Old MTB Converted to a Comfort Bike using Shimano CUES 1x 9speed drivetrain parts. TURNED OUT GREAT!
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2024
- Ever since I heard about the Shimano CUES components I've wanted to buy the cheapest 1 x 9 speed parts and convert an older mountain bike into an upright, general purpose, all around town, comfort bike for regular people. It's just so much easier to use one shifter to access the same wide range of gears, so why not. So, I FINALLY got my hands on some parts and snagged a perfect candidate from the local bike charity and got to work. I really stuggled quite a bit along the way, but the end result was fantastic! PLUS!!! BONUS WHEELIES!
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This is the Bob Ross of the bicycle world and exactly the YT channel I’ve been looking for.
hell yeah
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There's currently an Epic Paris-Nice bicycle race happening(Stage 5 today!)... And Bicycle Farmer is still THE BEST BICYCLE CONTENT ON RUclips!! Converting a Triple Triangle📐GT to a 1×9 with new Shimano Tech... IT Doesn't get any Better than That!!🙂 Especially with Bk Frmr supplying the Laughs!!😂 Love the takes on everything bike and beyond. This "Struggle Bus" episode made me feel good about my own "mechanic" fumblings(re-packed front wheel bearings on my Specialized HardRock last month!!). Watching all the way through and liking... Will consider subscribe/donation when business picks up this month... THANK you for a great😃 channel!!🙏
Oh Yeah😅... Happy Birthday 🎉 Bike Farmer!!!
I couldn't have said it better, it definitely had that vibe.
I appreciate you showing the parts that didn't go smooth. So many bike repair vids have everything go miraculously perfect every time. You don't know how many times I have struggled with the chain master link not popping on easily or how many times I have dropped and lost parts. I was right there with you. Enjoying the channel!
37:30 the wrench getting bounced around by the wheel is hilarious
totally. I love seeing that shit during the edits. So dumb.
Bike Co-ops, where you meet "mechanics" that know so much that just isn't so. Stopped by one to grab an old derailleur and drop off a car load of used parts from our shop. A kid renting a work stand was trying to put a standard BSA 24tpi BB into a vintage Raleigh (26tpi). I instructed him that he needed a 26tpi bb. The "experience mechanic volunteer" told me I was wrong and told me not to give instructions until I take their training course. Guess my over a decade of professional experience at the time and multiple industry certifications didn't account for anything. He then turned back to that guy and helped him make a mess. I wish that was the only example. The same Co-op volunteers used to stop by my buddy's shop not far away and undercut repair quotes to customers IN HIS SHOP.
I know the overall outreach and goal of Co-ops is good, but I'd rather hire a mechanic with no shop experience with the willingness to learn than someone who learned everything the know from a Co-op. Last one we hired cost us so much in terrible repairs that damaged our reputation and nearly caused legal trouble.
i never realized it until now but it must be an awesome feeling knowing that almost every bike you see in your town was either built or serviced by you lol
...or they are out of a Trek employee's garage
"Yesterday I didn't know how to spell inchinier today I is one!"
I find it cool that you don't edit out the struggles. I think they create the best teaching moments in your videos. And they are entertaining.
CUES was new to me and I definitely keep them in mind.
I volunteer at our coop and that helps me honing my skills.
I really appreciate this feedback. I found myself watching @rosastringworks videos and watching Jerry, a very skilled craftsman, struggle with some seemingly routine tasks, and always appreciated he just let the camera run while he expressed frustration and laughed at himself because, it just isn't that hard!
And I just learned that Mountain Dew with real sugar is a thing!
Ironically this was genuinely my first Bike Farmer video! Keep up the good work Brother.
As big guy(300lbs) in south Texas tubeless was a game changer. I would make sure I always had two spares tubes on me for any ride over my usual 5mile commute. Goat heads and mesquite thorns were the bane of my tires. After going tubeless and doing my first fluid top up I ran my hands along the inside of the tire. 8! I counted 8thorns, on a single tire, just happily sticking 1/16-1/8in through the tire. I left them be and filled’er up, I’ll never look back.
I had a bike like this in the ‘90s when I was in college. Loved that bike. I hope the person that stole it has taken care of it and maybe fixed it up like this on.
Happy Birthday Bike Farmer!
I love CUES. Durability and price is way more important than weight to me.
Durability and price for sure. Weight can be saved for free by riding more to get in better shape. Well, if you have a few extra pounds to lose like I do.
@@MoosteryI like the way you think and I totally agree! Following your logic, I've made my bike almost 40 lbs lighter over the last year.
@@thatcarguy1UZ my bike seems to gain and lose weight regularly. I think it eats too much home made food around holiday times personally.
@@Moostery True. I am more concerned about the extra 100lbs of rider weight my bike has than a couple pounds of extra steel.
CUES frustrates me immensely, because of the way that it ignores the 35 year history of shared pull ratios in the majority of Shimano drivetrains through 9 speed mountain and 10 speed road, and even more so the standard cog spacing and chain interchangeability for those speeds.
Now when you need a new chain or cassette, there's a needless additional question required: What 9 speed do you have? What 10 speed do you have? The old stuff will never go away, and in all likelihood will outlast CUES as a system.
While I agree with reducing the compatibility issues, I definitely do not I see the benefit (aside from padding Shimano's pockets) of making new 9, 10, and 11 speed groupsets that all share the same spacing and chain.
Why even bother with 9 and 10 when you have to have the same spacing (i.e. cassette cogs) and chain as 11 speed? It's not like the extra 1-2 sprockets on the cassette cost very much, and the extra ratchet points on the shifter literally cost nothing extra because they're just molded into a piece of plastic.
It gives Shimano a way to differentiate drivetrain price levels at minimal cost to them; I get it. But at what cost to the consumer? This policy just encourages waste of old components that are otherwise good, but not up to the latest standard. (Yes, I know BikeFarmer and others will save old components to use them, but many do not.)
CUES 9 speed has the same increased sensitivity to derailleur hanger misalignment as 11 speed. Same for 10 speed.
OTOH, CUES cable pull - Shimano 11/12 speed is 1.1:1 at the derailleur - is less susceptible to adjustment issues than old 1.7:1 9 speed.
The one benefit of 9 speed CUES is less crosschain angle versus the 11 speed CUES or SIS 9 speed. That's a good thing I guess, but it seems like a paltry one compared to taking 35 years of history and throwing it out the window.
So if we look at the CUES components themselves again, why are there different speeds shifters? Since the cog spacing is the same for the whole range, an 11 speed shifter would cost the same to manufacture and work for 9, 10, and 11 speeds. But that wouldn't allow Shimano to charge more for more speeds.
Why are there different derailleurs for CUES 9 and 10/11? The pull ratio is the same. You want different cage lengths, and you want the parallelogram angle to match the cog tooth diameter profile, but neither of those are directly dependent on the number of speeds. And why are there different 9 and 10/11 speed CUES front derailleurs!? If the 10/11 speed ones can't work satisfactorily with the 9 speed, they're doing something wrong.
All I see is a cash grab with CUES.
Why are riveted chainrings still a thing? And even worse, proprietary BCD patterns that you can't even drill out to mount a new ring on? Do we still need to be throwing crank arms in the garbage when the chainrings wear out in 2024? Yes, I know they're steel and will last a long time. Most will probably never be replaced.
I have been a Shimano customer for a long time, but any new sub-11 speed drivetrain I build is going to get Microshift now if it isn't legacy Shimano, friction shift, or IGH. At least I can actually use a 9 speed chain on those 9 speed drivetrains.
I appreciate the comments that the bike was "put together by an engineer" now you a mechanic has to fix it! In my old workshop we had a saying " Engineers make things. Mechanics make things work!"
I ride mountain bikes and have tubeless set ups on each of my 3 bikes. I find no problems with it, but I have developed a method of working over the years. There are many rocks etc here so I also run cushcore inserts - again no problems, but I am practised in fitting them. However, my road touring bikes I run tubes because that is more appropriate for that style of riding.
One part at a time, I’m working on making my old mtb more commute friendly. My new handlebars with a nice sweep just arrived today. This video was just the thing to give me the confidence I need to dive in. Thank you for what you do, Bike Farmer!
Thanks, your cable routing problem made me understand my cable routing ( XT derrailleur) was wrong.
It was very helpful.
Great GT restoration by the way
32:42 The brakes commentary at the bottom was great 😂
You had me at 'I was at my local bike co-op yesterday'. ❤
So I saw the "YOUR BIKE SUX" video and initially I was like, HMPH... Then I realized you give really solid advice and I actually love the kind of work you're doing. Keep on keeping on!
Gotta love Shimano... old / new, Cheap / $$$, it just works.
Working in a bike shop fixing bikes while watching another long haired bearded mechanic fixing bikes........My world is weird.
I come home from a hard day working in a bike shop fixing bikes and watch another guy fix bikes to unwind. We’re cut from a weird cloth 😂
@@Sooperhans3636 That makes three of us.
Me too. It’s my day off though 😂
Does it count if I have short hair and only work on mine and close friends bikes because I haven't made it in a shop yet...I have a beard though
I am so glad the algorithm has brought me to your channel. I have been buying a few 26" mtbs for cheap on Facebook marketplace and I think I am going convert one using Ques. I have also started working at a non profit bike shop as a volunteer just to get back into the bike maintenance world. I have never worked in a bike shop but since 1985 I have always taken care of my own bikes and I rarely if at all take my bikes to a shop. So when I volunteer I am not totally clueless and with your no-nonsense channel bringing me up to speed all the better. Now to go through your videos and give you some more Likes.
Great video! It is important for people to understand that this conversion would not have been possible without that new "clutch-style"" derailleur. That, and the "narrow-wide" chaining are crucial to the 1 x set-up. Otherwise, the chain would fall off every time you hit a big bump. I road a GT "Karokorum" similar to this bike around Europe in the 1990s. The super stiff "triple-triangle" frame makes it a joy to ride. It is wonderful to see this old bike brought back to life! It is infinitely higher quality than a "Walmart-bike" at a similar price range.
While watching the first half of the video I thought: “man, I want to start collecting old frames and wheels so I can refurb them with these new Cues groupsets.” After watching you fuck with the brakes for all that time I was shocked back into reality.
I thoroughly enjoy your video's, especially the fact that you don't hide problems. I do get a kick out of your struggle with pain in the ass rim breaks, but I do understand how they fit your business model. Most of your affordable donor bikes will have them. You produce bikes that are perfect for your clientele. Great channel...Love how you have mellowed over time.
My comfort bike is a 27.5” We the People bmx bike. I never could master finding the right gears to use so ended up quitting riding after I grew out of 20” BMX bikes. The trend of larger simple BMX bikes got me riding again.
I really enjoy watching you disassemble, assemble, adjust, and ride your bikes! Oh ya......Happy Birthday!
That frame is sweet looking. The color combination is awesome
I'm not a professional but i found this very entertaining . Nice build and great job improvising
Just rebuilt my first mountain bike with CUES. It had been sitting around unused for nearly 2 years and I wanted to bring it back to life. Bike runs great and now I have a 2nd bike a friend can ride.
Happy Birthday! (Probably belated, but hey hopefully you'll get to see this the next time your birthday rolls around!)!
In Europe you can get those handlebars by German company called "Ergotec" (formerly known as Humpert). They manufacture localy and have different "safety" levels for use and rider weights. Zeitbike from Ventura/CA is the US distributor.
Ergotec is amazing quality price for city handlebars
I love that you show not getting everything right. That what life is all about. ❤
Yer enthusiasm is contagious on this one!
I learned to work on sewing machines back in my teen years ago, and of course I learned through trial and error to work on my bicycle and did it for lots of other kids. I wish I could have learned more about fixing bikes back then, I probably would have but I really messed my back up years ago and had to stop riding. It's been almost 40 years since I last rode a bike. Four months ago I bought an E-Bike after trying a friends out. I discovered that it doesn't cause all the pain riding my Giant of years ago. I've racked up 800 miles and it has improved my balance and overall health a lot! I'm enjoying watching your RUclips channel and loving learning from you! We have a pretty big bike ride that comes through my small town every spring, it was last month. Many of the riders come through the alley that my shop is in, I have a good air compressor that I use, I add four outside air lines for them to use. I'll never be able to ride with them but next year I'm going to meet them on the edge of town and ride along with them to my shop. I'm adding bike tools to my collection so maybe I'll be able to offer them a little more help!
I love the smooth jazz in the background and you even kinda look like me, albeit a slimmer version with glasses. 😅
I've built up 3 GT's in the past, 90's Karakoram with updated XT parts and a new fork, also 90's GT Pulse track frame with full Dura Ace + Phil Wood bb and a GT LTS-2 full squish. So I have a soft spot for these. ❤
Currently planning a 1x9 conversion on a '00 Trek 6000 I picked up for $40 to build as a commuter. That brought me to your channel. Love the rambling and building a normal person bike, not a $7k 2027 model with all new parts.
Subscribed. 🙏
Happy birthday. Lovely build. Seeing you work it out is inspiring for us dumbos who have virtually no idea.
Top tip from a fellow wrench. Cloth tape sucks, it’s too thick. I ditched it a couple seasons ago after noticing how much harder it makes mounting tighter (cheap and stiff) tires. I started using Stan’s or Muc-Off tubeless tape instead. It sticks better and is much thinner. Buy the big shop, bulk rolls in a few widths. I only use it on double wall rims, like you said, rubber rim strips are the way to go on single wall.
I also wanted to say that I know that stroking out that feeling all too well. You gotta take time to take care of yourself. Eat snacks and stay hydrated. The bonk is real! Good luck this season, keep up the good work!
I have one particular double wallled rim a 26er Rhynolite that has this exact problem where Cloth Tape is too thick to the point its on the fringes with multible tire combos. I have had so many people insist that the thickness of tape doesn't matter, and they haven't fought with this particular rim.
40:12 This is my first ever BikeFarmer video and I am having a blast! It's hard to believe you've been doing this for years, but I am so grateful for sharing this video with us! I love your positive energy, I have to watch other videos, too! I've never seen anyone sand paint off a rim, that's a great tip! Keep the good work up man, you just gained a subscriber.
I laughed out loud when right after all the bungles, the rear wheel snatched the allen wrench from you!
Happy birthday to you. Beautiful video. I love seeing all the pieces flying around like mine.
Great job! In honor of your birthday, I took a shot every time you dropped something.
The funny thing is, lots of tubeless guys will just use a tube to fix their flats! 😂
Been there, done that.
Took forever to pull all the thorns and other sharp bits out of the tyre to make sure the tube didn't instant flat.
I still carry a tube for longer rides but yrs later I've yet to get a flat that I couldn't fix with a plug on my tubeless setups 🎉
@@LaurentiusTriariusyea, plugs seem like a good solution too. Bikes are taking lots of notes from cars these days 😉
Yes, this is mi first BikeFarmer video! :D
Nice, love a good bikefarmer vid ! Ride Safe everybody
Nice! I like how you pretended to struggle with basic wrenching in this video to make it more approachable! HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Happy Birthday! Perfect commuter/everyday bike build!
I love that frame design and colors!
This type of content is really calming and interesting to watch.
Very good project ,great video and Happy Birthday !!!
Fun to watch, nice job, and happy Bday from Madison!
I started out at a bike co-op too. The things you learn, and learn not to do. Most people who haven't worked at a bike co-op don't know the past few decades of compatibility/incompatibility. When most of what you look at is enthusiast-level stuff made in the past 10 years, it's a trial by fire. But the lack of Shimano/SRAM compatibility in 6-8 speed should be an easy one.
I have a 10 speed cues and I remember adjusting the darned thing. It was hard but once you get everything working, buttery smooth.
Love the GT action in trek country. Great informative and humorous video. That new group looks solid for the price point
Dork disc to the rescue, hahaha, you crack me up 🙂
8:38 Hey, I'm an engineer, and I know very well that "oil is a half mechanic by itself"!
Happy belated Birthday Bike Farmer!
Hope you had a great day.
Happy belated birthday. The new generation is super cool glad you caught it as well
Happy birthday man!!
Awesome ideas 😎👌
Love this. Repurposing an old bike and it’s not proprietary!
Happy Birthday brother man. Great video as always
I returned my 2003 GT Idrive to be a comfort bike today. Before retiring it as a mountain bike, I packed the Idrive mechanism with JB WELD along with all the other worn out pivots! A pipe replaced the shock spring! Actually, I put it away in fairly good shape. Today it got 1 1/2" 26 inch slicks, put the old saddle back on. The crankset is set up with 20-32-34 as a 1x and 12- 42 8 speed cassette. No front derailleur, brake lever, or front brake. It actually looks and runs well in this configuration. It's my only bike that works with my Bob style Yakima trailer. In a pinch, you could pick up the chain and run 20x42 or 20x36 gearing, but not much smaller cassette cog. Could also do easier gravel on this.
26 x 1.5 is my least favorite tire size!
Great video again and...Happy Birthday!!! 😊
Happy Birthday man!
I have a similar setup to that bike. 26x1.95 and swept bars. SUPER comfortable.
The trainspotter dude reference got me. Love your style man 👍
Happy belated birthday =)
Just found your channel today and I like it a lot. Keep up the good work.
I found this old mtb bike at my job and using Alixexpress parts, turned it from triple crank 6 speed to a 1X 10 speed. Entire expenditure was less than 100 dollars. This is going to be the new thing. What's old is new. Especially with the ridiculous prices of bikes today. I still ride my 15+ yr aluminum frame 10 speed road bike and my 9 speed mtb to gravel conversion.
I don’t know why you complain about setting up discs either. When I finally upgraded I was blown away by how ridiculously easy they were to get good enough. Maybe 10minutes Lea ring how they worked and another 5 to get the other one going. Did it on QR as well, still no problems with rub after taking wheels in/out either. But maybe I’m just lucky there.
I have just converted an old Marin Rift Zone in to a retro mod. I used Deore 1x11. Like you, it was my first time with a 1x11 rear mech set up. The new super range mechs are quite different to the older style. Took me a few attempts to get it right myself. I'm deffo a 1x11 convert though. Don't know why they didn't do it 30 years ago. You've really nailed thr Bob Ross thing. Love the style you've got here. Being in the UK I just discovered Bob Ross a few years ago but found it quite therapeutic. You can add yourself the list of therapeutic film makers
I loved every second of this video. It was just like a day at the bike shop for me....except you curse less😅...and you only got the wrench in the spokes instead of your hand. Great video!!
That frame is in really nice condition and the cues 1x9 worked out really well. 👍👍
To stop the brakes howling, put a business card under the rear quarter of the pads when adjusting.
Happy Birthday!! In Australia we say Al-You-Mini-Mm. Interesting to see this new Shimano CUES gear. I hope to give it a try myself one day! Love the vids
Kalloy makes great alloy budget handlebars with various higher sweep/rise options in the $20-$30 range. These are also sold/relabeled under the Dimension brand in the US. Kalloy also makes some great value stems ('Uno') in polished silver and black. Great for these types of rebuilds. A lot of the big bike brands source their stems/bars from Kalloy, then sell them with their logo on it for more $$$.
Lovely frame!
That’s a sweet bike, great urban assault or gravel bike & Happy Birthday!
I LOVE that frame!!! I currently have 3 GT triple triangle bikes from the 90's. My personal road bike is a 97 aluminum Force. I have a timberline and an output trail that I'm flipping..
Happy Birthday!
OK, so you're wearing the same $20 casio watch as I wear. You're attitude is exactly like mine, the way you handle the tools is exactly like I handle them.......AT LAST! I'VE FOUND SOMEONE WHO SEES BIKES THE WAY I SEE THEM!!!! 😂😂😂😂 Dude it's a shame we is on two different pieces of land. Wisconsin sure is a big leap across the water from Italy. Loved this video, and it's only the first time I'm watching the channel. Anyway I've clicked like and subscribed...Keep it up man! PS, I dig the music too!
I’m just waiting for the drop bar CUES to hit the market. If they’re reasonably priced and same compatibility that 11 speed 11-50 will probably end up replacing the 3x8 on my gravel bike.
Love that bike. Makes me want to have the cues system put on my old Navigator 200.
Love Gts I have 2 of them 😊nice job
I’m enjoying your excellent videos….
And that music takes me back to my college years. It sounds like a NYC lounge scene in a late 1960’s movie😎
Happy birthday Bike Farmer 🎉
1st time viewer here, great informative and entertaining video, thank you!
Pulled out my old raleigh m50 mb from 2003 and rode it today, which brought me here. Am 61 now and was wondering if I could do anything to it for more comfort. I think I have a new project and will be watching your other videos, subscribed! Thank you.
Definitely. It’s usually about $250 to do what I do at my shop. Sometimes it’s best to just trade in for another bike I’ve already got finished. It’s usually a decision I make WITH the customer after a couple test rides. Those are my favorite deals for sure.
Lot of discussion about flats How do you feel about the flat prevention liners. You know the harder plastic strip that is between the tube and tire? 🤷🏻♂️
Love your videos I learned so much!
I mean, if you're in goathead country, yeah, I guess it's a thing to worry about. Not around here though. I can change a tube in like 5 minutes while eating a sandwich. It's just part of the ride, every once in a long while.
Happy birthday, Bikefarmer! Mine was yesterday, March 5
excellent video. I want one.
Excelente trabajo, felicitaciones.
I miss my bike coop.
Shimano quick links, I have to take the bike off of the stand and hold the brakes and push down on the pedal to seat the quick link. Shimano quick links are always that way on first use.
Also, I encountered the exact same issues with v-brakes this past weekend lol… old calipers with worn out springs and loose pivots. Works fine when you finally get it sitting right but God have mercy on you if you need to take the wheels off!
Those triple triangle GTs are sharp looking. Especially the 18" ones. Look fast standing still😊
Happy birthday youngster!
Beauty of a bike bud, nice build! I do love that Shimano has some love for the everyday cyclist with cues, affordable, comparable, durable (I hope?) that is going to be a heck of a bike for someone
Thanks!
Oh wow! thanks hey!!
Great build, you'll be able to smash that bike round cities & light trails with minimum fuss & maximum comfort. Really well thought out. Only improvement I'd suggest is a double sided chain guard on the front cog to help prevent oily trousers or the chain jumping off. The CUES system looks very interesting, Shimano claim it optimised for ebikes too which is really needed if true, as I can state from experience lol.
Or leave the old front derailleur and lock it in position using stop screws. That's what I did.
I really enjoy tour videos, especially when things dont go exactly according to plan.
I'm tinkering with a 90s MTB and planning on converting it to a gravel bike. Wheel uograded is needed and I'm curious as to what wheelset you used and if an 11 speed cassette would fit. Thanks and enjoy the ride.
Close the gap a bit between the big cog and the pulley wheel. It will shift down better.
never thought I would find such a down to earth and informative bicycle oriented youtube channel. You not only inpsire me to keep riding but to also learn how to work on my own bikes.
this channel is something special!
Now one tech question for ye bike farmer, have you had any luck ever trying to use a kelvar lining like the panaracer flat away? I am setting up an old 1987 Univega Alipina Uno for touring and I want to throw on thoes reneherse rat trap passes (endurance lining) and was thinking about adding a kelvar lining to help improve durability for the purposes of touring,
I’ve ridden multiple week-long tours on Rat Trap Pass extralights on multiple surfaces including single track, fully loaded, and never got a flat. Why would you ruin the experience of the supple goodness of premium tires with all sorts of additional BS?
@@bkefrmr youre right, I will try it without and see how it goes :) just worried about my 240 pounds self giving those tires a problem. I will keep them on hand just in case.
@@liamstraub3394 you can really dial
in the pressure. Make sure you’re good at roadside flats just in case!
Happy birthday, Brian Kefrmr!