@@yamatokurusaki5790 no haha and for the engineer 2 , to have the ability to build an mg nest IIRC you gotta upgrade your squads on the tree chart ( correct me if im wrong )
A problem with making the troop high level is that new player will be unable to equip these gold order troops with side arms or ammo pouches. It would be very simply fixed by making the gold order troop’s side arm and backpack slots automatically unlocked
Finally! Finally somebody is talking about this issue. I've made a small Forum thread about this a some time ago, when I got my 4th gold troop order from the log-in reward. And of course the Snail is doing the most Snail thing imaginable: it's giving me more and more of them from the rewards - I have 6 gold troop orders now. I have to say your ideas are pretty good and quite "effortless" for DF to implement.
Not sure I saw the forum thread unless it was one of those I linked in the description, but yes it has so much potential but they are implemented really poorly at the moment! 6 gold troop orders?? I don't know whether to say you are lucky or not 🤣
I understand where this video is going, but I would just like to point that allied gold solders on Normandy are real life medal of honor recipients, and they gave all. I think it's a cool way of remembering them. Look em up on google sometime... everyone of them has their own heroic story.
I got the "exclusive Normandy allied soldier" after getting the rank of marshal and I feel short changed and disappointed at the meager reward. If dark flow could change it to a tank,plane with crews or exclusive weapons then it would feel more rewarding and worth the effort in getting the rank of marshal.
V star soldiers lost their point once the Academy was scraped. You had to "kill" 2/3 of your best IV stars (you see what I did here, stars, not rank/level confusion lol) soldiers to get the one V star through Academy. They added rank II and III gold order soldiers in later battlepass seasons, but they are pointless if you don't have red tree maxed out for that specific squad. Edit: I think the gold orders soldiers should be veteran level, that would really make them exclusive, at least at this point until the veteran becomes available.
Got lucky as a beginner and snagged a max stat assaulter 3 for the axis, the biggest issue was the lack of a backpack slot until I got to assaulter 3 naturally, I agree they should all come maxed out on stats and slots ffs.
Gold order soldiers should always have perfect rolls (the most points possible for that kind of soldier) otherwise there really isn't any point to them.
My idea of how a gold soldier should work. They should have the best possible perk point roll for that class. And instead of getting a random roll of perks like every normal soldier, you're able to manually select the specific perks you want
Vasily Zaitsev was a real person, his rifle that he used in the battle of Stalingrad is on display at the great patriotic war museum in Volgograd or at the museum in Moscow but I believe it's the former .... Major Konig was a fictional character for the movie based of a German sniper that may or may not have been real 😂, yea Zaitsev squared of with other snipers but the story about the dual between them is believed to be mostly Soviet propaganda. It's debated .... Ps I did this from memory so it may not be 100% feel free to correct me comments people
I spent one of my golden troop orders on the engineer II for the German side in Normandy and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even have enough point thingys to get 35% vitality.
Im not sure if the devs really should use historical characters for these soldiers. Wouldn’t it be even more awkward if 5 Simo Häyhäs would be present at the same battle? Perhaps as rare event rewards as with König and Zaitzev but for the general gold order soldiers I would personally prefer: 1) Name generator and/or the ability to create own custom names. 2) Face generator and/or the ability to freely chose one of the existing faces 3) Individualization options for this very character unlocked for special medals. Could be a tank commander with a Knights Cross around his neck, a soldier with an iron cross ribbon on his uniform or a Sturmabzeichen or close combat badge just to name a few German options that were actually also worn in battle. I guess a Medal of Honor around the neck would be a little too much.
5:45 well the excuse for this one is it is a Twitch Drop which will always be 4/5 stars as a soldier with a Hero medal instead of pay me money medal. buzz buzz buzz
I think the solution of gold orders basically eliteing your soldiers is the best way to go about changing gold orders, you get a gold order and then use it on a soldier and then they instantly hit level 5, max out their respective class perk points to whatever the highest roll is, and they get the medal icon next to their name, so a gold order would work instead as a requisition but a decoration
Gold order rifleman and engeenere seem most usefull. i use them to lvlup my fresh squads, you can put them into almost any squad. In some campaigns engeere squads are unavailable before lvl10 - ish. Engeenere + good Golden order weapon like g43kurtz is awsome,.... but Golden order soldiers have locked equipment slots (and rank2 building like mg nest) untilk you unlock high campaign lvl with their respective squad. Worth mentionning, its good those soldiers come without perks picked by devs. For Instance devs give awfull perks to premium squads.
@@MajorMcDonalds Yes they do. I have both assaulters and the gunner for axis. And the perks are the same for every player so I suggest getting them. But if you wonder why, I don't know. Maybe they have learned their lesson since the newest gold troopers tend to be good.
Hey Major. I was wondering if someone would do an experiment with the AI. I noticed when you set them to aggressive when they are Lvl 4-5 they wreck the enemy. I had a game where I had a Lvl 5 assaulter 3 have 12 kills. More then me at the time. And continue to get kills up until I switched to him. My squads tend to do this and it's something I do when I spawn in normally. I was just wondering if it's pointless to set them this way or if it's worth it. Anyways great video 👍
Wow, good idea. I don't think I've ever set them to be aggressive - how do you do that? But that sounds insane! I sometimes do note some AI are so OP and other times they are bad, so maybe this is it? And thank you!
@@MajorMcDonalds sorry didn't see this till know. I'm on console so the button are probably different. Its in the order scroll wheels that pops up under Squad Behavior or maybe just behavior. It has Passive and Aggressive or the default I believe is a mix of both. Like Return fire kinda. Aggressive they shoot at everything. I noticed with the BAR squads in Normandy they will shoot across the map and get kills easy. Passive they literally do nothing. A guy can run up and Stab you and they won't shoot. Probably went for sniper squads or big flanks so the AI are quiet. It seems to effect the way they move but haven't tested it.
I have a soldier in the normandy campaing ,allies whos named rickie grimes that i randomly became relly atatched to and it would be relly cool if i could for example give him a purple heart.
I have found the best value are vehicle crew, Ground Assaulter II pilots as best pick, as they they level up fast, have enough perk points for best perks and save a lot of grind.
They are actually good for low levels :) I was level 1 on tunisua because I took a long brake from Enlisted shortly before that campaign came out… I spent two gold orders to actually have engineers as not having engineers until lvl9 sucks :))
I used my gold order on a pilot because it's a one man squad and it makes flying much more tolerable. They should come equipped with perks already and decent weapons though for the price.
I'd actually like if you could choose which level the Gold troop had when you redeem them. Because just having them just set to Assaulter 4 for example would move them past the Assaulter 3 class with the 100% Health regained from medpacks, a perk that I like very much and it would make them as pointless as before when you get a perk, that you are not interested in.
There’s no golden ticket BP soldier class for fighter pilot :(?? Why is there two attacker/bomber pilots??? I honestly feel like it was an error on the devs part what the heck
Yeah there’s loads of fighter pilot ones now, when this video was made there weren’t that many, and they also fixed gold soldiers in response to videos like this so they’re good now :)
Vasily Zaitsev and Erwin Kónig are actually based on real people. They were both great snipers. Though as happened at Enemy at the Gates, it actually is never confirmed that Vasily and Erwin engaged eachother
I'm glad I watched this.. been holding onto mine, playing in Tunisia, and the choices are laaame lol. Can I use it next pass? Edit: nvm, I read some comments.. LOL. Guess I'ma stack em up, too. Cheers!
Yeah I’ve been stacking mine up too, I feel if they add new campaign levels then they’ll add better troop class numbers like assaulter 4s, and then your assaulter 1s are not good at all :( so it makes sense to stack them IMO to not waste them unless you need some soldier desperately or just like him for some reason
Also I have 2 perfectly rolled Gold Troops (Assaulter 1 and 2 Axis Normandy (I brought one before I even started Normandy back when they were the only Gold Troops and the second one around when I was levelling up Normandy for the Axis, before the MP43 came out)) but the remaining 3/5 of the times I get low rolls
It shouldn’t be a troop order. Should be a premium squad order. Don’t give it until the end of the battle pass. They’ll get a ton of people ordering the bp but never get to the end to even get the premium squad order. So they may have to buy it anyway
It's more of paying the actual man respects by doing it. Make sure their names are remembered. And no the gold troop orders have way higher stats for skills. Gives a slight edge. And that's 9 out of 10 times all you need
Its better that they arent over powered. That would make this game pay to win vs pay to progress. Gold Order Soldiers do save time and silver which is really helpful for new players. They can be a bit gimped but they arent typically worse than soldiers bought with silver and are about equal. I wouldnt use Gold to purchase them but for the Soldier Tokens they arent that bad.
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whenever I got the gold troops order , it really disappoints me more than my exam result did lol .
do they at least get the weapons that are shown there?
and for engi 2 can he build the mg nest-?
@@yamatokurusaki5790 no haha and for the engineer 2 , to have the ability to build an mg nest IIRC you gotta upgrade your squads on the tree chart ( correct me if im wrong )
@@Unknown-xs9ul then it's waste of money :(
A problem with making the troop high level is that new player will be unable to equip these gold order troops with side arms or ammo pouches. It would be very simply fixed by making the gold order troop’s side arm and backpack slots automatically unlocked
Very good point, I forgot about that whole thing until now!
Yeah, what is point of war hero machinegunner with lvl0 rifle?
I thought that’s the whole point of a golf fully upgraded ticket order? Whether it be a vehicle a weapon or soldier
Finally!
Finally somebody is talking about this issue. I've made a small Forum thread about this a some time ago, when I got my 4th gold troop order from the log-in reward. And of course the Snail is doing the most Snail thing imaginable: it's giving me more and more of them from the rewards - I have 6 gold troop orders now.
I have to say your ideas are pretty good and quite "effortless" for DF to implement.
Not sure I saw the forum thread unless it was one of those I linked in the description, but yes it has so much potential but they are implemented really poorly at the moment! 6 gold troop orders?? I don't know whether to say you are lucky or not 🤣
I understand where this video is going, but I would just like to point that allied gold solders on Normandy are real life medal of honor recipients, and they gave all. I think it's a cool way of remembering them. Look em up on google sometime... everyone of them has their own heroic story.
That’s honestly why the only gold trooper I got/use is Audie Murphy. My dad’s favorite actor a goat
I got the "exclusive Normandy allied soldier" after getting the rank of marshal and I feel short changed and disappointed at the meager reward. If dark flow could change it to a tank,plane with crews or exclusive weapons then it would feel more rewarding and worth the effort in getting the rank of marshal.
V star soldiers lost their point once the Academy was scraped. You had to "kill" 2/3 of your best IV stars (you see what I did here, stars, not rank/level confusion lol) soldiers to get the one V star through Academy. They added rank II and III gold order soldiers in later battlepass seasons, but they are pointless if you don't have red tree maxed out for that specific squad. Edit: I think the gold orders soldiers should be veteran level, that would really make them exclusive, at least at this point until the veteran becomes available.
i think that it would be good if you could trade gold orders for silver or other gold orders (types)
@John Hathorne Try to replace your current soldier with soldier that has maximum perks point
Some day... some day they'll release the BP on time lol
Excellent video comrade o7
"Some day" is optimistic comrade, we must fear the worst
Got lucky as a beginner and snagged a max stat assaulter 3 for the axis, the biggest issue was the lack of a backpack slot until I got to assaulter 3 naturally, I agree they should all come maxed out on stats and slots ffs.
On normandy allies i have all the gold soldiers and I like sticking them all in one squad so i feel extra heroic when i get rocketed into smithereens
Gold order soldiers should always have perfect rolls (the most points possible for that kind of soldier) otherwise there really isn't any point to them.
My idea of how a gold soldier should work.
They should have the best possible perk point roll for that class. And instead of getting a random roll of perks like every normal soldier, you're able to manually select the specific perks you want
Vasily Zaitsev was a real person, his rifle that he used in the battle of Stalingrad is on display at the great patriotic war museum in Volgograd or at the museum in Moscow but I believe it's the former .... Major Konig was a fictional character for the movie based of a German sniper that may or may not have been real 😂, yea Zaitsev squared of with other snipers but the story about the dual between them is believed to be mostly Soviet propaganda. It's debated .... Ps I did this from memory so it may not be 100% feel free to correct me comments people
Imagine having Mikhail Kalashnikov as a tanker III in moscow
I got 4 ads in the first 3 minutes
Really? Huh, I'll check my settings to stop that happening so much. Not gonna lie didn't know that could happen, sorry!
@@MajorMcDonalds All good, I understand
Love the idea of getting more perk points, beyond the roll; for long term performance of individual soldiers.
Lots of good ideas in this vid, cheers
I spent one of my golden troop orders on the engineer II for the German side in Normandy and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even have enough point thingys to get 35% vitality.
That is tragic, RIP
You'll just need to git 35% good
Im not sure if the devs really should use historical characters for these soldiers. Wouldn’t it be even more awkward if 5 Simo Häyhäs would be present at the same battle? Perhaps as rare event rewards as with König and Zaitzev but for the general gold order soldiers I would personally prefer:
1) Name generator and/or the ability to create own custom names.
2) Face generator and/or the ability to freely chose one of the existing faces
3) Individualization options for this very character unlocked for special medals. Could be a tank commander with a Knights Cross around his neck, a soldier with an iron cross ribbon on his uniform or a Sturmabzeichen or close combat badge just to name a few German options that were actually also worn in battle. I guess a Medal of Honor around the neck would be a little too much.
5:45 well the excuse for this one is it is a Twitch Drop which will always be 4/5 stars as a soldier with a Hero medal instead of pay me money medal. buzz buzz buzz
Yeah he was 4 star but he had the lowest perk points for a 4 star MG 2 troop type 😢
I think the solution of gold orders basically eliteing your soldiers is the best way to go about changing gold orders, you get a gold order and then use it on a soldier and then they instantly hit level 5, max out their respective class perk points to whatever the highest roll is, and they get the medal icon next to their name, so a gold order would work instead as a requisition but a decoration
Gold order rifleman and engeenere seem most usefull. i use them to lvlup my fresh squads, you can put them into almost any squad. In some campaigns engeere squads are unavailable before lvl10 - ish. Engeenere + good Golden order weapon like g43kurtz is awsome,.... but Golden order soldiers have locked equipment slots (and rank2 building like mg nest) untilk you unlock high campaign lvl with their respective squad. Worth mentionning, its good those soldiers come without perks picked by devs. For Instance devs give awfull perks to premium squads.
All gold troop orders I've used get me troops with the crappiest stats
I just got a unique soldier today from a good order and i saw barely any drastic changes
Gold order assaulters and gunner IIs get perfect perks in Tunisia. They are worth picking if you want to start playing Tunisia
Really? Why??
@@MajorMcDonalds Yes they do. I have both assaulters and the gunner for axis. And the perks are the same for every player so I suggest getting them.
But if you wonder why, I don't know. Maybe they have learned their lesson since the newest gold troopers tend to be good.
cant even unlock the locked slots as they came wiht no main squad
Hey Major. I was wondering if someone would do an experiment with the AI. I noticed when you set them to aggressive when they are Lvl 4-5 they wreck the enemy. I had a game where I had a Lvl 5 assaulter 3 have 12 kills. More then me at the time. And continue to get kills up until I switched to him. My squads tend to do this and it's something I do when I spawn in normally. I was just wondering if it's pointless to set them this way or if it's worth it. Anyways great video 👍
Wow, good idea. I don't think I've ever set them to be aggressive - how do you do that? But that sounds insane! I sometimes do note some AI are so OP and other times they are bad, so maybe this is it? And thank you!
@@MajorMcDonalds sorry didn't see this till know. I'm on console so the button are probably different. Its in the order scroll wheels that pops up under Squad Behavior or maybe just behavior. It has Passive and Aggressive or the default I believe is a mix of both. Like Return fire kinda. Aggressive they shoot at everything. I noticed with the BAR squads in Normandy they will shoot across the map and get kills easy. Passive they literally do nothing. A guy can run up and Stab you and they won't shoot. Probably went for sniper squads or big flanks so the AI are quiet. It seems to effect the way they move but haven't tested it.
Love the rant
I have a soldier in the normandy campaing ,allies whos named rickie grimes that i randomly became relly atatched to and it would be relly cool if i could for example give him a purple heart.
I have found the best value are vehicle crew, Ground Assaulter II pilots as best pick, as they they level up fast, have enough perk points for best perks and save a lot of grind.
They are actually good for low levels :)
I was level 1 on tunisua because I took a long brake from Enlisted shortly before that campaign came out… I spent two gold orders to actually have engineers as not having engineers until lvl9 sucks :))
I used my gold order on a pilot because it's a one man squad and it makes flying much more tolerable. They should come equipped with perks already and decent weapons though for the price.
usually being top on the server I get around 3 bronze orders, so gathering 114 is around 34 games (not 3-4)
On a campaign I have whole whole squad of gold order smg and gold order troops
I got the assaulter in Normandy he's perfectly rolled but I named him Hatsune miku so I have no idea Wich one is the assaulter 2
I'd actually like if you could choose which level the Gold troop had when you redeem them. Because just having them just set to Assaulter 4 for example would move them past the Assaulter 3 class with the 100% Health regained from medpacks, a perk that I like very much and it would make them as pointless as before when you get a perk, that you are not interested in.
There’s no golden ticket BP soldier class for fighter pilot :(?? Why is there two attacker/bomber pilots??? I honestly feel like it was an error on the devs part what the heck
Yeah there’s loads of fighter pilot ones now, when this video was made there weren’t that many, and they also fixed gold soldiers in response to videos like this so they’re good now :)
Do you think it is worth it to buy the full access pack for the new stalingrad capaign or not?
It depends on whether you will play it a lot really, and whether you want to spend a long time grinding or you want to unlock everything quicker
Darkflow can't just use a soldiers name without getting sued 69 times from the family or the government
i got my 1st gold order i was happy until i saw its a troop order
Vasily Zaitsev and Erwin Kónig are actually based on real people. They were both great snipers. Though as happened at Enemy at the Gates, it actually is never confirmed that Vasily and Erwin engaged eachother
I'm glad I watched this.. been holding onto mine, playing in Tunisia, and the choices are laaame lol. Can I use it next pass?
Edit: nvm, I read some comments.. LOL. Guess I'ma stack em up, too. Cheers!
Yeah I’ve been stacking mine up too, I feel if they add new campaign levels then they’ll add better troop class numbers like assaulter 4s, and then your assaulter 1s are not good at all :( so it makes sense to stack them IMO to not waste them unless you need some soldier desperately or just like him for some reason
@@MajorMcDonalds agreed! Thansk for the input!
Really they are?
I though they just give you the feeling of your existence
What even is existence? I only know Enlisted
@@MajorMcDonalds lol
Give this man a raise !!!
does this video need to be updated for current state of game?
Good video. But i really don't spend money on it. I just kinda get them somehow??
You can get some for free via events
@@MajorMcDonalds Oh okay thanks, was just wondering why i have gold orders in my inventory.
I guess hating on Gold Order Soldiers is very common nowadays
Also I have 2 perfectly rolled Gold Troops (Assaulter 1 and 2 Axis Normandy (I brought one before I even started Normandy back when they were the only Gold Troops and the second one around when I was levelling up Normandy for the Axis, before the MP43 came out)) but the remaining 3/5 of the times I get low rolls
It shouldn’t be a troop order. Should be a premium squad order. Don’t give it until the end of the battle pass. They’ll get a ton of people ordering the bp but never get to the end to even get the premium squad order. So they may have to buy it anyway
Frankly just make it its own class, the only class that can be attached to every squad and can use every weapon.
I dont play enlisted but i watched this video for shits n giggles
Ig I was lucky, took Kurt Pitschmann and got 35% vitality perk on him p much right away after 2 level ups.
Wish this game had the Arma ai
It's more of paying the actual man respects by doing it. Make sure their names are remembered.
And no the gold troop orders have way higher stats for skills. Gives a slight edge. And that's 9 out of 10 times all you need
I bought 2 gold soldiers in Stalingrad for allies and have not used them so far -> number 1 in spending this useless gold ordes 📈🧠💥🌪️🚀🎖️
You poor unlucky soul
Audie Murphy is beautiful just the way he is!
Its better that they arent over powered. That would make this game pay to win vs pay to progress. Gold Order Soldiers do save time and silver which is really helpful for new players. They can be a bit gimped but they arent typically worse than soldiers bought with silver and are about equal. I wouldnt use Gold to purchase them but for the Soldier Tokens they arent that bad.
as for using real names wouldnt you need the rights to use it?
The gold order guns 1re quite good du bougth the conders mg
Hello!
Hello! :)
Vasily Zaitzev is a real sniper search it up
It be good if the gold troop ai was turned up. It's so dub and worthless really.
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Literally makes no sense.
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