Is the double bladed sword / lightsaber a good weapon?
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- An analysis of double bladed swords and lightsabers to see how effective such weapons would be in real life.
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Single bladed, Double bladed
doesn't matter
High ground always wins
Edit : unless u maul
Am I missing a meme here?
@@inspiringrex1198 ruclips.net/video/yE85edTFpHU/видео.html
Skip to ~50 seconds in if you dislike cringy dialogue or overchoreographed duels. May or may not contain spoilers for a Star Wars film, depending on where you've been in the past 14 years.
@@philippobitz2592 at least they put some effort in the choreography. Unlike Disney
@@loiclangers7010 I've never claimed that they would not have put effort into it and I'm not criticizing the prequels here, this is just the first video that came up when I searched "Star Wars high ground" and I've pointed out where exactly it came from. The comment on the bad writing and two men intentionally avoiding to hit each other for ~20 minutes was not to be taken seriously. I also got no idea where sudden sequel-bashing came from (however justified it may be).
@@philippobitz2592 idk, in my opinion overchoreographed seems like critisism. I was just comparing it to the mess that is Disney when it comes to Star Wars.
"What a piece of junk, there's no point."
Actually there's two.
Why is there 113 likes and no comments lmao
Luke Skywalker said that about the Milinal Falkin too.
@@violetopal6264 Honestly it is, but you can't blame it. All those years of maintenance, having to fish pieces out of scrap because there's absolutely no way of finding the right replacement parts. Any wonder it ended up in the condition it did. But boy is it sure a beauty.
this is getting out of hand now there are two of them
Lol good joke XD
I guess that means Darth Maul's weapon is actually the best lightsaber you could have- it's easy to carry- since you can deactivate it, it's highly intimidating and if you require to have more precise movement, you can just deactivate one blade and use the other.
Adaptability is a hell of a drug.
It's why Bloodborne is the best Souls game. Those sweet, sweet trick weapons...
@@Sines314 ds3 peak ds
True. Second best being Ahsoka Tanks setup of a sabot and a tanto sabor
@@sabre6464 dark souls 3 was dogshit and the most uncreative and lazy game from has ever made.
@@Sines314 Bloodborne isn’t a souls game.
This guy's personality alone made me watch the whole video.
1:39 2:05
I totally agree with you.
He seems like a funny dude
I agree, very enjoyable and very enthusiastic
What personality?
He was so excited lol. Has you hooked on every word
@@k3yr4r, except that he's Australian. The more you know.)
"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick."
half the characters in smash when they need a recovery move:
The real reason inquisitor's lightsabers can make them fly is so that they never have the low ground again. Change my mind
My dudes maul stands no chance to the master of the 8th form which is the fan form: general grievous
Congrats on the best comment
- sincerely, me: your 400th like.
Now this is pod racing
Shad halfway through the video: "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick"
it sure is young anakin, the same way you were brutally mutilated...
Holy shit I read your comment and a second later he mentioned spinning, great timing.
Omg I just bursted out laughing when I read this
Anakin also spins in ep3
I'll try killing younglings, that's a gooooooood trick
The other benefit a lightsaber has over a normal sword is you don’t need to worry at all about edge alignment, making spinning even that much more effective. The downside is you need to control the blades much more to keep them away from your torso, so give and take. When you factor all that in I think how maul uses his double bladed lightsaber makes a lot of sense. Good video, the double bladed lightsaber has always been my favorite science fiction weapon!
If you use a lightsaber, you would most likely spend allot of effort to not burn yourself
@Urazz if your fast as fuck boy, then advantage lmao
@Urazz speed is the primary goal in regular swordfighting. your power mostly comes from rotational force vs flat strength of the user. Same goes for lightsabers, sure you dont need the force to deal damage but you will need it when you get into a bind with another saber user.
Given that this channel goes into practical concerns, it could also be that there's some benefit to having the two blades of the lightsaber connected (or even just have one really long blade that the handle covers up).
I have no idea what the proper explanation for how a lightsaber works is, but Darth Mauls saber might be more than just two lightsabers strapped together.
And you talk about this like the lightsaber is an actual thing. Wtf.
"Remember, a double bladed sword is essentially just a sword with another sword at the other end!"
Yeah, this is big brain time
its a sword with a sword shaped pommel
yes its humoungous cerebral mass time
darth mauls is even better though because it can be transferred to a singlehanded/double handed long sword at any moment, on either side, that shits opop, be really hard to keep track of.
But... Which one is the other end ?
so basically it is "Dual Wield"?
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"Ahh crap, I'm behind that double blade guy again"
Again? Surely they'd have replaced that guy
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Yeah, that's probably another huge reason that this sort of thing never caught on: friendly fire. Or... friendly steel?
Ok, so here is the solution: Get a long stick and put that thing on top of it, basically creating an absolutely not tryharding war pick.
Interestingly, the stuff that makes this an impractical sword makes it a pretty practical lightsaber
Yeah. Most people who go "they wouldn't fight like that" and "that's just not how it would be done" clearly have never wielded the Force or a blade that can cut through steel like butter.
The Great Dear Leader Jim Pickens *Praise the dear leader!!!*
Not to mention you can adopt different fighting styles. Single bladed, long aword, stafe etc.
Darth Mauls double sabre is presented in, what appears to be, a much more practical application with a much longer hilt and shorter blades.
@@ARC-Sev This is exactly what I've been thinking, especially if we're talking a splitsaber (saberstaff which splits in-two), you would have an incredibly variable weapon; a saberstaff, a single-bladed lightsaber with an extended hilt, a sudden switch to dual wielding or individual standard lightsabers (and if we're talking variation, a adding a dual-phase component like Vader's which can change the length of the blade mid-combat would revolutionize this kind of weapon - imagine facing off against a saberstaff and then suddenly your opponent is dual-wielding a shoto and standard lightsaber)
About the spinning technique, you forgot to mention that it can be used to escape dangerous situations by just flying away like a helicopter
Ugh that helicopter lightsaber shit is so awful
@@yukionnaslayer1 I agree, but apparently they had repulsorlifts in them to allow them to actually achieve lift, the spinning blades I would assume is just for show.
@@Tar-Numendil if it was just the blade spinning rapidlly enough the force and speed would tear them apart but seeing how they have lifts in them that let them do that its less dumb its still stupid tho
@@yukionnaslayer1 Oh yes it's still stupid, they could accomplish nearly the same thing by simply using the Force to jump a great distance.
@@Tar-Numendil jar jar please save us
Video starts: "man this guy doesn't know what he's talkin about"
5 minutes in: "man this guy knows what tf he's talkin about"
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@@micohazakin8576 bruh 299
How do people not know Shadiversity yet are coming here thinking he’s not credible????
He really doesn't. He doesn't compete at HEMA tourneys in long sword, saber or rapier. He's out of shape. He doesn't do any of this "for real" in competition. Dude LARPs and calls it "training".
Imagine what Obi wan thought when he fought a literal helicopter called "General Grievous"
@@slysamuel5902 general kenuuuuubeeee
killer bee
*General Grievous, engages Helicopter mode*
Obi-wan: The High Ground will protect me
@Grammar Nazi people use it wrong constantly. I don't think we can stop them.
@Grammar Nazi good luck
@Grammar Nazi I was about to tell you stop being a grammar Nazi. Then I looked at your name so I can't be mad.
But darth maul dont have problems with carying his sword around, because his sword is retractable.
His weapon is also more based on staffs and not really swords. And staffs can be used as cane's. probably not with a saberstaff but with a metal one.
@@comradekolbot2220 well its a infinite-bladed sword. Meaning you can cut through anything regardless of angle you are holding your lightsaber.
It also has the advantage of not having to use both ends of the sword as each blade extends and retracts independently from the other
@@matthewdouthitt322 Unlike SOMEONE.
*Stares at Nerf Rhinofire which can’t operate without both mags in*
I think double bladed lightsabers would be much more effective than blades since you don't have to worry about edges or travel.
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THANOS
Doesn't mention Thanos??
Reality is often disappointing.
the initial grip you were showing with darth maul isn't actually his normal grip, it was just one he was using to present his lighsaber, he actually uses the grip you prefer because of that practicality you were mentioning
Don't forget that the hilt was also part of the weapon with how Maul handled his saber.
That depends on what media you’re looking at. If it is the video games then yes you will see the spear grip. When Ray Park is playing him he had the both thumbs down grip because I think he is ambidextrous.
"All you need is an oversized nut, and they screw together really well."
Tell that to the next person you see without context.
One oversized nut , damn he talks a lot
He said that when I read this comment.
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@@thenmhc6210 general kenobi
It only kinda works with star wars because a "lightsaber":
1. cuts everything
2. weighs nothing
can choose to use one side
AND! *Very* portable
And you don’t need to fully swing for an attack.
@@rad2054 I'm sure a saber hilt weighs far less than a claymore
@@spurdojenkins1932 George Lucas actually said they're as heavy as normal swords. (that's where combat in OT comes from) Some people he worked with disagreed tho (that's where combat in the prequels comes from)
What kind of pommel would you like?
A sword.
A what?
A sword I want a sword on the end of my sword.
To quote Fighter from 8-Bit Theater: "Sword-chucks, yo."
the term 'end them rightly' gets a totally different meaning in this context.
What kind of cross guard would you like?
Another sword
Jorma Steelhail So you want to wield a ceiling fan?
@@thinkingmachine354 keeping cool and refreshed while slaughtering my enemies? Why yes please :p
as a person from the lightsaber community: double-blades are excellent for offense (you constantly parry all the time) but is horrible for defense. your hilt is the biggest gap in your defense.
True but also somewhat not. I've also done a bit of dueling with a double-bladed saber, and while the larger hilt is an opening it's only really exploitable if you're not spacing yourself properly. A double-bladed saber or for that matter any exotic saber type with a longer hilt needs different spacing from a conventional saber. My particular double-bladed saber benefits from a good half a meter of extra distance, and my pike benefits from the full meter.
Leverage and positioning. Though, I prefer a good offense for my defense with my double saber
Matsubayashi Ryu, Senpai at 15, real Bo Staff experience. They are very good for defense if you really are trying to hurt your opponent. First you have to get past my offence, then my defense, and if your really fighting it definitely does work. What he's holding though is too big for him.. I'm 6'4" so I use a 6' Bo Staff, 2inch thick Doweling. He looks to be about 5'8" so I would have him use a 5'6" inch Bo..
@@JaybayJay
Problem is that a Bo staff doesn't directly translate to a double-ended weapon with only a small grip area. With a Bo you have a full range of motion with your hand placement along the entire length of the staff. Quite a bit still does carry over, though, it's just not a direct one-to-one.
@@VestedUTuber Oh, trust me.. Give me a well balance double bladed sword and some fruits are definitely getting Ninija'd!!! I would also want a solid handle, not like what he had but something more sturdy, not a separable double.. I can make it translate.. Don't forget Shaolin dudes could probably slaughter a whole army by himself with one of those things..
my grandfather walked by while i was watching this, and he said "you could use that to stick em whether theyre coming or going.
Flawless.
That is perfect, but doesn't that work for a normal sword 👀
Your gramps has seem some shit xD
A wise man
@@nonautemrexchristus5637 well he does watch a lot of history channel
One thing to note, is that Ray Park treated the double bladed lightsaber more closely to a bowstaff and not a sword. Also, the blades he utilized on the lightsaber were closer to a 28 inch blade vs the standard 36 inch of a single blade saber. Also, he had no cross guards due to it being more of a bowstaff type weapon
The word is "bo staff", though your points are good.
Yeah but the only reason that actually worked is because lightsabers don’t need any measure of power to cut through an opponent. In the real world I’m not sure the bo staff treatment would work since swords need force behind the swings so the light saber fighting styles wouldn’t all be as viable.
@@alfiechampion46 it won’t be effective on heavily armored opponents but lightly armored or bandits it can be very lethal especially if your surrounded and there not well protected
@@alfiechampion46 the power of the strikes would be extremely lacklustre, but the frequency of strikes, and the sheer utility in defence, it might not be a one hit wonder, but the first step to winning, is not losing, not dying
Excluding Arrows, which honestly, still have a better chance to block than a regular sword or weapon
@@PJOZeus “extremely lacklustre” doesn’t seem right. There are some power and high damage shots that it has the potential to offer. It would be tricky to really make the most of it though. Most times a sword would be more suitable year
I kinda think that this weapon fulfills the niche of a bodyguard's weapon, kinda like the greatsword and great-axe. Impractical for the individual to carry, not overall useful in a battlefield scenario, but capable of holding off multiple attackers in such a manner that a single person can hold a choke point[s] long enough for the important party to retreat/reform ranks. Kind of like how the huskarl held off an entire army at the battle of Stanford Bridge with a great-axe.
Kinda like the nagamaki, which was a Japanese polearm/sword hybrid also famously used by bodyguard retainers.
That kind of makes sense, since the Jedi Temple Guards favored this weapon
On the other hand if the room is not wide or tall enough - you are boned.
@@stevenqu3 fun fact: the temple guard pike is around 3' in length. in various artworks and tv moments, we see that the blade length can match the hilt length. so if they only have one side activated, it can act like a nagamaki. though having the blades shorter would be better when in double bladed mode so it doesn't become too unwieldy. the short blade variant can be seen in Ryan Valle's artwork of a Jedi Temple Guard for the FFG Force and Destiny RPG.
that is a great piont
If I were to make a Twinblade based on using Shad's double-longsword prop as a point of reference:
- Lengthen the handle grip by two hand lengths, and shorten the blades by an equal amount. (Same total length.)
- Using custom made pommels that latch to each other, and can be held together with a double-pronged metal pin for stability.
This way, you have two separate long-grip arming swords that can be sheathed on your waist belt for ease of transport. In a sudden attack, you can draw one of the blades to use immediately, or if you have time you can connect the two blades to make the twinblade.
Reminds me of Groh in Soul Calibur 6.
I like to imagine this is how the knight tried selling the double bladed sword to the king.
my favorite comment of the week
Imagine breaking into his house and you just hear a sword unsheathe.
[Skyrim battle music starts] "Never should have come here!"
YOU PICKED THE WRONG CASTLE FOOL
Gun.
is this a jeorg reference?
Me with my glock:
Parry this you filthy casual!
Oh shit he parried it
Every downside you listed can be countered by making it a lightsaber.
Exactly my thoughts too! Lightsabers are indeed technically swords, but they don't have the same physics or rules as normal physical blades do.
MrSlipperHat Yeah, lightsaber blades being essentially weightless is quite a big advantage. And there’s no need for edge alignment, considering all lightsabers are just very very hot sticks (except the black lightsaber, which actually has an edge).
But while they share different physics, they do share similar combat potential. The Darth Maul grip will still be less effective because of the different options it brings. Yeah, both styles could be swapped mid-combat but individually it makes more sense to use the weapon primarily like a polearm. :)
@@Senordisastermaster I personally would want a light pike, or even better, a lightsaber with a telescoping handle, or staff attachment. It would give me some extra reach, and if I got my hands on a lightsaber blocking metal, still work for parries and be more effective for non-lethal strikes.
@@Senordisastermaster The thing is, Darth Maul's way of handling it would be the only "safe" way of using the weapon :
Lightsaber weapons have no guards to prevent your hands to touch the blade AND if you are to hold it like Shad in this video, you'd have 1 of the plasma blade right under your shoulder, and without weight to the blade you could easily cut off your own arm by mistake, as you'd have no sensation of WHERE your blade is.
Maul isn't holding his weapon like this by mistake : it's in order to not kill himself with his own weapon ^^
@@RoulicisThe force user's perception is a lot better then a normal swordsman's one lol. Darth Maul is skillful enough not to cut himself.
I like how throughout the video you can see him getting more surprised at how well it works
When he’s talking about how the double blade cuts in half the time it takes to parry that’s literally what allows maul to fight qui gon and obi wan at the same time. The choreography of that fight, AMAZING
I suggest you look at "The (Totally) Phantom Menace" video on RUclips.
It is about this very duel between Qui-Gonn/Obi-Wan and Darth Maul.
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LittleRedRhuari RRR jedi and sith have, to a varying degree, the ability to sense the future. Because if this, they would likely be masters of bluffing - exposing themselves deliberately with the intention of countering the strike to the exposed area. When you take into account the years of combat training, fast reflexes and the ability to sense the future, it would be an act of suicide to strike at an already exposed area of the opponent. Instead, it would make more sense to strike at the opponents blade with the intention of creating an opening yourself, as your opponent would not anticipate this and would be much less likely to counter the strike. To emphasise the importance of anticipation and surprise in a lightsaber duel, you only have to look at how Darth Maul died. He attempted to strike obi wan with the same pummel strike he used to kill Qui-Gon, and because this strike was so predictable, obi was was able to perfectly counter his strike and killed Darth maul.
@@freddyberry7160 he literally sliced mauls lightsaber in half.
So someone finally nutted up and actually made a double blades sword instead of just looking at one and going, “Nope. That won’t work at all!”
We're talking about Shad.
The man literally made a wooden castle for his children.
They moved away from that house now, but i'm willing to bet he'd make another one. Double if he makes it out of stone. Though he was a carpenter, not a mason.
"nutted up" i see what u did there)
Tram Ramt ;)
I really liked his reaction to realising "It's a SWORD-POMMEL!!!"
@@DZ-1987 You really believe that? About the wooden castle being 'for the children'?
would be perfect for gladiatorial arenas, it would be fairly unique in that setting and the flashy movements would likely be a crowd pleaser.
Not to mention the problem of carrying it would be mostly mitigated since (to my knowledge) gladiator weapons didn’t often leave their respective arenas even if their gladiators did.
@Whia Didju
Gladiatorial matches weren't usually to the death. It was more sportsmanlike, and Gladiators were a lot like professional athletes today.
@Whia Didju gladiators didn't die, they were really expensive, imagine in the long distant future the common person thinks that rather than just knocking people to the ground in rugby, they thought it was meant to incapacitate them
@Whia Didju except most of those people weren't gladiators
they were people who were being executed in public
some gladiator matches were indeed meant to be a deathmatch but most of them weren't
(sorry for bad English)
"Gladiatorial matches weren't usually to the death. It was more sportsmanlike."
Yea they call that white washing history. They used to feed christians to lions.
You should read Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. There's a section in the book that dives a little bit into lightsaber combat, & explains a little bit about why some of the sith used the double bladed lightsaber.
This is a rough explanation since I haven't read the book in a while, but it basically says that fighting with a double bladed lightsaber is both harder to learn & far deadlier to an inexperienced individual than the normal single bladed lightsaber. However, because of how few people use it & understand how to counter its fighting style with unique attacks & blocks, when used by a very experienced individual it actually ends up being far deadlier & far more unpredictable to opponents than the very common single bladed fighting styles
If I'm not mistaken, he also says that it is actually not that much of a threat because you already know the position of the other blade at anytime by just looking at the main one. Therefore making it mildly predictable
@@juanbonyorni2144 You're entirely right here, but Bane put a heavy emphasis on learning from Kas'im the blademaster. He was the one explaining a lot of the perks and drawbacks and even though it was predictable, even in the era of the New Sith Wars, most Jedi and Sith alike were not as skilled in saber combat to be able to actually apply that information. While it is more predictable, recognizing that it is and actually applying that information are entirely different beasts. And lets not get started on Jar'kai, lightsaber dual wielding
Makes sense
You should read up on Exar Kuhn the guy who invented it, he was even able to retract his saber mid strike when his opponent went to block and increased its length to cut him he’s probably the best duelist and strongest Sith Lord ever
@@alexnowicki286 okay that's just clever asf 😆
Grevious: "Ahh, the negotiator"
*spins lightsabers furiously*
Anakin: General Grevious,u are shorter than I expected
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*spins his lightsabers around like a fucking ceiling fan*
Facts
Grievous.
That up-down grip (as you called a spear grip) you used actually is proper staff grip (at least in Chinese martial arts as I was taught) as opposed to having both hands faced down, during doubled edged use.
In Star Wars, Ray Park (Maul) also used that spear grip for most of his moves, it was only during certain shots and poses he uses the two hands down grip. As he's an Olympic Wushu champion, and like the martial arts Wuhsu is based upon, they use the up-down grip.
Depends what martial art you practice
You are a saint, ty for the info
I was gonna comment basically this. It's only really when Maul goes to bash someone's head with the center of the hilt that he holds it both hands faced down.
@@XS_Overlord wait he bashes people with the center? Doesn't he have enough deadly surface area in his weapon?
@@elumiomerk4013 that's how he beat Qui Gon in Phantom Menace, he knocks his saber back, hits him in the forehead with the middle, then rotates and stabs him.
Shad is like the tiny old guy in every kung fu movie ever. He doesn't look like it, but he's probably really scary to fight.
Bo rai cho from Mortal Combat X
Did you see his video where he went to a Hema event? At one point he's 1 v 3, does a flourish and roars, and some of the other people BACK UP despite having a huge advantage.
Now that is something I gotta see. How tall is he? 6'2" 5'8" 6'9"???
Where is this footage?
@@dgalloway107, turns out my memory wasn't 100% accurate, but in his video titled "Shad's epic LARP adventure..." at the 9:40 mark you'll see what I mean.
The shaolin had double bladed staffs, they were short blades on the end and it was primarily treated as a spear hybrid
Further issues with it being a battlefield weapon:
1.Difficultly in using in formation...
2.Economics...swords werent exatly cheap...now two of them...
That said, I could see it potentially being used by a single or small group of elite troops... not many people would know how to fight someone with such an 'exotic' weapon...
Anyway, great vid shad!
Good in use against multiple unarmored opponents ?
When you know the position of one blade, you automatically know the position of the other.
Or an arena weapon, not specifically gladiatorial combat but more like champions of kings of nobles enter a area to settle a dispute. These exotic weapons could one be to show wealth of their patron and the skill of the fighter.
DJ 0zymandias no shit, but that also doesn’t really mean anything
@@cunninglinguist7203 You basically track it like a staff when fighting against it.
People actually say this weapon has no point !?
Ridiculous! It has TWO!!!!
Double executioner sword.
I see whatcha did there.
I was about to say the same :-P
right?? no point my ass
and yes I realize that was a pun and I thank you for it
I hate you... That made me snort laughing
Because it is useless if you are are fighting in a formation
Exception if you have "friendly fire off"
Steven Wertyuiooo or you have the high ground.
@B Smith Have you forgot dueling or small scale brawls? I agree with Chad. I think the double blades never catch up because the portability of normal sidearm trumped it, and if you want to use a polearm, just get a real polearm with greater reach. For a personal combat melee weapon, this thing will be hard to carry and cumbersome to draw. There is a reason why Katana is popular alternative choice to long sword type of side arm despite the fact that it has less reach, the quick draw. This thing just fly against everything a small scale personal combat side arm needs to function in that setting and outclassed in battlefields by normal polearms
Exactly. It is too cumbersome for self defense and it is impossible to use on battlefield because it will hit friendly soldiers who are fighting by your side.
@B Smith And a halberd or war hammer isn't impractical when fighting in formation?
Have you ever heard of poking? Maybe spears...
Darth Maul's sword would be INCREDIBLY useful and deadly, but only if he used it right (which he didn't).
The enormous tactical advantage of his blades are that he can turn either of them on and off at will. He could fight in a standard sword vs sword duel and while parrying his opponent's strike, activate the other end of his blade and slice through his opponent who didn't realize that blade was ever there in the first place. Or while making a swing in one direction, deactivate that blade an activate the blade from the opposite end.
There are so many opportunities to strike an enemy with what would be a damn near impossible to parry strike.
All the advantages of single and double weapons with no drawbacks at all.
I can't remember which video but a youtuber addressed this and said that the sith considered it a sign of weakness to do this, because you didn't win the fight with your skill and brutality, you only cheated.
Like the other guy said, this is viewed negatively by both the Jedi and the Sith. Here’s a quote regarding it;
Tràkata's [the combat technique that involves deactivating your saber during combat] reliance on deception has sparked debate among the Jedi and Sith, with some viewing it as a dishonorable or unsportsmanlike approach to combat. The Sith may criticize it for showing weakness, preferring direct displays of power. Meanwhile, some Jedi argue it strays from the path of honor and openness they strive to uphold. Despite this, Tràkata remains a testament to the diversity of thought and strategy that exists within the Star Wars universe's martial traditions.
It's not only a sword pommel, since both sides count as pommels, *THE ENTIRE WEAPON IS THE POMMEL*
TRANSCENDING
Genius! This is officially the most OP weapon to ever exist. We have transcended the limits of humanity and everyone else... is screwed.
Double pommeled sword. Woa...
End him rightly!
Waaaaaaaaaat
I've said this before on some of your other videos, but it bares repeating. You are a saint. Where other channels just dismiss something as wrong or silly and move on. You actually try to further the conversation by putting the time in to research, craft and test things out. It's things like this why I subbed. Yes it might not be historically accurate or practical, but this is so much more entertaining.
A latter day saint to be precise
@@pkmntrainermann4476 he is Mormon?
Two swordsman escorting their lord to safety. But are confronted by a knight with a double bladed sword
Swordsman 1: why do I hear dual of the fates?
Duel*
swordsman 2: be still my young padawan, we will need all of our focus
swordsman 1 once he hears duel of the fates: haha I’m in danger
@@giyuutomioka8360 swordsman 2: I said be still, you will be fine.you have a place in the sequel
Swordsman 2: What the fuck is Dual of the Fates?
I think it's only barely a polearm on the condition that it is just two swords screwed together. If both blades share the same longsword/hand-and-a-half handle, rather than two full-length longsword handles, the user cannot really adjust their grip to meaningfully extend the reach. An example of this would be the double-bladed sword (based on a spear from Japanese mythology) of Izanagi-no-Okami from the Persona series. In that weapon, the handle only has enough space for a typical longsword grip (from the user in question, at least). There simply isn't enough "pole" to give it the advantages of a polearm.
That's why you specifically design the weapon with a longer hilt. If you're just sticking an extra blade on the end of a standard-length longsword hilt, you're making a pretty big mistake.
I think in his imaginary perfect world Shad sees himself, mounting a dragon, sitting on machicolations, with sword, that has another sword as a pommel.
Kvint not just Shad.
nah the pommel of his sword would BE the DRAGON :D attached Tail to hilt ofc. :)
Darth Maul- one of my favorite Sith lords. Makes double-bladed Lightsaber look cool.
Shad- one of my favorite youtubers. Makes the double-bladed sword look good.
Coincidence? Yes, but I don't care.
Not coincidence, fate
@Sightless_Seeker Actually there's a book about him survivingm getting mechanical legs and becoming a mercenary, if I remember right.
Have you ever seen Ray Park and Shad in the same place? Exactly, they are the same person
@Sightless_Seeker Watch Star Wars Clone war, and Star Wars Rebels, he did survive and shows up in both.
@Sightless_Seeker Disney didn't wipe out the canon Lucasfilms did. All Disney did was ask to make it less confusing which could have been done with less purging. They didn't have to do all they did but they did so we got what we got. All Disney did was the sensible logical move because no offense the canon was a train wreck and put Lucasfilms into a corner they really couldn't get out without a purge of something. Now in what you're talking about Darrel mentions what is kept and both Clone Wars show and Rebels are canon there for Maul lived and his brother is canon.
I cant understand people who think this kind of sword has no point… when you look close enough it has even two points
Lol, thanks for over 7000 likes. I never thought I could come that far with a joke that bad😆
J to the F you beat me to the point...
stooooop we get the point
Thanks for pointing that out.
loool that made me laugh, its not just the rum talking, honest
@@Exile1a i was actually expecting someone said this
That’s amazing! Like how Shad just adapts the techniques to a new (ish) weapon. Pretty badass and definitely has intimidation on its side. I was laughing about the concept of impractical weapons in fantasy because one of my dnd characters is a 5’5” half elf who wields a legit great sword. (Not a DnD great-sword, a true historical great-sword the thing is taller than her by a lot)
The 12 year old boy in me is jumping for joy at watching someone actually use a double bladed sword
Current me still is
You like Maul,don't you?
The 12 year old in Shad was jumping in joy as well, while swinging the double bladed sword
*the perfect pommel for a sword is **_another sword_*
You can truly end your enemies rightly!
@William E *what the hell is a scaberd?*
@@darnit1944 a vagina
It makes the first sword a pommel as well
Now if only there were two smaller swords coming out of the hilts of both of those swords.
"Any questions?"
"Yes sir. In the manual it says to unscrew the pommel and throw it at your opponent."
"What don't you understand?"
"Which sword is the pommel?"
"Yes."
This does not have enough likes lmao
Yes.
*shoots with crossbow* freaking smartass
@@Zerpderp0 *shoots back with crossbow that has a pommel at end of bolt* "asshole" lol
In the next episode, how to throw a sword rightly
This was nice to watch but keep in mind that with a double bladed saber you can always switch your grip. Also the biggest thing with the double blade is that it brings some psychological edge too as most people panic with the extra blade.
Agreed. If you are used to fight against single weapon, or even one in each hand, this would have massive suprise element especially if user has "mastered" using this. I belive that if we take let's say 5cm from each swords lenght, and put it in the grip, while still keeping crossguards or adding something like those knots in messers for extra protection, not only would it be really, really cool, it would also be one of the best weapons in it's class. There could even be a "quick latch" for disconnecting the two blades for added versatility
@@karrimgyver honestly can agree. The quick latch would also be an amazing factor. A nice way to switch up the style and put more pressure on your enemy.
you know shit's about to get real when Shad has his gambeson on
me: this is so fast
Shad:this isn't even 10% of my speed
..and that was the moment mankind realized, pommelthrowing meme was becoming a force of nature..
The potential for self-damage with this weapon, especially when clashing with other swords. One side, at least toward the handles should be not sharp
Yea,but think about it,if it's very dangerous and the oponents sees you with it and knows how much of a big deal you are they are gonna get WAY more scared from you than they whould with a normal saber. Also Maul picked soamthing great,i mean anger is what powers a sith lord
"In combat, your mind tries to keep track of each blade separately, effectively doubling the number of possibilities. But the two blades are connected: by knowing the location of one, you are automatically aware of the location of the other. In actual practice, the double-bladed lightsaber is more limited than the traditional lightsaber. It can do more damage, but it is less precise. It requires longer, sweeping movements that don't transition well into a quick stab or thrust. Because the weapon is difficult to master, however, few among the Jedi - or even the Sith - understand it. They don't know how to attack or defend effectively against it. That gives those of us who use it an advantage over most of our opponents."
―Blademaster Kas'im
Good trilogy 🤟🏽
This was in the Darth Bane books wasnt it?
@@rodjonajjaci6293 yep
Until you realize he was also a master of 2 bladed lightsaber form as well...pretty sneaky sith
ever used one they aren't very practical in real life. they are hard to maneuver
From my (untrained, freestyle) experience, using a sword-staff like this, while rather difficult, is extremely rewarding for an aggressive combatant to wield. Defending with it is fairly complicated, but defending against it is easily as hard, if not more so.
Plus, twirling it feels badass.
I'm not a sword master by any means, but I am actually very comfortable using my double bladed lightsaber. The weapon has so much versatility, and it's quick too!
I remember absolutely obliterating other kids in "rigid swimming noodles" fights at a party, simply because I just attacked twice faster than they blocked.
But we were all kids so...
@Guacamole Nigga Penis except a lightsaber would make even quicker work than a rapier, as a blade of plasma somehow contained into a beam would have such little weight that it would almost be like it didn't have any. Bring a rapier against a jedi or sith, and they'd laugh, cut off your blade, and proceed to impale you on a blade made out of the fourth state of matter.
@Guacamole Nigga Penis just change up your relentless assault and you'll fuck up whoever is in front of you. Tf is the foe gonna do, ?
@Guacamole Nigga Penis didn't shad cover how you could just hold one blade outward (mostly) like a normal sword?
also the point of practicality is fixed within the star wars universe with sheathing being super simple.
At the same time, that lightsaber becomes waaaaaayyyy more dangerous to the wielder. An extremely unforgiving weapon to practice and wield.
@@emmettfitz-hume9408 Which fits entirely with Maul's character.
The blades also have no weight whatsoever. Its just burning plasma. So, there isn't any weight to put behind it, making a different style of fighting entirely.
SWVWC that’s not necessarily true the blade’s weight comes from the magnetic field that maintains the super heated plasma blade in it’s shape I’m not fully versed on how it works but I do know that the stronger the magnetic field the more force you have to put in to your swings
@@jordanreed7570 Depending on you see the blade. If you think its a simple Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (or a laser), it would have no weight as it is just light (which begs the question, how it simply stops after 4 or so feet). But as a plasma, it is simply superheated (or super-cooled) gases. The weight also depends on the gas, but generally, it seems to be without weight just looking at it. I mean, if it can be deflected behind your back, it MUST not have that much weight.
I actually went to a "lightsaber school" for a few years. Basically we fought with long plastic sticks, and the guys who founded the school used kendo, fencing and the 7 styles of combat that are used in star wars as inspiration to create this martial art.
We did have double lightsabers, one guy even made it his main training weapon. I have tried it a few times, and honestly with a bit of practice it is a great weapon. If that was a true metal sword, the weight would probably be very unpractical, but when fighting someone who has a simple lightsaber, you just have so much more speed and options, so it is actually really good. It is also especially good when fighting two or more opponents at once, because you can attack on multiple sides without having to swing your sword the whole way.
I'm also pretty sure it would be useless against a shield + sword user, so that's probably another reason why theses weapons never really existed.
So I think your analysis is on point here ! I think it is a great dueling weapon, or when fighting without shields !
By any chance were you at Florida Polytechnic?
@@VestedUTuber Nope sorry I'm from France
@@eclipses6605
Ah. Reason I asked was because the same thing happened over at Florida Polytechnic, and I was the guy who mained a saberstaff there for the short time I was there.
@@wolololer Not really, they were light enough that you could control the swing quite effectively, and move both ends where you wanted them to be.
But what about the double hilted sword? With a pommel at each end?
Dude woah
@@thetincan_man Not my idea. Matt Easton showed one in a medieval manuscript, probably an error by the artist, but he is the source of the joke. :)
That's against the Geneva Convention I believe.
You can end him rightly twice
Its called Nunchuckss. XD
Getting flash backs to the youtube classic "star wars kid"
We finally know where is he today
A meme reborn. What a glorious day
@@stanisawjaworowski15 after decades of bulling now he is one of the most important people in his town
I wonder if he really is the Star Wars kid just grown up.
@@Wowthatsfail i know you are making a joke but i recomend you to watch wangs video on the star wars kid to see what happened to him
I remember something about this from the first book of the Darth Bane trilogy.
Bane's lightsaber teacher Kasim used a double lightsaber like Maul and when Bane asked Kasim why, he explained it is a psyhological effect, one thinks of the 2 blades as 2 seperate blades, while in reality they are connected, so when you know where 1 balde is, you automatically know where the other one is.
That is even referenced later in the book, but I don't want to spoiler too much.
Ho, I remember this moment, it was really cool (well the whole book is cool ^^ )
This was the exact moment when I finally understood how the double blade worked.
Glory to Cobrastan.
my fav star wars books. excellent author.
Lol was thinking the same thing while watching
I would love to see someone make a double bladed sword that can spin like an inquisitor lightsaber
"The crossguards get in the way"
Then use a lightsaber
WIthout hours of training reflexes you just can accidently slide your hand on a cutting edge, what is not good as long as your name isn't Grivus, than come on, try it
I imagine that a double-bladed kylo-ren lightsaber would be a lot more painful on the wrists
You're hand gets cut off right then and there. Unless you're Rey, she can't be defeated because she's the bestest since asbestos.
What a woman
@@AlexGrom with normal metal double bladed sword, training it won't be nearly as tough as something like lightsaber. Sword/blade with small to no hand guard at all is not something new, even in real life history. Of course though, if all you see is just medieval European swords, then it's understandable that you might think that swords without hand guard = crazy.
"when you have the power of the Dark Side, one lightsaber is all you need"
D. Vader
"I am so powerful in the Dark Side i dont even need a lightsaber"
Shev Palp
@@gogogagaasa "that fight with maul and his brother doesn't count "
shev palp
Niall Harrington “also neither does that time I fought yoda”
Shev palp
@@jimboringo9958 “big fat fucking balls on my face”
Shev palp
Which is what salty sith boys say when they get their hand severed trying to dual wield
Knight : *spends years of dedication to training with a sword*
1364 : Introducing NEW Firearm known as a 'Gun'.
Knight : sh*t
Not in any way accurate.
@@ncr_ranger96 Cuz it's a joke you fucking nerd
Gun: *dominates the battlefield for centuries*
1945: *new atomic bomb levels entire city in moments*
Gun: Creeper? Awww man...
@@mv9370 Your screen name suits you, kid.
@@ncr_ranger96 Yeah, AK47, cuz i spit straight fire. ;)
i wonder how many times swordsmiths tried this in history then just cut it in half and sold it as sword swords after finding out it doesn't work, completely wiping their attempts from history
That spinning maneuver you did in the middle of the video was practically identical to one of the star wars lightsaber forms, form 3, Soresu is built around lots of spinning and circular motion of the blade, you actually see Obi Wan use it a lot, if you watch closely (anywhere but Episode I, where he was still emulating Qui Gon's Ataru style).
Ahh yes a cultured person
For a second, I was confused because I honestly thought of Ben Kenobi vs Darth Vader (as in the first movie), but then I realized you meant Phantom Menace. 😅
But yeah, you’re right, that definitely looked like Form IV.
@@justin2308 Well, Soresu is Form III, Ataru is Form IV.
Well Kenobi did use an Ataru stance with his final battle with Maul in Rebels animated show. He basically tricked Maul to try use his old trick where he killed Qui Gon, only for Kenobi to counter with that killing strike...
dboymax1 he didn’t trick him. He knew he’d want that same kill on himself because Maul lost his mind.
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It might be worth mentioning that the “double bladed lightsaber” is actually a lightsaber-staff... it’s not meant to be a sword
Liimo2000co It's not meant to be a sword but it still virtually cuts through anything and causes extreme burns with a light touch. You can conserve energy by resting/guarding a staff with it touching your body but with a light staff you cant. Also I think light staff is Legends term only (correct me if I'm wrong I'm not up to date with Star Wars).
@@radioactivebirdj.1845 that’s fair, but also, unlike a sword, I believe you can canonically toggle one or both sides... meaning that while it is functionally more similar to a double-sided sword, you can also use it as a one-sided lightsaber with an abnormally long handle.
Liimo2000co Oh I didn't really consider that thanks for pointing it out. Also it brings up the question on why two handed light saber styles didn't use longer handles considering the standard is light enough for one handed use.
@@radioactivebirdj.1845 I would also like to point out that the people using these things in the movies have the Force and any tiring would be accounted for through that. Even Yoda had to use the Force to move quickly
A light-staff, to be precise. That's what its called.
this was just in my recommended today and i am just fascinated
glad i found this randomly very enjoyable
Blacksmith: “sire, you would like a longsword or 2 arming sword?”
Knight: “ *YES* “
Underrated lol
Blacksmith: "so a longsword that is molded to another sword? Or just 2 longswords?"
Knight:" *No* wait yes"
Blacksmith: *face palms* let me grab you something by the back *goes to the back and grabs a long pole that has been sharpened on both ends* here u go
The double-bladed lightsaber is often referred to as a saberstaff, furthering the point that it was meant to be used like a staff.
I was really waiting for a bo staff comparison. Seems to be the most logical jump.
Ray park, the actor who played darth maul who was a martial artist treated the double bladed lightsaber as if it was a quarterstaff
Yes, but they also didn't have the hilt guards, and were lighter than a two-bladed metal sword.
Yeah, I think so too
Jonah Key but rey got a single bladed one when she literally uses a staff
Lightsabers have basically 360 degrees of edge alignment. That probably helps significantly in a weapon like this where it is more difficult to control alignment
But it's incredibly detrimental when every strike toward your opponent is also a strike towards yourself.
I don't know how many medichlorians you need to safely wield Darth Maul's lightsaber, but I'm pretty sure it's a lot.
@@CrownRock1nah man u don't need no force for that , u just train ur body in a specific range of motion and after years of practice with a dummy blade , ur body will just never go into a position where it can hurt u , unless ofc ur opponent trys to take advantage of ur second blade and lead it into ur body , which again can be exploited if u have whole martial art based around using said blade , u would hope ur opponent focuses on the one facing u and that would distract him from the one that's attacking him leaving him more vulnerable than urself. anyway darth maul comes from a race of warriors , so it wouldn't be too big of stretch for him to be a master at wielding such a thing even without the force
Super Marijus the problem with a double sided lightsaber is that they aren’t sharp, and they don’t have an edge, they are HOT, and have to be held in the way Darth Maul does, which is very limited movement. In the video you can see a more effective technique, with a greater range of movement, but a lot of strikes require the second blade to touch the body, this couldn’t happen with a lightsaber or you’d kill yourself.
An advantage of the lightsaber we didn’t see is that the blades can be turned off, meaning with training you could turn off the blade as it was about to hit you, and turn it back on when it was safely past your body, but at that point to not get yourself killed you’d need to take into account:
Your opponents strike
Your defending blade
Retracting your second blade
The retraction speed of your second blade
Extending your second blade
The extension speed of your second blade
And then the same again with any strike you make.
So, you either limit your movements or risk your life to your own blade - it’s much more practical as a sword than a lightsaber.
@@TomPriceism Which is what makes Darth Maul awesome. A saber is practical. Easy to use. A light staff is hard to use. So you practice with it. He had the training.
@@TomPriceism Touching your body with a lightsaber wouldn't kill you. It would just singe you. You would have to push it into your body to cause significant damage. Also, I don't believe that you HAVE to touch you body. You could train to make slightly wider swings and wear more form-fitting clothing to prevent ruining them.
Notes
HOLD LIKE SPEAR
gards get in way bigger handle
thrust, deflect, stike up or side with second.
rath gard (up to sholder, knife grip?) second blade in gard, first at oporation,
angled, strike across to deflect and counter with second blade (thrust, slash with second, back thrust second, down to up slash with first
above head spins also good.
its great for 2 move attacks,
if first misses second can change esaly.
9:55 spining
10:55 blocking spin
Hard to carry, hard to have 2 sheaves,
Un screw for better carry but still slow to draw (could dual weld then attach)
They didn't have good threads so couldn't make it as well
14:50 not good battle feild
(Not versatile, cant move it as much as normal sword as hits you but still fine)
I mean, the advantage Darth Maul has is that he doesn’t have to present a particular blade edge. It can hit from any side, so you can treat it as a quarter staff and not lose effectiveness
It's more of a bo than a quarterstaff. Try gripping it like a quarterstaff and you burn your hand off.
That seems to be the thing that gets most people. Thinking of it as a staff, rather than a sword, instantly makes it seem way more realistic and logical as a weapon.
@@aikologic No its closer to holding a heavy 2ft long stick.
@@h.plovecat4307 Maybe in terms of weight, yeah. XD
In all fairness he does treat it like a staff
0:45 I thought he said "I do have a background in martial arts and swords 'and shit'" instead of "swordsmanship" lmao
Banananaz lmao
Lemao :D
hello banananana
lol I did not catch that on the first watch
I’m pretty sure he meant a background in talking shit. As evidenced by his doing a spin kick to a pavise or
Kite shield or something while dressed as a ninja. Just after he says that.
The thing with Darth Maul’s lightsaber is there’s no pommel and the blade weight isn’t a thing. Also cutting edge is all around.
Manyfist True But the problem with it is that because of its all around cutting is that it would be hard to matter and not touch yourself in any way
Darth Maul’s hands are literally a cm away from melting off. And any proper thrust could melt his own underarm and armpit. They just needed to force push his weapon a little bit and the jedis could have killed him without much effort.
@@albertschoise8091 It is a problem with lightsabers generally. BUT, they were used mostly by Force users, who used Force to help them.
Кирилл Щепин yeah but he has to focus on both ends which makes it much harder
@@albertschoise8091 not with the force guiding you... Also you can use the force to just spin it in place with the force because you know... Psychic powers.
Given all the advantages stated here, it would seem the double bladed lightsaber would be much more practical than a double bladed sword!
The sword’s only downsides seemed to be practicality. Lightsaber blades are weightless, and obviously they retract to make it more portable. Basically, having a double bladed sword doesn’t make sense, but if we ever invent some kinda laser sword…. I think we got something!
Get the Hacksmith to work on this
Get the Hacksmith to work on this
All energy has weight, so the blades aren't weightless like so many of you claimed, you just need to revise your understanding of physics.
@@audiotyresup Im sorry if you don't like the Science FICTION concept of a weightless energy blade but in this particular Science FICTION story the energy blades are weightless. Thats just how it is. You don't like it, take it up with George Lucas, not me. You can also mention to him how there's not supposed to be sound in space. And any other scientific inaccuracies in his films. I'm sure he'd love to hear your notes!
Have I made my point? Its really dumb to complain about scientific in inaccuracies in sci-fi. Feel free to notice them. But don't get all condescending just because I stated something which is a FACT as related to the Star Wars IP. Does it make sense? No. Do I care? No. and you shouldn't either.
@@thecomfyshirt another person liking their own comments at post.
And even with your concept of fiction, energy would still have weight or the physics would be very different in that world, to include no gravity on planets.
"this is a piece of junk, why would you ever do it there's no point"
There's obviously two points
Ah hahaha... that took me a minute
Hah! See what you did there
I give you 2/10 *points* for that pun
@@Nezha_Main Dude that's a 3.8/4 for me
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9:43 "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Now THIS is an underrated comment.
Someone likes Anakin Skywalker
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Great video. I am just wondering if you are missing the point that in battle you would often be at close quarters, and not necessarily able to pay attention to what is going on behind you. Potentially your own brothers in arms could become at risk from strikes if they are behind or beside you... You would be having to gauge that to a greater degree which would be a distraction from what was happening in front of you, your main assailant. With a single blade you have 1 pointy end , much easier to control in terms of close quarters where every one is bundled together in a mass of combat. I may be wrong, but just a thought. What o you think?
Not if you all stay 5 ft apart like good little minis on a grid
That there is a gladiator's weapon.
Not for everyday use, not great on a battlefield, not great against armored opponents, horrible if it gets tangled up on your opponent's shield...
But it's an effective gimmick and *WOW* will it get the crowd excited.
How I look at a double-bladed sword:
Well, wouldn't it work better if I made the blades of asymmetrical length? Yes, do that.
Wouldn't I want more handle to work with? Yes, lengthen the handle.
Wouldn't it be better if I made one of the weapons more specialized to thrusts to deal with armor and stuff? Yes, do that.
Have I just described a bladed polearm with a buttspike? Yes, just use that.
@@dynamicworlds1 but sword pommel....
@@dynamicworlds1 First point: not strictly, and not in a duel
second point: not strictly, especially against a foe who will get in very close
Third point: not necessarily (like if your foe is gonna have little/no armor)
Have I just described a common tournament/gladiator occurrence, yes i did
(although like everything else its a tradeoff)
@@janehrahan5116 Jane Hrahan 1st point: reach is good and having an end you can choke up on is good, duel or no.
2nd point: if someone is right on top of me I absolutely want the room to shift my grip and get leverage
3rd point: *If* you know your opponent is going to have little to no armor, a great (arguably the best) melee weapon in that situation for that size category is the spear (bonus points if you're also unarmored as it keeps you as far away from your enemy's pointy end as possible, which any real polearm would also do)
If you got to choose your weapon, I don't see a case where this is ever the best choice.
He should try spinning, thats a cool trick
The practicality skyrockets if the weapons some kind of lightsaber, laser sword or otherwise capable of withdrawing the blades.
Suddenly no worries about sheathes, blade maintenance, or carrying it around!
plus not a lot of things can block it
And you don't need to worry about blade alignment
Yes! But there is a danger of maiming oneself by accidentally cutting off a limb.
@@Tar-Numendil Well yes, but there is always the worry of maiming with a real sword if it is sharp enough. Maybe not to the point of cutting a limb off like a lightsaber but you still need to have full control as to not seriously injure yourself. I think that a master like darth maul would have expert blade control and know exactly how to not cut a limb off while also making this an extremely powerful weapon.
@@baileytowle2349 Of course, but you can't deny that the double bladed weapon is inherently more difficult to use.
When the pummel is another sword. What more can you ask for?
Somewhere there's a handle with a pommel on both sides.
In Skallagrim’s secret vault
Yeah its called a dumbell
@@coltonaallen a mace?
@@coltonaallen Look up the "vajra", it's an indonesian weapon. Seems mostly ceremonial and useless until you realize it's actually two pommels.
If you have ever made the foam lightsabers, the double bladed saber allows to you easily overwhelm most single blade users. However, a skilled defensive user has the ability to counter and attack at the hands making it a liability. It's a pressure weapon, once you lose initiative your pretty screwed unless you can split it into 2 separate blades.
I thought this would be debunked fairly quickly ... I was wrong ... honestly ... I'm glad I was. It might not be practical, but just from your "messing around" with it and seeing the viability makes it look viable enough in-terms of functionality. How epic.
When D&D 3.0 was a new thing, there was a huge argument in RPG newsgroups about practicality of two-bladed swords and some people vehemently argued that having 2-bladed sword doing 2d8 points of damage (while regular longsword did 1d8) was reasonable as you could strike twice, and there were historical examples of 2-bladed swords, supposedly somebody found a pic of one from a Korean museum or whatever.
This led to other people designing multi-bladed weapons as a parody - there was 3-bladed sword for 3d8 damage, 4-bladed sword for 4d8 and so on. Because why not! I think the best was a sphere-like cage around a person which had chain&balls attached all over and the designer proclaimed that using same logic, it should do 20d10 damage per attack.
That Sphere of Blades sounds like a converted version of Wall of Swords....and would actually make for a good defensive/offensive D&D spell...hahaha
I honestly wouldn’t argue. I mean, it’s a game, it doesn’t need to be wholly realistic.
Besides, a four-bladed sword just sounds like a large version of a shuriken
It your 2 bladed sword was 2 blades running parallel about 2-3 inches apart from each other (picture a bladed tuning fork) from a standard hilt you would indeed cut twice with one strike. It would be heavy and unwieldy, but horribly effective.
@@cameronaberner I'd count that as one strike, but with a higher damage output.
You can roleplay the second blade causing strange and raunchy wounds.
But I would not count it as 2 attacks, just one stronger attack
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I could see this being a weapon that a royal guard might use seeing as it is both possible to use it effectively and it's freaking terrifying which are two things that you really want in a ceremonial weapon
3:00 This is actually how I use my custom double-bladed lightsaber in sparing with my friends and convention opponents. There's a lot of functionality maneuverability and versatility using this stance.
The thing is with a sword you have to specifically strike on the edge. A lightsaber has no edge so that is not a problem. That means the double bladed lightsaber can be wielded more like a staff. Another factor to consider is the weight. With a sword most of the weight comes from the steel blades. The blade on a lightsaber is completely weightless, which means the only weight on a lightsaber is the weight of the hilt. So a double bladed lightsaber can be wielded much faster and more effortlessly than a double bladed sword.
Well said. However you now have a new problem in that with the lightsabre you know which end is the dangerous one. The double-ended lightsabre runs the risk of hurting the owner or even your own allies. Certain single sword positions might not be possible with a double-blade.
@@Kndiani Which is why only force users in the fluff could use them effectively (and one of the many reasons the new mary sue movie trilogy is ridiculous) they had the reflexes from that split second view of the future to avoid slicing off their own appendages.
Also you can at will turn off one of the blades and use it like a regular lightsaber which is what maul does in his short 1v1 earlier in the movie vs qui gon.
@@HerbertBaumGruppe 😟 why not?
Plus it's freaking plasma that will cut through you no problem haha
Ma man’s got a zwei-zweihander.
*Doppelzweihander*
zweihander-vierhander
Ein Vierhander?
You just named the latest german pop song XD
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If you have a normal sword and you're using it normally, you're swording.
If you have a normal sword and you're holding it by the handle and the blade, you're half-swording.
If you have a double sword and you're using it, uh, normally...? I guess you'd be double-swording.
Now... if you have a double sword and you're holding it by the handle and the blade closest to the opponent, would that be quarter-swording?
And if you have that double sword and you're holding it by the handle and the blade furthest to the opponent, would that be quadruple-swording?
Please advise. We can't write up a treatise on this new elegant weapon without precise terminology...
This is also the only sword that can perform a murderstroke and a cut at the same time.
That would be three-quarter swording.
Holding a double sword normally would be half-double-swording. So in that case, you're still swording and by that chance you've got a chance to catch your opponent off-guard because he doesn't expect you having a far superior weapon!
Murderstroke is reverse swording
If you half-sword with a double sword, you actually make your reach longer. This is sorcery.
Treat a double bladed sword more like a Bo staff, double ends make for quick short motions and allow slashing swings with backwards stabbing. If you are able to spin the sword quickly like the bo it becomes quick blocking spin. You would need a good skill in the right martial arts but totally useable in my opinion and I am glad you can show this as well as the best way to hold it.
As a sword I suppose it would be impractical *BUT* as a lightsaber, it would be very effective. A lightsaber is retractive so it’s easy to carry around and it doesn’t have shoulders so it would be easier to grip.
And you have the option of turning off one blade to make moves that are only possible with one blade.
I think the Darth Bane trilogy had that mentioned somewhere. I remember that it said the weapon had less versatility than a single blade, but had the advantage of being less known and harder to predict.
until your return blow cuts your arm off.
indeed and also as the lightsabers blade are made of... well, light, it should not be as heavy
Brian Schwatka if your opponent overpowers you (in Star Wars and real life) they could literally just force the blade right into your side. Imagine a sideways strike, your opponent catches the blade being wary of thrusting strikes, then pushes it the other way so that the rear blade cuts into your side if you aren’t wearing chain mail or at least a leather chestpiece.
@@paulocalazans3838 plasma
SHAD! the double bladed sword is a tournament weapon.
If it were to be a thing, it would be used in tournaments. Or duels.
Exhibition weapons do show up in history on occasion. Using a weapon that is impractical for normal use could give people an interesting reputation. Some of these weapons were refined into a more useable form, while others were left in the dust of history. Any historical example of a double bladed sword might fall into that later category, but flails are there too.
While i already knew that, there are those who don't.
Your information is welcome here, Sir Forrest.
Duels... of the Fates.
I think darth mauls double saber is even more practical because based on what was seen in the movie he could individually activate and deactivate both sabers
@@MrAwesome1105 The fact that the entire 'blade' dematerializes (not to mention the fact that it is effectively all cutting edge) makes the weapon quite a bit more practical then you'd expect.
I don’t know a thing about swords or sword fighting, but this guy clearly knows what he’s talking about and it looks like he’s having so much fun! Great video.
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@@johnzachariahgThe John with the neat musics.
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The biggest weakness of the double bladed lightsaber was that the hilt was a big target. There was a dark Jedi who converted his standard hilt lightsaber into a double bladed one, the smaller one handed grip nullified this weakness. I'd like to see a double bladed one handed rapier.