It's soothing.I only found it 4 years ago but for some reason it brings me back to the 70s as a kid.The vibe is like looking out the window and around the room on a quiet rainy day.
It's raining. I was walking through the streets and this music was everywhere, in the puddles on the roads, in the sky covered with thick lead clouds, in the branches of naked trees, in the cold wind blowing in my face. I was wondering whether it was me tired of all the routine and monotonous stream of the days, or it was the nature trying to focus my gaze on all the simple beauties I was ignoring though it always appeared right in front of my eyes. In fact, I just wanted to sit somewhere and let the music merge me with it and turn to a tiny peace of an immortal beauty.
Pierre Boulez said that Cage was not a composer, but an inventor. And I say he was an inventor of perceiving sound in new ways. Maybe an inventor and a philosopher. To me, this is like slowed down Debussy. Peaceful.
John Cage 1912-1992 uno dei compositori più importanti del nostro secolo : questo brano si può collocare tra minimalismo di Satie e suggestioni orientali; il compositore infatti si avvicinò al Buddismo zen
One of the most popular examples of his early, quasi-minimalist diatonic, modal output, extremely different than later, experimental, aleatoric (indeterminate) work written since the early 1950s.
There was a few albums Brian Eno did with Harold Budd and Daniel Lanois which I loved and cherished for their simple beauty, immense mood, and "originality" It turns out that they were influenced by this music John Cage recorded some 40 plus years earlier. And so it goes, there is always a source, a first, it is here with this gem.
@@vegetableman5062 Stop trashing these brilliant artists and looking for a nod and a wink, you're not funny vegetable brain and obviously not a brilliant artist...now go play in traffic veggie turd, no more messages.
@@timages dude, he was telling you about a legit thing lmao. Furniture music was a real term invented by Erik Satie. And by the way, he didn't even trash any of them. In fact, in my humble opinion, artists of the likes of this like a Brian Eno, La Monte Young, Steve Reich and pretty much all that you mentioned here are some of my favorites. I think Erik Satie ought to be mentioned because he was a huge influence on not just ambient but also jazz to some degree and not to mention extremely talented and one of my favorites
What makes this characteristic of other Cage compositions is his employing of chance music for the composition process. However, unlike Music of Changes, he does not employ the I Ching for his chance process. He uses paper imperfections. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_Piano_(Cage)
Exactly. For those who don't know this piece is also an experiment. He wanted to write a piece that sounds like it wasn't written by him at all. So every single note of this comes from some Ancient Chinese book.
This piece is a summer afternoon in the tall grass with a warm breeze. It is fat, lazy rain drops from dark skies. It is the last whisps of a thunderstorm blowing behind a mountain at dawn. It is starlight glinting off thawed and refrozen snow. It is a calm ocean wrapped in tinfoil fog. It is clean, painfully cold air on a high desert morning. It is sleeping on beach beneath a palm tree and breathing salt air.
@@luckytooth John Cage occasionally spawns as a great musician (if you have the DLC). If you choose to create a great work, he creates In A Landscape, and you get to hear a sample of it.
@Mark Davenport - The music suggests SATIE most of all. Lou Harrison & John Cage met Alan Hovhaness at the (1945?) premiere of Hovhaness's LOUSADZAK (composed 1944). Both LH & JC were knocked out by AH's new departure. LH wrote a rave review for Virgil Thomson (NY Herald Tribune) & LH wrote several suites heavily influenced by AH. Hovhaness may also have known Satie's music at that time, but JC & VT could have informed him. I respect Cage for not being an avant-garde snob, unlike most of his followers. AH was a major composer & he struggled for recognition - he had his own audience & gained fame in 1955 with Mysterious Mountain (Sym.2). But what is overlooked is Hovhaness's major innovations. Lutoslawski was clueless about Hovhaness's aleatorism of 1944 (in Lousadzak) which is 16 years before WL coined the term "aleatorism". WL simply got his idea via JC (innocently ?). The Hovhaness/Cage recordings were 78rpm album(s) issued USA in 1947. Cage took up the SATIE cause around 1948-58.
This a strange one for John Cage. His 1st recordings (Amores) were issued on a 78rpm album alongside Alan Hovhaness's 1st recordings around 1945-8. Satie was to be a big influence. But where does this dreamy tonal item fit into the scheme of things ? Lou Harrison's shadow perhaps !
@@RunMDPhD - The music suggests SATIE most of all. Lou Harrison & John Cage met Alan Hovhaness at the (1945?) premiere of Hovhaness's LOUSADZAK (composed 1944). Both LH & JC were knocked out by AH's new departure. LH wrote a rave review for Virgil Thomson (NY Herald Tribune) & LH wrote several suites heavily influenced by AH. Hovhaness may also have known Satie's music at that time, but JC & VT could have informed him. I respect Cage for not being an avant-garde snob, unlike most of his followers. AH was a major composer & he struggled for recognition - he had his own audience & gained fame in 1955 with Mysterious Mountain (Sym.2). But what is overlooked is Hovhaness's major innovations. Lutoslawski was clueless about Hovhaness's aleatorism of 1944 (in Lousadzak) which is 16 years before WL coined the term "aleatorism". WL simply got his idea via JC (innocently ?). The Hovhaness/Cage recordings were 78rpm album(s) issued USA in 1947. Cage took up the SATIE cause around 1948-58.
@@egapnala65 - there's nothing normal about the tuning of most acoustic pianos (with their stretched octaves). The prepared piano is a much more complex sound world....
@@rogerantonybennett5272 My point was that in terms of actual compositional style there is very little difference between this and the prepared piano works he was writing at the same time.
I think of it more as an embodiment of the idea of depression. It starts with a motif we hear constantly repeated throughout the piece, and at times it sounds like it's about to resolve but it always comes back. It's like how certain events or occurrences stick in our head, and we try so hard to get over it but we never really do.
This was Cage inspired by Erik Satie. He was 36 years old. This was composed only several years before Cage turned to indeterminacy and chance composed music, such as the The Music of Changes. Such a complete rejection of this work, I wonder what happened, to make John Cage reject all emotion in his music.
I find Cage's later music just as emotional as this, which is to say not very emotional at all. The music itself does not and should not contain emotion, it is human beings who contain emotion and sometimes listening to music reminds us of this. This music is similar to Satie's in the sense that is especially rhythmic - Cage was at this point known as a percussion composer especially because of his intense interest in rhythms and structure in music over all other aspects. Satie and Webern, Cage's favourites, were similar.
there's a great article by Jonathan Katz called 'John Cage's Queer Silence' which has a few speculations about the titles of Cage's pieces around this period : )
This piece was composed and premiered in Black Mountain, NC, home of the Black Mountain College (definitely worth Googling if you haven't heard of this school)
It might make you think of Satie, but believe me the construction of this composition is about as far away from Satie as you could possibly get. Always unwise to compare one composers' music with another.
@@DavidA-ps1qr Maybe the construction of the composition is different, but it's not the point. The construction of the composition creates the identity, but the emotions conveyed go beyond. A painting and a song can remind you a same memory ,when you felt that emotion, and yet they are not even the same medium. Pardon my english
@@DavidA-ps1qr If it sounds like satie, it's like satie. I don't care if it was written in logic or ableton. If it sounds the same, it sounds the same. End of story
Cheguei ate aqui através de um cara que eu quero casar, ele me mandou essa musica como referencia de seu gosto musical e fez muitos elogios a obra do John Cage. Gente ajuda ele aceitar meu pedido de casamento, acho que ele não me levou a serio.
He is one of the most influential figures of the 20th century. People who say he is bad just bandwagon in that opinion without actually taking the time to really listen to his body of work.
Satie is composing in a fin de siecle aesthetic. Debussy is clearly a modernist both in means and aesthetic...In a landscape traces back his roots in Satie's Vexations -ie the archetypal of postmodernism.... Cage writing in 1948 is clearly THE American avant-garde but this work is both in means and aesthetic a postmodern product (a deviation)...In the 50s Cage is going to prepare officially the way for the postmodern 60s by producing aleatory music.... Modernism in not simplicity, neither ambience...
@@frozolouk13 One thing at a time. Cage later. "Satie's Vexations -ie the archetypal of postmodernism." I thought you said Satie is 'fin de siecle' . In what way is that piece 'archetypal of pomo"?
@@frozolouk13 As for Cage, I was surprised by this piece, because I thought him a one-trick pony. He holds the same position in art history as whoever first stuck a blank canvas on the wall and declared it 'art'. Then 'Aleatory' is nothing new, composers all have their tricks for generating ideas : I use dice.
@@frozolouk13 and by "the postmodern 60s " please don't talk about the Beatles, or psychedelic rock! I come from the visual arts, so to me the ideas of POMO are best seen in architecture, The historical relativism is fascinating.
Ripetitività a non finire... è un fantasticare su schemi armonici/ melodici molto semplici. Probabilmente, chi apprezza e sopravvaluta questo "compositore" è a digiuno di composizioni musicali di un certo spessore artistico. È una moda del giorno d'oggi, considerare forme artistiche deplorevoli e banali, perle di genialità.
Hai qualcosa da consigliare? A me personalmente piace a livello di sensazioni, però ammetto di non avere una cultura musicale, soprattutto da un punto di vista tecnico
Concordo in pieno. Purtroppo l'arte del 900 appare quasi tutta un susseguirsi di provocazioni . Vorrei domandare che tipo di piacere si prova a contemplare un barattolo pieno di cacca.
this is so repetitive that it gives me a headache. Music has millions of "landscapes" and paths why insist on the same patch for 10 exhausting minutes is beyond my comprehension
Why when Cage has the ability to compose this,,Does he indulge in that other Crap,🤮😱?? I’m pretty sure he’s laughing at people that pay to hear his avant-garde effluent,,😂😂😂
@@minglee2424 understand and grow from what? The man was into and composed "sounds." He rarely composed music. If you like sound, that's great. Just stop conflating the two by spewing a bunch of pseudo-intellectual mumbo jumbo that a bunch of pretentious twits think is "deep." I've stepped in deeper puddles than John Cage.
@@realfranktalk6767 Think you completely missed the point of my statement. I wasn't even talking to you either and you come bumbling in defending him like some kind of triggered SJW. Also linking a video to prove a point is being a "pseudo-intellectual" ... jesus fucking christ some people's brains these days can't even tell if theyre functioning properly or not.
Repetitiveness to no end ... it is a fantasizing about very simple harmonic / melodic patterns. Probably, those who appreciate and overestimate this "composer" are fasting of musical compositions of a certain artistic depth. It is a fashion of today, considering deplorable and banal artistic forms, pearls of genius.
Alas, being condescending about the creativity of others and not willing to try and understand their approach and the circumstances under which they originated also is a sad fashion of todays self announced art pundits. Combined with the desire to let the world know about their disapproval via the internet.
I heard this on a classical music radio station and fell in love with it, now I use it to put my daughter to sleep. I love it!
Me too. Couldn't believe it was John Cage!!
It's soothing.I only found it 4 years ago but for some reason it brings me back to the 70s as a kid.The vibe is like looking out the window and around the room on a quiet rainy day.
I could listen to this endlessly
It's raining. I was walking through the streets and this music was everywhere, in the puddles on the roads, in the sky covered with thick lead clouds, in the branches of naked trees, in the cold wind blowing in my face. I was wondering whether it was me tired of all the routine and monotonous stream of the days, or it was the nature trying to focus my gaze on all the simple beauties I was ignoring though it always appeared right in front of my eyes. In fact, I just wanted to sit somewhere and let the music merge me with it and turn to a tiny peace of an immortal beauty.
This music speaks about existence
Ghost-dog i wish i could love this comment
cringe af
kalyna vickers A shame you are who and what you are.
@@kalynavickers5829 obviously you don't know how to use the cringe concept
Pierre Boulez said that Cage was not a composer, but an inventor. And I say he was an inventor of perceiving sound in new ways. Maybe an inventor and a philosopher. To me, this is like slowed down Debussy. Peaceful.
Actually it was his tutor Schoenberg. But you are spot on everywhere else, our Jeff.
@@onegathers You’d think I would know this, given that I read it in Style & Idea many years ago. Thanks for the correction.
Actually, it was Schoenberg that said that.
yea, Boulez just called him a performing monkey
Schoenberg said ! because the cage learned from him
Sublime piece of music. A haiku, a long haiku in music.
its calming and very intentional in placements and sounds its quite beautiful
Composers often write a dialogue that only the spirit understands.
But Cage rejected music as a form of communication
@@joshbaino3087 I reject cage as a from of rejection
@@Qazwdx111 Best of the masses of comments (on many topics) I read today!
mecojoni
Dedicated to the times me and my brother spent together.
this is beautiful
Did your brother die?
Sebastián Edu: Yeah.
Una composizione unica, magica per la sua atemporalità.
So while listening, I heard the birds outside our house chirping and it just felt perfect with this
Amazing!
beautiful, simply beautiful
Like a soothing balm..
Jケージの人柄側かる曲ですね。いい曲ですねー大好きです😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
This is amazing in a snowy or foggy morning standing outside.
ending of this piece of music always makes me cry :'(
Reminds me of the music that plays in the rooms that you save your progress in the old Resident Evil Games
No encuentro que se le parezca mucho, pero me hiciste recordar ese videojuego y mis años 26. 😞 Te dejo un like
this always makes me cry, beautiful piece of music
Just heard on Democracy Now! as a button between segments. Nice
purely.beautifull.Essential
la musica es muy perfecto. Gracias por la bunito artista senior John Cage.
No conocia a este compositor. Es increible su trabajo. Gracias por compartirlo.
Estoy de acuerdo.
Athy Atilio Adrián Matteucci El compositor ya murió.
Nelly Hernández ¿y eso qué?
John Cage 1912-1992 uno dei compositori più importanti del nostro secolo : questo brano si può collocare tra minimalismo di Satie e suggestioni orientali; il compositore infatti si avvicinò al Buddismo zen
@@tao5143eso que de que
One of the most popular examples of his early, quasi-minimalist diatonic, modal output, extremely different than later, experimental, aleatoric (indeterminate) work written since the early 1950s.
Yep. This might had been popular on some radio stations. What a whimsical statement.
@@OSIRIS1980WHS why whimsical?
damn a science one
There was a few albums Brian Eno did with Harold Budd and Daniel Lanois which I loved and cherished for their simple beauty, immense mood, and "originality" It turns out that they were influenced by this music John Cage recorded some 40 plus years earlier. And so it goes, there is always a source, a first, it is here with this gem.
Well Erik Satie developed 'Furniture Music' even earlier. Music to blend into the background like part of the furniture. What goes around...
@@vegetableman5062 Furniture music? I can see why you're vegetable man...go get a brain!
@@timages Apologies if the conversation got above your comprehension. It must have made you feel really bad about yourself.
@@vegetableman5062 Stop trashing these brilliant artists and looking for a nod and a wink, you're not funny vegetable brain and obviously not a brilliant artist...now go play in traffic veggie turd, no more messages.
@@timages dude, he was telling you about a legit thing lmao. Furniture music was a real term invented by Erik Satie. And by the way, he didn't even trash any of them. In fact, in my humble opinion, artists of the likes of this like a Brian Eno, La Monte Young, Steve Reich and pretty much all that you mentioned here are some of my favorites. I think Erik Satie ought to be mentioned because he was a huge influence on not just ambient but also jazz to some degree and not to mention extremely talented and one of my favorites
Love you JR💖
It's hard to believe that this Masterpiece composed by Cage. Other, experimental, pieces by Him is SO DIFFERENT TO THIS!
Homage to Debussy.
What makes this characteristic of other Cage compositions is his employing of chance music for the composition process. However, unlike Music of Changes, he does not employ the I Ching for his chance process. He uses paper imperfections. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_Piano_(Cage)
@@barbarasmith6005 but no
also "Dream"
Exactly. For those who don't know this piece is also an experiment. He wanted to write a piece that sounds like it wasn't written by him at all. So every single note of this comes from some Ancient Chinese book.
This piece is a summer afternoon in the tall grass with a warm breeze. It is fat, lazy rain drops from dark skies. It is the last whisps of a thunderstorm blowing behind a mountain at dawn. It is starlight glinting off thawed and refrozen snow. It is a calm ocean wrapped in tinfoil fog. It is clean, painfully cold air on a high desert morning. It is sleeping on beach beneath a palm tree and breathing salt air.
Wisps.
Thank you Civilization V for showing me this masterpiece.
Haha! Was led here too by Civ my friend, what a hidden gem.
@@truemiltonic Wait, this music is in civilization v?
@@luckytooth John Cage occasionally spawns as a great musician (if you have the DLC). If you choose to create a great work, he creates In A Landscape, and you get to hear a sample of it.
@@jeremyl2155 hahaha thats so awesome
Me too. I always put on the great musician's work when I generate one. Never heard of John Cage. Guess that's what the game is meant to do.
So beautiful .....
beautiful
Very nice! I enjoyed it so relaxing! Your new subscriber, from Romania!
This is basically ASMR. The tingles are insane.
intresting sounds on 1.5 speed, and distortion makes it more mystery
Genius.
Been listening to this since 2003.
John cage forever
Beautiful
dreamy music
masterpiece
It feels like a sonic massage.
The shadow in the picture is Merce Cunningham.
You're right.
Timeless and spaceless
@Mark Davenport - The music suggests SATIE most of all. Lou Harrison & John Cage met Alan Hovhaness at the (1945?) premiere of Hovhaness's LOUSADZAK (composed 1944). Both LH & JC were knocked out by AH's new departure. LH wrote a rave review for Virgil Thomson (NY Herald Tribune) & LH wrote several suites heavily influenced by AH. Hovhaness may also have known Satie's music at that time, but JC & VT could have informed him. I respect Cage for not being an avant-garde snob, unlike most of his followers. AH was a major composer & he struggled for recognition - he had his own audience & gained fame in 1955 with Mysterious Mountain (Sym.2). But what is overlooked is Hovhaness's major innovations. Lutoslawski was clueless about Hovhaness's aleatorism of 1944 (in Lousadzak) which is 16 years before WL coined the term "aleatorism".
WL simply got his idea via JC (innocently ?).
The Hovhaness/Cage recordings were 78rpm album(s) issued USA in 1947.
Cage took up the SATIE cause around 1948-58.
Delightful
Cage was very much about sources of music
모든것이 멈춘 시공간속에 있는 느낌
ㅇㅏ 공감합니다
You can tell just from this piece that John Cage was heavily influenced by Zen Buddhism.
It was actually created using the Yijing (or I Ching) which predates buddhism by many centuries.
I realized I misread the title! It is imaginary landscape no. 4 which was created with the I Ching (and his album Music of Changes of course).
And satie.
ja ! ignorante
it does
Grazie per questa perla
I didn’t know John Cage could write beautiful music
This reminds me of the ambient music from Minecraft
muy bueno
This a strange one for John Cage. His 1st recordings (Amores) were issued on a 78rpm album alongside Alan Hovhaness's 1st recordings around 1945-8. Satie was to be a big influence. But where does this dreamy tonal item fit into the scheme of things ? Lou Harrison's shadow perhaps !
Rather a homage to Erik Satie - his idol...
@@RunMDPhD - The music suggests SATIE most of all. Lou Harrison & John Cage met Alan Hovhaness at the (1945?) premiere of Hovhaness's LOUSADZAK (composed 1944). Both LH & JC were knocked out by AH's new departure. LH wrote a rave review for Virgil Thomson (NY Herald Tribune) & LH wrote several suites heavily influenced by AH. Hovhaness may also have known Satie's music at that time, but JC & VT could have informed him. I respect Cage for not being an avant-garde snob, unlike most of his followers. AH was a major composer & he struggled for recognition - he had his own audience & gained fame in 1955 with Mysterious Mountain (Sym.2). But what is overlooked is Hovhaness's major innovations. Lutoslawski was clueless about Hovhaness's aleatorism of 1944 (in Lousadzak) which is 16 years before WL coined the term "aleatorism".
WL simply got his idea via JC (innocently ?).
The Hovhaness/Cage recordings were 78rpm album(s) issued USA in 1947.
Cage took up the SATIE cause around 1948-58.
Its pretty much the same as his prepared piano music from the 1940s only without the bolts and nuts.
@@egapnala65 - there's nothing normal about the tuning of most acoustic pianos (with their stretched octaves).
The prepared piano is a much more complex sound world....
@@rogerantonybennett5272 My point was that in terms of actual compositional style there is very little difference between this and the prepared piano works he was writing at the same time.
Aphex Twin like this song hehehe
Aphex twin is rubbish
@@callactm14 wrong
While I was listening I was thinking about Aphex Twin too!
@Evil Robot Santa Claus 🎁 💣 💥 yes it is ,compared to Cage most definitely, Stockhausen said so
genius
This piece is an existential crisis in the form of music
its too calm and soft for that.
I think of it more as an embodiment of the idea of depression. It starts with a motif we hear constantly repeated throughout the piece, and at times it sounds like it's about to resolve but it always comes back. It's like how certain events or occurrences stick in our head, and we try so hard to get over it but we never really do.
Hello, does anyone knows from wich album belongs this recordind? and who´s the interpreter? sorry my bad english im from argentina :D
Rocio This is from Album In a Landscape, piano pieces played by Stephen Dury
This was Cage inspired by Erik Satie. He was 36 years old. This was composed only several years before Cage turned to indeterminacy and chance composed music, such as the The Music of Changes. Such a complete rejection of this work, I wonder what happened, to make John Cage reject all emotion in his music.
Really? What an interesting thing to know!
I hear the gentle, repeated ambient sounds of Satie paralled in this Cage composition - !
Not really rejection, this piece has a lot from improvisation, random... But such beauty.
I find Cage's later music just as emotional as this, which is to say not very emotional at all. The music itself does not and should not contain emotion, it is human beings who contain emotion and sometimes listening to music reminds us of this. This music is similar to Satie's in the sense that is especially rhythmic - Cage was at this point known as a percussion composer especially because of his intense interest in rhythms and structure in music over all other aspects. Satie and Webern, Cage's favourites, were similar.
maybe he just got bored lol
Relaxing
Here after this was recommended by Inon Zur
four Tet made a cool song out of this called 128 harps
Dj Shadow brought me here...
genio
Was expecting the girl to come out of the well in The Ring.
brilhant
Does anybody know how and why did Cage choose this title? Are there any bibliographical references about the title? Thank You.
there's a great article by Jonathan Katz called 'John Cage's Queer Silence' which has a few speculations about the titles of Cage's pieces around this period : )
This piece was composed and premiered in Black Mountain, NC, home of the Black Mountain College (definitely worth Googling if you haven't heard of this school)
The title reminds of Zen Buddhism where you don't observe the landscape as a disconnected entity. You are part of it, in it.
Dem Universum zuhören...
5:38 is a wrong note (g instead of the written f)
Somewhere
🙂
^~^
❤❤❤
The Minecraft background music seems to owe a debt to this.
Brian Eno brought me here
It makes me think to Erik Satie.
yes, harold budd as well
It might make you think of Satie, but believe me the construction of this composition is about as far away from Satie as you could possibly get. Always unwise to compare one composers' music with another.
@@DavidA-ps1qr Maybe the construction of the composition is different, but it's not the point. The construction of the composition creates the identity, but the emotions conveyed go beyond. A painting and a song can remind you a same memory ,when you felt that emotion, and yet they are not even the same medium. Pardon my english
@@OBudful My point exactly but put another way. It's nothing like Satie.
@@DavidA-ps1qr If it sounds like satie, it's like satie. I don't care if it was written in logic or ableton. If it sounds the same, it sounds the same. End of story
reminds me a bit of minecraft music
Debussy
more like Satie
@@cmvb Anch'io trovo questo brano molto vicino al minimalismo di Satie
#OdedFriedGaon #OdedMusic
Who is the pianist on this recording?
Cheguei ate aqui através de um cara que eu quero casar, ele me mandou essa musica como referencia de seu gosto musical e fez muitos elogios a obra do John Cage. Gente ajuda ele aceitar meu pedido de casamento, acho que ele não me levou a serio.
Casaram? Rs
Tem paciencia. Não pode USA forza com o amor. Aguarde em calma até o momento ele será pronto.
Usar, não USA!
Que bom ver brasileiros por aqui !!
john cage 1.0 --- brian eno 2,0
His music isn't as bad as it sounds.
He is one of the most influential figures of the 20th century. People who say he is bad just bandwagon in that opinion without actually taking the time to really listen to his body of work.
Ecouté en lisant Anne de Fornel...
This music must be cool a experience after the injection of some dose of morphine.
Hi, Martin!!
загадочная музыка
......................
How can anyone enjoy this, i thought I might of fallen asleep after the first 30 seconds
Good, working as intended :) Relaxing music do be like that
I would say postmodernism but really early postmodernism!
I'd say late 20th century modernism. saying 'post' implies a rejection,
and he is really in the same mood as Modernists like Debussy or Sati.
Satie is composing in a fin de siecle aesthetic. Debussy is clearly a modernist both in means and aesthetic...In a landscape traces back his roots in Satie's Vexations -ie the archetypal of postmodernism.... Cage writing in 1948 is clearly THE American avant-garde but this work is both in means and aesthetic a postmodern product (a deviation)...In the 50s Cage is going to prepare officially the way for the postmodern 60s by producing aleatory music.... Modernism in not simplicity, neither ambience...
@@frozolouk13 One thing at a time. Cage later. "Satie's Vexations -ie the archetypal of postmodernism." I thought you said Satie is 'fin de siecle' . In what way is that piece 'archetypal of pomo"?
@@frozolouk13 As for Cage, I was surprised by this piece, because I thought him a one-trick pony. He holds the same position in art history as whoever first stuck a blank canvas on the wall and declared it 'art'. Then 'Aleatory' is nothing new, composers all have their tricks for generating ideas : I use dice.
@@frozolouk13 and by "the postmodern 60s " please don't talk about the Beatles, or psychedelic rock! I come from the visual arts, so to me the ideas of POMO are best seen in architecture, The historical relativism is fascinating.
Ripetitività a non finire... è un fantasticare su schemi armonici/ melodici molto semplici. Probabilmente, chi apprezza e sopravvaluta questo "compositore" è a digiuno di composizioni musicali di un certo spessore artistico. È una moda del giorno d'oggi, considerare forme artistiche deplorevoli e banali, perle di genialità.
Hai qualcosa da consigliare?
A me personalmente piace a livello di sensazioni, però ammetto di non avere una cultura musicale, soprattutto da un punto di vista tecnico
@@lucascriabine5404 sei stato gentilissimo, con calma ascolterò tutti i brani
Grazie ancora e buon week end
@@sakisha_26_2
Grazie e buon week end
anche per Te
Concordo in pieno.
Purtroppo l'arte del 900 appare quasi tutta un susseguirsi di provocazioni .
Vorrei domandare che tipo di piacere si prova a contemplare un barattolo pieno di cacca.
Cage semplicemente non è un compositore sopravvalutato!
Cry
mine craft
Angosciante
I am gay and I don't care what SannahaShah has to do with it 😠
this is so repetitive that it gives me a headache. Music has millions of "landscapes" and paths why insist on the same patch for 10 exhausting minutes is beyond my comprehension
Why when Cage has the ability to compose this,,Does he indulge in that other Crap,🤮😱?? I’m pretty sure he’s laughing at people that pay to hear his avant-garde effluent,,😂😂😂
Hopefully this will help you understand and grow from this ignorant statement about Cage's work. ruclips.net/video/pcHnL7aS64Y/видео.html
@@minglee2424 understand and grow from what? The man was into and composed "sounds." He rarely composed music. If you like sound, that's great. Just stop conflating the two by spewing a bunch of pseudo-intellectual mumbo jumbo that a bunch of pretentious twits think is "deep." I've stepped in deeper puddles than John Cage.
@@realfranktalk6767 Think you completely missed the point of my statement. I wasn't even talking to you either and you come bumbling in defending him like some kind of triggered SJW. Also linking a video to prove a point is being a "pseudo-intellectual" ... jesus fucking christ some people's brains these days can't even tell if theyre functioning properly or not.
@@realfranktalk6767 Also "I've stepped in deeper puddles than John Cage" who's the pretentious twit here ?
The art of pinchbeck/crap. Even John Cage has cheapo episodes, generating by American capitalism: powers of money and celebrities life (?).
Repetitiveness to no end ... it is a fantasizing about very simple harmonic / melodic patterns. Probably, those who appreciate and overestimate this "composer" are fasting of musical compositions of a certain artistic depth. It is a fashion of today, considering deplorable and banal artistic forms, pearls of genius.
Alas, being condescending about the creativity of others and not willing to try and understand their approach and the circumstances under which they originated also is a sad fashion of todays self announced art pundits. Combined with the desire to let the world know about their disapproval via the internet.
when i heard it, i felt like 2 year old boy... or maybe 100.
beautiful
beautiful