Glad to help Joe. A running clock is a simple desire in this life that I have found gives great joy. Even a clock not running, sometimes I just look at them before I fall asleep and think about where they have been. :)
I tried to not write you a book for a comment, lol. You did a great job on the whole clock. Yes, I would have put some oil on the shaft of the motor. Oiling late must be because of the small gear ends. It is amazing how we look at the front of the clock and don't even see the hands, lol. I am happy with the finish. When I am not happy is when it is cracked, rough and not looking good along with old. It's hard not to show everything, because the one person may only watch just this one video and not really follow the channel. Ok, I am done with my Short Story Book. God Bless.
Thanks for the nice comment, Mike. It's amazing how much a clock not working is just due to the old oil turning into thick goop. It's also amazing how many mistakes can be edited out of a video! lol Take care!
I found your video very interesting. I have 3 cuckoo clocks, 3 grandfather clocks, 1 seth thomas electric mantal clock that does not work. You just don't want to be on the phone at the top of the hour in my house. 😊 I bought the seth thomas in a lot sale at an auction. I was anticipating taking it apart and trying to fix it myself but after seeing your video best I travel the 70 miles to someone that has experience. 😊
Hi GoldenGal! I am working on little clocks before I work up to bigger ones like the Seth Thomas electric mantel clock. I have some of those that need fixing as well. What they charge to fix professionally, I can't afford, which is why I learn myself. Hopefully I will have better videos in the future to help others with. I do hope you will find an honest repair person! 😸
Hi I watched this and am going to watch again BUT am pretty sure this way beyond me! I have a great looking Art Deco looking Sessions clock that just stopped working. My husband passed away 5 months ago and he was Mr. Fix It. He would have been able to take it apart and maybe watch your video too. I can’t bear to get rid of it and not sure who actually fixes vintage electric clocks. I loved watching your video even though it made me sad because your attention to destabilize and obvious appreciation of vintage items reminds me so much of him, and now that he’s gone so many electrical and technical things are having issues! The apartment must miss him as much as I do. I have all his fabulous tools and thought if I watched the video I might attempt a rescue. Best, Lori
Thank you for your nice comment, Lori. My sincere condolences on the loss of your dear husband. These clocks are still plentiful and you could buy one just to practice on. That way you wouldn't ruin your nice one. Even if your clock doesn't run I'm sure an Art Deco one is still nice to look at up on the shelf, running or not. There is another channel called Mark the Clock Guy, who works on electric clocks and think he did some Session clocks as well. It might help seeing from another perspective how to do it. He's listed on my Channels page. There are also many RUclips videos showing how to use basic tools and make repairs. I think one is See Jane Drill. She shows women and all how to do things. You might have a knack for repair once you get started. Having a clock repaired professionally usually costs way more than the clock is worth but that is a choice you have to decide on. Whatever you decide I wish the best for you. -Ab
Most old clocks i get look like someone dipped them in a tub of dirt attracting oil. And it does just that. Attracts dirt and wear increasing grit. Then it gums up. I have to disassemble and clean then relube properly. Watch it come back to life. Sometimes it also needs rebushing. Did not know the fiber gears can not get wet. Thats good to know. Thanks.
@@time4clocks yep. If you can bush a clock youre good to go most of the time. I just got one that the main wheel teeth were shot, but luckily found a used one is good shape. This isnt always the case, but you can sometimes also find used movements to use for parts for cheap.
I like the way you handled that extra washer on the rotating disc, turned out redundant. All in all, it was a an informative video. I hope your parents are doing better now, I prayed for them and you during a Ramadan dawn prayer. Good day Ab and wish you all the best.
Thank you, Saleh! My mother had some problems classed as heart failure, she is home today from hospital, and I have some assistance in the home now as well. I am thankful for everything including your prayers and best wishes. May you be rewarded!!
Hello Ab, great video. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with such complicated repairs, but I admire your skill. I wish you all the best and stay healthy! Greetings Werner!
Good video. Thanks. I know this is an oldish video, but you wouldn't happen to know a source for those motors? I have a vintage United wall clock with same motor and the windings are open. Doesn't run and no ohms measured across the wires.
The best source is shopgoodwill or ebay auctions, buying another used clock and stealing the motor out of it. I did see a place once that sold refurbished motors for $90 but it's cheaper to just look for another used one. Sometimes you will see ebay auctions selling a "lot" of electric clock motors and many times there are sessions motors included. 😸
The case finish would have benefited with a rub down of Old English Scratch Cover and a dash of powdered pumice. As always, great video with a lot of tutorial.
Appreciate the tip, Zeke. I have never used powdered pumice before, but I do have some laying about somewhere. I'm very shy about trying new products but you are encouraging me to have a go at it. Thank you, sir!
Enjoyed the video. One should inspect the power wires where they enter the rotor body because that is where they tend to disintegrate and short out to the case. Ask me how I know. Also not sure why wire nuts are such a necessity given none on the originals. I believe they used crimped connectors.that take up less space in the case.
Did you have one that gave you a shock? That's a good point to check where they enter the rotor. Different clock makers had their own connection methods but the Sessions one does seem to use wire nuts. I think the earliest ones were made of Bakelite. Sessions had several motors that could be replaced by just giving a turn for removal so they probably opted for wire nuts to make the removal and installation easier. Just a guess though. Appreciate your comment and watching!
I looked in my book on Sessions Clocks and the illustration for removing the rotor clearly showed wire nuts and then on the next page they had listed 3 types of wire nuts. Two were a crimp type nut and one was a screw on nut. So, you were correct about them using crimped connectors. I thought all wire nuts were screw on, but I learned something. Thank you Mr. George!
I'm a slow beard grower, dear Fintan. lol When I retire, I might grow one again. I work in a department now where I inspect dangerous goods shipments and if there is a spill I have may have to wear a respirator during clean up, hence no beard now. I liked having a beard, but when traumatic things happen in my life I like to shave everything off, even my head, to symbolize new beginnings. Hope that makes sense. My beard was very sparse also. If I had a nice one like yours I might like to have one again!
I have an old sunbeam wall clock that I’d like to get working again, I grabbed the cord while trying to rehang the clock and pulled the coil wires and besides tripping the circuit breaker the coil wires are no longer attached to the AC line, where can I get another coil, for a c006 wall clock, the wires are microscopic and the coil is all dried up being 70 years old, I could always convert itb to battery run buying a cheap quiet movement. But I really like the AC clock , a flag would let me know if there’s a power interruption.
Some coils can be unwrapped to expose a new lead wire, and they are microscopic, but the only other option I know is to locate a similar clock for parts. I hope you will be successful in repairing your clock. I saw one on ebay for $200 in working order. Replacing the works of a clock with a quartz one is always an option but it drives the resale price down to almost nothing. Whatever route you go I wish you the vest!
@@time4clocks i saw the clock, not going to buy another one, i hoping for a parts house like merritts that might have something i could buy i've had this clock since 1977 when a store was going out of business the owner gave it to me. any recommendation on how to carefully pull wire from both ends
@@tonymanzo3766 I'm no expert but my book on Hammond Clocks talks about removing the coil, cutting very finely the wax paper brown housing until the leads are exposed and then solder new connections and rewrap the housing. I've never done this so it only theory and your clocks coil might be totally different. If you have a friend that works on old radios they might be able to help.
I recently bought a late 50s sessions chef kitchen clock , bad motor, and I can't find that style movent motor anywhere.... Looks like the one you are working on in this video
Hi freedom. Sessions made the chef wall clock in 1939 and 1952. If the motor is shot then all you need is to find a Sessions clock from the same period and do a swap. Sometimes the motors are good but just gummed up and won't turn. If cleaning doesn't help then you probably need to find another one. Some of the motors look similar but are different sizes and somtimes you won't know what motor a model has till you open it up. Sometimes a "lot" of used Sessions motors shows up on ebay. Some listings just say "Old electric clock motors" so you really have to pay attention to what they're selling. Hope you will be able to get your clock running.
@@time4clocks well I bought it as is not working I gave it a try just to see and it didn't go well , big spark from the motor.. I looked everywhere found all kinds of motors and movements but absolutely nothing for sessions. And as you said just about the only option is to find a similar sessions parts clock, hope the motor and movement are good and go from there. I just rather not dismantle a working good clock tho, rather it be one with a lot of cosmetic damage. Anyway love your channel , thanks for the advice, I've learned a lot from you, and I greatly appreciate it..
It is my understanding that power generators in the UK and Europe supply electricity at 50 Hz and in the USA the power grid produces electricity at 60 Hz. Since American clocks are made to operate at 60 Hz, even though you are stepping the voltage down to 110v with your transformer, it is still using your power companies' frequency of 50 Hz and so the clock will run 10 minutes slower every hour. My understanding of the subject is limited but that is my first guess. Second, I would suggest the clock gears be cleaned and new oil applied. Hope that helps.
Well done ! No telling how many electrics I’ve passed on not challenging myself to do this. Thanks for posting…,
Thanks Jimmie! I thought I'd try the ones that don't have any alarm feature to get my feet wet with electrics. 🤣🤣
I acquired two session electric movements of this type. These videos are a great reference. Thank you.
Glad to help Joe. A running clock is a simple desire in this life that I have found gives great joy. Even a clock not running, sometimes I just look at them before I fall asleep and think about where they have been. :)
well said and soooo true!@@time4clocks
@@pepperdog3761 Thanks Pepper! 😁
Great video !!!!!!!!!!!!
@@rleegabe Thank you! 😸
I tried to not write you a book for a comment, lol. You did a great job on the whole clock. Yes, I would have put some oil on the shaft of the motor. Oiling late must be because of the small gear ends. It is amazing how we look at the front of the clock and don't even see the hands, lol. I am happy with the finish. When I am not happy is when it is cracked, rough and not looking good along with old. It's hard not to show everything, because the one person may only watch just this one video and not really follow the channel. Ok, I am done with my Short Story Book. God Bless.
Thanks for the nice comment, Mike. It's amazing how much a clock not working is just due to the old oil turning into thick goop. It's also amazing how many mistakes can be edited out of a video! lol Take care!
I found your video very interesting. I have 3 cuckoo clocks, 3 grandfather clocks, 1 seth thomas electric mantal clock that does not work. You just don't want to be on the phone at the top of the hour in my house. 😊 I bought the seth thomas in a lot sale at an auction. I was anticipating taking it apart and trying to fix it myself but after seeing your video best I travel the 70 miles to someone that has experience. 😊
Hi GoldenGal! I am working on little clocks before I work up to bigger ones like the Seth Thomas electric mantel clock. I have some of those that need fixing as well. What they charge to fix professionally, I can't afford, which is why I learn myself. Hopefully I will have better videos in the future to help others with. I do hope you will find an honest repair person! 😸
Hi I watched this and am going to watch again BUT am pretty sure this way beyond me! I have a great looking Art Deco looking Sessions clock that just stopped working. My husband passed away 5 months ago and he was Mr. Fix It. He would have been able to take it apart and maybe watch your video too. I can’t bear to get rid of it and not sure who actually fixes vintage electric clocks. I loved watching your video even though it made me sad because your attention to destabilize and obvious appreciation of vintage items reminds me so much of him, and now that he’s gone so many electrical and technical things are having issues! The apartment must miss him as much as I do. I have all his fabulous tools and thought if I watched the video I might attempt a rescue. Best, Lori
Thank you for your nice comment, Lori. My sincere condolences on the loss of your dear husband. These clocks are still plentiful and you could buy one just to practice on. That way you wouldn't ruin your nice one. Even if your clock doesn't run I'm sure an Art Deco one is still nice to look at up on the shelf, running or not. There is another channel called Mark the Clock Guy, who works on electric clocks and think he did some Session clocks as well. It might help seeing from another perspective how to do it. He's listed on my Channels page. There are also many RUclips videos showing how to use basic tools and make repairs. I think one is See Jane Drill. She shows women and all how to do things. You might have a knack for repair once you get started. Having a clock repaired professionally usually costs way more than the clock is worth but that is a choice you have to decide on. Whatever you decide I wish the best for you. -Ab
Most old clocks i get look like someone dipped them in a tub of dirt attracting oil. And it does just that. Attracts dirt and wear increasing grit. Then it gums up. I have to disassemble and clean then relube properly. Watch it come back to life. Sometimes it also needs rebushing.
Did not know the fiber gears can not get wet. Thats good to know. Thanks.
I hear ya, kwacz. 😁I always keep in mind that the worse off they are, the cheaper they are to buy. Usually. 😁
@@time4clocks yep. If you can bush a clock youre good to go most of the time. I just got one that the main wheel teeth were shot, but luckily found a used one is good shape. This isnt always the case, but you can sometimes also find used movements to use for parts for cheap.
I like the way you handled that extra washer on the rotating disc, turned out redundant. All in all, it was a an informative video.
I hope your parents are doing better now, I prayed for them and you during a Ramadan dawn prayer.
Good day Ab and wish you all the best.
Thank you, Saleh! My mother had some problems classed as heart failure, she is home today from hospital, and I have some assistance in the home now as well. I am thankful for everything including your prayers and best wishes. May you be rewarded!!
@@time4clocks i have a shemale clock that pops an erection at 12 o'clock but the erection is long going down....
Excllent video, nice and slow so we can follow your thinking!
Appreciate that Kent! 😁😁
Verry good video. Thank You.
Much Appreciated! 😁
Hello Ab, great video. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with such complicated repairs, but I admire your skill. I wish you all the best and stay healthy! Greetings Werner!
Thank you, friend Werner! Hope your shoulder has healed up well. Best wishes to you in beautiful Austria!
Good video. Thanks.
I know this is an oldish video, but you wouldn't happen to know a source for those motors?
I have a vintage United wall clock with same motor and the windings are open. Doesn't run and no ohms measured across the wires.
The best source is shopgoodwill or ebay auctions, buying another used clock and stealing the motor out of it. I did see a place once that sold refurbished motors for $90 but it's cheaper to just look for another used one. Sometimes you will see ebay auctions selling a "lot" of electric clock motors and many times there are sessions motors included. 😸
Thanks.
The case finish would have benefited with a rub down of Old English Scratch Cover and a dash of powdered pumice. As always, great video with a lot of tutorial.
Appreciate the tip, Zeke. I have never used powdered pumice before, but I do have some laying about somewhere. I'm very shy about trying new products but you are encouraging me to have a go at it. Thank you, sir!
Enjoyed the video. One should inspect the power wires where they enter the rotor body because that is where they tend to disintegrate and short out to the case. Ask me how I know. Also not sure why wire nuts are such a necessity given none on the originals. I believe they used crimped connectors.that take up less space in the case.
Did you have one that gave you a shock? That's a good point to check where they enter the rotor. Different clock makers had their own connection methods but the Sessions one does seem to use wire nuts. I think the earliest ones were made of Bakelite. Sessions had several motors that could be replaced by just giving a turn for removal so they probably opted for wire nuts to make the removal and installation easier. Just a guess though. Appreciate your comment and watching!
I looked in my book on Sessions Clocks and the illustration for removing the rotor clearly showed wire nuts and then on the next page they had listed 3 types of wire nuts. Two were a crimp type nut and one was a screw on nut. So, you were correct about them using crimped connectors. I thought all wire nuts were screw on, but I learned something. Thank you Mr. George!
Friday-off work.....coffee pot brewing.... cold outside.....comfy chair....Time4Clocks.......someone slap me!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds perfect!😁
I love your beard, Ab! Will you consider growing it back?
Great episode. 🧡🧡🧡 🌺🌺🌺
I'm a slow beard grower, dear Fintan. lol When I retire, I might grow one again. I work in a department now where I inspect dangerous goods shipments and if there is a spill I have may have to wear a respirator during clean up, hence no beard now. I liked having a beard, but when traumatic things happen in my life I like to shave everything off, even my head, to symbolize new beginnings. Hope that makes sense. My beard was very sparse also. If I had a nice one like yours I might like to have one again!
New beginnings … that makes perfect sense to me. Blessings, Ab.
Correct that the disc on top of the motor is the rotor. Usually they are not mounted tightly.
Thank you, Stephen!
Nice job mate
Wich book are you following?
Truthfully, in this older video, I don't even remember anything about a book. 🙀
Iound a source for Telechron rotor repair. Using an ultrasonic cleaner
Larry.
Good Luck! 👍
I have an old sunbeam wall clock that I’d like to get working again, I grabbed the cord while trying to rehang the clock and pulled the coil wires and besides tripping the circuit breaker the coil wires are no longer attached to the AC line, where can I get another coil, for a c006 wall clock, the wires are microscopic and the coil is all dried up being 70 years old, I could always convert itb to battery run buying a cheap quiet movement. But I really like the AC clock , a flag would let me know if there’s a power interruption.
Some coils can be unwrapped to expose a new lead wire, and they are microscopic, but the only other option I know is to locate a similar clock for parts. I hope you will be successful in repairing your clock. I saw one on ebay for $200 in working order. Replacing the works of a clock with a quartz one is always an option but it drives the resale price down to almost nothing. Whatever route you go I wish you the vest!
@@time4clocks i saw the clock, not going to buy another one, i hoping for a parts house like merritts that might have something i could buy i've had this clock since 1977 when a store was going out of business the owner gave it to me. any recommendation on how to carefully pull wire from both ends
@@tonymanzo3766 I'm no expert but my book on Hammond Clocks talks about removing the coil, cutting very finely the wax paper brown housing until the leads are exposed and then solder new connections and rewrap the housing. I've never done this so it only theory and your clocks coil might be totally different. If you have a friend that works on old radios they might be able to help.
I recently bought a late 50s sessions chef kitchen clock , bad motor, and I can't find that style movent motor anywhere.... Looks like the one you are working on in this video
Hi freedom. Sessions made the chef wall clock in 1939 and 1952. If the motor is shot then all you need is to find a Sessions clock from the same period and do a swap. Sometimes the motors are good but just gummed up and won't turn. If cleaning doesn't help then you probably need to find another one. Some of the motors look similar but are different sizes and somtimes you won't know what motor a model has till you open it up. Sometimes a "lot" of used Sessions motors shows up on ebay. Some listings just say "Old electric clock motors" so you really have to pay attention to what they're selling. Hope you will be able to get your clock running.
@@time4clocks well I bought it as is not working I gave it a try just to see and it didn't go well , big spark from the motor.. I looked everywhere found all kinds of motors and movements but absolutely nothing for sessions. And as you said just about the only option is to find a similar sessions parts clock, hope the motor and movement are good and go from there. I just rather not dismantle a working good clock tho, rather it be one with a lot of cosmetic damage. Anyway love your channel , thanks for the advice, I've learned a lot from you, and I greatly appreciate it..
One thing you want to do is oil that fiber gear or it will get chewed up by the motor over time.
You are right! Most people don't know about that! 👍
I have a us clock in the UK I run it off a transformer but it runs slow any surgestion
It is my understanding that power generators in the UK and Europe supply electricity at 50 Hz and in the USA the power grid produces electricity at 60 Hz. Since American clocks are made to operate at 60 Hz, even though you are stepping the voltage down to 110v with your transformer, it is still using your power companies' frequency of 50 Hz and so the clock will run 10 minutes slower every hour. My understanding of the subject is limited but that is my first guess. Second, I would suggest the clock gears be cleaned and new oil applied. Hope that helps.
Do you still have the waterbury Moscow?
I still have it, Jordan. I hesitate to call it the "Moscow" since I had to build a new case for it. :)
@@time4clocks ah yes I remember have you heard of the ingraham sonata
@@jordanbusby6231 Yes, I sent you an email with picture Jordan. Are you buying one?
@@time4clocks i hope to one day