Ask Augustin 37 - E String Whistles
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- E string whistles are an annoying problem, and don't have only one single cause. The condition of the instrument has a lot to do with the phenomenon of whistling. Is the E string old? Some brands are also more prone to whistling than others. Is there a lot of rosin residue on the string? Not enough rosin on the bow? Are you missing a lot of bow hair? Is the violin out of adjustment or in need of repair? These are all questions we have to ask when the E string is whistling a lot. Even humidity can play a role.
Whistles happen when the friction that the bow creates with the string is not sufficient to get it to ring properly - it instead rings at a high overtone. If the condition of bow and violin and string are good, then the cause is generally to be found in the bow change to the E string, which has to be smooth but firm enough to properly grip the string. If the angle of the bow isn't straight, that can cause whistling because it can make the contact point of the hair on the string less stable. If your violin is prone to whistling, playing more with full hair rather than with the bow angled to the side can make it easier to avoid whistles in some cases.
With so many factors contributing to whistling, I usually go through a quick "checklist" when my E string whistles and can generally avoid it from happening again. 
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I love that no matter how many times you try, you can't mess the chord enough to make it whistle.
Thank you for that!! I’ve had trouble with a whistling E string especially in Bach😅
Yes Especially Bach’s 1 sonata fuga it’s soooo annoying
Fuckin Andante from 2 sonata
Man me too Sonata 2 Andante 🤦🏼♀️
@@luxio6765 andante is nothing to chaconne.
@@Luguanyu307 No shit genius
With GUT strings, things are CLEAR: HUMIDITY increases drastically the « chance » to whistle. (« Falling » on the string also). I teach baroque violin at Paris Conservatory, meaning to be historically « pure », but when I play in Taiwan, I sometimes put « SOLUTIONS » E string by Kaplan, to survive the tropical humid climate: it works. Good luck all!
I hate that open string whistling E sound (always seem to happen on a "DOWN" bow?) especially in the middle of an intense passage run or chords. I try to minimize the likelihood of causing it by purposefully pulling slower and lighter on my bow or if possible... change it to an "UP" bow. Thank you very much Augustin on your tips and explanations on possible causes and solutions to it. Many of the Augustin fans seem to be quite versed at explaining the causes as well!! :-)
With all the years of playing I've never heard anyone address this issue. Thanks SO much!!!
Love how he said Mendelssohn as an example! I’ve been practicing the cadenza and keep getting whistling. Perfect timing. The way he played the cadenza just blew me away!!
I was able to play 15 e string whistles in a row
Thank you! I was just wondering about this while I was practicing last night. Helpful to have the checklist to go through. :)
Thank you so much Augustin. Explaining the causes helps me to understand where to look and try to solve the issues. Thank you again for all the tips on the series. Very helpful and really enjoy watching your channel.
Dropping by to wish you good wishes, the best of health, safety, and a very mellow day. Looking forward to your next musical performance; when I whistle, no one thinks it's a Strad. It's great you keep doing this for people. All the best to you, Maestro. Peace. BB.
Thank you so much! That was driving me crazy and I had the problem for a few months and couldn’t figure it out! I thought it was my left hand rubbing the e string but after slowing down I realized that wasn’t it. This video cured it! I did not think to consider the bow!
The cause of the E string whistle sound is , when you start a chords from other strings, the open e string vibrates invisiblely, and when you touch lightly with bow the vibrating e string, it creates whistle.
To prevent the whistle you can put a finger on e string to vibrate less. Or play the chords with less force. Another words touch the e string with bow after subsiding e string vibration. It takes skill of course.
By that logic - if i where to have the finger on the e string be very soft almost flagolet like on the string before the bow comes to the e string and only once it plays it's note i press the finger down to it's normal strength i should reduce the whistling chances since i dampend the vibration before, right?
Thank you so much! I was having a problem with a whistling e string while playing some chords in a piece.
Finally a video about that issue! I've been wondering for a loooong time how I could resolve this, it's so annoying >_<
Thanks Augustin!
La cuerda mi es un gran misterio...cuando menos lo esperas te sorprende con un silbido... Gracias por su ayuda! 💜🎶🎵💜🎻😊
Makes sense all you said. Thank you very much !
Good explanation, @Augustin Hadelich. To increase the probability of whistling on demand, approach the E string with the bow coming down more vertically (bow landing from above the string) than horizontally and while in motion. Also, moving from the A to the E with the bow angled and not very perpendicular to the E string can also increase the probability of whistling. Of course, knowing this, one can do the opposite to reduce the likelihood of whistling.
Yes, down bow is more risky. On up bow you less often fall vertically. Humidity has double impact: one on the string, just like luthiers cannot glue anything, your bow slips on the string, BUT ALSO, when humid, the belly and back of the violin being kept in the frame of the ribs, the instrument becomes slightly swollen, the sound post gets too loose. You have to bring the sound post where it will be tight again, slightly nearer the ribs. The Paganini 11th on your vidéo is as fluid as silk. Amazing, congratulations!
Very good this is. I have on many occasions unintentionally gotten my e string to whistle - usually when playing a chord. However, I do not recall EVER getting my e string to whistle on an up bow - it has always happened on a down bow.
OMG THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thx a lot, Augustin, that's actually a problem I face from t2t, especially by playing chords with an open E string. I never did analyze the reasons for the whistling E string, though!
Oh yes! That whistling E string! Probably because of a not straight bow and/or a rosen issue. Thank you for talking about this.
Hi Augustin! Please do one on any system you might have for maintaining old repertoire while learning new repertoire and preparing concert pieces at the same. I have always struggled with building a large repertoire because it’s so easy to neglect old pieces I don’t need to play soon. Thank you so much for this series it has been incredibly insightful.
I'd love you to do another one on musicality, where you take a look at the music and explain your thought process in making phrasing choices
I had been using dominant for many years and I just changed to peter infeld but my e string kept whistling that Idk how to deal with. And this video came out! Thanks a lot!
I saw you perform in Aspen the ysaye 6th Sonata. It was amazing
Thank you 🙏 ☺️
imma watch all these, very good
Recommend Spirocore E string. Never once whistled for me. I have tried them on multiple violins as well, not just one.
Great videos as always!!
Dear Augustin, could you please make a video on left hand pizz. How to project in pieces like Bazzini Dance of Goblins (last page) or even 24th caprice especially when the pinky is short.
Thank you!
Thank you!!
thanks for sharing, this happens to me also and i never know why XD. i will keep an eye for your tips. 👍👍
so helpful!
the most reliable way I've found to induce the e-string whistle is to do a smooth, tenuto down-bow slur from a fingered C or C# on the A string into the open e string, and 7 times out of 10 it whistles so reliably that i can sustain the whistle to the end of my bow, with the right pressure and speed and contact point. (if for whatever reason one WANTS to listen to their whistle...)
At least on my questionably maintained violin, I found that hitting the e-string quite far from the bridge from above the string with high bowspeed and little pressure is a reliable way to produce a whistle. A very useful technique as you can probably guess...
make a tutorial!
@@jhwarby2012 lol, that would be useful, right?
@@davidekdal7190 definitely useful
Ive experienced this on a certain bow direction. Not often. Being that it doesn't happen everytime...indicates a conditional factor. D adario strings have a device that lengthens the e string at the tail piece...its got something to do with the vibrational movement ( circular motion Maybe, vs oscillation?)
How often do you change your strings and bow hair? What indicators do you start looking for yourself, specifically, to know when it’s time to change, Augustin?
Whatever i do when i play 3rd chord of bach chaconne e is whisteling... I did even try pressing with my thumb. But i think hard material causes this. Golden-e never whistle.
Usually when i play close to the bridge the e string whistles. Is this also the case for anyone else out there?
So basically I summarized for myself in 2 points:
1) don't keep your instrument like dogshit
2) git gud
Hope this helps anyone else as well :D
LMAO
Die E-Saite "No.1" von Pirastro quietscht nicht, egal wie man sie anspielt...ich liebe Ihre Sendungen, vielen Dank dafür
Does the bridge have anything to do with it?
Hey Augustin, I was wondering what kind of strings do you recommend. I know it varies by a few things, but generally speaking which brand is your go to?
I have never had this problem....
I've know read/watched a couple articles/videos on this topic. And everytime it is said that it's hard to reliably reproduce the whistle. But surely, if you actually knew an action to avoid the whistle, it would be very easy to reproduce the whistle: Don't take that action, or go the opposite direction.
I also don't really believe that a problem like this is caused by a multitude of different factors. It just sounds like an excuse for not knowing exactly what the cause is.
it actually does have many possible causes, from the instrument, bow hair to what the player does. it’s hard to reproduce because everything is set up trying to avoid the issue- but it can happen inadvertently. if it was easy to avoid or if there was a simple explanation, there would be violinists whose e string never whistles. Instead, the closest we can get to it is almost never whistling!
Hey, your audio is way too quiet, please raise it.
I think this is so he can use the same microphone for recording voice and violin
Usually, the whistle is produced when you are touching slightly the e string with your meat from the 1st finger on the right side of the violin neck or the fingers that are playing on the a string so you actually stop the e string from vibrating. Sometimes the e string dug too deep in the nut and when you try playing in forte the vibration of the string is stopped by the fingerboard. It can be also the humidity in the air or a greasy bow hair or not enough rosin. Also, maybe you didn't catch e string good with your right hand (Zuckerman is explaining this very good always). Or maybe you have a poorly instrument. I hope this helps somebody!
great points -- yes, those are definitely all factors that can cause whistles.