch it all". ...........
55 minutes later. Holy crap this was good. Keep up the good work.
Please take a moment and read:
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem
than most Causal Watchers of any given channel realize.
Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel
are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it,
but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that
and therefore limit themselves.
After this more-general message, i wanna add:
Youtuebr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like
Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute,
while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning
to "flood the Office with his Man".
Both RUclipsrs added to each other without realizing, both fighting Science-Denial
and fighting for people to notice more how deeply, deeply connected
Religion and Science-Denial are.
Please go and watch and take big Note of both their End-Speeches.
Sorry for this long comment!!
ditto
Thanks for another great video, Ms. Thorne. ❤
Thanks for your content Emma! Also I gotta say I grew up a very conservative and traditional Christian until I saw a Kent Hovind video. That set me on the path to learning more about science and Christianity until I became an atheist. Now I’m an out trans lesbian. It brings me so much joy that Kent started me on that road and I’m now everything he fears.
Oh that is BEAUTIFUL i love this
Christians don't fear atheist they don't want anyone to spend eternity in hell apart from God's gory. That is why they try to get atheist to see the truth we are created in God's image we did not evolve from monkeys.
Gen 1:16
god makes the stars after the earth
Job 38:6
stars sang when god made the earth
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livestock can develop stripes by looking at striped sticks:
Genesis 30:37-40 (NIV)
"37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban’s animals."
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@@whatabouttheearth that last one is hilarious it sounds like my 6 year old nephew playing with his toys
I became an Atheist because of the following:
1) I refuse to worship a god that hates me for being myself and is less mature than me, even though I am, legally speaking, a Child.
2) People like Kent Hovind and Matt Powell and their hateful, "Christian Love".
3) I read a long series of Science Textbooks because my Teachers would Preach bigoted, Religious nonsense instead of Science or History.
4) Christianity and other religions are boring but being myself is much more fun.
Also, Matt Powell is one of the most disgusting Monsters I've ever seen, that clip of him screaming was giving me flashbacks of my Father...
Love the Video Emma.
*(EDIT: Wow, Didn't expect this much attention. Also ignore the mess in the replies would you kindly)*
I became an atheist because of the following:
1) I turned 12 years old and was able to determine religion was toxic and a huge scam.
2) #1 was all I needed to become an atheist
To me it was the constant hypocrisy. "God loves you, God has a plan for you. Everything happens because God intended it". I was with a disability that 20 years later, causes excruciating pain. If God loves me, why should it be that I myself have to conform to his strict, so hyper specific standards that seems to differ with every Christian, even biblical liberalists, and, why is it that he made me to be queer (sequality not found, still figuring that mess out) and trans.
And the fact that Christians can't simply say "I don't know" if the question is super complex.
I don't know where I lie with religion, but im not Christian because of all of what I mentioned.
@@clarkkent1521 Well It started for me when I was very young, so it was that but each reason one could use played a role.
@@DeathProductions200 that was another thing for me, yes
Abiogenesis is a Failure
Two cannibals are eating a clown, one turns to the other a asks "Does this taste funny to you?"- Codsworth
His "dissertation" is the worst written pile of tripe I've had the misfortune to read, and I've read Atlas Shrugged.
When I was (11? 12?) Kent Holvind came and gave his young earth creationist seminar at a local church and you better believe my evangelical parents took us, ate it up and used his “defenses” for these views for YEARS. I have to tell you as an adult that’s healing up from all other kinds of related abuses at the hands of those for whom the church was a negative influence THESE videos are just so exactly perfect. Thanks for putting this content out 💜
Gen 1:16
god makes the stars after the earth
Job 38:6
stars sang when god made the earth
🙄
livestock can develop stripes by looking at striped sticks:
Genesis 30:37-40 (NIV)
"37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban’s animals."
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@Kent Hovind OFFICIAL Kent, feel free to call a psychiatrist. You are wrong on just everything.
Don't you know that as good as all Christians in Europe consider evolution a fact and silly Young Earth Clown cults like yours nothing else but an embarrassment for actual Christianity?
@Kent Hovind OFFICIAL nobody has that much time to waste.
@Kent Hovind OFFICIAL I'd cite every single debate in which you say we think we came from rocks. I just finished binging AronRa and he made a compilation. It's kind of disingenuous to keep saying that for as many years as you have, even when everyone you debate contradicts it. You are the reason I'm starting to take more interest in reaffirming my scientific beliefs, Mr. Hovind.
"We love people, that's why we call them f**s" wow yes this makes so much sense /s
I had to watch this in little bits because Kent and Matt are infuriating human beings. Thanks for taking the time to break down their rhetoric (or lack thereof). You have way more patience than I.
Well you see, they "love"people the same way their god "loves" his children- by making their lives a living hell, then condemning them to eternal hell if they step out of line.
I watched the dissertation steam and I realized he was completely right. It is true and indisputable. His name *is* Kent Hovind.
That was probably the first thing he learned at university, hence why it’s the first thing in his daisy wheel printout of his “dissertation”.
I could barely pay attention to the first few minutes because I was obsessing over how symmetrical the print on your shirt is. It’s even symmetrical on the sleeves.
“The internets lying grandpa” seriously laughed at that. Great video!
Hello my name is not Kent Hovind. I participated in the livestream reading of his wonderfully articulated dissertation and it convinced me to get saved. Those lying atheists in the livestream chat could not refute any of his arguments.
He is so intelligent and also would never beat my wife-- I mean his wife.
Hey Emma, I love your content and especially the Kent series. Thanks for making this content, really brightens my day and I also think atheist content like this is super valuable.
I used to watch vids like this back in the first wave of atheist youtube before most of them went off the rails into "anti SJW" and other rightwing nonsense. Its soo nice to have a new generation of sceptics to watch who are actually fighting the real fight once again
@@WhichDoctor1 Same, it was at the time upsetting, but now it's been weirdly comforting to know that not being religious doesn't exempt one from falling into information silos. Which as someone who does try to take a rational approach to my life but is still religious was a helpful thing during a formative time.
I never liked Hovind, but I stopped listening to people debunking him completely because of how repetitive it got. I legitimately believe Hovind is beyond any reasoning or saving, he is not worth any human being’s precious time. He is so arrogant, dishonest, disrespectful, delusional, narcissistic, and brain dead that it actually makes me angry. I’ll be skipping this video but not because I don’t like Emma Thorne (On the contrary, I respect her tolerance for this idiot’s BS).
@@chriscortez2036 I totally understand. Thats actually the reason I tailed off watching Jimmy Snow, there's only so many times I can watch the same person debunk the same arguments from the same people. This is my first Hovind dunking in like 10 years though, I am amazed he's still going. but its literally indistinguishable from the ones I remember from before. He sounds exactly the same, he makes the same nonsenical arguments, he repeats lies he's had proven to be lies to his face, he insults and belittles his adversaries in exactly the same ways. Its quite astonishing. But he's still there and still having people listen to him. So I'm grateful there is a new generation of sceptics ensuring that when someone googles his name most of the search results will be people pointing out what a piece of excrement he is.
@@chriscortez2036 I enjoy seeing the content, but I havnt seen a lot of Kent Hovind beforehand, so I might just not be burnt out yet. He does seem delusional and honestly I think its great you moved on from content that you got tired off, its not always easy to tune it out so props to you
I like how his defense for his dissertation is basically "I didn't actually write a dissertation, I just repurposed a seminar"