Why , black friezas biggest fear was one shorting a battle worn UiGoku and UE vegeta , Gohan beast did the same knocked fresh ui goku out of the form , I can understand if you said debatable but nah it ain’t delusional dude 😂
@@lasthope3237 it is delusional it didn't knock goku out he was fine after it was just a spar and goku didn't even go full power he didn't even use sussuno
That’s what I was about to say 🤣 plus everyone skips the panel where goku says “it wasn’t about winning against gohan. I just wanted to test his strength.” Then he tells gohan that he’s relieved that earth has a strong protector for when he isn’t available
Really? Cause in my mind this is: 5 SSJ Rage Trunks 4 Ultimate Gohan 3 Full Power Super Saiyan 2 Beast Gohan 1 Black Frieza 3-5 doesn't really have set multipliers imo. Also an honorable mention is Gold frieza
Goku wasn't trying against gohan, he was gauging his growth, Vegeta was in Ssg Blue evolved, not ultra ego, and broly is a newb who pushed gohan to get serious. Black frieza is stronger...
@@CB-ty5jh he didn't wish for the form It was a gift Also if you create a coin from metal than it's metallic, isn't it? If the money is coming out of thin air than it is magical
I can admit that I am a db meat rider but saying beast form beats black frieza is on a whole other level of riding. You could start a ranch to give out rides. God dang
Frieza made them groan in pain he one shot them both. While gohan punch or kicked goku of of ultra instinct for a brief moment but then got right back into it. And goku won that fight 😅
Frieza, while impressively killing Gas and knocked out Goku and Vegeta, knocked out an exhausted Goku and Vegeta, as well as a decaying, tired Gas. As for the Gohan fight, it was more a draw than a real winner. As Goku saw what he wanted to see in Gohan. But Gohan showed insane levels of power for such little previous experience with the Beast form, even able to take on a near raging Broly and, I believe to be a SSGSSJE Vegeta, not Ultra Ego. Plus keep in mind that those three spars alone would have launched Gohan’s power, as saiyan v saiyan is the best possible training method for them. Regardless, it is a close debate, and I can’t wait to see it elaborated.
Black Frieza one-tapped MUI and UE simultaneously. Beast outmanoeuvred and struck MUI, Goku still being able to keep fighting. Black Frieza > Beast (and probably MUI, Broly and UE if they fought with Gohan)
nah putting beasts above black ftieza delusional and also he never fought ultra ego why are lying ? What you showed was super saiyan or super saiyan blue stop the cap
Beast Gohan isn't stronger than Black Frieza The Manga completely contradicts and debunks that claim It's been debunked and contradicted before the Manga has even done the Super Hero ARC Plus are we just going to ignore that Goku easily got straight back up and went straight back into UI, which Goku said himself that he wasn't fighting Gohan to beat him, which means he was holding back, but despite Goku holding back and Gohan going all out, Goku was still able to air push Gohan back after having his attention towards Broly and also the fact that Vegeta was actually only using *Super Saiyan Blue* against Beast Gohan, which Beast Gohan wasn't toying with anybody. Man talk about leaving out a lot of context. And I mean *A LOT* of context Now I can literally right a whole "essay" that has only 80% of my arguments to prove how this is false information, but I really don't have the patience to put all of that stuff down
1) Goku was mostly uninjured and re-entered almost immediately. 2) Vegeta was in Super Saiyan Blue. Are we reading the same manga? 3) Why is Gohan even over Black Freiza here? Lmao
So? Frieza one shotted tui AND ue vegeta at the same time with no effort, gohan had to unleash his full power just to hit goku once, and that wasnt ultra ego, that was ssb or ssbe, stop spreading false info
@@uival3524bro wym it's canon to the anime I think you forgot about the movie or something and it's the closest we have to end of z and also heavily involved toriyama unlike the manga the one in the manga is the more like what if changed a lot in the movie and waiting for like a year + for the same experience was not worth it
@christopher4249 @souhaibdokkan5133 I was saying might not be cause I ain't willing to deal with a fight over something so basic ik it's canon but some people will start shit over the stupidest things so I ain't always willing to deal with it so I meet them at halfway so they don't start anything
Listen I’m sorry to anyone who likes gohan but I hate how you wasn’t relevant for the longest time then you come back all powerful just because your a mix breed saiyan that watched his unreal father get pieced up now you running fades with broly and making beerus nervous this form was unearned and underserved honestly I would have been fine if this was a movie that put piccolo in the spotlight bc he only had that one moment I can think of in z when he fought android 17 but I hate the fact how gohan gets a form that wasn’t earned
Nah gohan above black frieza is just delusional
Why , black friezas biggest fear was one shorting a battle worn UiGoku and UE vegeta , Gohan beast did the same knocked fresh ui goku out of the form , I can understand if you said debatable but nah it ain’t delusional dude 😂
@@lasthope3237 it is delusional it didn't knock goku out he was fine after it was just a spar and goku didn't even go full power he didn't even use sussuno
@@lasthope3237 also goku and vegeta were healed couple panels earlier also frieza oneshot gas in base form
Vegeta was in regular super blue blue so read the manga
@@lasthope3237but after knocking goku out he went right back in, undamaged?
When does Ultra Ego have eyebrows? Oh wait it doesn’t That means it’s SSJ Blue
That’s what I was about to say 🤣 plus everyone skips the panel where goku says “it wasn’t about winning against gohan. I just wanted to test his strength.” Then he tells gohan that he’s relieved that earth has a strong protector for when he isn’t available
it's was blue evolution I think
@@xAshura_yea for sum reason ppl just think he’s stronger than them
Im sure Whis said that before Gohan used Beast
Is it me or after the movie I’ve been seeing mad Gohan glazing
Agreed
Yep
Yep
He was cooking hard till he burned the kitchen at the end 💀💀
Really? Cause in my mind this is:
5 SSJ Rage Trunks
4 Ultimate Gohan
3 Full Power Super Saiyan
2 Beast Gohan
1 Black Frieza
3-5 doesn't really have set multipliers imo. Also an honorable mention is Gold frieza
@@samt.1356orange piccolo is stronger than 3 of them
Goku wasn't trying against gohan, he was gauging his growth, Vegeta was in Ssg Blue evolved, not ultra ego, and broly is a newb who pushed gohan to get serious. Black frieza is stronger...
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Shenron was Created by earth guardian so it is godly
@@Mahendra_Chaudhary_So using a form you wished for is godly? That’s like sayin if you wish for money then that money is magical or godlike
@@CB-ty5jh he didn't wish for the form
It was a gift
Also if you create a coin from metal than it's metallic, isn't it?
If the money is coming out of thin air than it is magical
@@Mahendra_Chaudhary_ But he did though 💀 and have you seen Aladdin? If you wish for something the money or whatever doesn’t stay magical
@@CB-ty5jh But it's not Aladdin
And he only wished for potential unlock
I can admit that I am a db meat rider but saying beast form beats black frieza is on a whole other level of riding. You could start a ranch to give out rides. God dang
Same brother
Beast being above Black Frieza is crazy cuz if I remember right he ONE SHOT both UE and MUI/TUI
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Was you not reading the same manga as I was Vegeta was not in ultra ego that was his regular super Saiyan blue
I was ready to say that was blue but you got it 👍🏾
Still got cooked
@@yt._.SonGoku BECAUSE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF POWER OF FUCKING BLUE LOST TO BEAST
The gohan glazing is crazy and real😭
Maybe Whis talked about Ub
That was super saiyan blue vegeta not ultra ego
Or maybe Whis talking about Uub. 🧐
nah lol black frieza is EASILY #1
I’m pretty sure goku was tired during super saiyan blue when he fought kale man
Bro what are you on? Gohan didn’t even fight with Vegeta while he was in ultra ego
He didnt hit goku out of ui if u read the chapter he says that he saw that broly wanted to fight so he let him fight gohan
nah whis was not talking about gohan.
Then who?
Dragon Plot Super: top 5 plot transformations
Everything is for a good or bad plot
Wasn't Whis literally talking about Frieza?
Because Frieza was training inside of another planet's Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
I remember when it was called Super Saiyan Rage of Blue
Frieza made them groan in pain he one shot them both. While gohan punch or kicked goku of of ultra instinct for a brief moment but then got right back into it. And goku won that fight 😅
Goku didn’t win, it was more of a tie
Frieza, while impressively killing Gas and knocked out Goku and Vegeta, knocked out an exhausted Goku and Vegeta, as well as a decaying, tired Gas.
As for the Gohan fight, it was more a draw than a real winner. As Goku saw what he wanted to see in Gohan. But Gohan showed insane levels of power for such little previous experience with the Beast form, even able to take on a near raging Broly and, I believe to be a SSGSSJE Vegeta, not Ultra Ego. Plus keep in mind that those three spars alone would have launched Gohan’s power, as saiyan v saiyan is the best possible training method for them.
Regardless, it is a close debate, and I can’t wait to see it elaborated.
Gohan was pulling his punches
@@LaZillagoku was not going full power
@@RoyalGames-pq5kmGoku and Vegeta were at full power and healed when they got one shoted by Freeza,go reread the manga before talking.
vegeta was in evolved super sayian blue
WHO LET THIS MAN COOK
Black Frieza one-tapped MUI and UE simultaneously. Beast outmanoeuvred and struck MUI, Goku still being able to keep fighting.
Black Frieza > Beast (and probably MUI, Broly and UE if they fought with Gohan)
Piccolos Potential unlocked forms?
Idk if this is stolen but they are just trying to replace goku with gohan which is quite sad
Lol what , it’s a natural progression why is it sad 😂
nah putting beasts above black ftieza delusional and also he never fought ultra ego why are lying ? What you showed was super saiyan or super saiyan blue stop the cap
Beast Gohan isn't stronger than Black Frieza
The Manga completely contradicts and debunks that claim
It's been debunked and contradicted before the Manga has even done the Super Hero ARC
Plus are we just going to ignore that Goku easily got straight back up and went straight back into UI, which Goku said himself that he wasn't fighting Gohan to beat him, which means he was holding back, but despite Goku holding back and Gohan going all out, Goku was still able to air push Gohan back after having his attention towards Broly and also the fact that Vegeta was actually only using *Super Saiyan Blue* against Beast Gohan, which Beast Gohan wasn't toying with anybody. Man talk about leaving out a lot of context. And I mean *A LOT* of context
Now I can literally right a whole "essay" that has only 80% of my arguments to prove how this is false information, but I really don't have the patience to put all of that stuff down
Gohan didn't one shot mui and ego therefore by that alone he's under black Frieza
Can they beat devil man though
Vegeta wasn't even using ultra ego I'm pretty sure he was using ssjbe
i'm gonna be mad if they make it so that gohan defeats black frieza
1.plot armor but more hair
2.im not getting canceled over this
3.better kale
4.green vegetable so no yummy
5.super plot armor
1) Goku was mostly uninjured and re-entered almost immediately.
2) Vegeta was in Super Saiyan Blue. Are we reading the same manga?
3) Why is Gohan even over Black Freiza here? Lmao
How do you know hw has in blue there is no color
@midnight8722 it was colored
@@Midnight-MDwell for one ultra ego doesn’t have eyebrows have you not read the granola arc?
@@_xus_ nope don’t own the mangas yet
SSR trunks is a form using god ki
I dont like the last one ngl 🤷♂️
Beast is not the strongest bro freiza solos him
So? Frieza one shotted tui AND ue vegeta at the same time with no effort, gohan had to unleash his full power just to hit goku once, and that wasnt ultra ego, that was ssb or ssbe, stop spreading false info
Dont forget super saiyan 4. Apex saiyan form is better than every god form.
We all know Mui goku is better than beast gohan so how is black frieza below him
Bro everyone over powers super sayain blue goku
You forgot vegeta and Goku's other forms angel goku and mastered ultra ego Vegeta who destroyed frieza
Gohan rage
It would all matter if it was actually canon, but it isnt. Superhero was more of a "What If..."
It might not be canon to the anime but it is canon to manga just like the super Broly movie
Stop coping bro it’s canon.
@@uival3524bro wym it's canon to the anime I think you forgot about the movie or something and it's the closest we have to end of z and also heavily involved toriyama unlike the manga the one in the manga is the more like what if changed a lot in the movie and waiting for like a year + for the same experience was not worth it
@@uival3524super Broly is canon to the manga too, since it’s events were literally referenced in a manga panel before the Moro arc kicked off.
@christopher4249 @souhaibdokkan5133 I was saying might not be cause I ain't willing to deal with a fight over something so basic ik it's canon but some people will start shit over the stupidest things so I ain't always willing to deal with it so I meet them at halfway so they don't start anything
I mean by this logic tho, shouldn’t Jiren be above SSJ rage trunks?
Full power jiren?
Whis said "in our universe" not all
@@johnysada I don’t get what you’re trying to tell me
Mui clears beast
No way Beast Gohan is stronger. I admit he's stronger than Goku but defo not than Black Frieza
Okay kale should be replaced with orange piccolo.
Listen I’m sorry to anyone who likes gohan but I hate how you wasn’t relevant for the longest time then you come back all powerful just because your a mix breed saiyan that watched his unreal father get pieced up now you running fades with broly and making beerus nervous this form was unearned and underserved honestly I would have been fine if this was a movie that put piccolo in the spotlight bc he only had that one moment I can think of in z when he fought android 17 but I hate the fact how gohan gets a form that wasn’t earned
That's wasn't Ultra Ego vegeta 😂
What??? Gohan one shot Goku too???
That wasn't ultra ego he still had eye brows and his hair wasn't purple, it was ssj blue stop meat riding
That is not ultra ego he has eyebrows and he is not above frieza that took down goku and vegeta in seconds
Bro vegeta was ssb
black Frieza claps beast gohan
And super saiyan rage is just a disappointment version of super saiyan 2 literally super saiyan rage isn’t that the whole point of a super saiyan
But They only called the form that name in the dragon ball heroes arcade video games, but its original first appearance name was just “Super Trunks”.
Bro making shit up 😂
Well i Mean Beast is just ssj mystic which is god ki because it was unlocked by kais-🤓