That Time Fire Emblem was an Idol Anime
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- In order to reach the end, we must first return to the beginning. Today I revisit the game that guided me on the path of RUclips...for better or for worse. (Part 1)
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you're objectively wrong because Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE is actually a perfect game because I said so
I'm not biased
He's not wrong
Prove it by doing a playthrough and showing all the best parts.
where can i get that pothead pic
Oh you're talking about Persona Emblem; idols
Oh yeah. this game exists. Hope it gets a port on the Switch.
Without that stupid censors they made and with dub
I mean, if it’s part Persona, people won’t really be surprised if they rate it M
I want the port.
This game is amazing
You called it. Yesterday's direct announced it for January 2020 (they gave a specific date, can't remember what it was).
Well, the person who voices Kiria in this game also voiced Eli Ayase for Love Live School Idol Project :^^
It really is The EMBLEM M@STER tokyo idol project
FIAA EMBUREM TIME
This is less of a Fire Emblem game than Warriors and Shin Megami Tensei game than Persona, but it was at least unique with its presentation and gameplay. It honestly would have done much better as an original IP, and I'd welcome a port on the Switch.
This is the game that deserved to be it's own thing.
But not the game of shin megami tensei fans nor the fire emblem fans.
Literally SUCH a slept on game. I LOVE it so much.
At first I scoffed at the game, but after playing Persona, I might give this game a shot; it seems very much like a SMT/Persona game with FE in it
ShermTank7272 thats pretty much exactly what it is. If you like persona, and at least are able to enjoy/tolerate idol BS then you will probably enjoy it
I returned the game it got really stale
It's not it's nothing like persona
@@Princeomishore
Uuuuuuum? Normal teenagers get sucked into a dark, magic dimension? That's the premise of the last 3 Persona games.
It's literally a Persona parody with FE elements. Very loose FE elements.
May I just kindly remind you that Kyle made you play this game because of the Faia Emburem musical piece
I stopped when you said best girl was Tsubasa, when Eleonora exists
Naziro psst, that voice actress also voiced Minerva and Julia in Japanese FEH. ^^
Same.
This man gets it.
gay
exactly. eleonora's best girl indeed....
Say what you will- I had fun, and the music SLAPS 👋👋👋👋👋
K O W A S H I T A I !
KOWASHITAI-
Ok but why does Chrom look like a death knight from Warcraft in this game?
This was actually held back by the fact that it was a crossover. The last chapter could have been replaced with something more fitting with the idol theme
Imagine thinking itsuki is worse then corrin.... At least he was neutral corrin was an active problem with fates
Also i think they pulled a marth and caeda with itsiki amd tsubasa, marth is boring and bland while caeda steals every scene she's in she's great, its a similar dynamic
I certainly think Itsuki is worse than Corrin.
Not by much, but the difference is there.
@@isaiahtorok7079 At the same time, though, Marth was actively working to liberate Altea. He had a motive and something to drive him. Itsuki? We know nothing about his backstory or his motives (which is also something Persona protagonists hold over him.) He's just................. blank.
@@yunseaweed thats totally fair, its just an interesting parallel
This video was great! Keep it up Max
A really good game that went underappreciated because too many people judged the book by its cover.
Can you blame them it was initially revealed under the guise of shin megami x fire emblem and instead we got FE mirage and felt more like a persona game rather then either game I love persona but I went in expecting a SMT/FE game but we didn’t get that and we got a mildly ok jrpg
Nintendo should be announcing that TMS#FE Switch port right about now! Yupp... any minute now... just a couple more seconds... very shortly I can just feel they’re going to announce it... :(
redkid555 Not happening because this game sucks ass.
@@AnnalinaSR21 *HA*
Captain Mega I always knew one day this comment might one day come back and bite me in the ass. 😭
The EMBLEM M@STER tokyo IDORU PROJECT
saw this on my recommendations, and needless to say, i also obsessed over this and i also liked your lil review. i really enjoyed this game quite a lot. sue me now, but i really enjoyed itsuki. this is coming from a person who plays supports in like any and most rpgs, and i feel like im that friend who is there for everyone with noting really major about them, guess he just really appealed to me. i liked that you enjoyed the game a second time around, seeing as this being labeled a crossover to be turned into this idol jrpg with hints of fire emblem and shin megami influence at a glance. and i couldn't stop laughing with the voice over you did for the characters omg. might get around to seeing your play through despite you saying it is cringy. and something else i wanted to share before i end this long comment, i really loved ellie. her design along with virion, medieval feel, really hit my pleasing eye. i like her a lot because of her side story. as tedious as it is that it was yet enother girl in the cast hitting on itsuki, i loved the option in her final side story where itsuki mentions he will miss seeing ellie around, this along with feeling like she has to earn her spot in the industry because people focus on her ethnicity and everything, made me feel for her. how she felt that by leaving to hollywood, she didn't leave a lasting impression on the fortuna members, and i would say even her jobs while in tokyo, which is ironic to say as you didn't quite deemed her memorable. yeah the whole "THIS IS HOLLYWOOD" slipping her mouth every other sentence can seem annoying, i didn't mind it though. and i guess her tomboyish feel also made me love her more because she didn't want to be all regal, and yeah. that was my thesis on ellie lol. anyways. can't wait to see what you have to say about the ost. which disclaimer, i fucking love. all songs are best songs. this weeb anime idol "crossover" is up my gay ass lane.
At first I was *REALLY* upset this wasnt the crossover game they teased. But after getting heroes, im more content in trying it out! Also, pegasus knights on flying motorcycles is my favorite translation in this game
A crossover would be set in the Persona world, but it uses Fire Emblem turn based strategy gameplay, so it plays like a Fire Emblem, but the "my base" mechanics plays like Persona 5 for leveling your characters, getting ready for the next mission, and all of that. I think that is how you do a proper crossover of the two series.
The second game was supposed to be Persona right?
that would just be devil survivor 3
It's finally here
I think Atlus were going through a phase. They got over it pretty quick and gave us Persona 5, easily one of the best games of the last decade.
I mean you say that, but P5 and TMS probably shared a development cycle and probably inspired each other in some ways.
Reincarnation = Best Eli solo
I should go and finish Tokyo Mirage Sessions...
Playing through the game right now actually, it's a lot of fun to play and the art style being unique and pretty to look at also helps.
11:40 he really channelled his inner Mumkey Jones
I'd really like a sequel that has the same gameplay but ditches the idol stuff.
Fun fact,the director of TMS was also the director of SMT Devil Survivor and like TMS it also had an idol subplot.He also had the same reasoning for including them in both games,because songs can be sort of similar to demon summoning.
Dant Pointy I doubt they’d ditch that tbh.
There’s a mobile game Square Enix has that’s VERY similar to TMS called Project Tokyo Dolls that executes the battle idol concept a bit better (also Ellie shares a VA with one of the characters in that game).
You know. I rank crossovers as crossovers based on which fandoms are pleased or not by it.
(note : here, the examples of ranking will be based around a two series crossover)
A good crossover will please the fans of both franchises.
A great crossover will do the above and bring new fans to both franchises.
A bad crossover will only please the fans of one franchise.
A terrible crossover will please neither side.
TMS feels like it will fare better as a new IP. It FELT like one. Can't shrug off the feeling that the madmen of ATLUS simply thought "Hey, idols are popular. Let's make a Persona game about it without our usual Persona monsters!". 2014 - 2016 is the era where fictional idol is super intense. Wait, in a way the based-on-FE-characters-mirages seem to be the symbolization of idols. They are who we seem to admire, but up close... no... No way...
Also I think their efforts to make Itsuki the fusion of silent Persona protagonists and Fire Emblem lords that is full of personality and can make their decisions on their own makes him more like... idol game protagonists. Supportive, the backdoor man, the one that keeps the crew together. In the end, it's more like they take inspiration from Idolm@ster Producer characters. Fitting considering Itsuki becomes the manager or some sort, equivalent to Idolm@ster producers.
Still, 1-shot compact idol stuff like TMS is very refreshing. Most idol franchises especially at the time is more concerned about the longevity and the potential of milking them in the long term than, well, making 1 compact product.
Just a side note, are you sure you're not delving into the wrong idol franchise for this video? For video games Idolm@ster is the far more culturally relevant one. Idolm@ster is the one that proved fictional idols being treated like real idols can print money, for pete's sake. *coughcoughLoveLivevideogamesarenotgoodcoughcough*
The vocal songs for this game are actually composed by idol song regulars, in particular, KOH. Within Idolm@ster Million Live community he is referred as GOD. Equivalent to Tales of's Go Shiina.
There will be no Love Live slander in this comment section. 🔫
Oh this game! I remember this. Didnt know that spirit was from here.
Part 2 ! let got!
"oooH Fireee Embleeeem" the only lyrics we will ever learn of the whole song x'D
if a fire emblem fan wants to get into atlas games you play devil survivor 1 it will be familiar and fresh(and its one of my fav atlas games) good vid btw
Or the newly translation patched Majin Tensei.
@@ShadowWolfRising is that also tactics game?
@@caellanmurphy4751 Yes, go youtube some gameplay.
ironically... the guy that directed devil survivor made this game too...
it's Atlus not Atlas, unless I'm missing some meme or something 'cause I just keep seeing people writing it like that
smt and fe are both.... not of that nature?
they are both kind of intense and not really... idol anime?
so which atlus/Nintendo crackhead did this?
The guy that made SMT Devil Survivor and Devil Survivor 2 is responsible for this. And you can really tell he is if You played Devil Survivor 2.
He also had made Idol Video Games for Atlus and its really apparent that's his True passion. He was definitely the wrong guy to put in charge of this project, and it was really his first time handling a console release if I remember right. He was basically given Free Reign to do whatever he wanted.
I'm split on the game, I own the collectors edition, I've never beaten it, never watched anyone beat it. The gameplay is great, and certain sections of the story are great, the music is great. But like the video said it ultimately just fails as a crossover and that's just the thing you can't look past. When they first announced this crossover I imagined it would have a bit of a darker story. ultimately though... this has me a bit worried for the future because it seems like this anime like nature is what Nintendo itself wants for Fire emblem considering what fates was like and now that the main plot of Fire Emblem the Three houses has you as a School teacher.
@@chaosdirge4906 they probably put him in charge because FE and Devil Survivor are both strategy games so they thought he would've had the best skillset for this project but then he botched it lol
@@chaosdirge4906 you are mistaking mitsuru hirata (DeSu 1, 2, og strange journey, digital devil saga & radiant historia) with tadami satoshi (persona 1/2 IS/2EP, DDS) who actually self inserted himself along with his oshimen and made the group "muses" based on a real group.
no one in atlus makes "idol games", if you're refering to the dancing games (which are only rhythm games) those are made by a totally different studio, the actual persona studio.
@@heribertoesquivel7500 I read about it in an interview somewhere that what I said was the case. Far be it from me to do some actual research about this topic. but It is great the people like you do come along to clarify the issue.
"I've also become more familiar with the... subject matter... for a lack for a better term"
You lewd man you
Nothing lewd about it my guy.
Those who would lewd the school idols have a reserved seat in the special hell
@@MaxHP1 Fair, fair.
I played this game and honestly - I loved it
Good review
I personally Love this game to peices, it's one of my favorite games of all time. I understand your reasoning on how it's flawed or how you may dislike it, but i still love it nonetheless and respect your opinion. I'm looking forward to the next video
This game was significantly harder than current SMT/Persona so just for that it was worth it
I still need to beat this game! I've gotten so far but attempting to complete all the small side quests have really slowed me down. I wish the main story was more compelling because there's so much this game does brilliantly. I never thought performers could make a compelling turn-based combat system but...damn, it just works in this game
Interesting video....... I never thought a person could be still talking about this game in the actual year, and that's cool! ☺️ I think this is a very underrated game with good mechanics, cool music and a decent selection of spells and skills. It's true when you say that the connection between mirages and their own stories are very poor in this title but nvm... still I think it has a lot of good things and I really enjoyed playing it. 💛🎶
So, today I learned that this game is basically Persona x Fire Emblem.
Sign me up
Let's say, in a hypothetical reality where I ,today, was told to make a crossover between SMT and FE, first I would change SMT to persona. I know Persona and SMT are like 1 in the same but Persona is more popular and has pretty much become it's own thing at this point. I woild start with how to divide the gameplay, for 1 I would have it be persona social links and real world shit, and the shadow fighting side would be FE gameplay. That way Fire Emblem and Persona would get about equal representation. In the real world you'd build social links, or as I would call them, support links. Characters would mostly interact and talk about stuff like their ideals and world views like in FE, but have them also do stuff along side it. The more supports you do the more powerful the different fe characters would be. On the FE side of things the gameplay would be tactical, but not grid ore turned based. It would be a party of FE users going through different maps to complete an objective with battles working like persona. That's just my idea, I had another one where it was persona gameplay with FE characters as the protagonists but it w as to big and I didn't want to type for 6 hours straight.
3:30
Anyone know the music here?
The only reason I still don't have this game is because I don't have a Wii U. I also remember that some people boycotted the game because it was awkwardly censored.
It's amazing how none of the characters have a compelling personality AND the turn based combat turns into using one move while you watch a 20 second long animation
That's a...vast oversimplification.
Wait, -Draug- Doga is in this game?!? It’s a must buy now.
now... a video about Love Live
I would like a video compilation of all the times you lose it
Wow with that description of Itsuki sounds like he represents how the hardcore FE fan, SMT fan, or both feel while playing the game.
I’ve been thinking of getting this game. Should I?
I really want to see another #FE game, that learns some lessons from the first game. But, it flopped so hard that I really doubt it'll happen.
If you ignore the fact this is supposed to be a crossover and you aren't bothered by the idol stuff, it's actually a very enjoyable game. The combat is fun (similar to Persona 5) and the story is just dumb fun. Of course, the game failed because of everything revolving around its marketing.
Barry is objectively the best character
Cuz he actually acts like a stereotypical Idol fan
Soleil the Dandy Swordswoman nice pfp
i remember seeing gameplay for this and being this is not fire emblem and then never got it but after this video i kinda want to try to play it cus it might be funny
Are all the songs from the OST?
Yes
You bring up a lot of good points, especially about how it's not a good FE crossover. I got swept into the hype and bought the game and special edition, even, but haven't played it at all. Part of me doesn't like the dumb censor changes made, and another part of me likes the idea and style of this game so much that I don't want to play it and end up underwhelmed.
You're tipping me over the edge, though, and now might be a good time to pick it up and give it a try.
How does this video have a live chat?
I like Kyle's Donnel cosplay
Still waiting for TMS character in heroes.
if it wasn't teased like a fire emblem crossover with smt then it wouldn't have gotten much hate and might've sold more.
also touma best boi and eleonora best girl...
The thing is, it's actually not a bad game. The base game play is actually a pretty ingenious way of incorporating FE's weapon triangle into larger Megaten combat system and story is kinda quirky and charming in an "it's anime, just go with it" sort of way. It's just very obvious they set to do a crossover with any kind of idea how it would even work and almost had to mash something together out of desperation.
I want them to remake this game but take your notes.
The best thing about the game were the perfomances. I just love the Opera of Light to death. Also Reincarnation rocks.
TMS 2 should crossover with Love Live.
Give me SMT-fied Maki as a pegasus knight.
Still waiting for that Love Live/Heroes crossover
MaxHP I mean Persona had their collab with BanDori so why not
I was super hyped when they teased a shin megami tensei fire emblem crossover and super confused when they showed this game. I LOVE Shin Megami Tensei and had recently been getting into Fire emblem so it would have been perfect for me, but then the idol anime stuff showed up and I realized it had nothing to do with either one.
His talent is directing and managing other talent- which is, admittedly, a stretch. We know that directing is a difficult job that requires skill, but with *Him*, he just kinda just.... repeats the same “Your doing this for good reasons! You’re amazing!” lines. Literally just trade him out for someone with a slight desire to improve.
Edit: Spelling
BIG INFORMATION DUMP COMING THROUGH!
One thing I noticed was the detail of your surroundings. The posters and billboards around Tokyo change as you get more things done, and the vending machine in Fortuna even changes when you complete a particular side story.
Fun fact: Maiko was supposed to be playable in early development. Her mirage would have been Olivia!
Also cameos in the shops. Ilyana is the cafe maid, Aimee runs Carabia Jewelry, and Cath runs Anzu Costume Shop. I think Crepe Dia has one too but it’s hard to see exactly who.
Oh and it was originally going to be FE x Pokémon but was scrapped because Pokémon Conquest made the decision redundant.
On top of that, Mamori is actually a reference to Haruka Fukuhara who hosted a similar kids cooking show irl. Haruka ironically also done a 10 second RUclips CM for FEH ironically so it might be safe to suspect she has a fan or two among IntSys. This CM has since been privated by Nintendo JPN, but came around around the time the CYL2 units were announced.
Also Yashiro has the JPN seiyuu of Shigure and Robin (there’s some inspiration for you thirsters), while Ellie shares hers with Julia and Minerva via Heroes.
... I am in too deep
Lol sorry Max. The idol trash struck again.
TMS IS MY FUCKIN JAM
I bought this game like a year ago,played a few chapters,then it stopped working
It crashed a few times during my playthrough. Its not the most optimized game out there
I want it to be Ported to switch so I can try it
Finally some good fucking food
*GAME!
all FE lords are 1 note, dunno how this is even a surprise.
This ain't it chief
@@Ethan-nl2wg and you can keep in lala land pretending that Marth and the rest of the scrub lords have any depth
@@HTakara82 What about Hector though
@@JustAnotherUser578 I'm a big tough man, I can't cry, hur hur hur, look how manly I am, hur hur hur.
I mean, when you say it that way, every character can be bastardized easily.
I actually want to play this game like my fellow ally pinkie over there
Tbh I find Barry pretty hot.
SWITCH PORT CONFIRMED!
KOWASHITAI
Need a switch port.
I honestly think this game would've been a lot better if it wasn't a crossover.
Think about it for a second, an Idols theme can work perfectly with SMT in general.
FE doesn't work with Idols. It doesn't work with anything in this game. Take out the Fire Emblem part and it would work. It works as an SMT game but not as a crossover.
There is a reason TMS #FE is the called the Fire Emblem game no one talks about.
Edit: I just realized TMS is SMT backwards..
Tsubasa is the main character in the game. Itsuki is the self-insert.
Man I forgot to finish this game need to take the Wii U out of the box and play this game again
Well I must have lived in a box to not recognize Beyond Fates was you! Gave some concubine context that IS didn't really bother to give us more of for their favorite alt machine haha
6:05 To me, have my expectations grounded with that game in mind means grounded to a cave.
Seriously, for all the flak that recent FE stories get, they still look like masterpieces compared to this.
Still want a sequel. Almost Any series can be fixed with enough effort.
Cybernetic_fighter_Z_The_Hell_Kaiser_Of_Long_Names Yes but not trash which game is 🗑
Obviously, best girl is Touma.
I haven't played TMS, but red hair anime boys are very good
I don't have many issues with this game, if you like it thats fine. But gods, Chrom my boy. What did they do to you???
Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE got better in game combat than Personna 5 There I said it ... It just MUCH better more interactive and more tactical.
No Max, you're wrong something something TMS is amazing or whatever Kyle told us to say
5:22 If you think of it more in line to a mediocre PreCure season, that is. One in which the Phlebotinum isn't particularly well explained or oddly specific (like Kirakira in which the whole show revolves around some weird energy that comes from baked sweets or something like that).
TMS Switch dub when the hell are you?
Yeah, this game got mad hate and was slept on because it wasn't how folks envisioned it(well that and censorship) but I really didn't care. I had fun, that's what matters when playing games. Tokyo Mirage Sessions was like having a bit of Japanese culture in my American console. Since the Switch seems to thrive on RPG games, then a port or sequel of TMS would work well on it.
Bad video -1/10
Why? Because you said tsubasa is best girl when its obviously Yashiro
I would have given this game a chance...if it would´ve been on a decent consol.
Hope it gets an switch port and an enhanced version like P3P/P4G
13:10 *chokes*
5/10 no footage of you dancing and you didn't use naz's recorder cover
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