RC Hydroplane Boat Shop Update | New Boats, Old Boats, New Ideas!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- New Radio Control Hydroplane Projects, along with some crazy modifications to the old fleet and even an update on The World's Greatest Shop Dog... Join the fun!
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I think that you are on the right track in your proposed "bullet nose" shape modification to the center section of this hydroplane. It should 1) improve the aerodynamics of the boat, 2) will allow you to add some structural support to a stressed area, 3) will slightly lower the center of gravity of the hull, 4) allow you put some components (if any) lower in the boat and slightly forward of the boat ballance point , slightly lowering the overall center of gravity of the boat/system, 5) it should reduce the resistance/pounding of rough water on the bottom of the boat. . . . [I believe that you've already pointed many of those things out in your video]. As you have also noted - the shallow sponson depth combined with the deep belly pan could still cause problems. If it were me, I'd seriously consider losing the belly pan and raise the motor mount, and hope that the "turn fin/tether-ball effect" will allow you to keep your cornering speed up. [Yes - raising the motor mount/driveline would be a ton of work!]. Your method of building hydroplanes with G-10 sponson bottoms that can be popped off and modified (combined with the usual adjustable strut) should allow you to tweak the hull angle of attack and ride height to get it to handle the way you want.
That's it! Finally, someone who gets it! These are exactly the same things I've been thinking, and then some. Thanks D S!
Go Jackson Brown ❤️🐶 looking forward to seeing your build.
Thanx for the gratuitous Jaxson update! I think that I’ll pick up a kit from Mike to start right after I finish the hull that you sent me plans for.
You're welcome. I'm so happy he's still around to make an appearance once in a while
Glad to see you back.
Glad to be seen!
So glad to hear about Jackson!
Thanks, me too!
Good morning Scott if any here I am in the process of building my second ml Boat Works boat another Outrigger the 24-in I like the smaller boats nice to see you putting up videos again I will follow diligently
Awesome! Keep going!
M5 Hydroplanes, Scott Meyers, I done my Zippkits SLR Missile Unboxing on channel. The boat build has begun. I gave you a shout out in video. You should have a watch when you can. Hope Jaxson Brown is doing good. Look forward to seeing him in boat shop with ya soon. As always sir take care and stay safe.
Thanks I'll check it out!
Boy Jaxon lost some weight! But glad he's doing so much better!
Yup, but he's a trooper!
Building the kneeler hydro, although I ran real alky hydro's so I'm probably gonna cut it down to a laydown. We laid down in our's... lol
Laydowns sure look cooler, but though I've never raced them it seems like you sacrifice the benefits of body english and visibility going that route.
I am just 4 mins in and you have answered my wish list on having this video with steps by steps. God bless you and your family this new year.
BINGO!
That raised forward section on the underside of the hull is going to disturb the laminar airflow adhesion in that area considerably so you will get reduced lift..and thus increased water contact and drag slowing this boat down more..That hulls aerofoil contour is basically Clark Y with the almost flat bottom.
Oh the flat bottom is rocketship fast, but gets angry when it beats against the surface. Today's motors and props are so fast that there really is no need for lift anymore. The fastest boats running here actually appear to have downforce, slapping back down onto the water after lifting up, and never slowing down. It's really something to see. A wiser guy would copy what those guys are doing, as it's pretty obvious when you look at them, but where's the thrill in mirroring someone else's work?
Cool, looking forward to the fun you're about to have, and glad to see Jackson Brown is better. He appears to be a lot more active.
Thanks Ron!
I always watch your videos lots of great tips in building your builds are amazing. I am definitely interested in your engines
Just worked out a supply agreement with Rattlesnake RC - Merlin engines coming to their website soon! www.allrc1.com
Looking forward to the build and the rebuild.
Me too!
I used lacquer paint on my cracker box it’s been on there for over 30 years no cracks
Happy to hear that Jackson is doing well looking forward to both of the builds.
Thanks Norman
great video! cant wait to see how it all works out
It's good to see new build videos!!! As soon as I figure out what kit you are building I'm going to order one to build along with you!
Order it up, let's go!
hey buddy ,the bullet travels straight because its spinning.... just saying...love your channel
Yes, yes, I know, but you miss the point. Or perhaps it just wasn't a good example. How about submarines... Do they spin too? 🤣
Good stuff Scotty!! I like to use the Klasskote epoxy paints as a base coat for durability and it sticks to anything. The automotive primers and colors don't really adhere to wood that well. Then I use the automotive paints and clear without flex additives over the white Klasskote base with excellent results.
Come to think of it, I used to use an epoxy primer, but I went away from it and I don't remember why. Time to go back. Thanks Whytey!
Please do another boat build. I would enjoy
Here's the new, in-progress playlist. Build one with me! ruclips.net/p/PLN1BConcF3a37Y8ON6uGHfzaKUy12JiOZ
Your write about the curve on the bottom of boat but the water makes drag. dimple little smaller than a dime, shallow. in rowes from the back of the backmoter plate to the back of the hull like a golf ball it will break the drag letting it slip through the water better that's how half ball gets it's distance right. it works really well
Mmmmm, disagree. Yes on plane, but when the hull is in the water I don't think we want a bunch of dimples pushing the water around. Keep watching... I'm brainstorming a way to prove my theory to y'all!
You are creating a symetrical airfoil by having a curved forward botom section. Then if you change the angle of attack to positive, you will generate lift. If the AOA goes negative, you'll burry the nose. Look at the rear wings on the unlimiteds, if they go positive AOA, they generate lift which is supposed to drive the nose down kill the lift and settle the boat back to the water. Otherwise they are negative or neutral (always a talking point with Ron Jones Sr.) and don't have any effect on the boat ride. I worked on The Lancer J89 that was a Ron Jones Sr. boat and that was always a talking point.
That's my intention, a neutral center. And don't tell anyone, but I've already done it before and it was awesome!
Your print looks awesome. I'm sure it takes a lot of time just to make the plans & then print it out. I think you should have some made in case someone wants one. Is this motor for scale nitro or electric.
I've scaled the parts in 1/10, 1/8, and gas scale (1/6.67). There's already a guy making his version of the Merlin available at Rattlesnake RC, so for now I'm just gonna sit tight on it
Scott, your airfoil shape boat seems like it might work well. Charlies girl has a bit of a radius up front. I think the rc boats would need to be built exactly like the real ones IF they were moving at the scale speed.
Agreed!
Looks like a scale hydro maybe 60 size or gasser
Yup yup
Looks like my RSX380 Outrigger kit box.
So close!
Symmetrical wing
He's back ladies and gentlemen!!!
But was he ever really gone?
@M5PerfHydros just on hiatus? Ready for a shop update.... I have been bailing water all day, can't wait to get back to it on the 2023 hull
Great to have you back man, and it's so good to see that Jackson is OK! I like your thinking on the gentle radius of the front section of the floor. Just a couple of thoughts: Perhaps a slight vee-shape, like on a regular boat, on the front of the floor up to where the engine sticks out, might help getting the hydro up on plane? The idea being, that a slight vee-shape upfront may help to alleviate the "suction" effect at lower speeds. A vee-shape will provide slightly more room for air to travel along the inside edges of the sponsons and "unstick" the floor. That's my line of thinking anyway. I don't really know if it will be an improvement, but seeing as you're willing to experiment on this boat... 😊
It's not unthinkable, that you may even have too much air rushing under the boat, resulting in more lift than you'd want, or need. In such a scenario, an adjustable wing (the one way upfront) might be handy. Maybe my comments don't make sense, but we're still friends, right? 😉
Makes sense, and I've had the v-bottom idea in my head for a long time. Unfortunately I don't think it would be allowed since we're supposed to maintain the same basic configuration as the real boat under the rules. At one point in time we began building a full-size 2.5 hydro and it had a v-bottom, but like many such projects it was never completed
@@M5PerfHydros Thanks for your reply Scott.
I wish my timing was better. I'm building a different ML Boatworks kit and have a couple questions. I'm sure Mike is a nice guy, but I can't seem to get a reply from him unless there's money changing hands. Thanks for another great video!
I'm sorry to hear that. That'll be five dollars please. 🤣🤣
@@M5PerfHydros 😂😂😂 That was totally worth 5 bucks! The check's in the mail!
Hey Scott, where do you buy your bulk plywood? What do you buy? Thanks!
I get Finnish ply from Aircraft Spruce, using 1.5mm for framing and all bottom surfaces, and 1mm thickness for top decks (roughly 1/16" and 1/32"). I also keep domestic sizes on hand from Balsa USA, where I get 1/8" and 1/4" lite ply.
Balsa USA is switching to a new website at this very moment so it's best to wait a day or two until they get it working correctly.
www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/finnishbirch.php
www.balsausa.com
@@M5PerfHydros Thanks Scott! Really glad you're making videos again--I always learn something. Although I think I'm falling behind. I might have to do some binge watching this weekend.
Great to see new material, looks like a round nose to me. Your videos inspired me to build a ml bodywork 1/6 scale atlas van lines. Can't wait for the new videos
Nope, not round. There's almost nobody running those here anymore unfortunately. Otherwise I might like to have a crack at it
But I learned stuff from you today.
Why not flatten out the top side to kill the lift, then you wouldn't have to worry as much about making suction on the bottom? Also, as a quick test of the no lift theory, you could use some stall strips on the top surface to knock the lift way down as a test without having to cut the boat apart.
Oooh I have a lot of thoughts on that. I'll try to talk about that idea and more within one of the videos soon
@@M5PerfHydros Awesome. Look forward to hearing it.
Stunt planes like the SBach, Extra 300 etc. have fully symmetrical cambered airfoils. Flat bottom wings are more stable. This is why high wing Cessnas are better for training pilots. Hey wait a minute, my new Black Pearl P Sport has an airfoil symmetrical just like you are wanting...thats odd. This should make it more responsive. Less stable and on the edge if its anything like rc airplanes.
Interesting. We'll see!
👍👍👍 !!!!!
I’ve always wanted to build a hydro. I have too many rc cars
What's stopping you?
I hope you make some dummy engines for sale. I'm looking for one for my Dumas U76
Who you calling a dummy?!
Doesn't The EDGE #8303 have the same bottom configuration as the one you are trying to accomplish? I believe the break was farther back toward the strut. I had an electric built by Mark Beatty. It would dive in at the start then pop up. I would punch it to get on plane. I could never figure it out. Can't wait to see how you do this. I may build another one. Love your videos. Also build the Rolls!!! I run 1/10 and 1/6 scale in ERCU. Can your engines be made in those sizes?
Ah ha! You have no idea how close you are! I have my very own Edge story that I'll share in one of the next videos. Yes I can make the Rolls in other scales. We'll talk about that later too
Do you know of a boat builder named Mark Brown from Tennessee?
I do not
I'm just wondering if that will cause alot more drag
Keep watching, the answers are coming!
It’s another Eliminator.
Well you could have at least added a couple exclamation points...
It's another Eliminator!! Better, faster, more awesomely awesome!!
@@M5PerfHydros I recognized it immediately because I'm building one. Better, faster and more awesomely awesome.🤣🤣
@@M5PerfHydros All kidding aside I'm building a Gas Scale. It's more like the version you're going to build (the bottom change). I was in a rush to make the Nationals and made a couple miscalculations making the plug for the tub. I haven't got back to it since. it's going to have a carbon fiber center section with wood sponsons.
I like it. You should shoot some video
What kit are you building?
Wanna build it?? Be careful what you wish for, it's a tricky boat to build and drive. I'm building a new Eliminator, but with many changes from the last one. I'm using the 8721 as the base for the build. mlboatworksrc.com /shop/ols/products/1-slash-8th -scale-newton-150-slash-mhr-8710-extreme-kit
I’m crazy enough, I’m in!
Freak!
I forgive you !
You're a pal!