AK vs M16 Which would I choose??
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Comparing two iconic platforms! How they handle and what's probably the better all-around choice! The AK is specifically a Chinese Type 56 Spiker, and John's M16A1 is wearing a carbine-length upper and short stock when we do this video.
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You said it took you about a year to possess those fully automatic rifles. Do you hold an FFL? Out of curiosity, and unless I missed it, could you explain what you had to do as a civilian, non-law enforcement in order to purchase and possess full auto capable firearms. Thanks!
our idiot leader up north of you banned all m16 varients yet we can still legally buy AK`s,,logic
You need an m2 carbine full auto
Think you have a Mac90
My Dad was a Marine combat veteran in Vietnam. 66 67. He swore by the M14. He never got over his distaste for the M16. Wouldnt even consider a modern AR15. I tried telling him things have changed since the 1960s but he didnt care lol
But....when a rifle like the M14 kept you alive i guess you tend to be very fond of it. Dad was in very nasty combat...including Khe Sahn hill battle. He had a purple heart and bronze star. Sadly he passed away in 2021
Your dad could not defeat a VC with an M16 if he stood behind a large banana tree trunk! This is a disadvantage about the M16 in the Vietnam war. M15 nowadays has more punch as the AK47.
@@TT-dp8qh funny thing is I bought a AK47 back in 2004 and Dad loved it 😂😂. I thought it was kinda strange how he liked the gun that he was shot at with lol. But no he just loved to shoot it 👍.
@@JohnnyRebKy AK has a lot of punches but it is not accurate to its target. In the Vietnam war, the VCs had to spray more bullets into the bushes. This will also create the opponents to pinpoint where they at and the sound from their guns.
Your dad sounds like he was very cool, I hope you handled his loss alright
Thank your dad for his service in that Vietnam war. I went to vietnam for a holiday and I noticed most of the people don't talk bad about "the American soldiers" and are very polite even a war can be evil and leave a lot trauma's ...
Anyway, thanks again and the M14 is a awesome rifle.❤
I own Semiautomatic versions of both AK and AR, and the question that always comes up to me is how do they compare to each other, My answer is think of the AK as a broad sword and the AR as a fencing sword. One is more harder-hitting and brutal and the other is faster and more precise.
I was in 1984-1990 and I never had my standard M16 fail. We did clean it every time we had any downtime. Clean, clean, clean.
That sounds like a big drawback to the AR platform.
@@Josh-fp2qn no, any time a soldier has down time he should maintain his equipment. We cleaned everything, not just m-16’s, M-60’s, M-203’s, M-79’s, M-2’s, Mk19’s. That, and take care of your feet.
Hickock laughing and saying "pretty funny" right before firing like 15 rounds has such meme potential.
Plenty of loaded mags too. This man is always prepared 👍👍
Imagine if Bob Ross got to shoot guns with our boy. They are legends in their own respects
One correction. When talking about accuracy you said the M16 has a cold hammer forged barrel. It does not. The M16, M16A1, M16A2, M16A4, and the standard issue M4 M4A1 all do not have cold hammer forged barrels. The special operations issue URGI (sometimes called the Block III M4A1) and the HK416/M27 IAR have CHF barrels.
I would say that as far as being quick with either; if you take someone equally well trained on either firearm, all else being equal someone trained with the AR will be quicker. It's just simply quicker to only have to press a button rather than having to reach over or pull a lever...
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I personally prefer the ak 47 as it's more practical for ubran style conflicts, assuming most are within 100 yards because they are why not have the gun that does the most damage? with enough weight behind it to effectively drive a bayonet, that's also designed for harsh weather conditions, most legal ak-47 & ak 74 respectively are semi automatic the accuracy issue is basically solved especially if you run a foregrip with a good quality stock and or a bipod to lay prone. Where as the ar 15/m4 series is weaker in damage and can't take the abuse a custom ak 47 with well manufactured parts can, Ar has its uses for sure especially for 200-350m range shots and has a very fine sense of penetration and have a shit ton of customizations to make it more versatile overall. All in all great video! Definitely slapping a like and subscribe.
The ak certainly has a bark to it that the m16 is lacking
shot and owned more than a few AK47's and AK74's ...russian, chinese bulgarian, romanian, polish, j with wood and polymer furniture never in combat. they functioned well, took abuse like an ugly stepchild. the M16 shot it as a "professional" back in the late 1960's in a place called Vietnam, with the marines ,up so close to the de militarized zone you could smell the sardines the NVA loved to eat. I speak just from my own experiences .it was a good shooing weapon, had very little kick, easy to load and sighted well. I had trained with the M14 which had knock/stay down capacity. got to Vietnam, given the m16 with the 3 prong flash suppressor and carry handle.took awhile to get used to the tiny cartridges of the M16. I would see lots of AK47's and SKS'S during my tour. only got to shoot them we were standing down to come home and we were told to shoot any weapons we had...either ours or there's just to burn them up and leave them in country.i liked the cartridge (m 43) AK 7.62x39) it was a nice "just the weight" for hog hunting back home when I bought my 1st one in the mid 80s.had I
to do it allover ,I would take the M-16 ,THIS TIME WITH 30 ROUND MAGAZINES!!
Hickok gets the general idea down, but what he means by politics with the M-16 is that Springfield Armory (not the present day one) basically blackballed anyone who wasn't internally approved by those in SArmory, because that Armory was fighting to retain sole proprietary contracting for the US Army (as they'd done throughout the history of USA). They literally intentionally bunked these rifles and lied about it's effectiveness and made worse knockoffs (and used worse powders intentionally, despite evidence about the optimal powder) to keep their hegemony in power and discredit Eugene Stoner's ingenious rifle. A lot more complicated but its basically treason beyond reason once you keep learning about it.
Not to mention, the military effectively said 'screw you' to issuing cleaning kits so much so that infamously people back home had to send their loved ones deployed cleaning tools. Wasn't til very late in the war that these issues generally smoothed over. Just a mess of a war, especially the shady shit we did in the neighboring countries like Cambodia.
I was in Vietnam in 1968 and 1969. I was a recon patrol leader and used the M16 and CAR15. The M16 had all the bugs out of it by the time I used it. It was dependable if you kept it clean. It was light and easy to wield in the heavy bush. You could carry a lot of ammunition for it because the ammunition was light. At one point I carried 600 rounds, and, yes, that much is heavy but doable. It lacked range. That was the only drawback. Beyond 400 meters the 223 lost its punch and in the central highlands of Vietnam, we needed a quick light rifle for close work and a rifle that could reach out across ravines and valleys to, say, 800 meters or so.
Salute!
Thank you for your video and professional opinion about the wepon.
It great to hear are veterans point of view.
There's no better person for the job. ❤
You got a 30cal and the Poodle Shooter.
Glad you made it back, WELCOME HOME!!
Yeah but do you condemn Khvietcong?
I had nothing but issues with my AR, got rid of and bought an AK, I will take my AK all day.
What model / brand ak you have ?
The AK design is, and will always have a majestic look! It’s my all time favorite for looks!!!
I associate communism and banana republics with the AK. Give me a Western weapon any day.
My favorite design is the STG 44, followed by AK.
AK 47 gun is most famous then 16
Looks? It’s one of the most primitive looking rifles out there. The wooden stock looks cheap and the levers look cheap. It’s fit and finish is the least attractive of them all. It might be a heavy hitter and popular but “looks”? C’mon.
@@eyedentity66please never touch another gun thanks 🙏
The sound of the M16 on full auto screams MERICA! Love that M16 👍
America is a Latin word😂
Just curious, who won the Vietnam war and who used which weapons?
I googled it, communist stayed and America left in 1976.
I'm confident that full autos will be constitutionally available to buy within the next few years
Too bad 😞 the average American can't afford one.
That m16 on full auto makes such a badass sound. Holy crap.
Yeah that surprised me as well.
@@rg20322i know both are legit weapons of war but that m16 sounds on a different level of, "you just f#%ked up."
So does an AK, especially when it's being fired at you.
@taraswertelecki3786 these guys are high AK sounds more monsterious in real life.
Sounds like it'd saw you in half if you moved it up to down, honestly. Media doesn't portray how nasty firearms sound correctly. So good.
I'd take a AK 47 any day.
Less moving parts, works like a timex watch.
Hey there Hickok! Doc Lawson chiming in. Back in 87-88 we deployed with 1st MarDiv to Okinawa as the MEU. Went to the live fire mortar range and one of my Marines had an accident. He had his M-16 slung while dropping the mortar round. The round hit the M-16 barrel, continued downrange hit the ground and exploded, as you might expect. Well my Marine had a contusion from the sling being pulled away from his shoulder. He was black and blue for a couple of weeks, there were no other casualties except the armorer! I do believe he is still crying. Well sir, the barrel of that M-16 took an angle of about ninety degrees give or take a few degrees, rendering the weapon “unserviceable”. That means the M-16 could not be saved! Thank you for the videos. I enjoy them immensely! Keep up the good work, sir.
Wow holy shit😊
Oh wow
Having fired both during the 80's, I feel the M16 was better at distance, but the AK seemed to be more dependable and durable.
The M-16 is easier to keep on target in full auto too, referring to the 7.62x39mm AK's. I havent fired a true AK-74 but ive heard they are quite easy to fire full auto though.
@@davidca96 We had one field exercise in Germany where we got to sample it. That was fun!
Shut up
@@davidca96 545x39 has no recoil. I highly recommend you try it!!
@@midnightclub7629 I will one day for sure thanks, I have always heard that about them. The problem is the ammo isnt allowed to be imported anymore, or the parts kits so the rifles and ammo become more rare and expensive every year. I can remember when 5.45 was dirt cheap true Russian military crates, now we cant get them anymore.
"You wait until im done, camera speaker."
- full auto M16
An old vet told me the difference between the 5.56 (M-16) and the 7.62x39 (AK) bullet was; the 556 was like a Ferrari very sleek and fast, but if it hit a tree limb would be all over the place… whereas the AK round was like bulldozer, big, heavy, strong, and would push the freakin tree down…
that's fuddtastic. 🤣😂🤣
The ultimate rifle for mowing down stuff was the garand, but the M14 was no slouch either, But two heavy weapons.
Hugo Schmeisser was in the same factory after WW2 as Kalashnikov, with 6 other German firearms experts, so you are spot on.
Hey Hickok ! Shot quite a bit in Switzerland close to where I live, many great shooters and gun lovers over here just like you in the US ! Both platforms are much beloved here and owned by many. Their older service rifles are high caliber and a blast to shoot, though many also love the AR too, they are made by Sig, by HK, the american-made are rarer but quite the collection piece. Sadly too many M4s here are cheap Norinco knock-offs, the real OGs are highly sought after ! I have a weak spot too for cold war oldies, high powered rifles, but love me an AR anyday and also your great .45 caliber ! Thanks for the full auto showcase as it's quite the sight and pretty rare, even in the french army firing full auto with the FAMAS was discouraged as its rof is too high so it left the barrel blue and we didn't get a lot of spares ! We relied upon the belgian-made Minimi for that, I think the US military calls it the M249, awesome weapon and very lightweight for it's punch. The M16 seems more controllable than the FAMAS, no wonder why nowadays they replaced them with 416s anyway. It is a bit of a shame, any newbie could shoot reliably at 300 meters with it, and the old hands up to 800 meters easily, lightweight and compact, never jammed on me either except firing blanks. The AKM and the OG Armalite are both legendary firearms in any case, keep it up !
Hickocks so humble, He is the godfather of firearms!
lol he's calling everyone peasants lmao
Really? Guns have been around a lot longer than youtube!
@@stevesparks2001 yes I know this, I like watching him he knows a lot about firearms and he is also a hell of a shot!
@@robbirob825he was calling the viet cong peasants. Because that’s who used the AK in Vietnam dummy
@@daltonpoff5051he shoulders the weapon in his right hand while using his left eye to aim. It’s a classic rookie mistake that gets addressed day one of the rifle range in basic training
The mic is getting blown out with the M16 🤣
I have been following you since 2008. You are the original channel for the 2A community and run genuine channel. Thanks for providing such wholesome and educational videos to the world for over 15 years. Bless you sir. As to your question for veterans, I used an M16 in the early phase of Iraq and an M4 for the rest of my 20 year career. The only malfunctions I ever had were with blanks or extremely ill-maintained hand me down magazines. It is perfect in every way.
Thank you for your service! OHARNG as a Small Arms Repairman and Section Chief, 1980-86. I have inspected thousands of M16A1s. But I had to repair very few. I agree with you. Blanks are not reliable. Magazines that were circulated around were the biggest problem. This was especially true with the 30rd magazines. Also, maintenance is very important. My issue was the M16a1 with M203 Grenade launcher. Loved it! Hickok is absolutely correct...ergonomics are awesome! If the M16/M4 were garbage the military would have ceased its use a long time ago.
Сидит такой америкашка тупой в джунглях Вьетнама дне видимость 2-3 метра и думает😊
А не заказать ли мне с АлиЭкспресса прицел на свою м16😊
Тут же выбегает партизан в шлепках и трусах и нажимает курок АК -47.
И уже на небесах американец думает. Заберёт ли его технологичную м-16 себе.
I used an M16 when I was in the Army (no combat) in the early 80s. It performed well and was pretty accurate out to 300 meters.
me playing counter strike be like
A Galil in 5.56 vs. an M16 would be an interesting comparison. Also, a high end M4 with the latest, greatest kit vs. an “Alpha” AK 74 would be great. Comparison videos are always fun to watch!
Alpha ak74 and alpha ak105s are my favorite types of guns, turned me from an ar guy to ak guy lol
Maybe share the AKM or the AK-74 might be a better comparison.
The Ak is just to inaccurate for me. I want a gun that shoots straight.
@@David-nc5dl AK is just as accurate as a M4.
The galil 556 is nice.
@@matthewwagner47 have you ever seen a scope on the ak? Nope. And probably never will. The Ak will never be as accurate or "just as accurate" as the M4 platform. The ak should be in a museum lol
Best regards from Germany 🙂 A very classic gun comparison. I like it!
Let me start by saying that I grew up in a house full of weapons. My father was an Air Force pilot. I served with the Marines. When I was in boot camp I was issued the M16/A1. I absolutely loved that weapon. It was a lightweight and a very accurate RIFLE. I Came across the Ak47 years after I left the Marines, while I was with the "contras" in Latin America. I immediately realized that these two weapons were not even in the same category. The Soviet Union designed the Ak47 as a fully automatic fire suppression platform much as the PPSH was. The M16/A1 was a rifle with an intermediate cartridge, but it was still a rifle. And this is why you can't compare "apples & oranges." The Ak goes from safe to auto, the M16 from safe to semi. What I found is that in a jungle environment, the Ak is far better. Why? Besides reliability, the 7.62x39 doesn't tumble when it hits branches or foliage the 5.56 does. That's my experience.
Huh? AKs’ go safe, semi, auto. M-16 go safe, semi, burst.
M4 go safe, semi, auto. Come on.
AK goes from safe semi auto.
when i left the Corps i ended up working with bob poo's CMAG's i did 18's months with victor chamaros COE 11' det it's where i got my ivan-47' and my cuban army officers belt buckle and a few good photos of me and my contra brothers 3' americans and 9' Nicaraguans and 2' miskito Indians out of the camps in tecigulapa honduras
@@MD--sy4ml That was just M16 A4's that had burst. A1/A2 had full
@@MD--sy4mlget off the game lil bro rifles have different configorations not every m16 had burst they where full auto m16 and some m4s had burst how bout you go shoot some guns or get in the army
The overloaded mic with the M16 is so cool. Makes it sound like a space gun.
Yeah, and if one doesn't have his ears on tight, it will "overload" the eardrums, for sure. Anybody who has one of these staged for that "bump in the night" had better have some good ear protection staged, as well. One shot indoors, and my brain would be mush. :-)
@@hickok45 I've had to shoot an AR in an enclosed space with no ear protection and my God, my hearing was gone for three days but thank God it came back.
I went to Vietnam in '67 as a rifleman and yes my M16 jammed on me in combat. I got one of the newer M16s in Feb. or March of '68 and never had another problem. I fired a captured AK and really liked it but in talking to some SF guys who had more experience with the AK than I did they swore by the M16 in comparison.
Aks just hit harder and are very accurate anything up to 350-400metres, the 7.62 used to shred through trees and branches during the Vietnam war and hit their targets with the fact it never jammed
I heard stories that SF guys also love Degtyaryov PD(RPD), usually they would cut the barrel short and attached with suppressors. Very useful in the jungle.
Swore by M16 in comparison - what does that mean? Don't get it.
@@TheFaveteLinguis It means that they preferred the M16...without thinking twice about it
@@shaquileoatmeal7365 got it, thank you.
My Father did 3 combat tours in Vietnam in 101st Airborne Division ...And what he used to bring up is how many younger guys would panic under fire because the M16 would jam alot. He also mentioned, quite frequently , that even though it was illegal to do, they would pick up and use the AK47. He said you could pick up an AK out of a muddy swamp and it would fire like brand new...I'm aware now that reliability is greatly improved
Look up some mud tests with AK rifles they always fail since the loose tolerances let mud into the rifle while AR15 platform rifles always easily pass since they have tight tolerances which don’t let mud in and a dust cover
@@dariodicarlo8745 all those are chinese or romaninan replicas. Try some real russian authentic akm or ak 74m they simply never jam.
@@lacroix1159 The best AKs aren’t even Russian lol 😂🤣 the best ones are zastavas and even those jam especially in mud or sand
@@dariodicarlo8745 ROFL. Zastava rifle hardly can be considered from ak series.
@@lacroix1159 Tell me do Russian AKs have some kind of magic metal mud cannot stick to? Did mikhail kalashnikovs spirit bless all Russian AKs to never once have mud get in the bolt or trigger assembly? Cause you’re making all these excuses that a Russian AK would never jam yet with an AR15 even a 500 dollar poverty tier rifle would easily dump a whole mag even after being chucked in the mud with the dust cover down
Love both. The M4 was my favorite during my time in the Marine Corps. As much as I love the AR platform, I think the AK wins in my book. The AK opened up my eyes when I tried one out. I field stripped it and noticed the design is so simple. Just the recoil spring, bolt carrier, and bolt. Less moving parts and less parts to keep up with compared to the AR.
The Ak is just to inaccurate for me. I want a gun that shoots straight.
@@cartererickson5819 seems like a shooter error to me. There’s youtubers like AK Operator showing that AK’s are accurate. I think the misconception is when people first shoot an AKM, the 7.62x39 has a completely different bullet trajectory than that of a 5.56x45 so they don’t know their holdovers at different distances.
And AR has only 1 moving part in the partial disassembly - a bolt, and a handle. So, it is a much simpler design than AK in service disassembly, it takes less than 10 seconds to take apart M16 for partial disassembly, 3 times longer for AK, not to mention that you can replace a barrel of AR/M16 right in the trenches if needed, but AK barrel is pressed in and so cannot be replaced in the field.
You got F for the ability to count rifle parts, and for a knowledge of both rifles design difference.
I too served with the Marines and I agree, the Ak is a better weapon. Did you know that the internals of the Ak are derived from the M-1 Garand? Few know that.
@@cartererickson5819😅an AK is more accurate than u think it is it’s accurate out to 400 meters
For me Ak all day long. It brought us freedom
It's even on the flag of Mozambique and coat of arms of Zimbabwe
My Dad served in the Romanian military and swore on his life that the AK he was issued was the most reliable thing he was issued
Romanian AK's are nice. When I was younger back in the early 2000s I got my hands on Romanian imports when they were still very cheap. Had a SAR-1 in 7.62 and a SAR-3 in 5.56. Each cost under $300, man I wish I kept them. They're hard to find and have gone up in price nowadays.
Glad that people like Hickok45 exist in TN, hence it's still awesome living there! While other places especially NY, CA,MA(and recently NM) are nothing short of hell, with dumbfuc*s asking why more gun control ain't doin' sh*t about the crime rate!!!
❤ Hickok45!
The answers are never so simple as people would hope to believe.
“MORE” gun control ?!? There’s NO gun control - that’s the problem.
@@michaelcharette8509 So criminals will heed new laws??
Maybe there should be a law “Thou Shalt Not Murder.” Oh, but there already is such a law! But people are still being murdered rape and robbed! When did criminals & murders start following laws? People your train of thought, that think we need more gun laws are helping the criminals to rob, rape, murder the law-abiding citizens! You don't hear about the people that saved their lives or someone else's life because they had a gun, with a several round magazine! MSM don't want you to hear about those individuals. Most people that die of gun fire is from suicides, and drug dealers! You want to be like Mexico that has a ban guns, it is ran by the Drug cartels!
@@michaelcharette8509please explain
A Troop 3/4 Calvary here, I hauled troops and I hauled ammo from the ammo dump. The paperwork for an opened case drove the range officer crazy so myself and the range Seargent had a few of the troops leave their 16s back and we went through the remaining ammo in the case. Not one jam or misfire. I even had the opportunity to fire an AK while stationed at Fort Bliss and that was a beast.
@@marktate4466Thank you but no thanx needed, proud to serve. Would do it again but 64 now, lol.
An RSO worth his weight would have taken the time to use that ammo for proper additional training opportunities for his unit and or saved the ammunition for a later training event. As fun as that is, that is the reason we don’t have ample trigger time anymore, because people like that waste unit funds.
I was stationed at Ft. Bliss. 5-52 ADA.😁
@@dhackstall1 Ist of the third Herd Calvary
@hellomynameis2767 shut up, honestly you ass. I'm active duty, we spend 12 hours on the range already. You push that out to 20 you will have someone getting shot. The military loves to waste our time as is.
I realize it now but when I was in the Army I was not an M-16 fan but now I realize the overwhelming issues I had were the magazines. The Army loved to give you old worn out magazines. Today Magpul mags have me loving the AR platform.
You are 100% correct
i've shot both when i was in the army infantry in the early 2000s. We had the M16A2 version at that time which were in the process of being phased out. While the M16 was fairly dependable, it still jammed way too much for comfort even after thorough cleaning. Everytime i pulled the trigger it was always in the back of my mind that it could jam. I never had that experience of anxiety with the AK, add in the stronger stopping power, i'd take it over the M16 anyday, dependability was my top priority when it came to my weapons.
Amen 2 that. If it james it dosen't matter how much more accurate it is at any yardage/meters.
Yikes. That A2 was easily 20 years old in the '00s though, they were originally fielded in the early 80's. Was it clapped out pretty bad? Any idea of the barrel round count, amount of gas hole erosion, buffer spring round count, etc.? Did they even teach you how to check the gas rings?
I had the A4 in 11B and 11C OSUT (went through Basic twice), which is as far as my military career went, but we put at least 100 live rounds and a ton of blanks through it per cycle in '06, and I didn't have a single jam between either of them. Those things were as reliable as the sunrise. Ditto for my home rolled rifles I have now, which are put together with a range of parts from budget to mid-tier. They've never handed with steel, 223, or 5.56. They're definitely the more maintenance intensive rifle though, compared to the AK
@@bushwacker2048Bro, nobody in my unit knew any of that, we had experts higher up to worry about all of that, all we cared about was whether the weapons we were assigned was reliable or not and for me, it worked well enough if you pretended not to notice how dependable the AK was in comparison. Like i said, it was in the process of being phased out for the M4 while i was there, i was happy when we were issued them, it was definitely an improvement in reliability but still jammed on occasion if you got lazy in the maintenance of it.
@@stuka80 oh I believe it. The reliability I experienced probably had a lot to do with those crazy white-glove rifle cleanliness inspections the drill Sargeants did after every range/blank round training day, lol
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I have an AK , SKS, and about 12 AR's! I feel just as you do! they are both great guns! love the content keep it up
Perfect Timing. Always Great To Wake Up To A Hickok Upload To A Classic Debate In The Gun World. Whatever Your Preference, Videos Like This Never Get Old. Hickok We Appreciate You & Everything You Do. You Truly Are The Bob Ross Of Firearms.
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I'd say more of a Julia Child Of The Firearm World:0
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It was always funny to me in all those "AK vs M16" or "AK vs AR" videos that Americans think they know the performance of an AK... from using Chinese, or Bulgarian, or even American made AKs.
It's like judging the quality of Dolce&Gabbana clothes by a Chinese rip-off of Dolce&Gabbana.
That m16 sounds like pure anti-communism
You have to find a bigger tree to hide behind, if an AK is being fired at you though.
I love the “fun switch” ! ! ! 💥💥💥
Oh yeah baby semi-auto 3 round burst and my personal favorite COME GET SOME!!!! LOL
@@michaelcoulter1725 Haha! Yep! 💪🏻
@@HillbillyNitroUSA yes sir
being a combat veteran from Vietnam there was something else the difference in sound when fired. In some firefights we didn't see the enemy we saw muzzle flashes we often fired at the flash and the different sound. I used to laugh at some veterans who said during afire fight that they would pick up an AK-47 and fight with it. If they did that, they would be subject to friendly fire
who is enemy ....2 mama s boy
AK is more simple, effective, no need maintenance and it’s excellent gun for any condition.
Did you not watch the video? He said the reliability of the AK is hype. M16 is more accurate, and in some test, beat out the ak in reliability. Shoots faster, farther, more versatile, newer tech, newer gun, ect…
I remember Lee Ermey did a comparison of the AK and M16 on History Ch, man that was a fun series to watch.
I sure miss him. A fond memory of mine is getting to chat with him at SHOT Show out on the shooting range a few years ago.
Greetings from Missouri. I have both an AK and an AR. I enjoy firing the AK a little better, though the AR sights are much more accurate.
Let's make a premise: Kalashnikov and Stoner designed their creatures with battlefields in mind, not sports, okay? both are fine for playing, it depends on taste, like choosing a car, a motorbike, ok lightness, aesthetics, feeling... but in the tough clashes of the front line, far from supplies, when I don't have the comfortable table at home to clean the gun and sometimes even the time, facts demonstrate that the Ak's piston system is more reliable. In fact, the latest and most expensive versions of the AR platform have a piston system. Very good, it's not a simple coincidence, it's a choice.
That’s inaccurate. Stoner’s original design was meant for the civilian market.
@@coryhoggatt7691it’s kinda true and not true
Education instead of ending lives for fun , this guy clearly has a good respect for the use of the firearms great videos
It often comes down to personal preference and the specific context of use. The AK is known for its reliability and simplicity, making it effective in harsh conditions. On the other hand, the M16 is praised for its accuracy and versatility. Ultimately, the choice between the two depends on factors like the shooter's needs and preferences, as well as the intended use of the firearm
M16 baby!
I bought my full auto AR about 15 years ago, brand new Colt for 13K. Those two weapons he is shooting probably ran about 50-60K. They really are getting stupid expensive.
I feel like a DIAS with paperwork would be a better investment than an M-16 because then any AR, (from old and clapped out to the latest and greatest Gucci model) can be made to waste ammo at a bank breaking rate “legally”.
I love the ar platform but if i had to choose i think th ak is an all around better rifle and part of that is the fact there used in every country around the world
The M16 cartridge has a greater quantity of gun-powder and a narrower bullet, so it should have a higher muzzle velocity and better range, especially when the bullet isn't too light.
The M16 also has lighter reciprocating parts with small travel distances, so it should also have much lighter recoil.
The M-16 also has a barrel that is 4 inches longer, so should also have longer range and greater accuracy because of that.
The M16 also has a muzzle brake, which should dampen both flash and muzzle recoil/barrel drift.
The AKM/AK47 has a larger bullet with a smaller quantity of gunpowder, a shorter barrel, and larger reciprocating mass and travel, so it should have a shorter range and greater recoil.
The AK74 has has a narrower bullet, with a smaller quantity of gunpowder, a shorter barrel, and almost the same reciprocating mass, but it has a muzzle-brake, too, so it should have negligible recoil, but a shorter range than the M16 because of the smaller gunpowder and barrel.
I've not fired these in 40 years. It was difficult, but I could control the AK-47 on full-auto for 3 round bursts. I could control the AK74 almost indefinitely; it had very negligible recoil.
I've never used the M4. Is it as easy to control as the M16 even with the shorter barrel?
The AKM is crude, not well-machined, with larger clearances, so doesn't jam that easily.
The M16 is finely machined, so can jam with just a little sand or dirt.
I'll prefer the AKM for reliability, and, perhaps, carry the M4 in the vehicle, but only if I can keep it clean, or, else I might opt for the AK74.
I've not used the M16 much, but the gas-impingement mechanism seems far more fragile than the AK's gas-rod, which would be very hard to break.
Unless it's close quarter combat, where nano second delays can result in fatalities, I'd choose something that doesn't fail and requires very little maintenance.
Both of these are iterations of the German STG44 that used a 7.92X33 bullet, and came into production towards the end of WWII. The Germans were impressed with the Russian PPSh-43's 7.62X25mm bullet that enabled it to carry 75 rounds and fire with very modest recoil, so they chose a small cartridge.
The Russians came up with the Ppsh-43 after they'd been massacred by the Finns in forests where you couldn't maneuver a long rifle. They just copied the Finnish SMG, which was also based on the same Mauser cartridge.
I think, the AK was successful because of its reliability and shorter barrel. The M-16's barrel wasn't too practical for most situations, and that's why you have the shorter M4.
I, personally, prefer long barrels for hunting and smaller SMGs for vehicular and home defense.
The Gewehr98 had a 29 or 30-inch barrel, whereas the Kar98 carbine, still had a 23/24 inch barrel, but then air power, artillery, and precision weapons came in, so, now, small arms are used at very close ranges, hence people prefer smaller ones that you can maneuver in enclosed spaces and are light enough to quickly point and aim.
I carried a M-60 in the Army infantry for 5 years and never had any problems with it. I took it through all kinds of weather conditions, mud, sand, rainforest to deserts. Never failed me. I got a M-4 through pretty much the same conditions and it broke within twice in 4 years. The gas tube exploded and the trigger mechanism broke at the hammer spring and hammer. I much prefer the M-60. I’ve even “battlefield resupplied with the AK-47 and I think it’s more reliable than the M-16 stile rifle. But my heart goes to the M-60.
@Jason7.62x39 The only part that you can install backwards is the gas piston. All other parts are one way fit.
The M60 stopped being used in 1994 ..
@@richardpickett3882thats correct sir..But what I liked about it is you could adjust the rate of fire..
@@swampghost72 Ok. And I joined in 89. I’m kind of an old guy
@@swampghost72 you’re thinking of the 240b. The 60 was a steady 550 per minute
Great review. Both guns are great and equally necessary in all sorts of conditions.
Name one ?
@@atg1338 world war
@@metalc0readd1ct blah blah blah
Guns?
@@opiumtrail7032 25:23 specifically for you mo ron.
I like M16 more over AK 47,the sound on m16 is super nice… more faster too..
6:49 Hickok made a mistake here. The term "intermediate cartridge" refers to calibers such as 5.56x45mm (.223 Rem) and 5.45x39mm, which were made to replace their "full-length" counterparts 7.62x51 NATO (.308 Win) and 7.62x39 for use by regular foot soldiers. He mentioned the AK and SKS, which both fire the 7.62x39 cartridge. Most modern army's service rifles are chambered for intermediate calibers, whereas full-length cartridges are typically reserved for "battle rifles", DMRs, and some sniper rifles.
I’d never pick anything over the AK
При всем уважении, сравнивать М16 нужно с АК-74, а не АКМ (да я знаю, что это ТИП-56, но это копия АКМ с игольчатым штыком. Напишу уточнение специально, для умников в комментариях).
That would be a more accurate comparison.
You're absolutely right brother It has more in common with the 74 Have you ever heard of a Chinese 84S1 It's basically a 74 chambered in 556
Нет, не слышал о таком. Сейчас загуглил нашел 84S-5, полуавтомат, я так понял это оружие для гражданских. @@chevyvet69
U.S. Army, in country 1971. I never had an issue with my M16A1. I cleaned it everyday and put a prophylactic over the muzzle to prevent rain from entering the barrel of my weapon. The instructions were in the form of a comic book😀
Thank you for your service! I was later 89-93 as an Army MP.
@@vornado8715 I was an MP too(95B).
God bless you both for your service@@vornado8715
Keeping an M-16 clean is paramount!
If you can keep it clean you can confidently shoot 300 meters with deadly accuracy and no problems
Can we all agree that a Hickok45/ Brandon Herrera episode should happen?? They both love the 7.62x39. What more do you need to agree on?lol
But seriously, getting some of these younger RUclips gun channels to do collabs with some of the more traditional would be awesome!
Eh...
All the zoomer channels kinda suck, too much jib jab and stupid commentary
negatory
less than zero interest here
In 1971 the instructors would put in the groin area and chin to show the low recoil.
They were still doing that in 82 when I did my basic.
AK wasn’t actually based off the STG and has basically nothing in common with it mechanically. It instead was based off the M1 Garand (actually mentioned in Kalashnikov’s notes) and has clear influence from other American and Russian rifles, most notably the Remington Model 8. The only similarity the AK has to an STG is (maybe) it’s silhouette and the two of them can kinda fill the same role. The AR rifles however have a lot in common with the STG and even takedown similarly.
Ammo design...
@@dallesamllhals9161SMGs were the future which WW-1 old men didn't understand. Rifles today are basically carbine length shooting like SMG but added advantage of some range depending on ammo
@@destroyerarmor2846 SMG?? Really!? Veteran from the '00s...i might know a bit about that 😛 but thanks for the enlightenment... SMGs....tee-hee
Influenced from the stg in terms of an automatic, select fire rifle in an intermediate cartridge. But yeah its mechanically influenced by the garand
@@Myemnhk SVT = Garand?
I was playing GTA 3 the other day, and I was always curious about the comparison between the ak and the m16 in real life as they sound terrifying in the game. Now I know in real life, once again, a great video from hickok45 👍👍
Awesome game! But the M16 had crazy af speed lol! One of best and darkest GTAs!
Yeah, i wouldn’t rely on video games as the best sources of knowledge and information on firearms lol. Kind of like not relying on a game like fornite to teach you how to build a house or something. As far as gta goes, you would think the 5.56 m4/AR is a stronger, more powerful cartridge and firearm bc of how the game presents them since they make the AK a weaker rifle. And that’s is the complete opposite of the truth. The 5.56 cartridge doesn’t have S*** on 7.62. Plus the AK rifle itself, is the bigger beast
In FO4, I have to use mods to adjust the rate of fire for the handmade(AKS) and M4 mods because either they fire too fast or too slow compared to their real counterparts. Sound mods for them also add a neat immersion of realism.
But yeah, one can hear the difference, for example, in a Type56 cycling at a realistic 550 rpm vs 700 rpm. Getting the cycling rates right on any gun is just satisfying to listen to.
@@jakeh6980The 7.62 does indeed deliver more energy, but the 5.56 is better at piercing armor. Depending on the system you use them in, there's also the occasional unintended tumbling of the 7.62 bullet as it travels, making it easier for armor to resist, but devastating any unarmored targets getting hit with it.
They're different bullets that accomplish different tasks one better than the other, leaving the choice of which is better up to the user. I'm fond of the 7.62 for my jack rifle, altho I avoid surplus soviet ammo due to its corrosiveness. But it (well, used) to be cheap to get in bulk lolz.
I would love to see you do a video on the zpap m70 if you haven't already
Great video . I will say the AK-103 is much better than M-4.
I'm for accuracy, and reliability, so the M16 is my choice.
Mannnnnnn!! full auto gave me chills!!! Marine Corps in the late 80s and early 90s. Only had 3 round burst A2 then. I worked in the armory so i did get to play with and shoot many different full auto weapons. But love those full autos there. Of course, there is still nothing like the sound of the M60. Get ya one of those Hickok! lol
I believe his son John has the m60
You guys must be doin pretty good financially to be able to afford those 4x4s haha
I chose the AK
In 1970 at Fort Dix NJ we were taught when using Full Auto at a close target to start by aiming low left and it generally lifts up to the right.
Thats true sir..They once taught that..But that is no longer taught..They teach you techniques to fire accurate with control..
I used to be in the military, I have gone to the range many times with the M16 and later with the M4a2. Despite the fact that many youtubers claim that the ar15 platform is more reliable than the AK, I find it VERY hard to believe. My rifle always jammed or had some issue or another. Yes Ar15 is more accurate, has less recoil but thats all the point I can give it. The AK is still around the world for a reason.
completely agree. Funny how service members who have shot m4's and m16's for thousands and thousands of rounds can always recall issues with them. My m4 jammed probably 8-10 times during just a couple of ranges. They're not ideal. AK is even easier to clean as well so if it's a cleaning issue you'll have less jams as a result of ease of access regardless.
AKs are cheap… that’s why everyone else has em. The reliability is just icing on the cake.
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Tell me this, how come everyone who has akm's are dumping them as soon as they get access to m4s....
I agree, and im not against the AR platform. I like both, but chose AK. Maybe the weight means nothing to me being a relatively big guy.
As a die hard ak guy it's so frustrating to see him have one of very few that are around a transferable type 56 I would do some strange things for one
I chose the Ak because I feel that it's more robust and powerfull than the M16; The M16 is more accurate and lighter. I had 10 Ak-47 style rifles and 2 Ak-74 types, I also had 3 M16/AR15 types and I just prefer the AK.
you have to do your homework first 1947 that was the first one and no one is using it anymore the first modification after that came in 1974 were two of them , AKM -74 in standard size in 5.56 cal.which is NATO standard 223 cal.and one in short size comparable to your M4, it's called AKM 74-U. so USSR was way ahead of United States at the time because, USA had only M -16 size in 1974 and they did not have short version of it yet which came out after 1985 in M-4 size, so basically USA copied from Soviet Union AKM 74-U so they would have shorter version of M -16 too. After that, another modification of AKM came in 2012 and 2015 and both of them have Picatinny rail I and they are made out of combination, polymer and steel no wood. Then the latest modification came for the army in 2020 weighs 3 pounds most of it is polymer and specially coated steel operational in temperatures -65 and +65 centigrate and all Russian ammunition is same operational at the same temperature, and all AKM modifications come in three calibres 5.56-223 and 7.62 and 5.54. And as far as combat efficacy resistant to water and sand and excessive amounts of dust, and mud, AKM's with capability like that manufactured only in USSR, or President Russian Federation because of manufacturing and welding secret. And as far as this is the weapon for peasants, not true, the simplicity of it designed to give a soldier ability to clean it when jammed as fast as he can, in high intensity, combat situation, unlike M-16 or #4 get jammed all the time because internal parts are too close to each other and gunpowder gases buildup too fast in high intensity combat situations. And M -16 is a bitch to take apart when your life is at stake. So basically, it's only good enough for Hollywood movies. Also, in Russia, there are other modifications of AKM - 200 or 300.
Ergonomics on AKs are different but not worse than those of the AR. The issue most Americans have is that they go with the more traditional upright stance whereas the AK demands you to take a far more aggressive and modern forward stance. It REALLY requires you to not be afraid to practically plant your face to the receiver. Once you get that down, it’s just as controllable as an AR, in fact I would argue it’s more controllable if you happen to be someone with a smaller frame. I would also argue that the AK’s manual of arms are easier for a novice shooter than those of the AR.
I would beg to differ on the ergomonics part;
There was a series a channel by the name of "the wound channel" had made that he since deleted from his channel (but not before it was archived) where he would take brand new and inexperienced shooters, and challenged them to load (including loading rounds into the magazine), aim and shoot both an AK and an AR without instruction. It eventually changed to various other guns, but the first few involved only those two rifles.
Of the 3 or 4 people he tested, all figured out how to operate the AR far faster than the AK, with the AKs biggest obstacle being the stiff safety most eastern bloc produced AKs have and figuring out how to insert the magazine properly.
The AR just has objectively better and more intuitive ergonomics than the AK does, which is why everybody is copying its ergos vs the AK.
patently worse
Now try not getting a black eye from a G3A3 😁
I like the ergonomics of the AK for that very reason. That’s my preferred stance
@@burnyburnoutze2nddoesn’t that just make them stupid if the gun is designed for small children
I've carried the M4 since I joined the Navy in 2003 and my 2 major complaints are being address with the new Sig MCX. I never liked the M4 charging handle and wanted a side charging option and I wanted the ability to send the bolt home with my right thumb.
Want a Sig Spear LT but it has the standard charging handle like the AR15. This alone is almost making me consider the CZ Bren 2.
I researched for this question (ak 47 vs m16 ) about 2 years. And I realized that non of them are better than each other.
Correct
Both hurt a lot, wouldn’t want to get hit with neither 🤷🏼♂️
The AK is better for zombie apocalypse or nuclear wasteland lol
@@destroyerarmor2846 just like an m16.
@@schorschels what the hell you saying bro, these things are actually designed for doing their holy job.
AK are better than all west projects and i ll answer you why. THEY PAY ATTENTION ON USSABILITY AND RELIABILITY PLUS COST . THATS WHY A LADA NIVA WILL ALLWAYS BE BETTER than a wrangler jeep . dirt cheap and works. Parts you can find everywhere for penies. But now in europe we no longer have the oportunity to buy a cheap lada or an Ak. Your politicians blocked them all we can buy an AR a Jeep with 100000 euro but no LADA niva anymore ......
Mikhail Kalashnikov said in an interview with Magnum Magazine (South Africa), when he was asked to redesign the AK47/AKM for the 5.45 round, that he wasn't in favour of the smaller calibre, but he did it anyway as someone else would have done it in his place.
Please never die
What a strange thing to say!
@@GetsugaTensho85 old man survived coweed, it correct wish, but we know...
I've always HATED this argument. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
So what do you do then? Carry both?
They're guns bro
@@JamesGetsAllTheGirls We are not bros. You don't know me.
@@junior3429 I carry nunya.
@@junior3429 he hates it because he can't afford either one 😂
Every American Should have one of each.
My dad was in Nam '69-70 and served 2 tours, He was a drill sergeant. He said he had a AK because the M-16 sucked that bad along with the LAW. Both were horrible.
certain AKM magazines have a hold bolt open feature. the zastava waffle mags have it..
I had the A1 in basic, jammed every time at the range. Qualifying as a sharpshooter instead of expert because of it. We were taught S.P.O.R.T.S. an acronym for
Slap...the magazine
Pull...the charging handle
Observe...the chamber
Release...the charging handle
Tap... the forward assist
Shoot.
Didn't work half the time. AR15/M16 has come a long way. I love both platforms.
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Do you still have your Springfield m1a1 scout squad? Time for another video with it🙏 . The m4 worked great for me in Iraq and Afghanistan. Love to see you shoot your flintlock again too .thank you
Do one with AK105 in 5.45 if it's possible. It would be the most similar to that M16. Shot it a couple of days ago and that thing barely moves.
AK 47 ALL THE WAY
I have a Ak47 & Draco pistol both cerakote finish.
Imo, nothing comes close to the AK. Both virtually indestructible, they'll work in any conditions.
The M16 doesn't even come close.
Ex16 Air Assault Brigade & 22regt Special Air Service 'B' Squadron.
The fact that you cant hear the M16 at full auto in the video makes it so epic lol
Shooting full auto with either of these rifles is a waste of ammo, accuracy is poor, semi is the best option.
In actual combat I'd pick the AK platform anyday, slightly better durability and easier disassemble are a worthy trade off for slightly worse accuracy.
I love the look of the commando M16. Looks like it’s right out of an 80’s action movie and sounds incredible on FA. Great video.
Me too. In Blackhawk Down, the Delta guys carried some badass CAR 15s, Commandos, etc.
Not a game or video. Its real
@@rodneyalaking8241I particularly loved their M14s ! With a .45 sidearm... what a great kit
AK is best