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These guys have always been in the same RUclips market although Mr. Beast has done a better job of keeping his dirty laundry (whatever that may be) behind the scenes. But the partnership with Logan Paul feels like a real mask off moment; Jimmy is tacitly admitting that he's been this kind of content creator all along; like the paul brothers, prank channels, etc. And the moral of this story is that money comes first, money makes right, and you can do pretty much whatever you want as long as you use some of that cash to launder your image.
@@NuclearDetractorI 100% agree. Plus as a general rule of thumb I feel like it is extremely difficult for anyone to become as big of a name as Mr Beast while still remaining 100% ethical. Simply because the mindset needed to get that big kinda requires people to be unethical along the way
My only two issues about the Luncly situation are that Mr. Beast responded to the criticism but has yet to make a proper response to the allegations and the fact that it's being promoted as healthier than Lunchables when there is only a slight difference. Plus, it collaborated with Logan Paul and KSI, two of them going through a lawsuit with their prime drinks, and the fact one is literally known as a scammer.
Exactly, with a lot of these poor allegations, the truth is bad enough. Making things up not only makes things harder for himself and others, not only could easily be avoided, but don't even need to be done in the first place.
Literally all they had to do was make an actually healthy product and they'd save so much of their reputation it's crazy, I don't understand why these people do this stuff, you'd think they want to ruin their reputations at this point.
My personal biggest issue is that MrBeast is obsessed with promoting it as "healthier than Lunchables" when every medical expert who reviews it seems to agree it's barely a significant difference.
Mr Beast will drop a video, muddy the waters with more he said she said unverifable reports etc. And the issue will die out. Anyone who looks into it further will be told "Bro is still milking this 💀 " and anyone who defends Beast will be told "Bro is Mr.Beasts biggest glazer 💀"
A lot of people have been claiming that "this whole drama will die out, he's too big to ail, all of this is just allegation etc..." Well, Mr. Beast is being sued now. More former employees are coming out weeks after weeks. Even the OG youtubers have begun taking a stance against RUclips's golden boy So, no, things are not being buried or forgotten, and Dogpack's "blunder" hasn't marked the end of Mr. Beast's fall. If anything, the opposite would be more correct, and we're just beginning to dig deeper into the iceberg
Well unfortunately dogpack and Rosanna and Jake wettle alreadyy did that. They muddied the waters so much. Like they should be cut down 90% of their complaints Like when you break it down MAYBE 10% IS ACTUALLY important and thats being generous.
@fakerthedaker15 sure but they are gonna loose that lawsuit they aren't employees.. they are contract workers I nearly guarantee it won't go far. Just because you're being sued DOSENT mean it is for valid reasons. Its gonna get dropped because of they are consider d employees that would change legal precedent and then open up a can of worms for all gameshows to be sued.
You made a mistake at the 30:12 minutes mark Ty had to turn off the comments because he tried to get the audience to pay him thousands of dollars in order to make him whole for his idea being stolen because “that will show mr beast what he did wrong”.
@@FrierenTheSlayer yeah it doesn't, but it really cost him the goodwill of the audience watching his video if you read the comments, including myself. That said, I would have kept the donos. He didn't specify an actual use for the money so it isn't fraud. It was given freely, and if you're dumb enough to donate, you don't deserve your money back.
How come you didnt bring up the illegal gambling for the feastables website or app where kids have to buy his chocolate for a spin at the slot machine? Feel like that information would’ve been important for the illegal gambling part of the video.
honestly it could be covered in a later part 2 of the situation because of how much stuff is being suddenly brought to light with Mr Beast, which would be great to see especially the allegations get worse as time progresses
Me and the boys say some pretty unhinged shit together but 1) we don't send porn to each other, thats just fucking weird and 2) if theres ever a kid even in our remote vicinity we tone it way down, like no swearing, no inappropriate jokes, nothing like that
I’ve also heard (from a friend in set building) that Mr Beast is black listed from construction unions in Canada because he went around them to use cheap labour.
@@helwrecht1637 Nice! Thats still an unverified allegation! I dont know who you are, I do t know who your friend is, he or you could both be lying! Dont make claims without proof. Period.
Dude, I know DogPack got a lot of things wrong in his video(s), but _"this raccoon is a paid actor"_ is such an obvious joke - meant to introduce some levity into the section of his video dedicated to fake and CGI-generated stuff. No need to criticize him for that.
Why isnt it fair to criticize that he put levity in the video where it didnt belong. It just left an opening for mrbeast team to easily dismiss the rest of the issues, which is exactly what they did and they haven't said anything else since. They dismissed Dogpack as an unserious threat because that's what he made himself look like.
@@laurensb1b because anyone with a room temp IQ can grasp that nuance, they came nowhere close to "dismantling" dogpack or making him look unserious unless u are an easy manipulated sheep,
@@laurensb1b if dogpack was going for an actual lawsuit, with this video being the forefront of that which lead him to being easily dismissed, then you would have some point here. However, he was sent a cease and desist, they obviously dont want him talking and treat his allegations VERY seriously, and he's basically an independent commentary youtuber. From the start he didn't want a lawsuit, he wanted answers, and getting as many eyes as possible on the video, keeping engagement with humorous comments such as the raccoon being a paid actor, keep people around better. Most of us don't want a corporate video, any online drama only thrives through the entertainment factor, and dogpack leant into that entertainment factor. You can look at that how you will, but over 10 million people watched the first dogpack video, it is the most popular essay critique in years, which is INCREDIBLY rare for something quite unprofessional such as that video. The Jake Weddle section was handled quite poorly, going from a content cop inspired intro to someones traumatic account of events, crying at the thought, but to say that the mrbeast team doesn't take dogpack seriously is facetious. If his audience were not children that are completely oblivious to the wider world, there would be so many attempts to discredit the accusations outright, but all that does for him is get more eyes on the situation, get parents to care, and generally have even more eyes on it, which they obviously know is a TERRIBLE idea. They're essentially stuck between a rock and a hard place, hoping dogpack stops talking, and people stop caring, just as they always have with any internet drama in history.
I think at this point, the entire Mr. Beast brand needs to be investigated by a professional, criminal investigation team that isn't controlled by any company related to or affiliated with Mr. Beast.
34:10 no bro sorry. Ignorance is not an excuse for the law. Illegal lotteries (especially targeted at children) are flat out wrong no if ands or buts about it. I don’t care how “common” it is. There’s a reason it’s illegal dude🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Dogpack really messed up on the james warren stuff, but it doesn't really mean everything else he put out was false. It's the fact that Mr. Beast hasn't responded, makes me think there is some truth to it, especially since it was shown that Mr. Beast did queitly tried to hide stuff from his old videos. I would say Dogpack, if he is planning to continue this story, needs to verify his sources. His own credibility went down the drain because of that one mistake
"His own credibility went down the drain because of that one mistake" Yeah. That's the point. In this game, it only takes that one mistake and people don't trust you as a source anymore. The fact that MrBeast hasn't responded yet doesn't prove or disprove anything.
@@mrdoogle5931he came out and corrected the mistake and learned from it. That’s another reason why part 3 hasn’t been released yet. He is being very thorough, verifying everything beyond a reasonable doubt. Granted, this information is from him directly but I feel like his intentions are good. I watched an interview with him explaining a lot and he understands that his credibility is in question and when he releases the new video it will be under extreme scrutiny. If he gets caught up in another false allegation it will completely destroy his entire case. jimmy will have all the ammo he needs to say “oh that guy doesn’t know what he is talking about, look at James Warren and x y and z”
But the Mr Beast Lunchable thing is worse then the lunchable, gives kids too little calleries or too much Sodium so yeah people should be pissed at him for false advertising
Hey Roseanna pansino did a video of mrbeast illegally Gambling with mark rober how did you miss that? She's been exposing him way better than dog pack @@WillyMacShow
Willy your video addresses all the wrong things in the Dogpack video or inaccuracies which is good, but funnily enough doesnt take a look at all the things he got right wrt to the challenges. Like you havent covered anything about Beast Games but you have no issue going on about the fallacy of Dogpack and adding some random lawyer who has never seen the Mr beast contract presented to the contestants. The hypocrisy of adding a lawyer saying "Well I don't know whats in the contract but he COULD do this and that" and in the same video make a point to address Dogpacks use of the word allegedly is interesting. I really wanted you to cover this topic diving more into what Dogpack got wrong and what he got right as well as how his poor approach to his RUclips "gameshows" practices is reflecting the disaster Of Beast Games. Your videos are usually really well researched and put together but this one just seems really sub par and lacking. Like even at the end you mention Dogpack wont release all the allegations and call it stupid, fair point, then you go and say "Theres more criticism to be said but that will have to be for another time". Edit: "people are mad at me so I have to be right" Willy really let that clout he got from Hasan go to his head.
"Random lawyer"? Are you insane? LegalEagle is one of the OGs, he's been covering drama-related legal RUclips stuff for a WHILE. He's covered, among other things, Logan Paul scamming his audience with NFTs and his beef with Coffezilla, and right-wing content creators being secretly bought and supported by Russian state propaganda. And, as you might notice, his video is purely hypothetizing, he doesn't add any allegations and accusations that can't be reasonably verified. And of course he hasn't seen the contract presented to the contestants, because it's probably confidential. In other words, Mr. Devin aka. LegalEagle mostly goes off publicly available information and summarizes the internet's collective stance towards the situation, while DogPack comes out with a whole batch of new allegations, which he cannot vet properly (or doesn't want to wait for them to be vetted, see: "too long" waiting periods for the FOIA requests). DogPack really fumbled his takedowns of MrBeets, I'm sorry but that's just how it is. People will hold the fact that he got some stuff wrong against him, and will dismiss many of MrBeets wrongdoings based on that. Willy can speak with confidence because he's on the money here, I don't see how he let anything go to his head, at least not yet.
Strong first half to the video, really weak second half. Dogpack promoting false and incomplete information was really shitty, however, you just kind of devolve into nitpicking "dogpack's nitpicks" while missing the point he was making entirely and dismissing most of the allegations as "standard industry practice", "completely legal", or "an honest mistake". Bro, MrBeast is advertising this shit to kids. He puts out this "nice guy" image of himself and then slaps it on a chocolate bar and tells kids to buy it because its healthier. His persona and videos being completely fake and manufactured may seem obvious to us as adults, but his target audience (Children) falls for it hook, line and sinker. Maybe none of it is technically illegal, but that doesn't make his business practices and general disingenuousness morally correct.
@WillyMacShow The problem is that not only are these being marketed towards kids, but Mr.Beast and his partners are claiming their products are better/healthier options. That on top of Mr. Beast trying to come off as altruistic. Is it not illegal, maybe but it's still scummy business tactics that they're using to get kids to buy this stuff while trying act like the good guys. Yes the rest of the industry does this too and it's all bad. It's just easier to call out content creators cause we have a face and a name in comparison to old giant megacorps.
the whole waiting for everything to be dropped before responding plan has backfired so much. like ludwig said at the start of it all jimmy told him he was planning to respond to everything when dogpack dropped his 3rd and final video, but then dogpack eluded to more stuff, and jimmy still hasnt responded.
@@zonatedspore97acamas Dogpack is gatekeeping the next step towards a resolution to this disaster, has gotten zero results, fucked up along the way, but everyone else is coping. How do you figure that, chief? Break it down for us.
Great video as usual. The big issue I have with Lunchly isn't the content itself, but the advertising to it, as a better for you product, which has been proven to be false. Not to mention that joining notorious scammers like KSI and Logan Paul on a collab when you're in the midst of a controversy is a completely terrible idea.
In all likelihood it was a contractual obligation from before the controversy. I don't think you can release a food product on a whim. No one wants to be the pink sauce lady.
It just bothers me how clueless Logan and KSI are about their product. A sports hydration drink is supposed to be primarily sugar and salt, as it is meant to quickly replenish nutrients you lose in your sweat. Logan specifically made Prime low sodium for "health reasons", meaning it barely works for real sports applications. Gatorade is flat out better in every instance.
@@MasterAlex06 Logan and MSI were just the spokespeople, I really don't believe they bothered to learn much more about the drink other than the selling points like, low sodium, electrolytes, low sugar, etc. And I don't think either of them care how healthy that drink is. As long as it makes them money, they will not have any remorse on selling bad products to their audience. They've shown this before with Pump and Dumps, NFTs, among others
Healthier does not mean better. Lunchily as is what it claims to be. Better for you than Lunchables 🤷♂️ like what is the big deal Logan Paul and KSI okay fine to hate them it’s not an issue, don’t buy
@@HankHillBentOver Our argument is that even though it's technically healthier on paper it's not a significant enough improvement to matter. Nobody here said that MrBeast flat out stated it was good for your health, just that he oversells the benefits in a dishonest way. I'm also personally critical of the inclusion of Prime as it's had a lot of criticism from actual doctors for being an objectively poor hydration beverage. Sorry for being critical of a product made and advertised by a well-documented scammer.
I don't think the take of "he shouldn't have made a career of being a Mr Beast contestant" makes much sense. He wasn't just a contestant. He was a employee there. Mr Beast was pressuring him to continue even after saying no is pretty good reason to think it's going to drastically harm his job security. Not to mention he wouldn't be in a good place to make judgement with the sleep deprivation and isolation etc.
@@WillyMacShow but if hes doing the challenge... then it means hes being employed by Mr beast for the video? regardless of if hes a permanent employee or temporary contractor, hes still an employee and would be classed as one legally too ( Idk why i have to explain this, it seems like common sense to me )..... Your entire video is reaching buddy do better...
@@giovanniroman6335 willy literally implies in the title that mrbeast has pedoph1lic cult in his company, if he mrbeast really paid willi, don't you think he would want that title remvoed? Use your damn brain
Facts, these RUclipsrs will do research for hours it find out if someone jerked off to Lxli pxrn but won’t do the basic google search to see if an advertisement even works or isn’t a scam
Facts, these RUclipsrs will do research for hours it find out if someone jerked off to Lxli pxrn but won’t do the basic google search to see if an advertisement even works or isn’t a scam
Well they did claim lunchables was a healthy alternative. I think ksi was the one that said it. So i believe your wrong there. Plus mr beast claims his videos are never fake. Its nitpicky but using cgi and passing it as real just makes him seem a liar. Finally he also initially advertised feastables as healthier than hershey, yet now its similer is nutritional value. This i also believe your wrong about
My biggest problem with the faux lunchables is the fact they roll out & promote this product while all 3 of them are in the process of being sued!! How arrogant, narcissistic, & money hungry one must be to collaborate with with your fellow millionaire RUclipsrs to make more $$ while being sued. That pisses me off. They know kids will still flock to it because the majority of them don’t understand what’s going on. It’s disgusting imo.
@@CommentCop yeah I may have worded it bad. I believe he said its healthy a few times. And THATS the issue since obviously both aren't. Think people just dont like these sneaky lies. Especially when there's a face for it Edit: I believe the doctor put it right. Something along the lines of. It's targeted as a healthy alternative rather than a healthier alternative as it is still inherently unhealthy.
Just dropping by to say that the reason why the floating challenge guy had to turn off comments isn't because people were defending beast, but because he asked for a fundraiser of 700k or 1 million bucks to "fight mr beast and corporations who take people's ideas and then don't compensate them." And not "fight" in a legal sense, but literally just "give me money to prove a point", yeah that will show them.
the clickbait goes crazy i definitely think jimmy was 100% in the wrong with ava and delaware, but that's not a predator ring - a predator ring is like a federal crime and means decades of jail time.
I agree. A predator ring would be something like a much grander conspiracy. These people were definitely in the wrong and should get in trouble. But a predator ring is much more extreme
Yes, he did not *_actively_* run a predator ring. But as laid out in the video here, he KNEW about his closest friends and collaborators' misdeeds, and doing nothing in this situation (aka. offering tacit support thanks to his reach and popularity, so anyone else is afraid to speak up and/or do anything about it) is also punishable by law. It's a crime of knowing and negligent disregard.
Dog pack messing up the way he did, means that everything else he said should be put into question. Not saying he's 100 right or wrong on everything, but the James Warren stuff, he completely messed it up.
Yup, and people act like if you criticize Dogpack for the James Warren stuff, then you're just a Mr. Beast fan. I'm not a Mr. Beast fan, I just don't like when people spread allegations without evidence, but people can't see nuance these days... You CAN criticize Dogpack while also not liking Mr. Beast, the world isn't black and white 🙃
So does it null and void everything that he’s said before that?? Because it shouldn’t, people are going to use this as an excuse to ignore everything he says now even though most of what he’s said has been true.
None of em r confirmed.. why U think someone should be fired just cuz they r kinda reckless in job side? Don't we all have a boss that's kinda reckless?
That's true. And he worked with a fraudlent realtor. The fact that he wasn't procecuted doesn't prove that he wasn't involved in those schemes it's just means that prosecutors couldn't find evidence
I'd say Dogpack's first video was the most incriminating and his second video is slightly below (though it can go either way). His third video was most likely just him going like "Yeah I can just throw this shit out here and not get much trouble if I get stuff wrong".
44:40 ?? First you paint a picture that its completely ridiculous to claim that Beast contributed to obesity, but him bringing new kids to the candy isle is "a great achievement"? You cant flip-flop like that xD especially if there is not even proof of what jimmy says is real. In fact he admited that some stores didnt sell any chocolate bars before he would put them in front of the cashier. Yea... really impressive. Also yes, you cant say your goofa ahh chocolate is "healthy" while it not being healthy without being a hypocrit when you claim to really care about childrens health. This video is so bad faith and ignorant to the facts. Its really simple, either you say you care about health and sell accordign products or you sell lunchly and feastables and stfu about health issues. There is a reason the Coca cola CEO doesnt run around telling people he cares about health. He would get grilled just as much. Didnt think WillyMac is such a MrBeast Glazer. Constantly complaining without vetting anything himself.
Man the whole dogpack thing is so upsetting. Bro came out with a great video full of actually good points, then proceeds to release a whole bunch more videos full of bullshit cuz the clout went to his head
My problem, as an European who have never had a lunchable, is that they market as an replacement, where they cut out sodium and saturated fats, when they say it is better If they just said "we're launching our own lunch meal!" Jacksepticeye, for example, didn't launch his coffee by saying it is bettwr for you than other brands
the weirdest part is despite dogpacks poor reseach on at least one part, Mr.Beast company don't rip his video appart with a response.it's very common to attack that one weak spot of an allegation video and people go "well if that part is poorly researched, what else is poorly reseached, too?" .... them not go for it makes it more suspicious ... didn't they noticed because the alligation is true he just picked a wrong example? do they let it slide because they fear a worse crime will come to light if people snoop deeper so keep it quiet and people forget about it is better for them?
Jimmy's waiting for all the allegations to come out to respond to them. DogPack alluded to more allegations in his latest video so that's why Jimmy is still holding off
@@sundown6806that’s the weird thing though. Jimmy might want to wait. But a lawyer wouldn’t. Assuming Dogpack didn’t get any single thing correct, it would be a lawyer’s wet dream to instantly devour that and dismantle it
@@CoOlKyUbI96no most lawyers will flat out tell you not to respond to accusations. They do so in order to get understand what is/going to be said. Also to save their client from incriminating themselves.
The only thing I really disagree with you on is the whole Lunchly thing because, even if its healthier, its basically comparing a Big Mac to a Quarter Pounder. Its still unhealthy and its being promoted as such. Sure, Jimmy isn't saying its the healthiest in the world, but KSI and Logan sure as hell are trying to say it. Its being advertised as healthy, people are expecting a healthier product if it is meant to be healthy. Its marketed towards kids and kids shouldn't be encouraged to have unhealthy shit for lunch every day. Its not fixing the issue with Lunchables. Its just putting a minor bandaid on the issue. Everything else in the video, I agree with Quick edit here: I know fast food does the same thing, but the thing is, Mr. Beast is a RUclipsr. RUclipsrs should be put at a higher standard than corporate entities. Yes, fast food products are unhealthy for kids but they aren't being promoted to them as a daily thing to be eaten, and parents should focus on feeding their kids right. The whole defending Jimmy on the Lunchly thing felt like you were glazing him a little. I have no issue with RUclipsrs making merch or products but if its being advertised as healthy and if its not even that healthy to begin with, I have an issue with it.
@@nerdjournal’ waa it’s not about the people producing and releasing the product it’s about the parents 🤬’ man shut the hell up. Yay they should all be aloud to release this terrible crap shouldn’t they :)
@@nerdjournalthe owners of a brand still have the responsibility to advertise correctly or within reason. It’s why you never see beer companies or tobacco companies saying their product are made for infants
Then you should show the same hatred towards KFC, McDonalds, etc, all those fast food chain. I agree, it's wrong. That's why children have parents to guide them.
@bookle5829 Dogpacks point is that they are only adding to the issue of childhood obesity and the health crisis Americans face. I hate all fast food and junk good brands myself. As far as parents go, clearly there have been generations upon generations of parents that have failed their children already. It's how the health crisis got this way in the first place. Mr Beast definitely deserves the flak he's relieved for Feastables and Lunchly, but parents are also to blame as well.
I don't think it's wrong 100% of the time, kids can enjoy unhealthy things just like anyone else, you just have to watch what you eat. The issue isn't that it's unhealthy it's that it's branded as a "healthier option." Yeah, technically it is, but it's like having one pile of shit versus two piles of shit, sure, one is better, but it's still a pile of shit. If he simply branded it as an alternative to launchables I don't think anyone would have an issue. (Aside from the fact that he's working with two known scammers, one of which is a crybaby who can't take criticism)
Why are you defending Lunchly? They advertised it as healthier when doctors already said it was only used as a marketing tactic. Plus Logan Paul and ksi’s response videos were so childish ☠️
Him saying allegedly 1000x times doesn't shield him from a defamation case, as it doesn't protect him from being hit for reckless disregard for the truth, which his abysmal efforts to verify anything absolutely prove he has.
There's a goofy throw-shit-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks mentality amongst the under 40 crowd when it comes to sex crimes, fuck due process, fuck the presumption of innocence, they have "justice" to pursue... Cosby walked because things werent done correctly, remember that
Yeah, well... OJ Simpson walked even though things were done correctly in our justice system, but he managed to get public perception behind him, plus the best and fiercest lawyers, and the jurors were swayed. He got away with it right up until his death. So even our justice system gets it wrong sometimes, but yeah, you're right: the standards of our good old "internet vigilantes" are way, WAY lower.
nobody is saying Mr Beast is killing people the critisism is, he is selling junk food under the guise of "its healthier" when it aint, its the tactics alot of big corporations use we call the companies that advertise junk food and drugs healthy as "greedy" but when Mr Beast does it, its fine? Your really going to say PRIME the drink that supposedly contains 200 milligrams of caffeine is healthier the carpi-sun? Both are garbage for your body you cant claim you care about health while at the same time trying to sell chocolate to kids, putting PRIME into lunchable knock offs made for kids and other products again, nobody is saying Mr Beast is killing people, its just greedy/shady business practices, conducted by a man who clearly does not care about children's safety now yes "don't like it don't buy is" is a point you can make, dosent mean its free from criticism, if this is the case then no corporations can be criticized cause you don't have to buy their products, its a stupid argument to make
@@bookle5829 yeah with him not having proper medicare during beast games and he is selling unhealthy chocolate and lunchly with false advertisement, he doesnt care but also doesnt unalive
Mrbeast never claimed his products are healthy, he claimed they are health(ier) than the competitor, if a choccolate bar 1 has 49 grams of surgar and choccolate bar 2 has 50 grams of sugar, if i say choccolate bar 1 is healthier then choccolate bar 2 i'm correct even if the difference is so small it's practically irrelevant
"People who don't eat chocolate going to the candy aisle to get feastables... I'm bringing new customers to the aisle" "That's an incredible business achievement" Next time I see a dude selling 'stuff' on the corner I'll be sure to praise him over his business achievements🤣
@willymacshow ..... because you woke me up with a notification for your vid after a night of drinking Willy😅 Just took business achievement and new customers and rolled with it. Sometimes jokes land and sometimes they crash😅 To be fair addicts to tend to turn to candy to fight addiction..... so maybe that's where my mind went.
The funniest thing to this day to me is seeing Jake act all cool and posting his banger two word tweets, only to then write a whole ass essay because now he has to explain why he didn’t address his menace of a brother.
Willy, the reason lunchly is criticized is because it was selled as a healtier alternative than lunchables, something that isn't true is literslly the same thing but with less salt (replaced by other artificial and unhealthy flavours) Really not a problem with dunking on pack of dogs but sometimes you sound like you glaze mr breast.
It's just a sheedy as marketing strategy... Who tf cares .. at the end it's on the parents if they wanna buy their kids a 4$ trash food or 2$ trash food...
@@tanvirsourav83no it’s not!! Can’t stand this brain dead argument where everyone wants to blame parents, actually no, blame the people actually releasing the product, stop acting like they’re innocent bystanders.
@@DankyKang96bro I walked past Lunchly’s in the supermarket the other day and chose not to buy it. Two things can be true at the same time. Lunchly can be really bad for you, and we also still have the ability to choose whether or not to buy it. Parents aren’t automatically robbed of telling their kids no. It may be hard if the kids throw a fit, but the choice is still there
@@DankyKang96nobody is acting like they are innocent bystanders. Companies marketing towards kids is absolutely nothing new, think of all the ads you saw on Nickelodeon. The only difference is that this is Mrbeast. I’m not defending marketing towards children, I believe it’s wrong, but the irony of reasoning is ridiculous. Parents are ABSOLUTELY responsible for what their children purchase, don’t even argue otherwise.
@@samman9738I’m genuinely curious then how you expect any change to happen? When can people start making an effort for change if every time they’ll get shut down because “other companies do the same thing”? Just because other companies do the same things it doesn’t make them right
I find it crazy how Ludwig has been one of the only bigger RUclipsrs to actually cover the MrBeast situation. Even if they didn't want to talk or wait till everything's out I still find it crazy how they can't bring themselves to talk about it as apposed to the way they handled the Kris situation.
when you say “they” are you talking about other youtubers? looks like ludwig covered both mr beast and ava kris tyson? i have not watch either video, tho.
For the love of god, "no random subs" is correct. Have you ever seen an overseas viewer? Someone who doesn't ever speak even eng, be e-mailed to get a chance on the show? Fled out of africa to america? For example, "Sub to get a chance to be part", NO, you want to play? You gotta do the same procedure people do in any other game shows. You apply, audition to get casted. Simple as that. Sub is probably one of the requirements but this isn't the same as getting a random note from mb production that you're invited to be on the show. Now you might say this is common sense, but these are children or foreigners overseas who don't know there's actually -0 chance you're ever gonna get an invitation and be fly out to america wtvr. If mr beast just outright says you can audition for a casting call but you have to sub first and preferably you speak english? That's better transparency but NO, He says "sub to get a chance to be in a mb production". That's it. That's MISLEADING.
Wouldn’t the fall of Rome be considered the first fall of predators? Wait no that was Sodom & Gomorrah… wait no it was the great flood… wait no it was when the meteor hit the dinosaurs!
If you think it’s only gonna take a year to take out predators you’re very optimistic, this year will hopefully be the first steps in changing the culture behind how prevalent it is
Uh oh, you said something negative about the messiah Dogpack. You're gonna evoke the glazers to completely ignore the video and call you a Mr.Beast shill.
@@TheWit88 probably because a fuck-up like that one speaks to the fact he’s not taking this as seriously as he should, since it’s dealing with actual issues of criminality Don’t play detective if you’re gonna fall back on not being one when you shoot your own credibility in the balls
Lol, I'm guilty of saying he kinda sounds like a mr.beast shill. Mostly because the majority of this is about bullshit. He mentions the bad shit but focuses on the dumb allegations. Which is almost as dumb as making the allegations. Dogpack made mistakes, and undoubtedly he will literally pay for them. But it definitely got the ball rolling.... Now mrbeast is like Indiana Jones, running from that ball, out of a trapped catacomb he willingly went into.
@@TheTarman lol, I dunno if my UI is screwed, I posted twice because one didn't show up... It seems like you are responding to the one I thought didn't show. Oops if I posted twice. I agree he fucked up. But like I said in my repost, it definitely got the ball rolling.
I don't get why people get so much on Dogpack for the allegation. He used it correctly - he said it's alleged, never that it's 100% that guy who did it and was transparent about it, even mentioning that it might be the wrong person. Then he made a public tweet to make sure that people know that allegation wasn't proven true. No one else checked this, so he is the source "debunking" himself. The real problem is that people treat allegation as gospel. Even if you have supporting evidence, you should still be careful about making claims publicly. If people weren't throwing the word allegedly left and right for things they actually know it's true, people wouldn't have their heads explode when the Warren alleged charges were for a different person.
He addressed it in the video. Alleged isn't a magical word that makes everything you decide to include okay, it's a way for you to not get sued for defamation. Imagine if I tweeted that you killed someone, allegedly. Sure, I might not be culpable, but does that not make me a less trustworthy source?
Bro that guy proved he was that. Proved he pitched it. Has all source of evidence of him talking about how they loved and budgeted the topic. And then the vid came out 4 months later. That is a lot of evidence to ignore cause he started a bum gofundme
I think the point here is it's not an original idea to begin with, and both Jimmy Beast and countless others have done similar things before that. So for this random guy to want millions for repeating an already known thing, is beyond ridiculous.
@@WillyMacShow An obstacle course isn't exactly original in the first place, he doesn't have a leg to stand on when he's trying to play the victim. His whiteboard "proof" directly says american ninja warrior. Iirc the obstacles he "came up with" are 1:1 ripped from ninja warrior as well; So if he's owed for his idea then by his logic he owes nintendo, and ninja warrior for their ideas. Rules for thee, not for me. Now do they owe him some compensation for his time, sure, but since they asked for receipts to reimburse him, I think he was paid and he just doesn't want to admit it since he's already made a point of being greedy with the 1.7 mil gofundme.
Yeah I say we dislike both. It’s crappy journalists or police work that can ruin a case for someone who’s totally guilty. DogPack needs to step aside and let people with more care handle this now
@@KATinBLACK He can't cuz a professional journalist would see his accusations and throw it into dumpster... His sources r DM screenshot, allegedly and I heard... Which mf is gonna help him with this... Only that woman who gave up law science for YT video...
@@tanvirsourav83 no no, I don’t mean hand over *his* shaky “evidence” over to someone. I mean let what’s already happening occur: regular journalists covering the lawsuit, actually credible whistleblowers, and well the lawsuits themselves
The Phoenix Wright music is a great touch Willy, don't know if that was you or your editors who put that in but it works perfectly for these types of exposes
I normally like your videos but feel this one is a little slimy. You first bash DogPacks reporting for not confirming something he specifically said in the video he could not confirm then go out to just repeat everything he's already reported on. You literally just reported on everything he already had in his videos while also trying to make him look like a bad source/reporter.
He is a bad reporter. The James Warren aspect of his third video is about as idiotic as it can possibly get. Bu hey if he sprinkles the word alleged everywhere I guess that means he doesn't have to be held accountable.
Dogpack knew it was unconfirmed yet released the video anyway. Then he says this person should be fired. Based on... unconfirmed things. He deserves to be bashed for misleading reporting. He is openly admitting that he is reporting rumors and hearsay. There is no reason to do that unless you want to defame someone. Its basically gossiping disguised as reporting.
I'm pretty the philanthropy thing is real, considering it's pretty impossible to fake it since he teams up with corporations and charities whenever he makes a philanthropy video, so the likelihood of him faking those videos are pretty low. infact i'm pretty sure dogpack said the philanthropy thing is real, but it doesn't help the entire world that much.
Rich people don't see it as a crime, they see it as love is love and a way to make money. Just wait until people find out about the trafficking in third world countries. But hey, opra never got punished for it and they never released the epstein list.
The raccoon? Really? Yes he was wrong to publicize the allegations that were hazy, I would not do it or explicitly state several times that this is unconfirmed. But your nitpicking just makes this video worse.
Thank you for calling out DogPack. He did point out a lot of accurate things about Mr. Beast, but most people ignore the really shady parts about him and if you criticize him then you’re defending Mr. Beast 🙄
I feel like this is a lose lose willy. People are either gonna hate it cause you weren't meaner to dogpack or hate it cause you weren't meaner to Beast. Either way you have to abandon your integrity.
@@WillyMacShow this will get lost in the fdlow of comments im sure But i disagreed with you vehemently on the Established Titles bs but stayed around because you are a genuine content creator and thats rare. If you believe in something youll defend it. Regardless, dont let this "hate" get to you, these fans are fickle just keep making good content and keep ur chin up OG
I think you are on to something here... a thing that I thought through the last few weeks now. But usually only when I have my intelligent moments. lol When I am not so much, I rather want to take a side and spread empathy... until my intelligent moment comes back. But in general it is complicated. I could become philosophical but, nah, rather everybody think for themselves. 😌☺
Out of touch is the most generous way I can describe the contents of this video. Though to be honest, this seems like you're going out of your way to attack DogPack while downplaying ANY aspect of allegations that lack 100% evidence. You even said "we dont know what the allegations in the lawsuit are" uhh, yes we do, there are specific charges, including crimes involving sexual assault.... we KNOW what the allegations are, we don't know the DETAILS of them. "How can Mr Beast make an accurate response if you don't make the proper accusations?" Tell the truth..... simple..... but he won't do that... wonder why... There's so many other things wrong with this video and your take on everything but i'm not going to waste any more time on this page... i gave you 45 minutes and was disappointed by your deluded perspective.
@@DerBomber45 eh, I dunno about that... here's the thing, i didn't EVER take the James Warren allegations as something that was unequivocally true. DogPack made it clear in his original video about it that there wasn't proof of those allegations. That being said, there are plenty of allegations that have been proven true. There's also allegations that have been made in a court of law... I never said we should believe all allegations, but attacking someone who was clear about something having NO PROOF is disingenuous. Was it a mistake to include that stuff? Maybe. I'm not fully convinced of that either. Willie spent a large segment of the video explaining how DogPack was wrong about Lakoya, and at the end of the segment said "oh but even this Beast document supports that, so maybe he was right about that"... He dismissed how Lakoya was transferred from one company to another. Even with documents showing Warren was transferred around in a similar way, and admitting that DogPack spoke about Warren and Lakoya in similar ways, he still refuses to admit that bringing allegations into the open can allow people who havn't been paid off to feel comfortable coming forward... Finally... Money can buy lots of things, including corrupt politicians/police/prosecutors/judges... People who can make charges disappear, or misdirect information, or withhold information... $700 million dollars a year is enough to give every man woman and child in America enough money to substantially change the rest of their lives... every single year.... That kind of money can change a lot of people's minds and make many people do things they would never do under normall circumstances...
About the helping people giving prophetic limb part. well im a Cambodian and i would say that almost no one know who mrbeast is at all in my country only some of us but for the people you see in the vid no theu dont know who is is. Mrbeast vid recorded in Cambodia so whoever had a argument saying that these people know mrbeast well you are being brain wash
Dogpack is exactly what you get when someone is so excited to bring someone down that they ruin their own credibility by just adding more and more stuff that makes no sense. This is why you should A) leave these things to professionals. Give your story to someone who isnt mentally stunted. B) Talk to a lawyer before you start making wild claims and exposing company secrets.
This was a very well put together video, my main gripe is around the lunchables competetor since in my opinion they are marketing it as a healthy alternative to lunchables and that they really care about what kids are eating when it is just used to make money. If they were more open about it and not trying to decieve their audiences into getting their parents to buy them instead there would be no issue. same as how no one cares about prime or featables on their own as things kids take to school
Mr Beast personally hired a team of raccoons that continue to knock over my trash bins, destroying the environment by spreading garbage all over my lawn. Pretty sure one of them is the one trained actor raccoon he used in his videos, and one night I even heard one of them say “Karl owns you budster” and then he ate a Feastables while I chased him. MR BEAST MUST BE STOPPED
“I’m not a journalist” does not absolve one’s obligation to report accurately. Hes using the exact same reply JD Vance had when confronted with the cat eating claims. “Yeah I made up the story but look at all the attention immigration is getting!” There’s no difference between these two in their practices.
Ty Ore is just, bizzare, asking for millions for his generic ahh whiteboard idea which they were already working on before he turned up. Cringe ahh. They should have paid him for his time though.
Does everybody just miss Dogpack said "Allegedly" and CLEARLY said he wasn't sure if it was the same guy? Well, I guess running stories claiming he lied and slandered is much juicier so fuck the truth...
saying alledgedly is still slimey asf when you posture allegations like this no? alot of people came away with the misinformation being truthful when all he had to do was wait a while for that. RUclipsrs aren't responisble for their audience but when you make a allegation like this without verification i think theres blame that can be attributed.
Allegations can still be damaging since reputation gets affected before any sort of conviction. That’s why people were so up in arms against false SA allegations (see Slazo, Kwite, etc) If you wanna point a finger at someone, you *have* to be sure that it’s the right person
@boss2329 39 seconds ago no views, fell off! I kid I kid, but yeah those comments are in all seriousness really annoying. Another type of comment which is annoying are those fake giveaways in the comment section
Cant forget when Dogpack argued That Surprised Witness wasn't who he referred to as the person doing the FOIA reqeusts, despite its in his vid like that, and She says she was. So Dogpack is lying to cover his errors as well
Blablabla, dogpack definitely made mistakes, and he will undoubtedly literally pay for them. But let's not glaze over the other more damning facts. We all wait for a response, and the silence is creepy.
@@TheWit88 Jimmy said he'd wait for all the allegations to come out for him to respond to them. DogPack alluded to more allegations in his latest video so that's why Jimmy's holding off on responses
did willy just try and chalk the challenger explosion to "they didn't know" my guy, you made a damn near 30 minute segment of trashing dogpack on being unknown to the truth but you literally know jack shit about what actually happened leading up to it.
35:18 Good Mythical Morning does a similar main-in entry for their "Golden Tee" sweepstakes with harsh deadlines, but no one complains there. They do add the no purchase info on all promotions (EXCEPT on instagram...) But yeah, It's just common practice, no one doing a sweepstakes wants people to enter for free. Also, nowhere in those terms does it say 10 cards.
The more I hear, the more I question the trajectory of the online community we all take part in. He's just gaining subs and not addressing anything important.. Mr Beast will continue to grow. This is how the online world works and its only going to get worse.
@@guanglaikangyi6054 At the bare minimum Willy is being deliberately dishonest about dogpack. The third video was always prefaced as being allegations and opinions, yet he doesnt point that out. He makes it seem like all three videos are allegations without evidence. The whole video really seems like he is knob jobbing Mr. Beast.
@@fomori2 "This is just my opinion, but Mr. Beast wants to kill his audience. Also, there's some allegations in this statement." Okay lmao. Furthermore, have you missed the parts where he criticizes Mr. Beast? It's not a team sport.
thanks that someone called this slop out, i felt like i was loosing my mind, because it all was freaking ridiculous and people were taking it seriously.
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You're biased towards beast especially at the end.
@@zonatedspore97acamas not at all
3,988 views in only 52 minutes ago --- truly fell off.
@@WillyMacShowyes you are, you willfully ignored the context with lunchly.
This is just one example.
Your videos about Hasan were actually good and objective.
Here you have a bias towards beast. Do better.
partnering with logan paul is where i draw the line
These guys have always been in the same RUclips market although Mr. Beast has done a better job of keeping his dirty laundry (whatever that may be) behind the scenes. But the partnership with Logan Paul feels like a real mask off moment; Jimmy is tacitly admitting that he's been this kind of content creator all along; like the paul brothers, prank channels, etc. And the moral of this story is that money comes first, money makes right, and you can do pretty much whatever you want as long as you use some of that cash to launder your image.
@@NuclearDetractorI 100% agree. Plus as a general rule of thumb I feel like it is extremely difficult for anyone to become as big of a name as Mr Beast while still remaining 100% ethical. Simply because the mindset needed to get that big kinda requires people to be unethical along the way
I 100% agree, MrBeast is such a fanboy of Logan. Logan has repeatedly scammed his fans out of thousands and will continue to do so.
Ya amazing how he did the Japanese forest infront of his child audience and is still hear like 10 years later. YT is wild.
Funny cause it's true
My only two issues about the Luncly situation are that Mr. Beast responded to the criticism but has yet to make a proper response to the allegations and the fact that it's being promoted as healthier than Lunchables when there is only a slight difference. Plus, it collaborated with Logan Paul and KSI, two of them going through a lawsuit with their prime drinks, and the fact one is literally known as a scammer.
Exactly, with a lot of these poor allegations, the truth is bad enough. Making things up not only makes things harder for himself and others, not only could easily be avoided, but don't even need to be done in the first place.
I fully agree with you. Well said
Literally all they had to do was make an actually healthy product and they'd save so much of their reputation it's crazy, I don't understand why these people do this stuff, you'd think they want to ruin their reputations at this point.
My personal biggest issue is that MrBeast is obsessed with promoting it as "healthier than Lunchables" when every medical expert who reviews it seems to agree it's barely a significant difference.
Both are scammers
Mr Beast will drop a video, muddy the waters with more he said she said unverifable reports etc. And the issue will die out. Anyone who looks into it further will be told "Bro is still milking this 💀 " and anyone who defends Beast will be told "Bro is Mr.Beasts biggest glazer 💀"
melting pot
The duality of man: 💀 or 💀
A lot of people have been claiming that "this whole drama will die out, he's too big to ail, all of this is just allegation etc..."
Well, Mr. Beast is being sued now. More former employees are coming out weeks after weeks. Even the OG youtubers have begun taking a stance against RUclips's golden boy
So, no, things are not being buried or forgotten, and Dogpack's "blunder" hasn't marked the end of Mr. Beast's fall. If anything, the opposite would be more correct, and we're just beginning to dig deeper into the iceberg
Well unfortunately dogpack and Rosanna and Jake wettle alreadyy did that. They muddied the waters so much. Like they should be cut down 90% of their complaints
Like when you break it down MAYBE 10% IS ACTUALLY important and thats being generous.
@fakerthedaker15 sure but they are gonna loose that lawsuit they aren't employees.. they are contract workers I nearly guarantee it won't go far. Just because you're being sued DOSENT mean it is for valid reasons. Its gonna get dropped because of they are consider d employees that would change legal precedent and then open up a can of worms for all gameshows to be sued.
You made a mistake at the 30:12 minutes mark
Ty had to turn off the comments because he tried to get the audience to pay him thousands of dollars in order to make him whole for his idea being stolen because “that will show mr beast what he did wrong”.
Over a million dollars. I believe it was 1.7 million, a very random and specific amount.
@@Lexielimey the amount it costed for the stuff beast bought lmfao
True, but I'll just mention that this doesn't really change the point willy was making and isn't a huge part of the video
@@FrierenTheSlayer yeah it doesn't, but it really cost him the goodwill of the audience watching his video if you read the comments, including myself. That said, I would have kept the donos. He didn't specify an actual use for the money so it isn't fraud. It was given freely, and if you're dumb enough to donate, you don't deserve your money back.
How come you didnt bring up the illegal gambling for the feastables website or app where kids have to buy his chocolate for a spin at the slot machine? Feel like that information would’ve been important for the illegal gambling part of the video.
The gambling thing was debunked by legaleagle.
because he is 1000$ Mr Beast lawyer
honestly it could be covered in a later part 2 of the situation because of how much stuff is being suddenly brought to light with Mr Beast, which would be great to see especially the allegations get worse as time progresses
Because it says "New Information" in the title, the gambling is obvious and not new.
Because he’s a shill for Mr.Beast
Me and the boys say some pretty unhinged shit together but 1) we don't send porn to each other, thats just fucking weird and 2) if theres ever a kid even in our remote vicinity we tone it way down, like no swearing, no inappropriate jokes, nothing like that
I could never imagine sending a porn video and saying “hey bro premium shit to stroke too, your welcome”
that's super cool of you guys thanks for sharing dude
you deserve a medal for basic human decency
I try not to swear around young kids, but my 9 year old nephew swears a lot more than I do. That kids got a mouth like a sailor.
I’ve also heard (from a friend in set building) that Mr Beast is black listed from construction unions in Canada because he went around them to use cheap labour.
Canada ain’t a fan of any of these 3 lmao
You sound like dogpack “ i heard” “theres a rumor” stop saying unverified allegations
Okay buddy, I was being polite.
I know personally a guy who runs a set building company and that’s what he said!
@@bullencarkerin fact, you can google it and find that several unions refuse to work for Mr Beast
@@helwrecht1637 Nice! Thats still an unverified allegation! I dont know who you are, I do t know who your friend is, he or you could both be lying! Dont make claims without proof. Period.
Dude, I know DogPack got a lot of things wrong in his video(s), but _"this raccoon is a paid actor"_ is such an obvious joke - meant to introduce some levity into the section of his video dedicated to fake and CGI-generated stuff. No need to criticize him for that.
Why isnt it fair to criticize that he put levity in the video where it didnt belong. It just left an opening for mrbeast team to easily dismiss the rest of the issues, which is exactly what they did and they haven't said anything else since.
They dismissed Dogpack as an unserious threat because that's what he made himself look like.
@@laurensb1b because anyone with a room temp IQ can grasp that nuance, they came nowhere close to "dismantling" dogpack or making him look unserious unless u are an easy manipulated sheep,
Not exactly he said it's because of them throwing it around and yelling at it
@@laurensb1b if dogpack was going for an actual lawsuit, with this video being the forefront of that which lead him to being easily dismissed, then you would have some point here. However, he was sent a cease and desist, they obviously dont want him talking and treat his allegations VERY seriously, and he's basically an independent commentary youtuber. From the start he didn't want a lawsuit, he wanted answers, and getting as many eyes as possible on the video, keeping engagement with humorous comments such as the raccoon being a paid actor, keep people around better. Most of us don't want a corporate video, any online drama only thrives through the entertainment factor, and dogpack leant into that entertainment factor. You can look at that how you will, but over 10 million people watched the first dogpack video, it is the most popular essay critique in years, which is INCREDIBLY rare for something quite unprofessional such as that video.
The Jake Weddle section was handled quite poorly, going from a content cop inspired intro to someones traumatic account of events, crying at the thought, but to say that the mrbeast team doesn't take dogpack seriously is facetious. If his audience were not children that are completely oblivious to the wider world, there would be so many attempts to discredit the accusations outright, but all that does for him is get more eyes on the situation, get parents to care, and generally have even more eyes on it, which they obviously know is a TERRIBLE idea. They're essentially stuck between a rock and a hard place, hoping dogpack stops talking, and people stop caring, just as they always have with any internet drama in history.
No one understands if he is joking or serious. He talks like he is just trolling all the time.
Shrooms effect ig
I think at this point, the entire Mr. Beast brand needs to be investigated by a professional, criminal investigation team that isn't controlled by any company related to or affiliated with Mr. Beast.
Don’t use comma if you don’t know how to bro
34:10 no bro sorry. Ignorance is not an excuse for the law. Illegal lotteries (especially targeted at children) are flat out wrong no if ands or buts about it. I don’t care how “common” it is. There’s a reason it’s illegal dude🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
But he’s not arguing the legality he’s arguing the morality I think you’ve missed the point entirely here.
@@assef7040 regardless, legally , morally. How is there a pass given here either way.
@@Mihkelwastaken a pass was given morally not legally
@@Mihkelwastaken based on morality like I just explained?
Hey Roseanna pansino did a video of mrbeast illegally Gambling with mark rober She's been exposing him way better than dog pack
Dogpack really messed up on the james warren stuff, but it doesn't really mean everything else he put out was false. It's the fact that Mr. Beast hasn't responded, makes me think there is some truth to it, especially since it was shown that Mr. Beast did queitly tried to hide stuff from his old videos. I would say Dogpack, if he is planning to continue this story, needs to verify his sources. His own credibility went down the drain because of that one mistake
"His own credibility went down the drain because of that one mistake"
Yeah. That's the point. In this game, it only takes that one mistake and people don't trust you as a source anymore.
The fact that MrBeast hasn't responded yet doesn't prove or disprove anything.
@@we_come_in_peace "Willy, Turkey Tom and the rest lost all credibility a long time ago."
How so?
@@mrdoogle5931in the past Willy had some poor takes. Tom been having poor takes too recently.
@@mrdoogle5931he came out and corrected the mistake and learned from it. That’s another reason why part 3 hasn’t been released yet. He is being very thorough, verifying everything beyond a reasonable doubt.
Granted, this information is from him directly but I feel like his intentions are good.
I watched an interview with him explaining a lot and he understands that his credibility is in question and when he releases the new video it will be under extreme scrutiny. If he gets caught up in another false allegation it will completely destroy his entire case. jimmy will have all the ammo he needs to say “oh that guy doesn’t know what he is talking about, look at James Warren and x y and z”
@@we_come_in_peace I know this might sound crazy, but they claim Dr.Disrespect is a PDF file because of HIS OWN WORDS. Your analogy doesn't work here.
BRO LEMME SLEEP
no
FUCK SLEEP
Facts I just started to fall asleep
that's what I'm saying
9am in EU, eheheh
But the Mr Beast Lunchable thing is worse then the lunchable, gives kids too little calleries or too much Sodium so yeah people should be pissed at him for false advertising
Its fking slop food man, what are you expecting lmao
Brooo imagine having Mr Beast amounts of fame & money only to fuck it up like this SMH
Actually
Hey Roseanna pansino did a video of mrbeast illegally Gambling with mark rober how did you miss that? She's been exposing him way better than dog pack
@@WillyMacShow
Willy your video addresses all the wrong things in the Dogpack video or inaccuracies which is good, but funnily enough doesnt take a look at all the things he got right wrt to the challenges. Like you havent covered anything about Beast Games but you have no issue going on about the fallacy of Dogpack and adding some random lawyer who has never seen the Mr beast contract presented to the contestants. The hypocrisy of adding a lawyer saying "Well I don't know whats in the contract but he COULD do this and that" and in the same video make a point to address Dogpacks use of the word allegedly is interesting.
I really wanted you to cover this topic diving more into what Dogpack got wrong and what he got right as well as how his poor approach to his RUclips "gameshows" practices is reflecting the disaster Of Beast Games. Your videos are usually really well researched and put together but this one just seems really sub par and lacking. Like even at the end you mention Dogpack wont release all the allegations and call it stupid, fair point, then you go and say "Theres more criticism to be said but that will have to be for another time".
Edit: "people are mad at me so I have to be right" Willy really let that clout he got from Hasan go to his head.
Clearly a paid bot😂 if MrPredator can offer weddle 190k this guy can get another 50k to defend Jimmy’s island
"Random lawyer"? Are you insane? LegalEagle is one of the OGs, he's been covering drama-related legal RUclips stuff for a WHILE. He's covered, among other things, Logan Paul scamming his audience with NFTs and his beef with Coffezilla, and right-wing content creators being secretly bought and supported by Russian state propaganda. And, as you might notice, his video is purely hypothetizing, he doesn't add any allegations and accusations that can't be reasonably verified. And of course he hasn't seen the contract presented to the contestants, because it's probably confidential.
In other words, Mr. Devin aka. LegalEagle mostly goes off publicly available information and summarizes the internet's collective stance towards the situation, while DogPack comes out with a whole batch of new allegations, which he cannot vet properly (or doesn't want to wait for them to be vetted, see: "too long" waiting periods for the FOIA requests).
DogPack really fumbled his takedowns of MrBeets, I'm sorry but that's just how it is. People will hold the fact that he got some stuff wrong against him, and will dismiss many of MrBeets wrongdoings based on that. Willy can speak with confidence because he's on the money here, I don't see how he let anything go to his head, at least not yet.
Spot on. but Willy just wanted something controversial . Hes pissed how many subs dogpack got, just from a couple videos.
Have you actually seen the video?
well ok are you arguing that willy shouldve covered the stuff dogpack got right?
Strong first half to the video, really weak second half. Dogpack promoting false and incomplete information was really shitty, however, you just kind of devolve into nitpicking "dogpack's nitpicks" while missing the point he was making entirely and dismissing most of the allegations as "standard industry practice", "completely legal", or "an honest mistake". Bro, MrBeast is advertising this shit to kids. He puts out this "nice guy" image of himself and then slaps it on a chocolate bar and tells kids to buy it because its healthier. His persona and videos being completely fake and manufactured may seem obvious to us as adults, but his target audience (Children) falls for it hook, line and sinker. Maybe none of it is technically illegal, but that doesn't make his business practices and general disingenuousness morally correct.
But those are legit reasons. If you’re mad at MrBeast for the Rubik’s cube thing or not selling salads for lunch. Idk what to say to you
Dogpack sucks,
@@kingcrustytut7544 glazing willy huh?
@@WillyMacShowthere id a big difference between selling a supposed heslthy alternative when it isn't to not selling salad, cmon dude
@WillyMacShow
The problem is that not only are these being marketed towards kids, but Mr.Beast and his partners are claiming their products are better/healthier options. That on top of Mr. Beast trying to come off as altruistic. Is it not illegal, maybe but it's still scummy business tactics that they're using to get kids to buy this stuff while trying act like the good guys. Yes the rest of the industry does this too and it's all bad. It's just easier to call out content creators cause we have a face and a name in comparison to old giant megacorps.
My biggest complaint with lunchly is Logan’s response to DanTDM and how stupid it was and KSI acting like a baby but then says he’s not the one mad
the whole waiting for everything to be dropped before responding plan has backfired so much.
like ludwig said at the start of it all jimmy told him he was planning to respond to everything when dogpack dropped his 3rd and final video, but then dogpack eluded to more stuff, and jimmy still hasnt responded.
That's so beast can't do mental gymnastics and lie.
Use your f*cking brain.
You're over exaggerating and just naive.
@@zonatedspore97acamas bros living in your head rent free
@@zonatedspore97acamas Dogpack is gatekeeping the next step towards a resolution to this disaster, has gotten zero results, fucked up along the way, but everyone else is coping. How do you figure that, chief? Break it down for us.
Long story short. Mr beast is pretty scummy
and so is willy apparently considering he decided to go after dogpacks tiny mistakes instead of mrbeats.
Great video as usual. The big issue I have with Lunchly isn't the content itself, but the advertising to it, as a better for you product, which has been proven to be false. Not to mention that joining notorious scammers like KSI and Logan Paul on a collab when you're in the midst of a controversy is a completely terrible idea.
In all likelihood it was a contractual obligation from before the controversy. I don't think you can release a food product on a whim. No one wants to be the pink sauce lady.
It just bothers me how clueless Logan and KSI are about their product. A sports hydration drink is supposed to be primarily sugar and salt, as it is meant to quickly replenish nutrients you lose in your sweat. Logan specifically made Prime low sodium for "health reasons", meaning it barely works for real sports applications. Gatorade is flat out better in every instance.
@@MasterAlex06 Logan and MSI were just the spokespeople, I really don't believe they bothered to learn much more about the drink other than the selling points like, low sodium, electrolytes, low sugar, etc. And I don't think either of them care how healthy that drink is. As long as it makes them money, they will not have any remorse on selling bad products to their audience. They've shown this before with Pump and Dumps, NFTs, among others
Healthier does not mean better. Lunchily as is what it claims to be. Better for you than Lunchables 🤷♂️ like what is the big deal
Logan Paul and KSI okay fine to hate them it’s not an issue, don’t buy
@@HankHillBentOver Our argument is that even though it's technically healthier on paper it's not a significant enough improvement to matter. Nobody here said that MrBeast flat out stated it was good for your health, just that he oversells the benefits in a dishonest way. I'm also personally critical of the inclusion of Prime as it's had a lot of criticism from actual doctors for being an objectively poor hydration beverage. Sorry for being critical of a product made and advertised by a well-documented scammer.
I don't think the take of "he shouldn't have made a career of being a Mr Beast contestant" makes much sense. He wasn't just a contestant. He was a employee there. Mr Beast was pressuring him to continue even after saying no is pretty good reason to think it's going to drastically harm his job security. Not to mention he wouldn't be in a good place to make judgement with the sleep deprivation and isolation etc.
Jake Weddle already left MrBeast by the time he did the challenge
@@WillyMacShow beast invited him back...
@@WillyMacShow but if hes doing the challenge... then it means hes being employed by Mr beast for the video? regardless of if hes a permanent employee or temporary contractor, hes still an employee and would be classed as one legally too ( Idk why i have to explain this, it seems like common sense to me )..... Your entire video is reaching buddy do better...
This video was more defending mr beast and shitting on dogpack. Weird
It wouldn’t look that way if DogPack didn’t have a colossal disregard for truth when covering serious allegations
I agree, I wonder how much he was paid for doing so.
commentary channels live off ripping each other off and accusing each other of false claims
@@giovanniroman6335 willy literally implies in the title that mrbeast has pedoph1lic cult in his company, if he mrbeast really paid willi, don't you think he would want that title remvoed? Use your damn brain
He got that MrPredator money😂
why you promoting air scams and hangover shit?
Facts, these RUclipsrs will do research for hours it find out if someone jerked off to Lxli pxrn but won’t do the basic google search to see if an advertisement even works or isn’t a scam
Facts, these RUclipsrs will do research for hours it find out if someone jerked off to Lxli pxrn but won’t do the basic google search to see if an advertisement even works or isn’t a scam
why you ask stupid questions?
Money 💰
@@ennuiblue4295 not a stupid question bozo
MrBeast more like MrBreast
I read that in nux voice lmao
Lol imagine boobs
Mrbreast give me money
Ok pyro
Ayo
Well they did claim lunchables was a healthy alternative. I think ksi was the one that said it. So i believe your wrong there.
Plus mr beast claims his videos are never fake. Its nitpicky but using cgi and passing it as real just makes him seem a liar.
Finally he also initially advertised feastables as healthier than hershey, yet now its similer is nutritional value. This i also believe your wrong about
My biggest problem with the faux lunchables is the fact they roll out & promote this product while all 3 of them are in the process of being sued!! How arrogant, narcissistic, & money hungry one must be to collaborate with with your fellow millionaire RUclipsrs to make more $$ while being sued. That pisses me off. They know kids will still flock to it because the majority of them don’t understand what’s going on. It’s disgusting imo.
Well it is a “healthy alternative” to Lunchables. Neither is actually healthy, it’s all just marketing like Coke Zero & Diet Coke
@@CommentCop yeah I may have worded it bad. I believe he said its healthy a few times. And THATS the issue since obviously both aren't.
Think people just dont like these sneaky lies. Especially when there's a face for it
Edit: I believe the doctor put it right. Something along the lines of. It's targeted as a healthy alternative rather than a healthier alternative as it is still inherently unhealthy.
Just dropping by to say that the reason why the floating challenge guy had to turn off comments isn't because people were defending beast, but because he asked for a fundraiser of 700k or 1 million bucks to "fight mr beast and corporations who take people's ideas and then don't compensate them." And not "fight" in a legal sense, but literally just "give me money to prove a point", yeah that will show them.
the clickbait goes crazy
i definitely think jimmy was 100% in the wrong with ava and delaware, but that's not a predator ring - a predator ring is like a federal crime and means decades of jail time.
A predator ring is Diddy-level sht
I agree. A predator ring would be something like a much grander conspiracy. These people were definitely in the wrong and should get in trouble. But a predator ring is much more extreme
Yes, he did not *_actively_* run a predator ring. But as laid out in the video here, he KNEW about his closest friends and collaborators' misdeeds, and doing nothing in this situation (aka. offering tacit support thanks to his reach and popularity, so anyone else is afraid to speak up and/or do anything about it) is also punishable by law. It's a crime of knowing and negligent disregard.
@@e.c.winner7252did dogpack go to a Diddy party?
Dog pack messing up the way he did, means that everything else he said should be put into question. Not saying he's 100 right or wrong on everything, but the James Warren stuff, he completely messed it up.
His third video kinda ruined his credibility a lot
@@ideac. Exactly.
Yup, and people act like if you criticize Dogpack for the James Warren stuff, then you're just a Mr. Beast fan.
I'm not a Mr. Beast fan, I just don't like when people spread allegations without evidence, but people can't see nuance these days...
You CAN criticize Dogpack while also not liking Mr. Beast, the world isn't black and white
🙃
So does it null and void everything that he’s said before that?? Because it shouldn’t, people are going to use this as an excuse to ignore everything he says now even though most of what he’s said has been true.
@@DankyKang96 no, people are gonna ask for actual hard evidence now instead of blindly believing a bunch of "i heard from"
Hi, I'm an alleged former mr.beast employee, and I have seen Jimmy shit and not wipe.
Dogpack accused James Warren of many things, 1 of them was the false DV.
James Warren still needs to be fired regardless of that mistake.
So James Warren should be fired for something that's not been proven, Do you realize how stupid you sound.
None of em r confirmed.. why U think someone should be fired just cuz they r kinda reckless in job side? Don't we all have a boss that's kinda reckless?
That's true. And he worked with a fraudlent realtor. The fact that he wasn't procecuted doesn't prove that he wasn't involved in those schemes it's just means that prosecutors couldn't find evidence
*false dv CHARGE.
Yeah and Dogpack had proof of NONE of them
I'd say Dogpack's first video was the most incriminating and his second video is slightly below (though it can go either way). His third video was most likely just him going like "Yeah I can just throw this shit out here and not get much trouble if I get stuff wrong".
Yup, it got worse and worse
first
Yooooo it's the goat
How in the goddamn?
@@WillyMacShowyou did a video on my friend camy a while back thanks for being so nice to him
whoa
yooo
"Unhealthy kids are better for the youtube algorithm so he's making knock off lunchables" is the most tinfoil hat bullshit I've heard in a while
44:40 ??
First you paint a picture that its completely ridiculous to claim that Beast contributed to obesity, but him bringing new kids to the candy isle is "a great achievement"? You cant flip-flop like that xD especially if there is not even proof of what jimmy says is real. In fact he admited that some stores didnt sell any chocolate bars before he would put them in front of the cashier. Yea... really impressive.
Also yes, you cant say your goofa ahh chocolate is "healthy" while it not being healthy without being a hypocrit when you claim to really care about childrens health. This video is so bad faith and ignorant to the facts. Its really simple, either you say you care about health and sell accordign products or you sell lunchly and feastables and stfu about health issues. There is a reason the Coca cola CEO doesnt run around telling people he cares about health. He would get grilled just as much.
Didnt think WillyMac is such a MrBeast Glazer. Constantly complaining without vetting anything himself.
You can care about health and still eat a chocolate bar. Are you 5 years old? Lmfao
Bros in Waco Texas back in the 1990s
@@sirharmony8626 Wft did I just read? This is probably worst take I’ve read all year.
"This raccoon is *ACTUALLY NOT A PAID ACTOR* "
bro trying way too hard
Man the whole dogpack thing is so upsetting. Bro came out with a great video full of actually good points, then proceeds to release a whole bunch more videos full of bullshit cuz the clout went to his head
My problem, as an European who have never had a lunchable, is that they market as an replacement, where they cut out sodium and saturated fats, when they say it is better
If they just said "we're launching our own lunch meal!"
Jacksepticeye, for example, didn't launch his coffee by saying it is bettwr for you than other brands
+infinite aura for not using tiktok censor words like graped
the weirdest part is despite dogpacks poor reseach on at least one part, Mr.Beast company don't rip his video appart with a response.it's very common to attack that one weak spot of an allegation video and people go "well if that part is poorly researched, what else is poorly reseached, too?" ....
them not go for it makes it more suspicious ... didn't they noticed because the alligation is true he just picked a wrong example? do they let it slide because they fear a worse crime will come to light if people snoop deeper so keep it quiet and people forget about it is better for them?
"But wait, there is more" moment
Jimmy's waiting for all the allegations to come out to respond to them. DogPack alluded to more allegations in his latest video so that's why Jimmy is still holding off
@@sundown6806that’s the weird thing though. Jimmy might want to wait. But a lawyer wouldn’t. Assuming Dogpack didn’t get any single thing correct, it would be a lawyer’s wet dream to instantly devour that and dismantle it
@@CoOlKyUbI96 he probably wants to know what exactly he's being accused of and then disprove it all at once so as to not drag it out
@@CoOlKyUbI96no most lawyers will flat out tell you not to respond to accusations. They do so in order to get understand what is/going to be said. Also to save their client from incriminating themselves.
Deorio is soo annoying. He's always on the verge of laughing because he thinks he's the funniest person ever. He's just annoying.
The only thing I really disagree with you on is the whole Lunchly thing because, even if its healthier, its basically comparing a Big Mac to a Quarter Pounder. Its still unhealthy and its being promoted as such. Sure, Jimmy isn't saying its the healthiest in the world, but KSI and Logan sure as hell are trying to say it. Its being advertised as healthy, people are expecting a healthier product if it is meant to be healthy. Its marketed towards kids and kids shouldn't be encouraged to have unhealthy shit for lunch every day. Its not fixing the issue with Lunchables. Its just putting a minor bandaid on the issue.
Everything else in the video, I agree with
Quick edit here: I know fast food does the same thing, but the thing is, Mr. Beast is a RUclipsr. RUclipsrs should be put at a higher standard than corporate entities. Yes, fast food products are unhealthy for kids but they aren't being promoted to them as a daily thing to be eaten, and parents should focus on feeding their kids right. The whole defending Jimmy on the Lunchly thing felt like you were glazing him a little. I have no issue with RUclipsrs making merch or products but if its being advertised as healthy and if its not even that healthy to begin with, I have an issue with it.
Kids still have parents. Parents are the ones who decide what to buy their kids. Kids don't do their own shopping.
@@nerdjournal go back to 2013 gta 5
@@nerdjournal’ waa it’s not about the people producing and releasing the product it’s about the parents 🤬’ man shut the hell up. Yay they should all be aloud to release this terrible crap shouldn’t they :)
@@nerdjournalthe owners of a brand still have the responsibility to advertise correctly or within reason. It’s why you never see beer companies or tobacco companies saying their product are made for infants
@@CoOlKyUbI96 Took the words straight out of my mouth
It's wrong to promote these junk food items to children, period.
Then you should show the same hatred towards KFC, McDonalds, etc, all those fast food chain.
I agree, it's wrong. That's why children have parents to guide them.
@bookle5829 Dogpacks point is that they are only adding to the issue of childhood obesity and the health crisis Americans face. I hate all fast food and junk good brands myself.
As far as parents go, clearly there have been generations upon generations of parents that have failed their children already. It's how the health crisis got this way in the first place. Mr Beast definitely deserves the flak he's relieved for Feastables and Lunchly, but parents are also to blame as well.
I don't think it's wrong 100% of the time, kids can enjoy unhealthy things just like anyone else, you just have to watch what you eat. The issue isn't that it's unhealthy it's that it's branded as a "healthier option."
Yeah, technically it is, but it's like having one pile of shit versus two piles of shit, sure, one is better, but it's still a pile of shit.
If he simply branded it as an alternative to launchables I don't think anyone would have an issue. (Aside from the fact that he's working with two known scammers, one of which is a crybaby who can't take criticism)
I can’t get behind pearl clutching when it is standard for all businesses. Jimmy is a RUclipsr not Michelle Obama
@@WillyMacShowI get that except when companies promote it as healthy....which he did, as well as ksi with lunchly
Why are you defending Lunchly? They advertised it as healthier when doctors already said it was only used as a marketing tactic. Plus Logan Paul and ksi’s response videos were so childish ☠️
The video has 5k likes and 100k views 💀
Him saying allegedly 1000x times doesn't shield him from a defamation case, as it doesn't protect him from being hit for reckless disregard for the truth, which his abysmal efforts to verify anything absolutely prove he has.
There's a goofy throw-shit-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks mentality amongst the under 40 crowd when it comes to sex crimes, fuck due process, fuck the presumption of innocence, they have "justice" to pursue... Cosby walked because things werent done correctly, remember that
Unfortunately, many people online seem to care more about feeling morally superior than they care about actual justice.
@@mercedesmaynard3194 unfortunate state of the internet rn
Matt Orchard has a great video titled “The Predators” detailing this exact phenomenon if anyone is interested.
Yeah, well... OJ Simpson walked even though things were done correctly in our justice system, but he managed to get public perception behind him, plus the best and fiercest lawyers, and the jurors were swayed. He got away with it right up until his death. So even our justice system gets it wrong sometimes, but yeah, you're right: the standards of our good old "internet vigilantes" are way, WAY lower.
nobody is saying Mr Beast is killing people
the critisism is, he is selling junk food under the guise of "its healthier" when it aint, its the tactics alot of big corporations use
we call the companies that advertise junk food and drugs healthy as "greedy" but when Mr Beast does it, its fine?
Your really going to say PRIME the drink that supposedly contains 200 milligrams of caffeine is healthier the carpi-sun? Both are garbage for your body
you cant claim you care about health while at the same time trying to sell chocolate to kids, putting PRIME into lunchable knock offs made for kids and other products
again, nobody is saying Mr Beast is killing people, its just greedy/shady business practices, conducted by a man who clearly does not care about children's safety
now yes "don't like it don't buy is" is a point you can make, dosent mean its free from criticism, if this is the case then no corporations can be criticized cause you don't have to buy their products, its a stupid argument to make
"nobody is saying Mr Beast is killing people"
28:36
There's a lawsuit regarding mr beast not caring the contestants' health.
Buddy they r just selling chocolate... Clam down...
@@tanvirsourav83 ignorant on levels through the roof
@@bookle5829 yeah with him not having proper medicare during beast games
and he is selling unhealthy chocolate and lunchly with false advertisement, he doesnt care but also doesnt unalive
Mrbeast never claimed his products are healthy, he claimed they are health(ier) than the competitor, if a choccolate bar 1 has 49 grams of surgar and choccolate bar 2 has 50 grams of sugar, if i say choccolate bar 1 is healthier then choccolate bar 2 i'm correct even if the difference is so small it's practically irrelevant
"People who don't eat chocolate going to the candy aisle to get feastables... I'm bringing new customers to the aisle"
"That's an incredible business achievement"
Next time I see a dude selling 'stuff' on the corner I'll be sure to praise him over his business achievements🤣
Why are you comparing candy to hard drugs
@@WillyMacShow Why do you refuse to go after destiny for his comments on someone being murdered.
@willymacshow ..... because you woke me up with a notification for your vid after a night of drinking Willy😅
Just took business achievement and new customers and rolled with it.
Sometimes jokes land and sometimes they crash😅
To be fair addicts to tend to turn to candy to fight addiction..... so maybe that's where my mind went.
The funniest thing to this day to me is seeing Jake act all cool and posting his banger two word tweets, only to then write a whole ass essay because now he has to explain why he didn’t address his menace of a brother.
Menace of a brother?
Willy, the reason lunchly is criticized is because it was selled as a healtier alternative than lunchables, something that isn't true is literslly the same thing but with less salt (replaced by other artificial and unhealthy flavours)
Really not a problem with dunking on pack of dogs but sometimes you sound like you glaze mr breast.
It's just a sheedy as marketing strategy... Who tf cares .. at the end it's on the parents if they wanna buy their kids a 4$ trash food or 2$ trash food...
@@tanvirsourav83no it’s not!! Can’t stand this brain dead argument where everyone wants to blame parents, actually no, blame the people actually releasing the product, stop acting like they’re innocent bystanders.
@@DankyKang96bro I walked past Lunchly’s in the supermarket the other day and chose not to buy it. Two things can be true at the same time. Lunchly can be really bad for you, and we also still have the ability to choose whether or not to buy it. Parents aren’t automatically robbed of telling their kids no. It may be hard if the kids throw a fit, but the choice is still there
@@DankyKang96nobody is acting like they are innocent bystanders. Companies marketing towards kids is absolutely nothing new, think of all the ads you saw on Nickelodeon. The only difference is that this is Mrbeast. I’m not defending marketing towards children, I believe it’s wrong, but the irony of reasoning is ridiculous. Parents are ABSOLUTELY responsible for what their children purchase, don’t even argue otherwise.
@@samman9738I’m genuinely curious then how you expect any change to happen? When can people start making an effort for change if every time they’ll get shut down because “other companies do the same thing”? Just because other companies do the same things it doesn’t make them right
Babe, wake up. That Willy Mac guy uploaded.
Hello from Russia
I find it crazy how Ludwig has been one of the only bigger RUclipsrs to actually cover the MrBeast situation. Even if they didn't want to talk or wait till everything's out I still find it crazy how they can't bring themselves to talk about it as apposed to the way they handled the Kris situation.
obviously worried for their careers.
when you say “they” are you talking about other youtubers? looks like ludwig covered both mr beast and ava kris tyson? i have not watch either video, tho.
I respect ludwig for literally being the only one in the beginning to push back against dogpack
For the love of god, "no random subs" is correct. Have you ever seen an overseas viewer? Someone who doesn't ever speak even eng, be e-mailed to get a chance on the show? Fled out of africa to america? For example, "Sub to get a chance to be part", NO, you want to play? You gotta do the same procedure people do in any other game shows. You apply, audition to get casted. Simple as that. Sub is probably one of the requirements but this isn't the same as getting a random note from mb production that you're invited to be on the show. Now you might say this is common sense, but these are children or foreigners overseas who don't know there's actually -0 chance you're ever gonna get an invitation and be fly out to america wtvr.
If mr beast just outright says you can audition for a casting call but you have to sub first and preferably you speak english? That's better transparency but NO, He says "sub to get a chance to be in a mb production". That's it. That's MISLEADING.
Would rather drink bug spray than that anti alcohol thing
Never did I think MrBeast would be seen as a villain in the span of only 2 months
did vro really leave out how contestants in atleast one production would pass out and have seizures due to being denied food and water 💀
476 AD was the fall of Rome, and 2024 will be remembered as the fall of predators
Wouldn’t the fall of Rome be considered the first fall of predators?
Wait no that was Sodom & Gomorrah… wait no it was the great flood… wait no it was when the meteor hit the dinosaurs!
If you think it’s only gonna take a year to take out predators you’re very optimistic, this year will hopefully be the first steps in changing the culture behind how prevalent it is
Uh oh, you said something negative about the messiah Dogpack. You're gonna evoke the glazers to completely ignore the video and call you a Mr.Beast shill.
Free mr beast he aint none done wrong
Lol, I'm guilty of saying he kinda sounds like a shill... For focusing on that bullshit. More than half of this is about dogpack
@@TheWit88 probably because a fuck-up like that one speaks to the fact he’s not taking this as seriously as he should, since it’s dealing with actual issues of criminality
Don’t play detective if you’re gonna fall back on not being one when you shoot your own credibility in the balls
Lol, I'm guilty of saying he kinda sounds like a mr.beast shill. Mostly because the majority of this is about bullshit. He mentions the bad shit but focuses on the dumb allegations. Which is almost as dumb as making the allegations. Dogpack made mistakes, and undoubtedly he will literally pay for them. But it definitely got the ball rolling....
Now mrbeast is like Indiana Jones, running from that ball, out of a trapped catacomb he willingly went into.
@@TheTarman lol, I dunno if my UI is screwed, I posted twice because one didn't show up... It seems like you are responding to the one I thought didn't show. Oops if I posted twice.
I agree he fucked up. But like I said in my repost, it definitely got the ball rolling.
I don't get why people get so much on Dogpack for the allegation. He used it correctly - he said it's alleged, never that it's 100% that guy who did it and was transparent about it, even mentioning that it might be the wrong person. Then he made a public tweet to make sure that people know that allegation wasn't proven true. No one else checked this, so he is the source "debunking" himself.
The real problem is that people treat allegation as gospel. Even if you have supporting evidence, you should still be careful about making claims publicly. If people weren't throwing the word allegedly left and right for things they actually know it's true, people wouldn't have their heads explode when the Warren alleged charges were for a different person.
He addressed it in the video. Alleged isn't a magical word that makes everything you decide to include okay, it's a way for you to not get sued for defamation.
Imagine if I tweeted that you killed someone, allegedly. Sure, I might not be culpable, but does that not make me a less trustworthy source?
Ty literally pitched ninja warrior, acted like it was never heard of before and then wanted 1.7 million dollars from his viewers.
Bro that guy proved he was that. Proved he pitched it. Has all source of evidence of him talking about how they loved and budgeted the topic. And then the vid came out 4 months later.
That is a lot of evidence to ignore cause he started a bum gofundme
My man beefing with the comments
I think the point here is it's not an original idea to begin with, and both Jimmy Beast and countless others have done similar things before that. So for this random guy to want millions for repeating an already known thing, is beyond ridiculous.
@@WillyMacShow An obstacle course isn't exactly original in the first place, he doesn't have a leg to stand on when he's trying to play the victim. His whiteboard "proof" directly says american ninja warrior. Iirc the obstacles he "came up with" are 1:1 ripped from ninja warrior as well; So if he's owed for his idea then by his logic he owes nintendo, and ninja warrior for their ideas. Rules for thee, not for me.
Now do they owe him some compensation for his time, sure, but since they asked for receipts to reimburse him, I think he was paid and he just doesn't want to admit it since he's already made a point of being greedy with the 1.7 mil gofundme.
Chris = He/Him
Kris = He/Him
Just running with false accusations is wild and the fact it doesn't destroy the content creator "career" is pretty damn infuriating.
The fact that u support predators is a bit wild too😂 ig we all got different moral values
I still don't like MrBreast due to his association with PDFiles but I'm also not liking DogPack very much after this video either
Yeah I say we dislike both. It’s crappy journalists or police work that can ruin a case for someone who’s totally guilty. DogPack needs to step aside and let people with more care handle this now
@@KATinBLACK He can't cuz a professional journalist would see his accusations and throw it into dumpster... His sources r DM screenshot, allegedly and I heard... Which mf is gonna help him with this...
Only that woman who gave up law science for YT video...
@@tanvirsourav83 no no, I don’t mean hand over *his* shaky “evidence” over to someone. I mean let what’s already happening occur: regular journalists covering the lawsuit, actually credible whistleblowers, and well the lawsuits themselves
Unrelated, but I respect the Faust profile image
willy has fallen off.
Idk why people watch him, just look at his titles bro, and people called Leafy's titles cancer back in the day😂😂
another dogpack expose video has been drop. fallen off how?
The Phoenix Wright music is a great touch Willy, don't know if that was you or your editors who put that in but it works perfectly for these types of exposes
One man band baby
OBJECTION!
I normally like your videos but feel this one is a little slimy. You first bash DogPacks reporting for not confirming something he specifically said in the video he could not confirm then go out to just repeat everything he's already reported on. You literally just reported on everything he already had in his videos while also trying to make him look like a bad source/reporter.
He is a bad reporter. The James Warren aspect of his third video is about as idiotic as it can possibly get. Bu hey if he sprinkles the word alleged everywhere I guess that means he doesn't have to be held accountable.
Dogpack knew it was unconfirmed yet released the video anyway. Then he says this person should be fired. Based on... unconfirmed things. He deserves to be bashed for misleading reporting. He is openly admitting that he is reporting rumors and hearsay. There is no reason to do that unless you want to defame someone. Its basically gossiping disguised as reporting.
So just because he says allegadly he should make verifiably false statements public?
Are you insane?
It's sad learning Mr. Beast's content is mostly Kayfabe. The hammer I'm waiting for is how much of his philanthropy is bullshit
I'm pretty the philanthropy thing is real, considering it's pretty impossible to fake it since he teams up with corporations and charities whenever he makes a philanthropy video, so the likelihood of him faking those videos are pretty low. infact i'm pretty sure dogpack said the philanthropy thing is real, but it doesn't help the entire world that much.
It's already proven he does it but he makes way more from the video so it's not philanthropy to begin with.
@@ShouVertica youre so fucking dull lmao
Rich people don't see it as a crime, they see it as love is love and a way to make money. Just wait until people find out about the trafficking in third world countries. But hey, opra never got punished for it and they never released the epstein list.
Huh you don't like how your neightbour yells at 3 am, guess what, babies die in wars!
The raccoon? Really?
Yes he was wrong to publicize the allegations that were hazy, I would not do it or explicitly state several times that this is unconfirmed.
But your nitpicking just makes this video worse.
P.S. Prime, feastables and that new knockoff are all shit. Why defend them? What a waste of time.
46:51 I’d say it’s a valid criticism about his food because he pushes it as a healthy alternative then changes the formula to add more sugar.
willymacshow no matter how gay this may sound your voice is very enamouring
His name is Willy so it's very gay.
It only would’ve been gay if you would’ve said his voice is enthralling
Because that might mean you want him to enslave you or something gay
Thank you for calling out DogPack. He did point out a lot of accurate things about Mr. Beast, but most people ignore the really shady parts about him and if you criticize him then you’re defending Mr. Beast 🙄
I feel like this is a lose lose willy. People are either gonna hate it cause you weren't meaner to dogpack or hate it cause you weren't meaner to Beast. Either way you have to abandon your integrity.
I demand higher intelligence from the audience
@@WillyMacShow don't we all lmao. Keep doing your thing man the real ones know what you're about!
@@WillyMacShow this will get lost in the fdlow of comments im sure
But i disagreed with you vehemently on the Established Titles bs but stayed around because you are a genuine content creator and thats rare. If you believe in something youll defend it.
Regardless, dont let this "hate" get to you, these fans are fickle just keep making good content and keep ur chin up OG
I think you are on to something here... a thing that I thought through the last few weeks now. But usually only when I have my intelligent moments. lol When I am not so much, I rather want to take a side and spread empathy... until my intelligent moment comes back. But in general it is complicated. I could become philosophical but, nah, rather everybody think for themselves. 😌☺
Out of touch is the most generous way I can describe the contents of this video. Though to be honest, this seems like you're going out of your way to attack DogPack while downplaying ANY aspect of allegations that lack 100% evidence. You even said "we dont know what the allegations in the lawsuit are" uhh, yes we do, there are specific charges, including crimes involving sexual assault.... we KNOW what the allegations are, we don't know the DETAILS of them.
"How can Mr Beast make an accurate response if you don't make the proper accusations?"
Tell the truth..... simple..... but he won't do that... wonder why...
There's so many other things wrong with this video and your take on everything but i'm not going to waste any more time on this page... i gave you 45 minutes and was disappointed by your deluded perspective.
Allegations are NOT evidence.
It's not that simple to "simply tell the truth" says anything on his lawsuits is a risk already
"How dare you not take seriously unsubstantiated allegations seriously"
I am almost convinced people like you are either Bots, or children who desperately wanna watch someone burn.
@@DerBomber45 eh, I dunno about that... here's the thing, i didn't EVER take the James Warren allegations as something that was unequivocally true. DogPack made it clear in his original video about it that there wasn't proof of those allegations. That being said, there are plenty of allegations that have been proven true. There's also allegations that have been made in a court of law...
I never said we should believe all allegations, but attacking someone who was clear about something having NO PROOF is disingenuous. Was it a mistake to include that stuff? Maybe. I'm not fully convinced of that either.
Willie spent a large segment of the video explaining how DogPack was wrong about Lakoya, and at the end of the segment said "oh but even this Beast document supports that, so maybe he was right about that"... He dismissed how Lakoya was transferred from one company to another. Even with documents showing Warren was transferred around in a similar way, and admitting that DogPack spoke about Warren and Lakoya in similar ways, he still refuses to admit that bringing allegations into the open can allow people who havn't been paid off to feel comfortable coming forward...
Finally... Money can buy lots of things, including corrupt politicians/police/prosecutors/judges... People who can make charges disappear, or misdirect information, or withhold information... $700 million dollars a year is enough to give every man woman and child in America enough money to substantially change the rest of their lives... every single year.... That kind of money can change a lot of people's minds and make many people do things they would never do under normall circumstances...
Meat Canyon predicted the future.
Jimmy selling feastables, while his employees be getting them kidstables, it's like a whole ass ecosystem.
About the helping people giving prophetic limb part. well im a Cambodian and i would say that almost no one know who mrbeast is at all in my country only some of us but for the people you see in the vid no theu dont know who is is. Mrbeast vid recorded in Cambodia so whoever had a argument saying that these people know mrbeast well you are being brain wash
Willy clearly doesn't understand pattern recognition
The Beast Check cleared
46:17 okay that just looks like hes schizophrenic and reading too much into it lmao
Dogpack is exactly what you get when someone is so excited to bring someone down that they ruin their own credibility by just adding more and more stuff that makes no sense.
This is why you should A) leave these things to professionals. Give your story to someone who isnt mentally stunted. B) Talk to a lawyer before you start making wild claims and exposing company secrets.
This was a very well put together video, my main gripe is around the lunchables competetor since in my opinion they are marketing it as a healthy alternative to lunchables and that they really care about what kids are eating when it is just used to make money. If they were more open about it and not trying to decieve their audiences into getting their parents to buy them instead there would be no issue. same as how no one cares about prime or featables on their own as things kids take to school
Mr Beast personally hired a team of raccoons that continue to knock over my trash bins, destroying the environment by spreading garbage all over my lawn. Pretty sure one of them is the one trained actor raccoon he used in his videos, and one night I even heard one of them say “Karl owns you budster” and then he ate a Feastables while I chased him.
MR BEAST MUST BE STOPPED
Bro lost me at defending Lunchly, otherwise 10/10
“I’m not a journalist” does not absolve one’s obligation to report accurately.
Hes using the exact same reply JD Vance had when confronted with the cat eating claims. “Yeah I made up the story but look at all the attention immigration is getting!”
There’s no difference between these two in their practices.
Ty Ore is just, bizzare, asking for millions for his generic ahh whiteboard idea which they were already working on before he turned up. Cringe ahh. They should have paid him for his time though.
You were definitely wrong about the lunchly stuff.
No
Does everybody just miss Dogpack said "Allegedly" and CLEARLY said he wasn't sure if it was the same guy? Well, I guess running stories claiming he lied and slandered is much juicier so fuck the truth...
Did you watch the video with thumbs stuck in your ears or?
@@Keior55 Did YOU?
saying alledgedly is still slimey asf when you posture allegations like this no? alot of people came away with the misinformation being truthful when all he had to do was wait a while for that. RUclipsrs aren't responisble for their audience but when you make a allegation like this without verification i think theres blame that can be attributed.
Allegations can still be damaging since reputation gets affected before any sort of conviction. That’s why people were so up in arms against false SA allegations (see Slazo, Kwite, etc)
If you wanna point a finger at someone, you *have* to be sure that it’s the right person
Allegedly you murdered 6 children
never ask willymacshow about his nux taku connections
I hate that I respect Willy enough to watch a sponsor promo 🙄
I'm so early there aren't even any of those garbage "39 seconds ago no views, fell off" comments being posted yet
They’re the worst.
you're part of the problem, downvote and move on. Meta comments are the worst
@boss2329
39 seconds ago no views, fell off!
I kid I kid, but yeah those comments are in all seriousness really annoying. Another type of comment which is annoying are those fake giveaways in the comment section
fell....OFF!
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Cant forget when Dogpack argued That Surprised Witness wasn't who he referred to as the person doing the FOIA reqeusts, despite its in his vid like that, and She says she was. So Dogpack is lying to cover his errors as well
Blablabla, dogpack definitely made mistakes, and he will undoubtedly literally pay for them. But let's not glaze over the other more damning facts.
We all wait for a response, and the silence is creepy.
@@TheWit88 Jimmy said he'd wait for all the allegations to come out for him to respond to them. DogPack alluded to more allegations in his latest video so that's why Jimmy's holding off on responses
Everyone that worked for mr.beast needs to be prosecuted
for what?
@@moe5020 they all knew about the sa and cp
did willy just try and chalk the challenger explosion to "they didn't know" my guy, you made a damn near 30 minute segment of trashing dogpack on being unknown to the truth but you literally know jack shit about what actually happened leading up to it.
35:18 Good Mythical Morning does a similar main-in entry for their "Golden Tee" sweepstakes with harsh deadlines, but no one complains there. They do add the no purchase info on all promotions (EXCEPT on instagram...) But yeah, It's just common practice, no one doing a sweepstakes wants people to enter for free.
Also, nowhere in those terms does it say 10 cards.
I genuinely never thought I’d see the day Willy would make a video about MrBeast of all people
willy the dog pack critique is a little much. as in you over did it. so are you just pissed how many subs he gained?
The more I hear, the more I question the trajectory of the online community we all take part in. He's just gaining subs and not addressing anything important.. Mr Beast will continue to grow. This is how the online world works and its only going to get worse.
This video has Hasan levels of research, if you want the Mr beast clout, just say it you don't need a 50 min video for that
I like the part where you call out bad research with no evidence, you're commenst are the best, keep it up.
@@guanglaikangyi6054 At the bare minimum Willy is being deliberately dishonest about dogpack. The third video was always prefaced as being allegations and opinions, yet he doesnt point that out. He makes it seem like all three videos are allegations without evidence.
The whole video really seems like he is knob jobbing Mr. Beast.
@@fomori2 "This is just my opinion, but Mr. Beast wants to kill his audience. Also, there's some allegations in this statement."
Okay lmao.
Furthermore, have you missed the parts where he criticizes Mr. Beast? It's not a team sport.
thanks that someone called this slop out, i felt like i was loosing my mind, because it all was freaking ridiculous and people were taking it seriously.