I had these for two years. Stitching was great, love the fit. Only one negative and that is the wrist Velcro has given out and now I need to see if someone can stitch a new strip on. Fantastic otherwise. Favorite glove I have ever had and unfortunately I dont see them on the market to get a replacement :(
Hate to disagree with Chris, but these gloves are simply alright, but not "all that and a bag of chips", as Chris would have us believe. I received my pair last week and took them out for a very chilly ride from Las Vegas down to the wilds of Dooly Springs, Arizona yesterday. First quible: they are awkward to get on--I ordered a size Large (my normal size in Lee Park's, for instance). The Badlands GTXs are very tight to get over my palms. Once on, they are tight across the palm and back of my hand. The fingers fit as expected, and as the accompanying KLIM litterature advises--one's fingertips should not hit the ends of the gloves. Mine are close, but there is sufficient space. Had I ordered an X-Large, the hand would have been more spacious, I suppose, but the fingers would likely have been sloppy-long (something I typically find with XLs). Not only are they tight (obviously I'm expecting them to break in an loosen up with wear), but the neoprene, inner gusset one encounters along the way, is tighter still and very thin making it awkward to grip and pull one's hand through. Once on, there is a narrow outer velcro strip to snug up. Next comes the larger velcro closure, the gauntlet, covering the upper wrist. Wearing the gloves with my heavy leather jacket, I soon found the gauntlet too narrow to get over my jacket sleeve, and too thick to get under it. I settled for partially under the cuff of my jacket. Next thing: while the gloves are pre-curved to fit the grips of your bike, dexterity for any other task is VERY limited. Yes you can operate the clutch and brake levers, but everything else is pathetically clumsy--opening my modular helmet lid and the separate visor were a struggle (think of doing either while wearing Boxing Gloves and you get the picture). Anything more delicate--taking advantage of the index finger and thumb to operate my phone--nearly impossible. Pressing the buttons on my SENA com system on the side of a Neotek II--fugetaboutit! Next item: YES, your hands still get cold! I was shocked--riding in the lower 60 degree temps, between 70 and 80 miles per hour (behind the handguards on my GSA), my hands were still getting cold! Of course I dialed up the heated grips to compensate, but because the palms are so thick, I had to max out the temp setting. That worked well enough for my hand and three fingers, but the ends of my index finger and thumb (the parts not fully wrapped around the grips) were still cold. Mind you it was cold out, and there was plenty of wind chill involved, but I expected full-on WINTER gloves--I can't imagine what my hands would feel like with temps down to the 30s! Did I mention dexterity was somewhat limited? After struggling to get them on and perform all the tasks one does to finally get underway, wait till you come to a stop and need to do all that stuff in reverse! Better not be in a hurry! Again picture the Boxing Gloves scenario. A struggle to even find the button to flip my helmet lid up, very tough to get a grip on the zipper of my jacket sleeve to get to the first glove off. Damn tough to undo the narrow velcro strip on the opposite glove. Once you're on to the larger gauntlett velcro, you're okay. Then remember (as Chris has demonstrated, to pull the gloves off properly by gripping the glove's fingertips firmly (again, a dexterity challenge) and then pull (with all your strength) to get the bloody thing off! Now with one hand loose (you sense what it must be like to be freed from handcuffs), you can make short work of the other glove and finally, you're a free man again! Now imagine going through all that on-again/off-again work each and every time you buy fuel, stop for coffee, use the restroom, put on or take off other clothing, use your phone, take a photo--you get the idea. On the other hand, Chris was absolutely right about one point: they are expensive!
Looks like a fantastic glove!! Don't like the price though! I hope other manufacturers take the visor wipe system on board. Sadly missing on many top end gloves. Manufacturers please take note. This is what we want, at an easier to digest price......
Do you get much use out of the visor wipe? In my experience it turns a visor with water drops on it into a blurry mess. I've taken to carrying clear safety glasses so I can crack my visor as much as rain / fogging demands. Although, hot and humid nights are where they get the most use.
The Held Cold Champ has all-round insulation, whereas the Badlands has light insulation on the upper. I imagine the Badlands has more feel and works better in autumn, early winter and spring. However, the Cold Champ is an excellent winter choice that works reasonably well in autumn.
There's a way to take gloves off. Liners don't come out. They get pulled out by using excess force. If you take gloves off the proper way the linings will never come out. Finally you can make the situation worse if you have bought a glove that is too small for the width of your hand. In lots of our videos we show you how to take gloves off properly. ML
Klim (Climb?) make great stuff. I have those summer gloves and they're beautifully made.
I had these for two years. Stitching was great, love the fit. Only one negative and that is the wrist Velcro has given out and now I need to see if someone can stitch a new strip on. Fantastic otherwise. Favorite glove I have ever had and unfortunately I dont see them on the market to get a replacement :(
Great video! Thanks for the update, the dual touchscreen function is great! :D
Hate to disagree with Chris, but these gloves are simply alright, but not "all that and a bag of chips", as Chris would have us believe.
I received my pair last week and took them out for a very chilly ride from Las Vegas down to the wilds of Dooly Springs, Arizona yesterday. First quible: they are awkward to get on--I ordered a size Large (my normal size in Lee Park's, for instance). The Badlands GTXs are very tight to get over my palms. Once on, they are tight across the palm and back of my hand. The fingers fit as expected, and as the accompanying KLIM litterature advises--one's fingertips should not hit the ends of the gloves. Mine are close, but there is sufficient space. Had I ordered an X-Large, the hand would have been more spacious, I suppose, but the fingers would likely have been sloppy-long (something I typically find with XLs). Not only are they tight (obviously I'm expecting them to break in an loosen up with wear), but the neoprene, inner gusset one encounters along the way, is tighter still and very thin making it awkward to grip and pull one's hand through. Once on, there is a narrow outer velcro strip to snug up. Next comes the larger velcro closure, the gauntlet, covering the upper wrist. Wearing the gloves with my heavy leather jacket, I soon found the gauntlet too narrow to get over my jacket sleeve, and too thick to get under it. I settled for partially under the cuff of my jacket.
Next thing: while the gloves are pre-curved to fit the grips of your bike, dexterity for any other task is VERY limited. Yes you can operate the clutch and brake levers, but everything else is pathetically clumsy--opening my modular helmet lid and the separate visor were a struggle (think of doing either while wearing Boxing Gloves and you get the picture). Anything more delicate--taking advantage of the index finger and thumb to operate my phone--nearly impossible. Pressing the buttons on my SENA com system on the side of a Neotek II--fugetaboutit!
Next item: YES, your hands still get cold! I was shocked--riding in the lower 60 degree temps, between 70 and 80 miles per hour (behind the handguards on my GSA), my hands were still getting cold! Of course I dialed up the heated grips to compensate, but because the palms are so thick, I had to max out the temp setting. That worked well enough for my hand and three fingers, but the ends of my index finger and thumb (the parts not fully wrapped around the grips) were still cold. Mind you it was cold out, and there was plenty of wind chill involved, but I expected full-on WINTER gloves--I can't imagine what my hands would feel like with temps down to the 30s!
Did I mention dexterity was somewhat limited? After struggling to get them on and perform all the tasks one does to finally get underway, wait till you come to a stop and need to do all that stuff in reverse! Better not be in a hurry! Again picture the Boxing Gloves scenario. A struggle to even find the button to flip my helmet lid up, very tough to get a grip on the zipper of my jacket sleeve to get to the first glove off. Damn tough to undo the narrow velcro strip on the opposite glove. Once you're on to the larger gauntlett velcro, you're okay. Then remember (as Chris has demonstrated, to pull the gloves off properly by gripping the glove's fingertips firmly (again, a dexterity challenge) and then pull (with all your strength) to get the bloody thing off! Now with one hand loose (you sense what it must be like to be freed from handcuffs), you can make short work of the other glove and finally, you're a free man again! Now imagine going through all that on-again/off-again work each and every time you buy fuel, stop for coffee, use the restroom, put on or take off other clothing, use your phone, take a photo--you get the idea.
On the other hand, Chris was absolutely right about one point: they are expensive!
How about close ups to show some details of advertised products? I like your reviews anyway.
Looks like a fantastic glove!! Don't like the price though! I hope other manufacturers take the visor wipe system on board. Sadly missing on many top end gloves. Manufacturers please take note. This is what we want, at an easier to digest price......
Do you get much use out of the visor wipe? In my experience it turns a visor with water drops on it into a blurry mess. I've taken to carrying clear safety glasses so I can crack my visor as much as rain / fogging demands. Although, hot and humid nights are where they get the most use.
Visorcat.. .. enough said
How does this Klim Badlands GTX Long compare to the HELD Cold Champ Gore-Tex gloves? Similar price range and features.
The Held Cold Champ has all-round insulation, whereas the Badlands has light insulation on the upper. I imagine the Badlands has more feel and works better in autumn, early winter and spring. However, the Cold Champ is an excellent winter choice that works reasonably well in autumn.
How does the redesigned (2024) version compare? For example, is the wrist restraint new?
You care to comment on how the Gortex liner pulls out the first time you get them really wet?
There's a way to take gloves off. Liners don't come out. They get pulled out by using excess force. If you take gloves off the proper way the linings will never come out. Finally you can make the situation worse if you have bought a glove that is too small for the width of your hand. In lots of our videos we show you how to take gloves off properly. ML
@@Motolegends Thanks I will look it up as it is a common complaint for a lot of different gloves.
Would these be a good glove for snowmobiling?
I tested them today riding my motorcycle on the highway with wind speed of approximately 70 mph. Below 55F they did not keep my hands warm.
It is pronounced the same as climb.